Nancy Pelosi Tries to Have It Both Ways


According to Glenn Thrush at the Politico:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is pushing back on GOP charges that she knew about waterboarding for years and did nothing.

Pelosi says she was briefed by Bush administration officials on the legal justification for using waterboarding — but that they never followed through on promises to inform her when they actually began using “enhanced” interrogation techniques

So she says she got the legal justification, but they never told her they were actually going through with water boarding.

Well that’s a bit inconsistent with this 2007 Washington Post article:

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA’s overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

“The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough enough,” said a U.S. official who witnessed the exchange.

Way back in 2002, when Nancy Pelosi was actually rooting for us to win the war, she was happy for us to be water boarding terrorists. But in 2006, when she wa more interested in winning back Congress for the Democrats than the U.S. actually winning a war, she decided to throw under the bus all the people who kept us safe.


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Backfire

cannedjam (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 10:46PM EST (link)

I bet Nancy wishes Obama could have just left well alone. This witch hunt will not end favorably for Obama or congress.

For Obama to have such a well organized machine I really can’t understand how his staff lets his message be so inconsistent – The American public wants to move on from Bush – and to tell you the truth, when all this is aired, average level headed people will find themselves respecting Bush more for what he did to make us safe

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President Borat Obama

Beaglescout (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 2:59AM EST (link)

Why do they seem so inept? Because they’re actors all doing a Borat act!

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton

NO Act, They All Admire Borat....

rcov092 (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 6:24PM EST (link)

most people do admire those with greater intellect.

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Bad for Nancy? Good.

Robin Saturday, April 25th at 11:52AM EST (link)

I bet Nancy wishes Obama could have just left well alone. This witch hunt will not end favorably for Obama or congress.

I hope it does end badly for all quislings of the torture regime.

The American public wants to move on from Bush

So bring Bush to justice and close that wound.

 
 

Leaks and more leaks

SteveLA (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:08PM EST (link)

Erick

I wonder if Nasty Nancy realizes that there are lots of experts now at leaking, developed skill at the Agency during the Bush years, and those who really don’t like Obama and the Nasty Nancy will leak all sorts of information about what she knew and when she knew it.

I think Cheney got it right, now that the memos are out, let the results of what those techniques produced come out too. Donks won’t much like the facts to come out.

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

Mr. Cheney was right in calling the bluff

antisocial (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 12:15AM EST (link)

Now that the damage has been done, let everything come out. Selective exposure won’t fly.

How can Nancy Pelosi say she was not told when these interrogation methods were used? These techniques were “devised/created” to be used. Nancy Pelosi is a pathological liar.

Let the “Moral Police” face the realities of “war”.

BTW… Wasn’t Harry Truman a democrat? I am not saying he did not act in the best interests of United States…. but isn’t frying people more severe than waterboarding?

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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What is to be done?
——————————
No. You can’t – Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!

This is basically....

jazzycmk (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 10:55PM EST (link)

…..the Dems Iraq war claim redone.

All those high profile Dems claimed that they didn’t realize their vote on authorizing force in Iraq would really lead to war. Apparently they were shocked into silence when the bombs started dropping because I don’t remmber them immediately protesting. No, they waited until public sentiment turned against the war and then tried to claim that they had been misled. What’s amazing is that so many people bought that. My reaction was always, “How could you not understand what you were voting for? You’re too dumb to be a rep of mine.”

And now Pelosi is trying a variation of that argument. “I was told about these techniques, but didn’t think they would use them.” Huh?

The difference now is that public sentiment is not in Pelosi’s favor. The more she presses, the more we’re going to find out that Dems knew plenty

If I had to guess, Obama is going to push her hard to call off the dogs. This sideshow is serving its purpose for him. It’s distracting people from the ethical challenges of Rangel, Harman, Feinstein, and Murtha. It’s also distracting from the debates on cap & trade and health care, the latter of which the Dems are trying to fast track through the budget reconciliation process without allowing full debate.

In a couple of weeks, if the ethical issues of his fellow Dems have blown over, and if he has gotten most of what he wants from Congress, he will magnaminously announce that he’s asked the attorney general to stop pursuing this so that we stop looking at the past and move to the future. MSM will hail him as “Obama the merciful” (although they will grumble in private about not getting their pound of flesh).

jcmk

“90% of people don’t care about your problems…..and the other 10% are glad you have them” – former football coach Lou Holtz

I think they are creating all this hype

antisocial (Diary) Saturday, April 25th at 11:44PM EST (link)

to divert attention. Tea parties had people focus on government access and economy. Its all about changing the conversation. With cap-n-trade and universal-healthcare.

With healthcare you will slowly see intervention in human evolution. Remember that’s what founded planned parenthood. What better way to get rid of weak genetic folks than deny them healthcare and eliminate them. That is Progressives of the early 20th century for you.

I don’t think democrats care about ethics issues. They never have.

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
—————————–
What is to be done?
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No. You can’t – Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!

It should have been "government excess" ...

antisocial (Diary) Saturday, April 25th at 11:46PM EST (link)

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Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
—————————–
What is to be done?
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No. You can’t – Moe Lane
——————————
The Emperor has no clothes!!!

 
 
 
 

Here's a leak from the White House

Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 7:32PM EST (link)

“I think people would tell you that there was information that was procured that was helpful and information that was procured that was made up,” Gibbs told reporters.

“Nobody could ever likely tell you that any information derived couldn’t also have been derived from another means,” he added.

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Taking a leak while answering

candoo2 (dkos funluvn1) (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 7:35PM EST (link)

or just spewing talking points?

I’m confused as to how this is a leak.

Well you have manufacturing defect.

antisocial (Diary) Saturday, April 25th at 11:25PM EST (link)

You are a born to be confused.

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
—————————–
What is to be done?
——————————
No. You can’t – Moe Lane
——————————
The Emperor has no clothes!!!

 
 
 
 

IN SHORT, PELOSI IS A LIAR!

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:31PM EST (link)

And there are many of them in Washington DC.

this crew takes alternate-reality to new heights though

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:51PM EST (link)

it doesn’t matter what was said 2 seconds before and with proof standing right next to them in0frame of the camera with them… they will just say whatever BS a Liberal needs to hear to believe… Them or or lying eyes?… the Liberals will choose the deception over the truth any/every time!

Liberals =

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"Hear no truth, see no truth, speak no truth." nt

wdgf Friday, April 24th at 2:04AM EST (link)
 
 

If you listen to Pelosi herself...

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:58PM EST (link)

she doesn’t ever seem to ever know anything… yet she is to be “followed” …. I guess the Blind do prefer the Blind leading them, so to speak.

It was suggested that Pelosi be “put under oath” …. she needs to be put on a Lie Detector … or perhaps, water-boarded so she can judge first hand whether the tactic works at getting people to eventually give up the truth … it is certainly the only way she’ll ever give up the truth!

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“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

wait... that won't work on second thought...

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 12:03AM EST (link)

she’d quickly give up the truth under water-boarding…. but then immediately thereafter perpetuate the line/Lie that she was just telling Republicans what they wanted to hear but not the truth — people with zero understanding of how a successful interrogation works would buy into that easy. That is, of course, really for another diary.

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

I see nothing and I hear nothing, Hogan!

DONTREADONME (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 12:09AM EST (link)

Usually when people do not tell you anything that means they are hiding something. I think she assumes that the detainees pleaded that they knew nothing at all and the mean Americans did not believe them because you know Bush was the President and he wanted to torture people, Oh wait a minute that was Cheney forced the issue of waterboarding, yea that’s the ticket.

 

GIGO means no truth from Pelosi

Beaglescout (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 3:01AM EST (link)

To give up the truth requires knowing the truth. We’re talking about Pelosi here. Garbage In, Garbage Out.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton
 
 
 

Now who you gonna believe Nancy or the Evil Republicans...

DONTREADONME (Diary) Thursday, April 23rd at 11:59PM EST (link)

I mean seriously, Nancy said she had no idea that the techniques were used and that is all the American public needs to know. Just watch MSNBC they will confirm Nancy’s story.

 

Pelosi smoked it, but she didn't inhale. -nt-

NightTwister (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 12:24AM EST (link)

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

that nipped/tucked permanent Dear in the Headlights look...

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 12:45AM EST (link)

she has makes her look like she is always in the ozone

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 

Obama may have cost Pelosi the Speakership,

spainishirish (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 12:36AM EST (link)

and she’s too clueless to realize it yet. There is no turning back from this suicidal posturing.

There will be leak, leak, leak, leak from now until the mid-term elections about two things. The first is that, as Erick pointed out, Pelosi and company lied and supported these life-saving measures. The second is that, as implied in the first, lives were saved.

The Democrats are on their way down.

You may be right

fisk2521 Friday, April 24th at 7:46AM EST (link)

Maybe, just maybe Obama meant to cost Pelosi the speakership…. just sayin’

LDavis

Obama better be careful and watch his back if this was his true intention...

conservativemusician Friday, April 24th at 4:49PM EST (link)

You know…the woman scorned thing and all.

 
 
 

Watch closely, Nancy is doing herself!

UpLateAgain (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 1:02AM EST (link)

She has stated publicly that she knew nothing about waterboarding. If a special prosecutor is called, she’s toast, because she’ll have to admit under oath or in deposition that she lied about that, or continue the lie. Word is, there are plenty of witnesses…..

Is that a blue dress she’s wearing?

You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.

 

peloski and reid are classic examples of why we need term limits

bobojake (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 1:22AM EST (link)

we can not stand another 2 years of these incompetent liars being in charge.

not sure, term limits will not make the voters more intelligent -nt

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 1:27AM EST (link)

nt

Molon Labe!

neither will they make Pelosi and Reid any more intelligent-nt

DONTREADONME (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 1:44AM EST (link)

Intelligence in a Dem-controlled Congress...

TNJim (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 2:13AM EST (link)

… now there’s an oxymoron for ya!

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Another downside to moonbat districts

SG_Lominac (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 6:23AM EST (link)

and losing the majority. Committes and speakerships will inevitably be chaired by moonbats who never lose an election. Pelosi, Conyers, Waxman etc.

From the movie “Hard Times”

Jill Ireland: “What does it feel like to knock somebody down?”
Charles Bronson: “It makes me feel a hell of a lot better than it does him.”

 

Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.

Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 5:05PM EST (link)

I’d rather take a chance that voters actually send someone with half a brain once in awhile rather then constantly sending a knownLIB back to DC.

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Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
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in theory I don't believe in term limits

Doc Holliday (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 10:31PM EST (link)

they seem to be anathema to our rights to vote for whomever we wish. In practice, it seems they might be needed because of the entrenched interests/ DC corruption we all know about. But I still think we need to limit the stupidity of the electorate by getting rid of NEA and Drive by power. That is how we get this country back on track.

Molon Labe!

 
 
 

Nice thought, but term limits can't fix stupid...or faulty moral character...

conservativemusician Friday, April 24th at 4:52PM EST (link)

Which is in large abundance on the Dem side of the aisle, both with their leaders and with those voters who stupidly continue sending them back to office to screw up the country for the rest of us.

 

Nice thought, but term limits can't fix stupid...or faulty moral character...

conservativemusician Friday, April 24th at 4:52PM EST (link)

Which is in large abundance on the Dem side of the aisle, both with their leaders and with those voters who stupidly continue sending them back to office to screw up the country for the rest of us.

The Point Is, They Limit Their Accumulation of Power (nt)

IJB Saturday, April 25th at 12:00AM EST (link)
 
 

Get ready for the crapstorm to ratchet things up. Photos being released

Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 7:11PM EST (link)

“Obama Administration to Release Detainee Abuse Photos; Former CIA Official Says Former Colleagues ‘Don’t Believe They Have Cover Anymore’” Jake Tapper ABC newsblog

These photos will be plastered everywhere but the media says they do us a favor by not publishing 9/11 or any terror photos against Americans.

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

oh my nt

mom2oneson (Diary) Friday, April 24th at 7:24PM EST (link)
 

It's as simple as this...

Ned Reck (Diary) Sunday, April 26th at 12:00AM EST (link)

If Nancy attended the briefings and claims she didn’t know about the “waterboarding”… she is grossly incompetent and/or lazy in her congressional position.

If Nancy attended the briefings and claims the actual use of “waterboarding” was never discussed… she is a liar.

In reference to Eric’s Topic Header: “Nancy Pelosi Tries to Have It Both Ways”

In this respect… she can have it both ways.

Ned Reck

On the plains of “Hesitation”… lie the blackened bones of
countless millions… who… at the dawn of victory…
sat down to rest… and while resting….. DIED.
~ Anonymous