Let’s dive right into this story.
Here is the list of donors to the NRSC. I encourage you to go through the list. If you see people you know, tell them how the NRSC wants their money, then wants them to shut up.
The NRSC’s endorsement of Charlie Crist is a repudiation of the base of the GOP. It is a tacit admission that the Republican Senate caucus intends to write off the majority of the Republican base in favor of a new base.
In other words: send the NRSC your money, then shut the hell up.
That is precisely why we must not send one dime to the NRSC, let alone a penny.
The NRSC and Senate Republican leadership are huddled in Washington right now privately patting each other on the back for the Crist endorsement and reassuring each other that this is just an angry backlash from unrealistic conservatives who don’t understand the dynamics of 2010 — they are the experts and we’re the noise
If they weren’t so busy in their circle of self-congratulatory pleasure at what they’ve accomplished, they’d see this is far from the truth.
Here at RedState, we understand totally and completely that there are some areas of the country a strong social conservative cannot win. And there are some areas of the country that hard core fiscal libertarian candidates cannot win.
We recognize that we must find candidates that fit their region. For example, the best the GOP can probably do in Delaware is Mike Castle. The best the GOP can do in Illinois is Mark Kirk. We encourage the NRSC and GOP to move forward there.
But, in Florida and elsewhere, the GOP has no business entering a primary when there are multiple very viable candidates involved and either candidate could win.
That the NRSC thinks Marco Rubio cannot win in Florida is a rejection of conservatism across the board as a winning set of ideas. In fact, in Florida conservatives have traditionally faired well. Ignoring the connection to his brother, Jeb Bush was far to the right of Charlie Crist and won handily in Florida. And not just Jeb.
Rubio can win and is more aligned with the majority of the Republican base in Florida than Crist, who will rely on cross over voting from Democrats and independents in the same way John McCain did to win Florida’s Presidential Primary.
But the NRSC has ignored all of that. The NRSC has decided to play favorites. And their favorites are increasingly at odds with the base of the GOP. If the NRSC wants to distance itself from the base, the base should distance itself from an NRSC that is showing increasingly bad judgment.
They can take cold comfort in thinking we’re just upset because they endorsed a liberal. The reality is we expect them to in some cases. But this case they did not have to, should not have done so, and must be made to pay a price.
Here is the list of donors to the NRSC. I encourage you to go through the list. If you see people you know, tell them how the NRSC wants their money, then wants them to shut up.
KnightsofMalta
Dan Spencer
Moe Lane
Steve Maley
Dan McLaughlin
Caleb Howe
What orgs are alternatives
zachv (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 3:35PM EST (link)… to the NRSC?
I think specific Candidates would be better
scarlos (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:07PM EST (link)Just because you can look up exactly who is getting your money before you send it out.
Otherwise just look up some Conservative group that endorses and donates to candidates. Be wary of anything with “Republican” in it’s name though.
Socialism is Oligarchy in disguise
morons
jeffreywturner (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 3:37PM EST (link)Is this the same NRSC that is part of the national establishment GOP that wants to “reach out” to the “hispanic community”? It seems to me there is no better way to do this than to attempt to marginalize and railroad the only major hispanic GOP candidate in the race to replace the only hispanic Republican in the Senate. Real smart. I can’t stand the country club Republicans who act like we are too stupid to actually choose a candidate and need to have one chosen for us. Election 2008 should tell us this if it tells us anything; SELECTING A CANDIDATE BECAUSE HE IS MORE “ELECTABLE” IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Their Purpose Is To Elect Republicans
DavidSage (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 3:45PM EST (link)I’m no fan of the NRSC, but their purpose isn’t to enforce ideological purity, its to try and get Republicans elected.
I’m not really outraged that this organization is pushing for the most electable Republican candidate to get the nomination. Florida is not a “deep red” state, it’s a purple state that went for Obama.
Crist is a very popular Republican Governor that would make this Senate seat a shoo-in for Republicans. I would like it if he were more to the Right, but on major issues, like Card Check, Universal Health care, tax increases, etc, I see him as a useful Republican to have, and an improvement to the current Senator.
Right now, we can’t even mount a filibuster in the Senate. I think we need to take all the easy wins we can, and use our resources to fight the tough races. Nominating someone else besides Crist means there’s going to be one more tough, expensive race in Florida that Republicans have to win.
David read what you wrote:
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 3:52PM EST (link)“but on major issues, like Card Check, Universal Health care, tax increases, etc, I see him as a useful Republican to have, and an improvement to the current Senator.”
He stood on a stage with Obama to SELL the porkulous bill to the purple people of Florida. How useful is that?
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Definitely A Bad Decision
DavidSage (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:02PM EST (link)I know a lot of Republican Governors wanted stimulus money for their state, but I agree it’s a huge black mark against him.
I’m no fan of Crist, but right now I don’t think our biggest problem is that we have too many moderate Republicans that we need to get rid of. I’m all for a good purge when we have more comfortable margins.
This country really is at at a permanent turning point in the fact that the Democrats have unbridled power to enact their agenda. You can’t take back things like Universal Health care. Once it’s given, it’s a permanent benefit we’re going to be saddled with.
If Republicans can slow that socialist agenda down by increasing their numbers (like with the filibuster) I think that’s a victory for our side, and I’ll put up with a few squishy moderates.
Nope. I disagree. You can take back things like Universal Health Care.
Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:06PM EST (link)That was the same thing that was said about Welfare Reform.
Nothing is impossible. All it takes is smarts and guts and it can be done.
What Country Has Taken Away Universal Health Care?
DavidSage (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:11PM EST (link)And welfare reform took 30 years to reform, but it never has been repealed.
Right now, my number one goal is limiting the permanent damage that Obama and the Democrats will inflict on this country for generations to come.
what makes you think Crist wouldn't cut a deal for UHC ?
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:21PM EST (link)A snake is a snake, if there is anything the Rinos have taught us is that you can’t count on them for anything but looking out for their own interest.
That is the biggest fault in not electing real conservatives.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
quite the contrary David
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:10PM EST (link)now is the time not to add anymore liberal republicans (notice I did not say moderate, Crist is a liberal not a moderate).
Since we have no delicate balance, indeed no power left at all (gee, I wonder how much that is due to republicans moderating their message?) So we have nothing to lose now by enforcing at least a little bit of conservatism and party loyalty.
If we continue being just the Democrat Lite party we might win a few presidential elections but it wont much matter because we will see no conservatism enacted.
And under those circumstances I see no reason not to just let the democrats continue to ruin the country and take all the blame.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
So You Oppose the Candidacies of Simmons, Kirk, Castle
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:35PM EST (link)You see no value in electing a Republican to Obama’s seat and a Republican to Biden’s seat and a Republican to Dodd’s seat even though they would vote with half the time instead of none of the time and would be a devastating psychological blow to the Democratic establishment and the MSM.
I choose to fight. I know how hard it is. I am not naïve. And DavidSage is right about not being unable to turn these things around, Medicare and Social Security and the millions of Democratic votes they bring are proof of that.
And no we didn’t lose because of elections. Liberals gained diddley-squat through elections and still marched on for fifty years. When conservative activists figure this out maybe we too can begin a real roll back.
I don't know enough about them but...
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 5:15PM EST (link)I would not actively oppose a few liberals in a few very blue states. The problem is that if we get too many, and if they are joined by liberals in red or purple states. then THEY end up being the power brokers.
And conservatives are out in the cold once again. So to answer your question , yes I most likely would oppose them if they are more left than right.
I know it’s damn hard for some people to get this through their head. But you ARE NO BETTER OFF, and POSSIBLY WORSE OFF by giving seats to liberal Republicans.
If you want to see how much damage a Liberal Republican can do look at Swarzenegger.
If our party cannot offer real right of center solutions to our problems then it really doesn’t matter if the economy tanks or how bad the Dems screw up. People might elect a Republican president next time but he won’t be able to do anything because democrats and liberal republicans will still control congress.
I don’t know about you but I am sick of this dance. This is what gave us the last eight years.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Governator started out okay....
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 6:19PM EST (link)but I think he caved to the daily whine of his Ultra-Liberal spouse! It is NOT as if he needs the Salary… he could have and should have let the Liberals go on and on and take the Veto to the ultimate and SHUT DOWN THE CA GOVERNMENT ENTIRELY until the Legislators relented to reasonable Budgets with Cuts and No Increased Taxes -or- the people recalled him. Without the Ultra-Liberal he married in the house with him, I think he would have stood his ground more. She convinced him it would be okay to be a Country-cluber and go along to get along rather than be a Real Leader he wanted (and we expected him) to be!!!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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Governator started out okay....
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 6:19PM EST (link)but I think he caved to the daily whine of his Ultra-Liberal spouse! It is NOT as if he needs the Salary… he could have and should have let the Liberals go on and on and take the Veto to the ultimate and SHUT DOWN THE CA GOVERNMENT ENTIRELY until the Legislators relented to reasonable Budgets with Cuts and No Increased Taxes -or- the people recalled him. Without the Ultra-Liberal he married in the house with him, I think he would have stood his ground more. She convinced him it would be okay to be a Country-cluber and go along to get along rather than be a Real Leader he wanted (and we expected him) to be!!!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Daily whine with no alternatives
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:51PM EST (link)I myself (back in February) did a Diary on not giving our Party Leadership money (RNC called) but I meant any/all of them…. I have said over and over and over in threads here that I would be putting my money/energy toward direct contributions to Conservative Candidates and/or Conservative 527′s that will put forth the right message (like we had to do when McLame would not go at Obama as we wanted – my favorite: LetFreedomRing, the NeverFindOut project and a few others that put forth TV ads McLame wouldn’t)….
Instead of whining, a viable alternative with something more than the “but this goes to 11…..” repeat (Crist/Rubio 12 points [with links], Crist and taxes [includes press-links], or sit-it-out hands Democrats the seat in depth Sit-It-Out discussion / ZERO-strategy, and/or can one catch RINOvirus) has to be put forth….. If all things remain equal between now and the 2010 Election, several fellow RedStaters are moving me away from my hardline position and I may just change my mind and donate to the NRSC and RNC (as well as maybe even Crist) directly!
None of this changes my support for Toomey – the FL situation is different (I VIEW EACH RACE ON ITS OWN MERITS)… had there been a Conservative Candidate with CLOUT hanging around the last years (like Toomey for having taken on disreSpecter already) there would be someone viable to back!!!!! I also still intend to help SIMCOX AGAINST MCCAIN, or anyone that challenges McCain, in that Primary (why have we put up with him from that RED State?).
FIND US ALL A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE AND THIS IS MOOT!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
here is your alternative
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 5:23PM EST (link)Support the conservative (or at least fiscal conservative) candidate in each race and if they lose the primary, you do not support a liberal.
You talk about people with clout and gravitas, but that comes with being in the trenches. You might have a very good conservative candidate who narrowly loses to a liberal republican and then what are his prospects for the future? the powers in the party will never not support the incumbent against challengers.
It would be better in the long run if that guy were waiting in the wings, taking shots at a democrat in office. other wise you just continue to get liberalism, party affiliation notwithstanding.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
I think we sometimes view the Primaries incorrectly....
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 5:43PM EST (link)Toomey is a good example, for one, which demonstrates (to your point) that a loss can/does set up a run for the future…. A loss is not the end, necessarily!
As for my Comment title here….. Primaries…. We grasp what I mean in Presidential campaigns as those that may run may NOT have a chance of winning that particular campaign but it allows them to shape the debate and earn that CLOUT (as I put it before – but it means name-recognition, an expanded campaign worker base, lists, money, etc….) ….. If we had people coming into Primaries and more Candidates honored Reagan’s 11th and held “respectful” over cut-throat campaigns we can/will – One, shape the debates and try and bring those candidates that are NOT our first choices (hopefully) around at least some and Two, to setup them for future runs (like Toomey) being in a better position to win.
The only issue with the Primary runs for National spots as a “publicity tour” (more or less) can conceivably weaken them for the jobs (reelection of their current job) if another opponent can stick them with being disinterested in that job and only looking to “climb the ladder” as a career politician….
I think you can and will understand my point/concept… but it won’t surprise me that you may disagree
lol 
How it relates here, of course, is that we could have and should have somehow had some Conservative FL candidates working up their State-wide popularity potentially through that strategy. While “All Politics Are Local” it has become true too that “All Federal Level Posts campaigns have become National” and having people that can/will pull in support, financial and otherwise, to win these races as they come up IMO is important (Toomey, again as an example – we need to get him over disreSpecter or any Democrat that may Primary him out).
We’d all (well, all us Conservatives here at RedState) prefer only Conservatives be in the running, we just have trouble with discussion where our FIRST CHOICES just aren’t going to happen!!!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Governor races are another good exposure opportunity
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 6:06PM EST (link)blasted double posts…. I am pressing the Post Comment as “gently” as I can yet these are a big problem today with 500 errors…. something is hanging/dragging somewhere causing these way above normal. anyway, otherwise this would have been (NT) post
lol 
Maybe it’s sun-spots, ’cause my Dish is flaky today too.
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
I think we sometimes view the Primaries incorrectly....
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 5:43PM EST (link)Toomey is a good example, for one, which demonstrates (to your point) that a loss can/does set up a run for the future…. A loss is not the end, necessarily!
As for my Comment title here….. Primaries…. We grasp what I mean in Presidential campaigns as those that may run may NOT have a chance of winning that particular campaign but it allows them to shape the debate and earn that CLOUT (as I put it before – but it means name-recognition, an expanded campaign worker base, lists, money, etc….) ….. If we had people coming into Primaries and more Candidates honored Reagan’s 11th and held “respectful” over cut-throat campaigns we can/will – One, shape the debates and try and bring those candidates that are NOT our first choices (hopefully) around at least some and Two, to setup them for future runs (like Toomey) being in a better position to win.
The only issue with the Primary runs for National spots as a “publicity tour” (more or less) can conceivably weaken them for the jobs (reelection of their current job) if another opponent can stick them with being disinterested in that job and only looking to “climb the ladder” as a career politician….
I think you can and will understand my point/concept… but it won’t surprise me that you may disagree
lol 
How it relates here, of course, is that we could have and should have somehow had some Conservative FL candidates working up their State-wide popularity potentially through that strategy. While “All Politics Are Local” it has become true too that “All Federal Level Posts campaigns have become National” and having people that can/will pull in support, financial and otherwise, to win these races as they come up IMO is important (Toomey, again as an example – we need to get him over disreSpecter or any Democrat that may Primary him out).
We’d all (well, all us Conservatives here at RedState) prefer only Conservatives be in the running, we just have trouble with discussion where our FIRST CHOICES just aren’t going to happen!!!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
In other words, getting people into friendly Primaries
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 5:56PM EST (link)Let me keep this generic… Pick your most FAVORITE Senator anywhere…. Some should run against that Senator ANYWAY in the Primary….. The purpose isn’t to DEFEAT that Senator but to:
1. Have more than ONE person out on the campaign trial getting out the Conservative message to the masses
2. Gives the other Primary Candidates that chance to build up future run support rather than leaving it for the NRSC to step in with whomever is “popular” enough to win. People will have been working their name-recognition and message and be ready to step up (again, Toomey is perfect example – though his wasn’t a “Friendly” campaign like I am making an example of here)
3. The
Partiesmultiple Conservative Candidates come together at the end of the Primary to strengthen the Republican Candidate for the General (if we always, get ready in line – as I’m putting forth – we will always have a good viable Conservative candidate and not have to worry about what we see happening in FL – IMO).We, as Conservatives, aren’t doing enough in any sense to prepare the way and have then ready/viable when the opportunities arise. We can and should do better. Instead, it is like we waited and now bite at each other over what to do now because WE FAILED to lay the ground-work in the past let alone be able to look forward beyond the next Election.
As always, I view these discussions as STRATEGY… Now and going forward.
Take care friends and regards from NoMoTown (Democrats, looking to do for America what they’ve done to Detroit/Michigan)
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
ok we finally agree on something
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 6:02PM EST (link)I do think we should encourage (instead of discourage) good people to challenge Republicans in primaries. For one thing, if politicians, even good ones, just keep getting rubber stamped by their own party without having to answer questions from challengers then they become like so many of our old warhorses (especially in the Senate). They forget about the constituents and start to think like the beltway.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
For those that may misread that to think I mean Erick
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 5:24PM EST (link)I have said all along that I “understand” the NRSC’s position ON THIS ONE RACE in that they’d like to have at least one sure-fire Win to be able to focus on other harder races then (that is the way I see the way they see it)….
But I also firmly agree with Erick (point of RNC called Diary) that we should withhold further donations (it only works for those of us who have indeed given in the past) as a revolt and voting with our pocket-books and putting our funds directly to CONSERVATIVE endeavors in the hopes they’ll get the hint. We must let them know we want changes, but ranting-and-raving at them IMO is not going to be effective.
I further believe I understand, and agree with, Erick’s decision that PRESSURE must be maintained on them about how we the grass-roots demand changes of them if they expect our support. Loyalty is a 2-way street. However, it is again IMO ineffective to just focus on the Crist thing as the sole (it can certainly be part of it) manner in which to try and bring the point across.
As always, it is a question of objective analysis and of effective versus ineffective strategies…. We will NOT ALL agree!!!!
Keep up the pressure Erick, but I think you can bring the pressure w/o only having to Harp on the Crist thing. We can and should demand the NRSC support for Toomey, if they (NRSC) is NOT going to stay out of Primaries (which would be all of our first choice) then they need to step up and help Toomey so he has all that much more momentum going into the General Election… If they expect to get OUR COOPERATION then they need to show they will cooperate with those of us that FUND THEIR CAMPAIGNS and provide other Campaign assistance…. Again, that loyalty is a 2-way street and we the grass-roots want to see some in our direction too!!!!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
So the NRSC should just let the Democrats have the seat
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:09PM EST (link)That is what they think we are asking of them….. They see as the viable candidate that will take the State and BEFORE anyone else stepped up they put forth whom they thought would be a shoe-in as David pointed out. It is up to others to come up with a more Conservative candidate with the CLOUT to be able to take him on in the Primary and convince FL voters they MUST elect him.
Again, it is (no doubt) the way the NRSC sees it, based on the way they analyze things going forward, and there will be countless people who disagree (but it all boils down to OPINIONS) with the NRSC thoughts/bet for the FL race.
Don’t shoot the Messengers of those who “understand” where they are coming from…. Call Rubio and pledge him money and support. Call the NRSC and tell them you think they SEE IT WRONG!
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
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So the NRSC should just let the Democrats have the seat
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:09PM EST (link)That is what they think we are asking of them….. They see as the viable candidate that will take the State and BEFORE anyone else stepped up they put forth whom they thought would be a shoe-in as David pointed out. It is up to others to come up with a more Conservative candidate with the CLOUT to be able to take him on in the Primary and convince FL voters they MUST elect him.
Again, it is (no doubt) the way the NRSC sees it, based on the way they analyze things going forward, and there will be countless people who disagree (but it all boils down to OPINIONS) with the NRSC thoughts/bet for the FL race.
Don’t shoot the Messengers of those who “understand” where they are coming from…. Call Rubio and pledge him money and support. Call the NRSC and tell them you think they SEE IT WRONG!
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“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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The man is going to Washington to be Obama's Republican vote in the Senate. [nt]
Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:02PM EST (link)exactly
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:17PM EST (link)its right out of the democrat playbook.
(1) find some liberals or useful idiots with an R by their name
(2) get your quislings in the various Republican groups to support him
(3) Get him elected if he is stronger than your candidate.
(4) co opt him, make the Republicans have to offer him all kinds of benefits to occasionally vote with them.
(5) give him lots of favorable press and even bribe him with quid pro quos so that he will jamm his own party
(6) Present liberal garbage bills as bipartisan.
And it’s so damn easy for them because we keep falling for it.
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I echo DavidSage's sentiments.
smagar (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 11:28PM EST (link)I’m not ready to impale John Cornyn for stepping forward to support Crist. Given his view of things, I can see where he’d think it was the smart thing to do.
You can’t go on offense if you’re playing defense. The Dems will outspend us in 2010. Cornyn can’t afford to lose any more GOP seats. (He probably will, anyway, based on what I’m hearing).
If we still had 55 Senators, maybe Cornyn could have risked letting Rubio and Crist duke it out. Unfortunately, though, the TX Senator has precisely zero margin of error.
Let’s also not forget that lost Senate seats are lost for six years.
Cornyn’s job is not to worry about Florida. It’s to worry about the Senate.
Why can’t Rubio run for governor?
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Former Crist voter...
JChesney (Diary) Wednesday, May 20th at 12:32AM EST (link)I voted for Crist when he ran for governor because I believed that he would follow the same track as Jeb Bush. Sadly, this RINO sealed his fate when he not only greedily accepted the Swindelus Package, but then went on the road with Obama as a RINO lap dog.
I have listened to Rubio and he is EXACTLY what the Republican party needs! He is young, articulate and will attract the much needed Hispanic vote. Please listen to this man and you will see that he can beat Crist.
I will ONLY vote for the RINO if he can beat Rubio, and then only by holding my nose. And let me tell you, many well informed voters I know feel exactly the same way. Crist sold us out!
Your Mistake. Crist is a popular Liberal Governor ...Who Calls Himself A Republican
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ColdWarrior (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:28PM EST (link)scrawled in red on the signature page of Cornyn’s latest fundraising plea that enclosed the “Republican Strategy Survey” “to help our Republican Senators in Congress identify the priorities and concerns of our Party’s core supporters duirng this uncertain time for our country — and to ensure we have the moral backing we need to halt momentum for the Democrats’ deeply flawed policies.” Uh, excuse me, but that’s why we bothered to write the 2008 Republican Party Platform. Doh!
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Does anyone know of any Rubio vs. Christ Poll numbers?
scarlos (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:30PM EST (link)Just wondering, as it would be a great repudiation of the NRSC if Rubio was in the lead despite their interference.
Anyway, I think Rubio actually has a better chance of holding the Seat than Christ does. As is mentioned above, Christ is relying on “Independents” and “Moderates” the same way McCain did. That’s generally a losing strategy, especially if your base is unhappy with the candidate. It doesn’t matter how high your approval rating is among the opposing base–they’re not going to vote for you.
Rubio is (from what I’ve seen) young, charismatic, conservative, and overall a good candidate. Christ has very little to his name that suggests he is a Conservative (his property tax reform measure was Rubio’s idea) and plenty of reasons to vote against him.
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Good Point: Its About Resources
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:44PM EST (link)I listen to a lot of sports radio. Everyone loves playing fantasy and playing armchair general manager. And every sigining is the biggest and most important signing – until the next signing. No one really understands the business ledger or the salary cap.
Political blogging is kind of the same. People have strong opinions about the ‘players’ but dont bother to honestly assess the resources. NRSC will have full fledged wars in OH, MO and NH to name a few. The ywould like to take the fight to the Dems in CT, DE, AK, and NV. I think they would just like to wrap up some early locks and save resources, not just financial, but talent resources. Each pol has their farm team, but there is only so much real talent to assemble numerous ‘A’ teams.
An "overall strategy" approach....
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 7:20PM EST (link)I agree with that is how they see it… and from a strategy standpoint I perfectly understand and agree in principle that if you can lock up a race or two you can focus your efforts to those harder fights…..
That is all any of this is about…. Strategy…. I don’t have to like their Picks, but I fully agree it is the best strategy!
Some seem to view that every little fight is the only fight…. there is alot on the plate — it is not like having that wonderful sports team with just a few areas that can be examined to be improved in the hopes of going over the top in the Championships…. This Republican team is looking to plug holes in a whole lot of positions and you just cannot get PERFECT free-agents for each of those spots.
We can continue to lament the choices we don’t agree on (but not that we should stop saying we are unhappy about the Player signed, just if we badger them endlessly so as to completely hurt our own cause because they will just stop listening to us ENTIRELY) or focus on helping with the overall strategy and get our REMINDERS in how we are NOT PLEASED with some aspects of how the Management is building the team.
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
An "overall strategy" approach....
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 7:20PM EST (link)I agree with that is how they see it… and from a strategy standpoint I perfectly understand and agree in principle that if you can lock up a race or two you can focus your efforts to those harder fights…..
That is all any of this is about…. Strategy…. I don’t have to like their Picks, but I fully agree it is the best strategy!
Some seem to view that every little fight is the only fight…. there is alot on the plate — it is not like having that wonderful sports team with just a few areas that can be examined to be improved in the hopes of going over the top in the Championships…. This Republican team is looking to plug holes in a whole lot of positions and you just cannot get PERFECT free-agents for each of those spots.
We can continue to lament the choices we don’t agree on (but not that we should stop saying we are unhappy about the Player signed, just if we badger them endlessly so as to completely hurt our own cause because they will just stop listening to us ENTIRELY) or focus on helping with the overall strategy and get our REMINDERS in how we are NOT PLEASED with some aspects of how the Management is building the team.
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
How about a Story (to supplement your sports analogy) ;-)
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 7:36PM EST (link)Since you used a sport analogy, I’ll try this one…..
This is the Story of a couple of people who have been customers of a Deli for some time. The first customer wanders into the Deli on a Daily basis, looks at the sandwiches, and informs the owner “I have been a long time customer, but I don’t like this new way you make the sandwiches and am therefore going to go over to the Deli across the street to buy my sandwiches. But, I’ll stop in each day to see when you change your sandwiches.”
The second customer is also not “pleased” with the new sandwiches. They kindly inform “I’m not really keen on the new sandwiches, but I’ll be happy to buy some of your wonderful Chicken Soup.”
To which Customer do you think this Deli owner is going to ask “What might we be able to do to meet your preferences?”
Maybe that will help?!?!? Since the Story method can work getting a point across to kids. and since some seem to act like children around here at times
lol (of course, some with ZERO sense of humor will no doubt think I am calling them children and how I’m such a Bully and this another personal attack… yadda, yadda, yadda….. boo hoo…. he’s picking on me…… it was a JOKE – did you see the 
and the lol — just some rib-poking…)
Take care friends
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
How about a Story (to supplement your sports analogy) ;-)
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 7:36PM EST (link)Since you used a sport analogy, I’ll try this one…..
This is the Story of a couple of people who have been customers of a Deli for some time. The first customer wanders into the Deli on a Daily basis, looks at the sandwiches, and informs the owner “I have been a long time customer, but I don’t like this new way you make the sandwiches and am therefore going to go over to the Deli across the street to buy my sandwiches. But, I’ll stop in each day to see when you change your sandwiches.”
The second customer is also not “pleased” with the new sandwiches. They kindly inform “I’m not really keen on the new sandwiches, but I’ll be happy to buy some of your wonderful Chicken Soup.”
To which Customer do you think this Deli owner is going to ask “What might we be able to do to meet your preferences?”
Maybe that will help?!?!? Since the Story method can work getting a point across to kids. and since some seem to act like children around here at times
lol (of course, some with ZERO sense of humor will no doubt think I am calling them children and how I’m such a Bully and this another personal attack… yadda, yadda, yadda….. boo hoo…. he’s picking on me…… it was a JOKE – did you see the 
and the lol — just some rib-poking…)
Take care friends
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
If you believe Quinnipiac
Jingles (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 4:48PM EST (link)It’s Crist in a walk:
http://www.pollster.com/polls/fl/10-fl-sen-reppr-wc.php
But things can change.
Those numbers were form april
scarlos (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 5:21PM EST (link)Back before Rubio actually announced his candidacy, and before the NRSC endorsed him, both of which I think would actually hurt his Poll numbers.
After all–anyone who was actually interested in the NRSC’s endorsement was voting for Christ anyway, and the backlash against this sort of dictation has got to be worth something.
It’s still a long way to go. But that’s all the more reason to start now.
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Here's a M-D poll
Jingles (Diary) Wednesday, May 20th at 11:29AM EST (link)That shows pretty much the same result:
http://www.ronsachs.com/docs/may2009poll.pdf
Crist has to be driven under 50% for Rubio to have shot.
Rubio still has 56% unknown numbers
scarlos (Diary) Wednesday, May 20th at 7:26PM EST (link)So he has alot of room to improve among Republican voters. 15 months is a long time after all.
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and while Rubio goes up Crist will go down...heh!...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, May 20th at 7:30PM EST (link)plus on this is when Crist goes down and I think he will he will as well make the NRSC irrelevent!
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TxCon (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 7:06PM EST (link)is to get the nominee elected in a general election. Until the nominee is chosen, butt out.
The NRSC's job
TxCon (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 7:06PM EST (link)is to get the nominee elected in a general election. Until the nominee is chosen, butt out.
Eric: Marco can't find Tallahassee with a Road Map
Section9 Tuesday, May 19th at 7:08PM EST (link)Marco means well. He’s a good conservative. But Crist delivered the goods to the voters, which is why they like him.
I was talking to a long time Republican political consultant. Marco is dead in the water and just doesn’t know it yet. Crist will win this nomination and the General. The NRSC simply made the mistake of alienating Base Conservatives by stating the obvious too early.
The problem, of course, is that this leaves the Governor’s office open for Alex Sink. Unless Jeb gets his buddy Al Cardenas to run against Alex, this place is going D for redistricting. Not nice.
As to Rubio? He should go for statewide cabinet office or even try a run at Alex. He won’t beat Crist, though.
“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill
"Delivered the goods"?
cwilson (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 11:44PM EST (link)Like the tax increases he’s trying to push thru? Like the total fecklessness with regards to property insurance? Like the asinine Drill Nowhere, Drill Never attitude — to “protect our tourism industry”?
I can’t be the only one to note that if gas is too expensive, Mom&Pop will be unwilling to load the kids in the Grand Touring MegaSUV for a road trip to Disney — and there goes our Tourism. And somehow, Cuba and China are more to be trusted drilling 45 miles from Miami than American regulated companies are, 60 miles from Tampa. (And I’ll mention two direct hits by major hurricanes over NOLA way, with nary a single drop of oil spilled).
Crist has a high overall approval rating in FL because the Democrats like him. Republicans, not nearly so much. And when push comes to shove in the general election, those FL Democrats who “approve” of Gov. Crist are NOT going to vote for him. To be well-liked by people who will NOT vote for you, while despised by a large cohort that, other things being equal, would be inclined to vote for you, does not make a majority on election day.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams
What is Al Cardenas up to these days, anyway?
Martin Knight (Diary) Wednesday, May 20th at 7:18AM EST (link)I believe he was the best Chairman the FLGOP has ever had. Is there any sign that he’ll be interested in the Governor’s office?
These guys don't behead you but you're dead to them just the same
katesmith (Diary) Tuesday, May 19th at 8:28PM EST (link)Anyone in congress the past few years had to know the US government was hugely behind making loans to people who couldn’t possibly pay them back. Nevertheless they did nothing, resulting in a collapse of our economy and loss of the life work and savings of many of us. All these guys huddling in DC right now are the definition of white collar criminals. They don’t behead you but they kill you just the same. From each one, I’d like to know in one sentence whey they haven’t resigned in shame.