Comments on: A Peek at the Left Wing Echo Chamber

By: aardpig

aardpig — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:53:57 +0000

Mea culpa, too much wine.

By: Achance

Achance — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:54:46 +0000

By: janis

janis — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:46:25 +0000

so very wrongly. It’s not “look to hard”, it’s “look TOO hard.” Tsk, tsk, tsk. Sloppy, that.

By: aardpig

aardpig — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:44:51 +0000

I think these broadsheets do a much better job than in the US, but they still all suffer from the problem of a very narrowly focused spectrum of debate. In the UK, the Grauniad sets the left end, the Torygraph the right, and all subsequent debate takes place between these limits — with no discussion at all of what goes on outside.

It’s the bias in what’s *covered* that’s just as pernicious as the bias in the coverage itself. A recent example springs to mind of Jon Stewart’s whacking of Jim Cramer: how much coverage did any of the NBC family give to this? Indeed, can you imagine any of the NBC stations presenting an expose of, say, the arms trade?

By: janis

janis — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:43:25 +0000

I never said that bias didn’t exist on the right, I said that if I found out that the right had their own secret website to coordinate daily talking points, I would be equally disgusted with them. Does that compute?

By: janis

janis — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:40:56 +0000

Oh, wait, I just re-read it–Democrats? As for what you called O, you insult my cats, but they’re used to it by now. Other than that, I hark back your comment from a couple of weeks ago, the one about Vikings and axes and lefties. Your equation was that Vikings and axes were better than dealing with lefties any day. Upon further cogitation, I think the equation should be:

Vikings+ axes + lefties= good times

By: aardpig

aardpig — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:40:17 +0000

http://www.alternet.org/immigration/124690/fox_”news”,_lou_dobbs_and_drudge_push_lie_that_stmulus_cash_will_go_to_immigrants/

By: Achance

Achance — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:34:04 +0000

but it is the only word I have to describe these people. Just useless, worthless, dependent, unproductive mouths. It is easy to understand why the totalitarians take them all out into the woods and work and starve them to death. Every day of this administration has me thinking better of true totalitarians!

By: janis

janis — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:28:45 +0000

So, you know, they must be. Hard times. For the media, anyway.

By: Martin Knight

Martin Knight — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:24:32 +0000

… are serious broadsheets in their respective countries despite their open biases.

But they none the less report the news and they tend to get it right. The reason for this is that they know the other side would be more than happy to rub it in their faces if they let ideology affect the basic how, what, where, who and why of a story.

In other words, they keep each other honest, and yet get their point of view across. IOW, being open need not be the same as lying to your readers,

By: Achance

Achance — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:49 +0000

Some people in very vulnerable industries, in very vulnerable jobs, or who made some very bad choices may be facing some difficulties. Difficulties are something that thanks to predominantly Republican governance for the last couple of decades few Americans have ever experienced. Some of us remember the Democrat days of the late ’60s, ’70s, and into the ’80s when home mortgages were near 20%, unemployment above 10%, and inflation even above that some years. If you think these are hard times, you, like your President, are a pu#$y.

Adapt, improvise, overcome.

By: janis

janis — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:48 +0000

it’s not everyone’s. I read things here on RedState, my ideological home of choice, that I don’t like or may not agree with, but I read them anyway to be informed. It’s great to be faced with the opinions of others, as long as I know up front that it IS opinion. What the lefty rags did and are doing still, is claiming that something is news when it’s only their slant on something. Or sometimes it’s just an outright misrepresentation. Can right-leaning news sources make the same mistake? Undoubtedly, but reading a range of sources gives you the complete picture pretty handily.

The lefties just have their echo chamber and pre-arranged talking points. If I found out that right-leaning news outlets did the same thing, I’d be equally disgusted. But I don’t think they can be accused of such.

By: Martin Knight

Martin Knight — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:17:41 +0000

By: Jack_Savage

Jack_Savage — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:10:13 +0000

And I should get in the business of selling padlocks for big ol’ hundred year old doors.
Oh, it is being fixed all right – once and for all. Have faith, grasshopper. People want truth, and the anyone who can provide it will prosper.

By: aardpig

aardpig — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:06:52 +0000

…that unbiased reporting is more viable as a business model than biased reporting — and that just isn’t true. Consumers on each side like to have their prejudices confirmed (our brains are wired to find this comforting); hence, the media on each side of the divide makes the most bucks by lying to its flock.

By: janis

janis — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:00:07 +0000

That takes away the freedom thing. The only thing that will solve this is having the last left wing rag go under and that will be that. The ones that are still left will be the ones that are more balanced.

If you write it, they will buy it. And if people buy it, advertisers will support it by buying ads.

By: aardpig

aardpig — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:50:46 +0000

Can this be legislated away? I can’t see the market doing the job; there’s nothing about maximizing profit that will ensure a fair and balanced media.

By: aardpig

aardpig — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:47:10 +0000

…one of the most disgusting aspects of the US media is their pretence of balance. But that, too, is a marketing decision, designed to maximize audience pull.

Given that, all is not particularly good with newspapers in, for instance, the UK; see http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/table/2009/mar/06/abcs-national-newspapers

By: Tbone

Tbone — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:45:21 +0000

Well now I’m must have…… oh well. LOL

By: Tbone

Tbone — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:43:43 +0000

of your knowledge skimming something. That must be why you’re F*** up. LOL