The point I made about the three posts was that it appeared that you were taunting scope, rather than engaging him in good faith. In the future make you point and then wait for a reply…give it a few hours if you need to…be patient. It will help you in your discussion too because you won’t be so heated in your responses to each other.

As far as the ouster of Frederick…I am not from VA so I really don’t have a say. I would say though that the news that is coming out is not great, and it appears to be coming from the grassroots. Additionally having his wife possibly running for his seat is a pretty egregious display of nepotism, even if covered in a democratic cloke. With that being the case, I lean in support of his ouster.

Next time I deal with you would you like me to put on kid gloves and speak in soft words? Don’t bother answering because I won’t bother changing anyhow.

Good day.

I thought I was just a RedState poster from Virginia looking forward to seeing more information as to why Frederick should be removed as Chairman. I have not state a position for Chairman Frederick. I wrote that I thought his removal would be a divisive distraction for the party. Why? His removal might cause his supporters not to work to elect Republicans in November.

It appeared that divisiveness and anger hurt Gilmore in Northern Virginia during the last election cycle. I am not a party insider but from the outsider it appeared that people who supported Tom Davis, thought he would have won a primary, refused to back Gilmore. The result was the election of Mark Warner.

I was not calling for support of Chairman Frederick because I do not have enough information to do so. (I know that makes me ignorant and unworthy of respect. ;o)) I was calling for party unity, because Republicans in Virginia have lost the last two Governors’ races and the last two Senate races. Its okay call me ignorant but I just cannot imagine that fratricide would be helpful during this election cycle.

Scope Monday, March 16th at 8:06PM EDT “and you are apprently clueless about the McDonnell position, against Frederick as the VA R Chair, and you are looking to become a “delegate” at the Republican Convention this year.”
Let’s see no I am not ignorant of McDonnell position against Frederick. Yes, I am hoping to be a delegate to the Virginia State Republican Party Convention in May, I am a supporter of my state senator Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II. I look forward to voting for him as Attorney General at the Virginia State Republican Party Convention.

Scope Monday, March 16th at 11:29AM EDT
“At 9:42am on January 4, 2009, Jeffrey M. Frederick”
I read the e-mail you shared and it does not demonstrate to me that he needs to be removed as chairman. To the contrary, I liked his answer particularly. “We’re very busy at the Party, first trying to rebuild, and second (importantly) gearing up for 2009.” and “They key to our success is coming together as a Party, building the grassroots, and providing our candidates with the help they need.”

emgbane Monday, March 16th at 10:14AM EDT
“If you are republican in Virginia and you do not know who the candidates for Governor and Lt. Governor are, they have yet to chosen. McDonnell and Bolling have announced for Governor and Lt. Governor and they are unopposed. There are three candidates for Attorney General. The state convention is in May.”

Scope Monday, March 16th at 12:02PM EDT
“If you are a republican in Virginia, and you don’t know who the candidate for Governor is, then you have yet to crawl out from under the rock you are sleeping under. There is “one” as yet, and hopefully to remain, candidate running on the Republican ticket for Governor of Virginia. So far, he is running unopposed, and will be declared the candidate at the Convention. That is a formality.”

Aaron Gardner Monday, March 16th at 1:25PM EDT (link)
“Is the Gov. an issue the party might want to focus on??? Also there is a difference between a candidate and nominee….you said candidate in your first post…so factually you are wrong and Scope was right in correcting you….there is one candidate right now…there is no nominee yet.

Oh and posting three replies, with 20 – 30 minutes between them and trying to provoke a fight is really a distraction…could you please quit that now.”

My post of 10:14 am was my first post. Heck it was lifted for another thread. I posted the same comment on two different discussions about Frederick. My second post was at thank you at 10:27AM EDT. My next post did not come until 12:18PM When I asked would it be appropriate for Chairman Frederick to get involved in the Governor’s race in January 2009. I know we are writing in March, but the e-mail was from January.

emgbane Monday, March 16th at 1:10PM EDT “Who is devise? It makes me sick to be called such a thing. Since you really have no idea who I am, I’m not going to defend myself other than to say you owe me an apology. I feel as though I have been called a vile, disgusting, degrading term. If you knew me, you would know you have done me, a grave dishonor.
I await your apology.”

I do not like being called a moderate or liberal from NOVA that completely divided the party. Nevertheless, I was joking. I thought it was funny in the ‘pass me the smelling salts’, or ‘chose your pistols duel and second,’ kind of way.

I thought your (Scope and Aaron Gardner) tone was unnecessary harsh and argumentative. I was trying to lighten the mood. I guess Ann Coulter was wrong when she said only liberals have no sense humor. Of course I will admit without ;o) and lol it’s hard to judge tone in comments.

Anyway, I’m not a troll, I am an actual conservative voter from northern Virginia. I care about the direction my state takes. I am sure you (Scope and Aaron Gardner), do also. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on the timing and necessity to remove the Chairman of the Virginia Republican party.

Take care.

Look forward to your scoop tomorrow!

btw, ever read Seize the Day by Saul Bellow?

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Perhaps I wrong. I was stating that McDonnell announce he was candidate for Governor. I said the party would select a nominee for Governor at the State convention. If I was not clear, I am sorry. I know there is difference between a candidate and a nominee. I started receiving e-mail from McDonnell as soon as he announced that he was candidate for Governor. I am really not sure how I could have phased it differently. I believe he is a candidate he has solicited me for donations and resigned as attorney general.

My main point was many Republican and independent voters will not be paying attention until after September so we will have plenty of time to attract those voters. I think back in January it would certainly be more appropriate for Chairman Frederick to be concerned with party building and the special elections we faced then the Governor’s race.

Oh and posting three replies, with 20 – 30 minutes between them and trying to provoke a fight is really a distraction…could you please quit that now.

“I see you as one of the type Eric described above, a moderate or liberal, from NOVA, that has completely divided the party.”

Who is devise? It makes me sick to be called such a thing. Since you really have no idea who I am, I’m not going to defend myself other than to say you owe me an apology. I feel as though I have been called a vile, disgusting, degrading term. If you knew me, you would know you have done me, a grave dishonor.

I await your apology.

The Party does not need to fight this race for seven months thats McDonnells job. McDonnell needs to raise money and raise his profile. The party needs to be on the ground and promoting him after September when most voters start paying attention.

The party needs to help educate voters on State Republican party issues so we can run strong all across the state, and fire up our base so we are energized going into November. I will not be spending all my time worrying about McDonnell I want all three statewide offices, a larger majority in the house of delegates, and victory in local elections not party infighting.

If there is a problem with Chairman Frederick, oust him when his term is up. This is an unnecessary distraction. If it essential to remove him now, make a better case.