For those who were questioning the National Council for New America based on who was not on board, one of the names of those not on board has been Sarah Palin. She is now on board.
Of course, as Rush said today, we don’t really need a listening tour. We need a teaching tour.
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
Steve Maley
Are Michael Steele or Steve Schmidt a part of the NCNA?
suzieQ (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 5:15PM EST (link)n/t
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Glad Erick finally saw the light. Palin can beging teaching Jeb and Cantor, forthwith. Amen! - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 5:16PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Wow...what's in the water today?
conservativemusician Monday, May 4th at 5:40PM EST (link)First Sessions is in as the GOP Judiciary chair and now Palin is in at the NCNA. Maybe they really are waking up…and wising up as to what the base really wants.
Yeah WE can teach them and they can listen to US...nt
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I just don't get it....
texas214 (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:12PM EST (link)I have a similar attitude to Allah over at HA, I don’t get the appeal of Palin. Good spokes person yes, leader of the Republican Party; NO. Her positions aren’t that much different from Romney, Huckabee, Jeb…. and her ability to get elected beyond the borders of Alaska are questionable.
By the way she took the stimulus $$$.
Sorry for the multiple posts
texas214 (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:19PM EST (link)Computer problems in the middle of the post
"Her ability to get elected beyond the borders of Alaska are questionable."
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 11:53PM EST (link)Isn’t that the SERIOUS problem of the Republican Party that the NCNA wants to solve?
Sorry for the multiple posts
texas214 (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:19PM EST (link)Computer problems in the middle of the post
Appeal of Palin...
azaeroprof (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:25PM EST (link)is easy to understand. It’s NOT about what she has done, or what she has said. It’s about WHO she is (or cynically, who she APPEARS to be). Romney SAYS he is pro-life, but noone really believes it. Palin PROVED she is pro-life in the most personal way. She is untainted by exposure to Washington, the very thing that has led to ridicule of her. She is genuine in a way that no other politician I can point to is. She has shown that she is willing to pay a very personal price for standing up for what she believes. And to not just go away to make her life easier.
Anyway, the real reason for this response is to point out that a governor taking stimulus $$$ is really to be expected. Yes, Jindal, Sanford, et al (& Palin) made big public points of refusing SOME of the stimulus $$. But ultimately, the governors are not serving their constituents by turning down more than a small amount of it. But there is not necessarily ANY correlation between a governor TAKING stimulus $$, and that same governor GIVING stimulus $$ out if he/she were to become POTUS.
In regards to taking the stimulus $$$ ...
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 7:26PM EST (link)So ????
You are forced to go to a dinner with 49 of your peers. Beforehand, you argue strenuously for separate checks, but a decision is made to split the bill into 50 equal checks regardless of what each individual orders. On the menu is a $5 hamburger and a $50 lobster. You watch as each of your 49 peers order the lobster. Thus, before you order, you are sitting on a $49 bill.
While you’d like to be frugal, your choice is between a $49.10 hamburger or a $50 lobster. Personally, I’d wistfully order the lobster, while realizing that before the next dinner, I will need to influence the group to elect separate checks so that I can choose a $5 hamburger.
One big differnce between Palin and Mitt
Josh Painter (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 8:11PM EST (link)is that she’s always been pro-gun and pro-life. Mitt has changed his postitions on these and nearly every other issue.
She had little choice but to take most of the stimulus. Her legislature voted to take it, and they had the votes to override.
What else do you have?
- JP
“An armed society is a polite society” – Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon” (1942)
I don't get it....
texas214 (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:16PM EST (link)I’m with Allah over at HA, I just don’t see the appeal. No disservice to Palin, but I don’t see what makes her any better spokesperson than others in the Party.
Can you say convention speech?
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:19PM EST (link)Who else has shown the ability to fire up the base? Hmmm?
WHO?!
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
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Poor comparison, but here goes....
texas214 (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 8:42PM EST (link)Obama gives a great speech too, but when asked to speak contemoraneously he’s a bit of a bore with no real coherence; something that Palin has had problems with.
She may have the “right” positions, but if she can’t convince others (ie. the independents) to come along then you have no hope. Rush was right, we need to teach, I’m just not convinced she is the teacher. The base is important, but Reagan’s success was to convince the middle to go along with the Republican base.
Wrong Wrong Wrong ....
lonebeagle Monday, May 4th at 9:16PM EST (link)What kind of conservative are you? A RINO “We always lose elections” type?
You sound like you’ve lifted talking points right out of PMSNBC. “Rush was right” and yet you sound like the MSM and DNC?
Rush is right when he says that Palin is the real deal. Palin is like Reagan and Reagan was great because he DID NOT pander to the “middle”.
What kind of idiot are you? You sound like you need to go back to the Kos.
If you REALLY listen to Rush, then you would know that Rush doesn’t believe that Republicans need the moderates to win elections. In fact, Rush says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE!
Republicans win when they run AS CONSERVATIVES. And Sarah Palin is A CONSERVATIVE!
John McCain is a “moderate” and he lost because of that–if Palin wasn’t on the ticket, McCain would have lost 49 states.
Nice try lefty.
I never called anyone a name ....
texas214 (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 10:43PM EST (link)but you are a fool. I never said McCain’s name, never said Palin wasn’t a true conservative, disparaged Rush, or claimed running as a conservative was wrong. I just questioned whether (as other conservatives have) she was the best person to carry the message.
Learn to read a post for what it says, not what you think it implies. If you are so concerned about defending Palin, fine defend her; but to claim that anyone who is not a diehard fan should go back to Kos is just ignorant (ps. for you that is different than stupid, it just means you don’t know better).
I’m just not convinced she is the teacher. Has there been one in the last 8 years?
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 11:50PM EST (link)BTW, those who spearheaded NCNA should be the first ones to be taught on conservatism.
Even the two Bushes would need some serious tutorials on fiscal conservatism.
Who said that we needed "independents"?
lonebeagle Tuesday, May 5th at 2:18AM EST (link)For those of you in Rio Linda, “middle” and “independents” means DEMOCRATS!
FYI Reagan did not win by appealing to “independents” and “middle” of anything.
Texas214:
“She may have the “right” positions, but if she can’t convince others (ie. the independents) to come along then you have no hope.”
REALLY? You took the words right out of the MSM’s mouth.
The quality of postings here has really gone downhill.
Reagan "Democrats"
texas214 (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 9:12AM EST (link)The reason he won is he convinced a large part of the electorate, including Democrats to go along. It doesn’t mean compromising your values, it means convincing the voting public that the conservative view is the best. We need converts, not to run off the “heretics”.
If stating the facts is “going downhill” we really don’t have a chance. Know your facts!!!
Why do you think
snewb098 Tuesday, May 5th at 9:16AM EST (link)McCain chose her?
He chose her for VP to get
support from the conservative base
and it worked. Do you think the MSM
would flock to Alaska the week after the GOP
convention to dig so hard for dirt if
they weren’t afraid of her?
That says it all.
I don't get it....
texas214 (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:16PM EST (link)I’m with Allah over at HA, I just don’t see the appeal. No disservice to Palin, but I don’t see what makes her any better spokesperson than others in the Party.
Apparently you haven't listened to her!
Scope (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:24PM EST (link)n/t
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redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:25PM EST (link)Noteworthy addition.
Translation:
Without Palin, the group was in jeapardy of having nobody pay attention to it.
^5
LibRick (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 7:32PM EST (link)you nailed it all in a sentence!
Hey, if conservatives can't
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 7:46PM EST (link)make fun of Republicans, what possible fun is left?
Sorry to see Palin get involved with this
Scope (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 6:26PM EST (link)just as I was sorry to see Jindal get involved. Didn’t Hillary Clinton have some kind of “listening tour” during her campaign? Must we copy the Democrats because we have no better ideas?
Where's Jim DeMint?
donnac1188 Monday, May 4th at 6:34PM EST (link)I’m not impressed until I see Senator DeMint’s name on the list…
The offer was on the table
SteveLA (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 7:04PM EST (link)If you read the linked article, there was a bit at the end of the story that appears like this group had been reaching out to Governor Palin, however some sort of communications glitch occurred. It’s good to see Palin have a seat at the table with this group.
“Cantor and Sen. John McCain had both started trying to reach Palin before the Council launched last week, Republicans said, and the lack of communication has been seen as another sign of the gap between the Beltway GOP and one of the party’s best-known figures”
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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
Communications glitch?
Josh Painter (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 8:15PM EST (link)Perhaps she just wanted to think it over before agreeing to work with this group. There was no time limit on the offer. And she will need someone to watch her back with the Romney and McCain long knives around.
- JP
“An armed society is a polite society” – Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon” (1942)
That one way
SteveLA (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 8:31PM EST (link)JP
That’s one way to look at it, but why not just chalk it up to a communications glitch, no point in making it more than that.
But it is also a chance for Palin to prove she can be a player on policy issues with some of the Washington crowd, which is what she will have to do anyway in a higher office. Bonus points: no McCain staffers to hinder what ever she wants to say so it will Palin unfiltered.
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I admit the explanation gave me pause
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 8:38PM EST (link)Wasn’t there a “communication glitch” in her last invite to an event as well (I forget which one).
Could be staff issues or being sore over the way she has been handled by McCain et al. Interesting.
Or it could be...
SteveLA (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 8:57PM EST (link)Paging Art to give us a worms eye view of how things work in Alaska under Governor Palin.
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Or it could be just a scheduling / travel thing
Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 9:07PM EST (link)If Art is correct, seems she may have plenty on her plate in Alaska, and AK ain’t around the corner.
Would be interesting to get his take, seems like a pattern.
I'll save Art the trouble...
azaeroprof (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 9:10PM EST (link)yada yada yada SHE EITHER DOESN’T KNOW OR DOESN’T CARE yada yada yada THE KNOWLES ADMINISTRATION IS REALLY RUNNING THINGS yada yada yada YOUR IMAGE OF HER IS BASED ONLY ON WHAT SHE SAID yada yada yada SHE HAS FEW REPUBLICAN FRIENDS yada yada yada. (end snark)
Seriously, Art’s comments about internal AK workings don’t seem terribly relevant with regards to this national ‘messaging’ group.
But he does it so much better (nt)
SteveLA (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 9:12PM EST (link)______________________________________
Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests
I'm jealous. Nobody ever parodies me. nt
redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 9:35PM EST (link)Not intended to be a parody...
azaeroprof (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 9:43PM EST (link)really just the ‘Cliffs Notes’ version!
Seriously, though, I respect Art’s opinions. He’s been around RS a lot longer than I have, and long enough to have credibility. But I really would like, just once, to hear him say SOMETHING nice about Sarah (other than ‘I’d vote to get her off the island.’)
President Palin
secondpatriot76 Monday, May 4th at 8:19PM EST (link)Let’s get used to saying President Palin. She will be the partys’ nominee in 2012 and she is the future of the Republican Party. She is pro-life and pro-gun and knows that marriage is between one man and one woman.
I will never vote for another Bush as long as I live. The Bushs’ have screwed up the Republican Party while they are in office and after they leave office. McCain should retire and let John Shadegg run for the seat and get a real Republican in there.
scott
You forgot one thing....
lonebeagle Monday, May 4th at 9:25PM EST (link)Sarah Palin is also a Christian and she is not afraid to live her life as one as well.
I’ll say that again, Sarah Palin IS A CHRISTIAN!
We all know that being a Christian is a no-no in today’s liberal world. The liberals only tolerate “Christians” if they:
1. Take an oath and say that “Christ” isn’t our saviour
2. Agree that on demand abortion MUST be allowed
3. “god” is just a theoretical construct (you know, not REAL)
4. Fill in the blank:
Now I would like to point out that just because Palin is a Christian, that doesn’t mean that she goes around demanding that everybody else has to be a Christian or that she condemns non-Christians. But it is an important fact to many people that Sarah Palin does show real character when she lives her life in a way that is consistent with her words.
So, if Jeb were to be the GOP nominee for 2012, you'd vote for Obama?
andysmith (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 12:12AM EST (link)I do agree about McCain retiring, by the way.
“Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ”
“Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. ”
“Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.”
-The great Ronald Reagan
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Can you say "Straw Man"? nt
lonebeagle Tuesday, May 5th at 2:11AM EST (link)yes, I would
kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 7:45AM EST (link)not only that, if the party is so stupid as to nominate another Bush, I would actively campaign for democrats at every level.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Don't be so hasty.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 12:51AM EST (link)We have several good NEW candidates besides Sarah. Let’s give all of them a chance to prove their worth. Fair competition is good for our party. nt
If Sarah's in I'll at least pay attention.
newagegop (Diary) Monday, May 4th at 8:22PM EST (link)If it’s Bushies and Romneys sans Sarah I could care less.
Oh and Sarah’s appeal is so easy to understand. She lives life as a rugged individual. Her appeal is she and her family do what made America great.
The other day she talked to a motorcycle builder on a bearskin about patriotism. That’s her appeal, no one else could have done that.
Well maybe Huck could have but only with a slimfast in hand.
Stopped yawning for a sec...
sdkruiser Monday, May 4th at 9:30PM EST (link)I had no interest in this group until Palin jumped in. GOP governors are then only members of the power structure who have any credibility at the moment. Still, this would have been a better idea 5 years ago.
The boys met in the corner of a pizza parlor!
panchita Monday, May 4th at 9:33PM EST (link)Something a bit larger may be in order if Sister Sarah shows.
Thompson/Palin 2012
Scope (Diary) Tuesday, May 5th at 6:40AM EST (link)Now that we have a young, inexperienced, arrogant, I’m having it my way president, in the White House, who will undoubtedly keep running as a far far left radical, the “youts” of the country, and everyone else who voted for Nobama, may be ready for someone with experience, intelligence, honesty, and character to pull them back up off their bungee cords from over the cliff. Fred Thompson, like Ken Blackwell, have ideas and have been willing to show them, and talk about them, rather than to stay in safe territory by saying nothing, so as not to hurt anyone’s feelings. Obama has been, and will continue to prove that “young” can be very very tretcherous. Palin as VP, can gain the best experience around, in the White House, and, then can run in 2016 when Fred has everything cleaned up in Washington. Fred and Jerri Thompson are big supporters of Palin.