Comments on: I’ve Made David Shuster Cry

By: itrytobenice

itrytobenice — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:12:12 +0000

There will be a few Martin Knights and Moe Lanes but there will also be Thomases, c17wifes and Jadeds. Some will be incognito because to be discovered would be too bad and they know it. Those are the names I want.

By: Jwt4412

Jwt4412 — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:28:32 +0000

The list exists… it has journos on it.

So it isn’t Shuster or Ober…. it’s their producers, writers and researchers… same result.

By: spainishirish

spainishirish — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:43:48 +0000

“I get lots of unsolicited email.”
“Anyone can be ‘placed’ on a list.”
“If I were on the list it didn’t form my news stories.”
“I’ve reviewed recent emails and it is not impossible I was on the list.”

The next step will be to minimize the topic:

“Even though I apparently was on some sort of list it didn’t influence me.”

Finally, attack the source:

“This claim about that my being on an email list is nothing more than right-wing paranoia.”

I re-read the Politico account, and again think the next shoe to drop will be how long this has gone on. Two years? My guess is since Bush v. Gore. As pointed out above, we’ll get details after someone decides to cash in.

By: Martin Knight

Martin Knight — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:23:26 +0000

Pretty soon, Klein would be telling us it was all a figment of our imaginations – the list never existed or he’s the sole member of the listserv who sends stuff to himself..

What I’m pretty certain of is that there are a lot of “anonymous” members of that listserv, people whose identities only the administrators of the JList know, and I’d strongly bet that some of them are Democratic communications staffers on the hill, White House staffers, news show producers on the networks, supposedly straight news reporters, and their editors.

I would bet anything that Bill Keller is on that list under an assumed name.

In other words, any list of members Ezra Klein would produce or have mysteriously “leaked” is certain to be doctored.

By: Alitheia

Alitheia — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:53:06 +0000

By: ddstrain

ddstrain — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:33:06 +0000

of the GOP sitting there leading with their chin for the past 8 years. The Left has lied, twisted words, mangled context and used a propaganda machine that would shame Goebbels.

When they spew slogans (all they have), retaliate with facts (what they fear).

Tally-Ho

By: paulincolo

paulincolo — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:26:50 +0000

my guess is that shuster isn’t on the list as klein says, because… wait for it…..wait for it……

he was on the list, and has now been taken off, so that neither can be called a liar. wow, this is easy, maybe I will become a leftist liberal.

oohh, let me try another….. did you know that NBC discovered the dangers of GM trucks exploding gas tanks (course that is after they rigged with a bomb).

or a more recent version on those racist rednecks:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2006/04/inside_the_sausage_factory_how.html

I will say it is curious why they are so defensive and so secretive about this list. Its not like people don’t know the lefties coordinate their “news” stories and its not illegal.

My guess#2 is that there are people in the administration and the DNC on this list.

By: IJB

IJB — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:07:03 +0000

Note the exact wording:

“None the less, I have never participated in any e-mail list serve to collaborate with anybody outside of NBC News to form news stories.”

That’s a very specific “denial” – he’s claiming that he’s never generated a “news” story from the mail list. That doesn’t say anything about editorial content, nor anything about “non-news” stories, nor anything about *choice* of which stories MSNBC would choose to go with.

The word is “form” – IOW, nebulous.

“Furthermore, until I was directed to your blog, I had never even heard that there might even be a list-serve for bloggers, policy guys, and journalists to collaborate on-line.”

Right, because to Shuster, they’re not any of those things, they’re just “like-minded friends and colleagues” who “discuss” things.

He probably doesn’t even think he’s done anything wrong, and probably doesn’t believe that he’s been influenced in anyway. (Lefties are all really good at the kind of self-delusion where they all convince themselves they’re not all followers and herd animals, when they all are.)

Now, if he’d said, “I’ve never, ever been on *any* mailing list”, that would be a lot more definitive.

Nice try, David Shuster.

But, result: FAIL.

By: tsquare

tsquare — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:47:08 +0000

All that hot talk gets me worked up…

By: civil_truth

civil_truth — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:37:23 +0000

We’re in a war for survival. We can’t cede any more territory. Nor can expect the Democrats to do our work for us.

By: jimmuy8

jimmuy8 — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:20:21 +0000

Because there are people who are in positions to know inside stuff in the GOP that are on it. Or are directly connected to those that are.

That’s my guess.

Guess # 2:

One other set of names that is on this list: Big name Democrat donors, the kind of people who are getting nice, fat bailouts or plush appointments right now.

This list isn’t limited to journalists and bloggers–there is money behind it . . .

By: Moe Lane

Moe Lane — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:17:07 +0000

The free ride is over.

When they lie about you, call them on it. Loudly.
When they get in your face, get right back into theirs.
When they try to change the subject, don’t let them.

By: spaceman_spiff

spaceman_spiff — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:06:14 +0000

Lets see, how do they say it in France? Oh, yea. Touche!

Revenge is a dish best served cold.
–Pierre Choderlos de Laclos

By: NeoKong

NeoKong — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:58:29 +0000

Now I will have to find another word.
Ooch…

Ahh…yikes!

Hmmm…..ZOWIE!
Damn…(sigh)

I got nothing.

By: Hammer2008

Hammer2008 — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:52:37 +0000

So in this case, David Shuster does not need to be featured in this:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.parcoltop11.35513.ImageFile.jpg

By: Dave_in_Fla

Dave_in_Fla — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:45:26 +0000

It can’t be that hard to infiltrate and get added, then post a few hundred juicy tidbits publicly. It’s been obvious for at least 4 years that there is a common set of talking points being generated, thanks to the daily use of common terms.

How long till someone decided to go for the big money and sell out? Not like they generically have a strong moral compass to suppress the urge.

By: USNJIMRET

USNJIMRET — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:39:09 +0000

so he’s already not watched by hardly anyone possessed of a functioning brain anyway.
2. So he’s a lefty, which kind of went with 1.
3. The only people who might, might mind you, believe that he isn’t a lefty, don’t watch MSNBC, so his protests aren’t being seen anyway.
Why bother?

By: briefsynopsis

briefsynopsis — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:36:16 +0000

Great Smack down, however, I sincerely hope you got played! Because if there is even a little smoke to this fire,… then we are faced with spotting the left, and then overcoming, a 15 +/- percentage point deficit come 2010.

doable, but daunting

By: spainishirish

spainishirish — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:35:21 +0000

By: spainishirish

spainishirish — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:34:01 +0000

I can’t believe Shuster or MSNBC even would bother to issue a denial. The “network” has been so transparently biased that it almost has crossed the line into in-kind (and illegal) campaign contributions for years. I want to check it out first, but apparently the parent company GE’s poor financial shape has not been forgotten recently, and therer’s your quid. If real enterprise journalism still existed, I imagine we would find the email list serve has existed for much longer than has been exposed.