Comments on: How Many Americans Will Die Because of Barack Obama’s Weak National Security Leadership?

By: Ward_Off_Monkey

Ward_Off_Monkey — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:32:03 +0000

I’ve got a friend who is a Yellow Dog Democrat and listened to all the crap for eight years about how bad and evil McChimpyBurtonHitlerBush was. Now she doesn’t even want to hear one thing negative about poor little O because she is so, so proud of him. I asked her what she was proud of and was just glared at. Hard to wake them up when they will not listen at all.

Another terrorist attack will occur and that is what will be required to wake up many in this country. I just did not like the phrase, “And the sooner they die the better” however true that may be to minimize the damage Obama and the far left do to this country.

By: Common_Cents

Common_Cents — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:01:19 +0000

With his preemptive apology to the CIA before he threw them under the bus, it could be sooner than later. I think it will take awhile for what we have in place to crumble at Obama’s hand. But it is surely coming, which saddens me.

By: RJD

RJD — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:44:42 +0000

The CIA waged a misinformation war against the Bush Administration for what, 4-5 years at least? If Obama goes stepping on the wrong toes, he will be the CIA’s next target.

By: Robert A. Hahn

Robert A. Hahn — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:10:21 +0000

Since you had already revealed yourself to be a practitioner of argumentum ad Nazium, I suppose it should not have surprised me that you would close by offering us a choice between agreeing with you and supporting torture.

Combining both rhetorical flourishes in the same note does, however, raise the issue of whether you are here to make sense or to present us with another annoying troll to toss on The Pile.

As you compose further notes, choose wisely.

By: mbecker908

mbecker908 — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:53:25 +0000

You are either an idiot of the first order, so stupid you have a reserved spot in the rain for you and your immediate family, or both.

You can leave now. We have unwritten rules about inbreeding, and you’re why.

By: Tbone

Tbone — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:45:32 +0000

“then maybe, just maybe, we can wake enough of our starry-eyed
countrymen to reality to rein in Obama and his minions.”

By: bk

bk — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:33:16 +0000

As I said in another thread, the Obama Doctrine is shaping up as a reworked version of the old “better that 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man go to jail.”

“Better that _____________ than 1 known terrorist be waterboarded.”
a) 100 American hostages are beheaded
b) 1,000 Americans are blown up in a shopping mall
c) 10,000 Americans are poisoned via the water supply
d) 100,000 Americans are killed/injured by a dirty bomb
e) Make up your own

By: Amy Miller

Amy Miller — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:13:41 +0000

…but then again, there are lots of worrisome things going on in the world right now. Nobody loves war, or torture, but they are necessary evils. Flushing “enhanced interrogation techniques” down the toilet because they might not produce the same results every time is akin to banning the use of bombs in a war, because a noncombatant might get hit.

Perhaps this will make things a little less foggy: 99.9% of the people we use these tactics on WANT TO KILL YOU. They want to kill you in the most horrifying, cataclysmic way possible. If it means the difference between dying for their sick propaganda and not vexing the sensibilities of the Europeans, then hand me the hose.

By: EvanWeeks

EvanWeeks — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:13:00 +0000

Liberals have a tendency to rail and scream about tactics that, when offered power, they turn around and use extensively.

The politicization of the Department of Homeland Defense was something liberals cried about for years during Bush’s presidency. “It’s too much power! It can be used in horrible ways,” they cried… and yet it only takes a cursory scan of the report on right-wing terrorism with a critical eye to see the political paintbrush at work.

For years we’ve been subjected to moaning about NSA wiretaps being used to illegally spy on US Citizens (via the laws laid out in USAPATRIOT, only communications involving an overseas component), and yet now we see them introduce possibly the single most draconian domestic intelligence bill ever to see the light of day in the Cybersecurity Act of 2009, a bill that would give the executive branch the ability to shut down internet service for millions of Americans, spy on communications (implied here is further regulation of encryption methods within US borders), regulate and “standardize” systems security in America, and other such idiotic measures.

So… follow the pattern, and whatever they profess to revile, they use to terrifying effect shortly after gaining power. Can you imagine authorizing the techniques used at Gitmo for police interviews? Screw polygraphs, how about sleep deprivation, high-pitched high-decibel sounds, temperature torture and other such methods… I’m reminded of the last part of Orwell’s 1984, wherein torture is used, not to elicit a confession. Those are easy to procure. They use torture to completely brainwash Winston into loving Big Brother, into embracing the idea that the Party’s rule is in the people’s best interests. Scary, scary stuff.

By: crazymountain

crazymountain — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:03:50 +0000

The weakness shown by BHO and his deference to the King of Oil, just tells me what he has learned since childhood. He IS a muslim and believes that the US, Britian and Australia deserve all the muslims can dish out. For anyone who has studied this (alleged) man, none of this is a surprise. He is, at best, a weak, political partisan hack, undecisive and just praying for approval from the world. He obviously does NOT think the US is part of the world, as he shows NO need for approval from US citizens.
We WILL be hit again, big time. Our intelligence resources will not do anything but monitor communications, as Obama has told them “Do your job and you WILL be prosecuted.” IF there are elections in 2010, he will lose the Senate and House. However, I think he will be the Western Hemisphere’s next Fidel or Hugo. We are in SERIOUS danger as a country.

By: Aaron Gardner

Aaron Gardner — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:50:26 +0000

Quit trying to compare what Conservatives supported to nazis….we don’t play that game here.

By: ussredpower

ussredpower — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:45:15 +0000

…that the dang Nazis and Soviets loved using. And I was reading more of that report, and he said that even though the interrogation methods led to high value info, he still “would not have approved those methods.” Then I read this:

“The information gained from these techniques was valuable in some instances, but there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means,” Admiral Blair said in a written statement issued last night. “The bottom line is these techniques have hurt our image around the world, the damage they have done to our interests far outweighed whatever benefit they gave us and they are not essential to our national security.”

I just think we can be conservative and not support torture.

By: Praveen

Praveen — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:30:39 +0000

Not sure if the words were same but I definitely got the message right.

Get Local. Anything else is welcome but not enough.

By: Erick Brockway

Erick Brockway — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:15:55 +0000

So to speak!
Betting the leak of Adm. Blair’s memo causes more stir than the substance.

By: redneck_hippie

redneck_hippie — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:15:30 +0000

These future outcomes and the dread of what this nation will have to go through underpin a very large part of the dissatisfaction with this president. A president who is STILL trying every trick he can muster to make political hay while succeeding in cutting off our ability to protect ourselves.

There may yet be time to delay the worst of the damage if the nation cares to do so. Yes, we must vote them out but there is much more we must do. I’m strong for it and I know I’m not alone. July 4th seems an excellent occasion to force attention on our nation’s need for strong defense.

By: JadedByPolitics

JadedByPolitics — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:59:36 +0000

9-11 was a SHOCK I expect that with their appeasement attitude that we will be hit again and I don’t believe it will be after he is gone….terrorists hit when they think they can and it is as obvious to them as us that this is a WEAK administration!

By: Ward_Off_Monkey

Ward_Off_Monkey — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:56:22 +0000

before another large-scale terrorist attack occurs, but I would not so willingly
sacrifice my fellow citizens to force the Obama administration’s hand. If
conservatives (not Republicans) can stay vocal and on message about
national security, fiscal responsibility and other important issues through all
venues available, especially through such grass roots efforts as the Tea
Parties, then maybe, just maybe, we can wake enough of our starry-eyed
countrymen to reality to rein in Obama and his minions.

By: Tbone

Tbone — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:42:30 +0000

Yep, we might as well face it. There will be a terror attack and it just may be the catalyst to turn the 15% of white, middle class taxpayers who voted for Obama into realists.

So, quit bemoaning what is coming because Obama, Pelosi and Reid are NOT going to change their direction. My only hope is that it is in a real blue city in a real blue state.

By: Next93

Next93 — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:34:33 +0000

Carter gutted the intelligence services in the 70s and it took a generation for 9/11 to result. FDR created a demographic time bomb with a century-long fuse. Democrat craft “solutions” to fix transient problems then blame Republicans for the long-term catastrophies that result.

That flushing sound you hear is your country heading south

By: red4ever

red4ever — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:26:41 +0000

I wake up every morning afraid I will see another building on fire. I don’t want to feel the way I did on September 11, 2001. My mother woke me up that morning with the news. Since she was incoherent, I had to turn on the tv. I couldn’t process it. I just had to tell my mother I would call her back.

I don’t want to go through another day like that. I don’t want to wait and pray that survivors would be found. I don’t want to comfort friends who lost friends and family.

I want my country safe. I want a President who understands that terrorists cannot be reasoned with. They don’t have any demands to be met. They just want us dead.