“How do ya like me now?”


This past Wednesday night, RedState and Human Events held a party welcoming back Republicans to Congress. Our special guest and keynote speaker was Michael Steele.

In his opening remarks he mentioned RedState not endorsing him. He said he could get over it, but would say to me (calling me out by name) what Obama said after he secured the nomination — “How do ya like me now?”

We laughed. We made up. To answer his question, though, today I’m not sure.

This sort of thing with Rush Limbaugh plays right into concerns many of us had about Steele. He called Rush’s CPAC speech, which was very well received, “incendiary” and “ugly.”

What was so ugly about it? What was so incendiary?

Rush lit into Steele today on the radio. And he’s absolutely right on this. First, Steele made a novice mistake. Of course the media is going to try to start a fight. Look at what they tried to do between Rush and Cantor. Steele took the bait. He should not have.

Second, if Steele actually wants to support Obama, as Rush rightly pointed out, why the hell is he Chairman of the RNC instead of the DNC? And why should people give money to the RNC if they are going to be apologists?

This is not a fight between Rush Limbaugh and Michael Steele. This is a fight between Michael Steele’s mouth and his foot. Matt Lewis has some more thoughts.

By the way, if you are hesitant, given the present situation, of giving money to the RNC, might I suggest giving instead to the National Conservative Campaign Fund?


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Conservatives need to find our own party

TxCon (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:16PM EST (link)

It is obvious to me that the RNC does not “get it” and probably never will. The Establishment GOP doesn’t like conservatives. They never have and they never will. If they don’t want us…fine. We’ll see how long they last as a middle of the road party.

You know the old saying -

izoneguy (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:30PM EST (link)

Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

That is all Rush is saying.

And it does not matter if you have specific titles or placements in this war. This war is about US vs. THEM.

Rush, Steele and all of US need to get on the same bus or get thrown under THERE bus.

What is it going to be boys?

DO we mount up and charge up the hill?

Or surrender and take the punishment that will be dealt out?

Hmm, Hmm – I CAN’T HERE YOU!!!!!

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 

Door's over there, then.

Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:33PM EST (link)

Don’t like the current situation? Go find somebody who you do like and get him or her elected. Ride herd to keep said somebody on the straight and narrow.

But the only people that will be happy with your statement above are Democrats.

I doubt their quaking in their boots

TxCon (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:56PM EST (link)

right now over what the GOP and its leadership has become.

I repeat: the door's over there.

Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:54PM EST (link)

Seriously, we don’t have time for this. You don’t want to help the GOP and you don’t want to at least do no harm, so go.

Listen Moe

TxCon (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 9:33AM EST (link)

I have voted GOP since the first time I was able to vote (GHWB 1992). I have volunteered for GOP candidates in every election since then. So don’t tell me about not wanting to help the GOP. But can you tell me when the GOP establishment has been anything but resentful to conservatives. They will throw conservatives under the bus at any chance they get.

Bragging about your party loyalty...

Moe Lane (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 9:42AM EST (link)

…while at the same time talking about starting a new one impresses me not.

Go, stay, but make up your mind about what team you’re on.

I'm on the conservative team

TxCon (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 9:54AM EST (link)

The GOP needs to decide if it is on that team as well. Are your first loyalties to conservatism or to the GOP.

What has the GOP done to earn the trust of conservatives? I feel that is a fair question.

In other words, you don't want to be a Republican anymore.

Moe Lane (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 10:05AM EST (link)

Fine. Leave, then, if things are so intolerable.

Do you not see the problem

TxCon (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 10:20AM EST (link)

between the GOP and conservatives? I’m just wondering “how much is too much” for you. I know we have really no other place to go right now, but the GOP seems to takes conservatives for granted as much as the Dems take minorities for granted.

I’ve read many of your posts, so I know you are more eloquent than “fine, leave”.

It's tough love.

Moe Lane (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 10:40AM EST (link)

Look, there’s really only one answer to this problem: get conservatives elected, and keep them honest. Frex: today there’s a primary over in IL-05. It’s considered heavily Democratic, but there’s at least one solid conservative candidate – Rosanna Pulido – on the Republican side. If she wins the primary – and I think that she has a good shot – then there’s going to be a fascinating thing happening on RedState: a pro-amnesty immigration squish is going to endorse a Minuteman on the front page.

Because she gets that you have to go to war with the party you have, not the one you want.

Fair enough Moe,

TxCon (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 11:09AM EST (link)

but we also need to keep them conservative once the reach office. It seems that they know that they are poor in getting their message out, so they refuse to fight for conservative principles. Unanimous opposition to the stimulus was great, but where was that last year with TARP and the other bailouts? We could have won a lot more races had we fought last year. We fought Bill Clinton tooth and nail on every major issue, yet when George Bush proposed massive spending programs they didn’t even put up a fight.

Also, how does a party that is supposedly dominated by conservatives allow independents, democrats and “scared to death of Hillary” Republicans allow John McCain to be its nominee?

It’s all very frustrating to me because this party seems to have a full-blown case of the “Bob Michels”.

 

Fair enough Moe,

TxCon (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 11:09AM EST (link)

but we also need to keep them conservative once the reach office. It seems that they know that they are poor in getting their message out, so they refuse to fight for conservative principles. Unanimous opposition to the stimulus was great, but where was that last year with TARP and the other bailouts? We could have won a lot more races had we fought last year. We fought Bill Clinton tooth and nail on every major issue, yet when George Bush proposed massive spending programs they didn’t even put up a fight.

Also, how does a party that is supposedly dominated by conservatives allow independents, democrats and “scared to death of Hillary” Republicans allow John McCain to be its nominee?

It’s all very frustrating to me because this party seems to have a full-blown case of the “Bob Michels”.

 
 
 

Leave what?

RottDawg (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 11:06AM EST (link)

Moe you ask us to leave, but please clarify. Do you want us to leave the party or RS?

If you are talking the party, it’s obvious that many already have.

If you are referring to RS, some have done that too. After the primary was over last year, conservatives that did not approve of McCain had to tread very carefully here at RS to make sure we didn’t upset the cart.

So what I am asking you to clarify is:

In the about section up there, it says neither Republican nor Conservative, it says right of center. Which is it? My contention is that John McCain was not “right of center” or a conservative, he was however a Republican, and we were more or less told to get onbaord or leave.

In my opinion, Michael Steel should have apologized for letting them get away with saying the RNC convention attendees looked like nazi’s. Steele is and has harmed the (R) party more than he’s helped so far, and if smart would step aside and let Blackwell or Saul have the reigns.

Also, (ht EricBrockway) Rush Limbaugh is not our leader, he’s our spokesman!

Man is not free unless government is limited.
Ronald Reagan

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Likewise, if Steele apologizes

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 4:31PM EST (link)

The only ones happy will also be Dems. Didn’t Rahm Emmanuel just say that anyone who contradicts Rush ends up having to publicly beg forgiveness?

No fan of Rush, personally – his open-neck black shirt performance at CPAC probably helps Republicans as much as William F. Buckley’s black cowboy hat helped him.

Americans tend to root for the guy in the white hat …

and who pray tell Snarxon-Law is the guy in the white hat?...hmm

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:40PM EST (link)

how interesting all these new fresh names are that come in a beat up on Rush….your dear leader send you? Rush has more principles in his little fat finger than you or your democrat leaders have in their entire bodies.

WE don’t have to “like” Rush to know what he SAID was the truth…anyone who wants this Presidents policies to succeed is no CONSERVATIVE and needs to drop trough and move-on!

the guy in the white hat

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 4:50PM EST (link)

is the one who’s helping Americans find solutions to their problems. That’s my problem with Rush – he’s not trying to steer the car in the right direction – instead he’s hoping it crashes.

America is in that car.

I could not disagree more

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:56PM EST (link)

And to say that is to completely miss the point – whether on purpose or not.

 

again who is that person? you tell me why Rush is not steering the car...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:59PM EST (link)

in the right direction you tell me what he is saying that is not in keeping with the Conservative message…..you can’t because he says it better than anyone except Mark Levin! The Messiah is DRIVING that car you speak of and he is DRIVING it over a cliff and WE in this Party must stand firm at the cliff and toss that car back up on the ledge and KNOW THIS we will with Rush, Hannity, FOX , Jindal, Redstate, Palin, Levin, Newsbusters, Cantor, Michelle Malkin but mostly WE THE PEOPLE will STOP this TRAVESTY of loser that has been elected WE WILL send him home to the pit of arm he came from because, WE have the voices WE have the means and WE WILL PREVAIL!

White Hat = Cantor

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 5:14PM EST (link)

“What we need to do is we need to put forth solutions to the problems that real families are facing today” – Eric Cantor

Real solutions for real problems for real American families.

I know we’re all in a tizzy about ‘Socialism’, but stale labels won’t solve America’s problems – fresh thinking will.

My point: Conservatives need to beat Obama with better solutions. Rush’s “hope he fails” rhetoric reminds me of Tonya Harding’s ‘solution’ to Nancy Kerrigan’s superior game.

Tonya Harding = Black Hat = Despised by America

Oh please it's going to take more than...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:23PM EST (link)

just solutions WE HAVE THOSE…we cannot get anyone to listen when put in that NEWTONE….I believe if you asked President Bush he would tell you that!

WE need people like Rush to get people’s attention….good, bad, or ugly…if they aint’ listening then what you are saying is NOT being heard!…and while Cantor is a good start he did vote for the 700Billion under Bush so again WE have those who talk one way and vote another….now he has been on message since The Messiah has been elected but he needed to be on message with McCain back in September!

If you are NOT walking your talk YOU are NOTHING!

If the talk you're walking is

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 6:04PM EST (link)

“Country First”, then hoping for Obama to fail instead of saying “Here’s a better plan, and here’s why …” leaves us back at Tonya Harding talking Olympic glory.

Americans love America first, political ideologies second. Rush going ‘ugly’ just makes Obama look like the better American, IMHO.

The One does NOT equal America and that my friend is why you...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:24PM EST (link)

But he does equal POTUS

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 6:54PM EST (link)

and he’s got the wheel. If we want a say in where the car’s going, we need to be constructive, creative and convincing.

Wanting it to crash makes us America’s enemy, and I refuse to be America’s enemy.

Rush makes Conservatives look bad.

NO you make conservative look bad...Rush gets the conservatives message out!..nt

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:58PM EST (link)

I suspect there is nothing conservative about you or others who have suddenly flocked to this site since Obamessiah has put out the word to isolate him!

Rest assured that the Imitatiion Christ choosing to do battle with Rush belittles him and only fires up the base OBTW it increases Rush’s numbers because everyone wants to know why the idiot in chief is talking about him!

 

Too bad 0bama's the captain of the Titanic...

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:06PM EST (link)

and not just an arrogant, but talented skater like Kerrigan.

Am I un-American for hoping 0bama fails in his reckless aspirations? I don’t think so. Because we know what happened to the Titanic when its captain succeeded in pushing the throttle to full steam ahead.

George, I believe this one is more appropriate....

olsmithie (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 11:51AM EST (link)
 

That's because you're confusing America with the presidency

Steph C (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:07PM EST (link)

America is bigger than its president. Presidents come and presidents go but America is America and the only country in the world like her through presidents who are abject failures or rousing successes.

In spite of the president being the most visible representative of America, America continues on and it’s more conservative than most realize because the political babblers have made ideological chisms more important than a successful country.

If Obama has to be an abject failure to preserve the America in which I grew up, then so be it. That is entirely up to him and his choices, none of which inspires any confidence that he loves America. If he loves his power more than this country, he deserves to be a failure.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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I still disagree ...

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 7:26PM EST (link)

Getting Obama to trip doesn’t make us better ‘skaters’. Wishing for our opponent to fall rather than for us to rise just makes us look small-minded, short-sighted and weak, like Tonya Harding.

Call me competitive – I want to win the game by winning, not by the other team losing.

America Conservatives deserve a better spokesman than Rush.

blechh! and of course YOU disagree!..

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:31PM EST (link)

“I want to win not by the other team losing” where do you come up with that pathetic sounding line? YOU WIN BY WINNING OBTW when you WIN they LOSE! it’s the way it works!

I find it interesting that you signed up over 8 months ago and THIS is the diary where you make a stand for your Messiah? there were such better opprotunities than this!

Is Eric Cantor the Messiah?

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 8:48PM EST (link)

Rush sure ain’t …

 
 

If somebody wins somebody loses.

Steph C (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:33PM EST (link)

This is not a win-win situation. In fact, win-win is a myth; pure fantasy to seduce people into giving up their principles and beliefs in favor of some personal gain.

You can disagree if you want to. Doesn’t hurt my feelings.

However, you have to ask yourself what kind of America you want and what you’re willing to do to obtain it. Then realize those who want something different will be working just as hard to make sure you fail.

In the end, somebody loses. I don’t want that somebody to be the conservatives who made this country great.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

or it could be lose-lose

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 8:46PM EST (link)

If Conservatives won’t fix America’s problems, and Obama can’t fix them, then America’s problems don’t get fixed.

If the number one principle is doing what’s best for America, then I say FIX ITS PROBLEMS.

If one doctor is treating me and another doctor disagrees with the diagnosis, I’d want him to offer a better cure instead of wishing I die to prove his point.

Melodrama at its best.

Steph C (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 9:15PM EST (link)

Nobody said they wanted Obama to die.

On top of that, the problems in this country would get fixed better if government would just get out of the way. Instead, you’ve got a bunch of legislators trying to do business when their expertise is supposed to be laws. You have a bunch of legislators guiding the economy when none of them have the faintest idea what makes the economy go. And like any lawyer they make sure they get their cut of any money coming in, before the client sees one penny.

To use your doctor analogy, would you want a gardener performing surgery on you? Maybe he would use his hedge shears or weedeater to perform it. If not, then why in the world would you expect a lawyer who hardly practiced law before making them in charge of the economy? Furthermore, a lawyer who has never produced one thing in his life but a good campaign? Heck, he didn’t even write his own autobiographies, making them lies, too, because the definition of autobiography includes the word self written.

Be that as it may, if you think you’re too dumb to manage your own life go right ahead and put all your faith in the government. I prefer not to debase myself to that level.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

 
 
 

Competitions are won by scoring more points than the other team

JSobieski (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 9:25PM EST (link)

That usually involves defense (tripping them up) and offense.

Your version of a an all-offense no defense basketball game is why the NBA West had such a dry spell in the 90s.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 

If We succeed...the one fails...what's so hard to understand about that? nt

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 9:33PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

Allowing Obama to drive the car to his destination is being America's enemy!

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 9:28PM EST (link)

to wish it to crash is the epitome of patriotism.

Wanting Obama to fail isn’t the same as wanting America to fail…I would say wanting Obama to succeed is to want the death of America…what’s so hard to understand about that?

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

Rush has been, and is, making better alternative...

Matt Genk (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:34PM EST (link)

…solutions. They just happen to be the “old” proven methods of tax cuts across the board. We conservatives need to repackage our brand and move out to organize and mobilize for 2010 and 2012.

Of course we want Obama to fail, no one on the right should wish his policies to succeed. But we don’t have to “hope” that Obama’s policies will because they will fail in time. We have to point out the failures as they happen. No one can do this better than Rush Limbaugh. We are dealing with a Socialist and we might as well call em as we see em.

“Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” – George Orwell, Politics and the English Language, 1946

 

Obviously you don't listen to Rush enough to know what you're talking about

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:39PM EST (link)

and you’re playing sucker for the so called MSM.

Rush has stated repeatedly that he believes Obama is doing the wrong thing…and of course he wants Obama’s policies to fail if he believes thay’re wrong for the country…don’t you?

He’s also pointed to numerous instances where Leftists and Democrat politicians made similar statements about the Iraq war and the WOT…

Of course it’s not a big deal to the people pounding Rush for what he said to hear some Dummycrat hoping GW Bush fails and hoping America loses a war in Iraq .

But here you are…and Michael Steele taking the bait of the lapdog media and getting the squishes in our party to attack the Conservatives because we’re such an embarrassment…I don’t get it!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

No I reject that false dichotomy

kyle8 (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:24PM EST (link)

there is something in between New Tone of GW Bush, and the increasingly shrill voice of some others in the movement.

It is not an either/ or situation. Nor do we need to draw unwarranted attention to get an audience. As the economy continues to tank people will start looking for alternatives.

I fear that all we might be able to offer them is the same sort of hyper-partisan bickering they have been hearing since the Clinton administration and the they will tune out.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

well Kyle that "hyperpartisan" bickering during Clinton...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:26PM EST (link)

GOT US THE CONGRESS and that is where the POWER is! not in the Presidency!

 

The shrill voice of Rush saying that he is a conservative because: We Love People

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:30PM EST (link)

and so therefore, we want policies that would hurt people, to fail.

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 

The shrill voice of Rush saying that he is a conservative because: We Love People

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:30PM EST (link)

and so therefore, we want policies that would hurt people, to fail.

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 

amen, it was shrill of Steele to call Rush's words ugly and now he apologizes for an obvious vile act - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:41PM EST (link)

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 

Hyperpartisan bickering?

Steph C (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:43PM EST (link)

Who gave it that aura? Who named it such? Why does advancing a conservative message and policies have to result in hyperpartisan?

I see a Democrat majority Congress who defines bipartisan as “our way or the highway” and you’re worried about the hyperpartisan label?

They can call it whatever they want and most likely will. If hyperpartisan bickering no longer works for them, they’ll find another nasty name to call it, like schoolyard bullies, especially the ones who whine when their bullying doesn’t have the desired effects.

And when they do, say, “So what? If you stop bickering with me and agree to real compromise then there won’t be bickering. But, if you want it all your way or no way then expect the bickering to continue.”

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

 
 
 

If better solutions means looking to government

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:37PM EST (link)

for answers then you’re dead wrong. and hoping Obama fails at doing the wrong thing is nothing to be ashamed of…we should want him to fail because everything he is doing is wrong for this country.

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

No, America is on a plane that BHO and his merry pranksters

Achance (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:28PM EST (link)

have highjacked. The squishy middle of America that bought off on hopey-changey weren’t planning to go to Cuba, so I don’t feel any obligation to help a bunch of communists relive the Venceramos Brigade days. So, you’re either a very foolish young government school graduate who really doesn’t understand what’s at stake here or you’re simply trolling. The quality of your responses will determine that.

In Vino Veritas

 

lunacy

streiff (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:36PM EST (link)

you could only say that if you’ve never listened to him. His point is that Obama’s direction is what will wreck the country. If you can’t agree with that you are probably posting at the wrong place.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

 
 

But Jaded...having principles mean you are the problem...don't you get it?

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:26PM EST (link)

It’s not about principles…it’s about winning at all costs and those pesky principles of yours just get’s in the way!

{/snark}

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

umm ... Buckley .. Buchanan ... whatever ...

Snarxons_Law Monday, March 2nd at 4:43PM EST (link)

senior moment
; )

I call

The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 12:15PM EST (link)

Moby-Troll hybrid! (apparently Saruman has been casting vile spells again).

You were walking a real fine line there for a bit, smelled like troll, acting like a moby but close enough to RINO that I wasn’t sure.

But anybody who says “Buckley .. Buchanan … whatever …” isn’t even a RINO.

I happen to have read both men and respect a lot of what Pat wrote before he ran for office (and fell off the edge of sanity). Nobody who is even passingly familiar with the two men could make that statement. And begging off as ‘senior moment’ is even worse.

 
 

Steele vs. Limbaugh doesn't interest me.

Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:02PM EST (link)

Making sure that Tedisco wins CA-20 interests me. Getting that war veteran running in IL-11 against Halvorson next year interests me. Trying to figure out if there’s anything that we can do for Rosanna Pulido in IL-05 at this point (probably not, but you never know) interests me.

Moe Tedisco is NY-20 I thought??...nt

Attack Mode (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:14PM EST (link)

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

D'Oh! He is; I had California in my head from something else.

Moe Lane (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:19PM EST (link)
 

they are not mutually edxclusive by a long shot, but don't worry

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:32PM EST (link)

us non-Moe’s that care can carry the debate and all the individuals in states will benefit from a GOP that no longer fears Obama and the MSM. We saw what electing Repubs that were cared of the PC police did for us from 2001-2006.

Lets fix the basic problem. Rush is right.

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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 

I'm working even closer to home.

NightTwister (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:56PM EST (link)

I’m trying to help get two really good conservatives elected to City Council. If we can get them both, the Council will take a serious turn to the right.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

You'll be in my prayers.

Steph C (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:15PM EST (link)

Hoping and wishing for your success.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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You'll be in my prayers.

Steph C (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:15PM EST (link)

Hoping and wishing for your success.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Maybe it's time for this

NickDeringer (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:02PM EST (link)
 
 

The Establishment GOP doesn't like conservatives -- that's why we have to enter the party and outnumber them

ColdWarrior (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:21PM EST (link)

TxCon, I find it rather curious that, for example, here in AZ, the web sites of the both my county GOP organization, and the state GOP, do not highlight the difference between Republicans and Dems nor implore people to join the party and become precinct committeemen. When I inquired why, a long time county activist basically explained that the moderate factions within the party do not want more committeemen in the party because . . . all the newbies might trend conservative and then those in the leadership, who are moderate, will lose their positions during the next party leadership election cycle. That makes perfect sense, and confirms your observations. I see the solution differently — rather than bolting from the party, I think conservatives in the party ranks should endeavor to get more conservatives to join the party and outnumber the moderates. We don’t have to even necessarily outnumber them, as I find some people can’t quite accept the label “conservative” for themselves but can be persuaded sometimes to accept conservative outlook on issues. But, you’re right, without conservatives the Republican party will fail — not something that would be good for the country, to state the obvious.

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Forgot one thing re the 2004 Party Platform

ColdWarrior (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:29PM EST (link)

The closest the Arizona Republican Party web site comes to letting visitors know what the Party stands for, that I could find, was a link to the national party Party Platform — the 2004, not the 2008, Party Platform! Hello???? I’m not making this up:

http://www.azgop.org/inner.asp?z=1

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Isn't it because the AZ GOP

Rapunzel46 Monday, March 2nd at 4:59PM EST (link)

is nothing more than an arm of the States Chamber of Commerce? There was a very interesting article on McCain in Time a while back and it pointed out the reason he keeps running unopposed here is his son worked for the CoC and they pretty much told the GOP what to do, I assume that even though his son has left the Chamber their hold over the GOP has not changed… in fact, I’m certain they are one of the main reasons McCain was so adamant about the amnesty bill last year.

McCain and the AZ Chamber of Commerce

ColdWarrior (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:17PM EST (link)

You could be right. I’m relatively new to AZ and the party politics here. You could be right about the Chamber’s impact on McCain (and Kyl, for that matter) on the Shamnesty bill — I had donated to Kyl and after his Shamnesty bill performance I demanded he give me back the donation. He did.

Gee, the 2004 Republican Party Platform said:

We oppose amnesty because it would have the effect of encouraging illegal immigration and would give an unfair advantage to those who have broken our laws. (Page 79.)

Yet McCain and Kyl championed “comprehensive immigration reform,” aka amnesty. Disgusting.

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I was never able to figure out

Rapunzel46 Monday, March 2nd at 6:15PM EST (link)

why McCain always ran unopposed until I read the article. I found it very interesting that McCain’s son worked for the AZ chamber until recently. I know people who went on various conservative sites trying to shut down anti-amnest conversation worked for or were affiliated with various chambers… seems to me this is a key to some of our problems.

 
 
 
 
 

I don't like ya now Mr. Steele anymore than I liked you before the RNC elections

Scope (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:34PM EST (link)

Because Mr. Steele, you are proving to be the moderate that so many here at Redstate feared. In addition, as you sit around worrying more about your face time on TV, and then talking trash, the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty has more organization, money and members than the RNC apparently has. I say apparently because their is no membership info on any RNC sites that I have found. Ron freakin’ Paul and his radical supporters have a better organization already going, and they have no more intention in supporting the Republican party than the man in the moon. In fact, they are infiltrating the Republican party websites in order to convince the Conservatives to come with them, which is even more so fracturing the Republican party.

Mr. Steele, who are you, what are you promoting, what are your goals for the Republican party, do you have any other plans other than a tech angle, what are you doing to gain a grassroots effort with boots on the ground, and most importantly WHY DID YOU MAKE SUCH IRRESPONSIBLE REMARKS ABOUT RUSH LIMBAUGH? According to Rush today, he backed you when you were in some contentious campaigns, and supported you with airtime which Rush rarely does. I don’t question the Redstaters who for the most part knew what to expect from you, but, I do question if you really did cut some kind of backroom deal with the 168 who voted for you, and not on the first ballot.

What is the Republican party these days?

mallcopsaysno Monday, March 2nd at 4:00PM EST (link)

Is it essentially neo-conservative, preemptive war and whatnot? Is it essentially socially conservative, end abortion on demand, protect marriage? Is it essentially pro-freedom, low/no taxes, return to the gold standard? Is it merely a foil for socialism and the Democratic party as a whole?

One thing it definitely is is fractured. Before Michael Steele starts his outreach and hiphopification of the Republican brand, he maybe should spend a little time figuring out what exactly he’s selling.

Sorry mallcopsaysno, I don't wear a tin hat

Scope (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:16PM EST (link)

Some people do, some people don't...

mallcopsaysno Monday, March 2nd at 4:49PM EST (link)

And then there some people that only see tin hats elsewhere while ignoring their own 10 gallon constructions. There are a lot of people pulling the Republican party a lot of different directions and it’s not hard to find fault lines if you look. I don’t know how Michael Steele can go out an fund raise given the current circumstances. It’s going to be a challenge.

 
 
 
 

Steele made a novice mistake...

olsmithie (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:39PM EST (link)

If he continues to make “novice” mistakes, then we are hurting.
If he learns from the mistake, then good for him, (and us!)

If he truly wants Obama’s Marxist plan to succeed, we have the wrong man in this lead position.

If he continues to attack the leading conservative in country, we have the wrong man in this lead position.

If he truly believes the comments he made, we have the wrong man in this lead position, and he has been fooling us in a masterful fashion.

If he does not truly believe the comments he made, then I don’t know whether to believe him when he makes the next comment!?

The media baited him and he fell headfirst for it.

Gov. Steele, you are better than that. Please show us what you are made of!

REgards

Has the GOP been conditioned to jump at every perceived PC statement made by anyone?

woodsman (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:02PM EST (link)

“The media baited him and he fell headfirst for it. ”

I watched most of the Rush talk (missed the first part) and I did not hear anything that sounded like we should apologize for. Not only is the GOP playing the liberals tune, they are beginning to drink the kool-aid, if they continue to feel the need to apologize for every statement made they raise a ruckus over.

If we can’t tell them to stuff it and enjoy the ride, then how will we come out on top of a real fight?

“The media baited him (Steele) and he fell headfirst for it. ”

olsmithie (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 11:33AM EST (link)

Just to be clear,
Steele was the only one owing apologies. And that to Rush.
If Steele had displayed any character on the ughley show, there would have been no condemnation, just joy. He did not, however.
(or did I miss your point?, This too is possible.)

So far as CPAC, Rush hit an outstanding home run with bases loaded!

Regards

We agree...

woodsman (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:43PM EST (link)

Steele should have shot back he wholeheartedly agreed. From my perspective the El Rushbo speech was a thing of beauty and could have been extended another hour or so.

That was the best TV I have seen since the Gipper was on the tube (or Fred Thompson’s No Hands show in the debates!).

My distaste for any GOP member who feels the need to instantly apologize over some MSM instigated remark or twisting of words or intent (or taken out of context) is reaching new levels everyday. Instead of falling for it headfirst, Michael Steele should have planted a foot up someone’s rear. I had expected better from him.

We need to start making the liberals own this mess, instead of apologizing…

 
 
 
 

Distinction between RNC and Republican Party

katesmith (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:39PM EST (link)

Not wishing to propel word games, but Rush pointed out to Steele he’s the head of the RNC not the Repub. Party. Suggested he get to work improving the primaries system. Hearing the audio of the rappers and Mr. Steele, wherein he allowed the rappers to characterize the look of the last Republican Convention as a bunch of Nazis was breathtaking. If Steele can’t even stand up to being called a Nazi on national television, he has no business being head of anything. P.S. Rush said he himself isn’t head of the party, doesn’t want to be, and would be embarrassed to be.

Republican Leadership

Scope (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:54PM EST (link)

I understand your point katesmith, but, I think many look at the RNC as the voice of the Republican Party. Before the RNC Chair. elections, there was a tremendous amount of angst because there were no apparent Republican Leaders. I hoped that the new RNC Chair would take on that leadership position, and, for me and so many, it was critical that we get the right person for that position. I hope Steele learns from his bad judgement in making the Limbaugh statements, comes out publicly appologizes for saying what he did, and then defines exactly what he has in mind for the party. Is he going to take middle of the road positions on issues, is he going to continue on a path of being Politically Correct, to our dteriment, and, now it is very important that he denounce Obamas Socialist agenda in a forceful manner. If he remains quiet on all this, his support will only continue to deteriorate.

 
 

Understand it.. but don't accept it....

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:57PM EST (link)

As I stated in Hogan’s Front Page “Of course we want Obama to Fail” Diary (here) I understand some of the moderation, and frankly their were several Diaries here before (if we could see a list of all Diary titles from December and January you’d see them) with the same desire to Moderate Tone… understandable from the Directors not wanting to turn this into the HuffPoo or DailyKooks, but… you know….. Nice to see more people “getting it” and deciding to climb aboard now that it has become a bandwagon….

I think that Mr. Steele will come around …. as one who supported him for the post from the start, I have sent along my “concerns” about his position now…. As I’d been on the (on record here -RS:) I want 0blahblah to fail since before the Inauguration over the “give him a chance” line.

And don’t forget to stop by Erick’s other FP Save The Country By Helping Obama Fail item to sign up for the RedState Army if you haven’t already.

As for RS moderation at first… Again, I understand the concern over tone… Nice to see most have found the nuance of the “Fail” message they can embrace….

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 

Actually Mr Steele, the jury is still out

JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:58PM EST (link)

You go elected, yes. But that’s just the beginning of the journey.

Now let’s see you do something. So far, I haven’t seen much.

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson

 

I do not contribute to the RNC any longer.

Old_Crow (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 3:59PM EST (link)

I choose to support individual conservative candidates. The RNC is quickly becoming irrelevant. They are stuck in the 1970′s both technically, and message wise and refuse to bend their stiff necks. Time for them to change or drift off into the political history books.

BTW, Steele looks like a mistake. I am NOT impressed so far. Obama lite is will not win elections.

“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison

 

GOP convention 'looked like Nazi Germany'

izoneguy (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:00PM EST (link)

I did not see the CNN clip of Hugley & Steele but
if someone would have told me that the “GOP convention ‘looked like Nazi Germany’” – I would have said hey wait a minute – what are you talking about?
How come punks like Hugley can get on TV and say crap like this?
The dems are trying like hell to turn the US into Cuba on steroids and
they say crap like this???
These people are not Americans.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/DL_Hughley_GOP_convention_looked_like_0302.html

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

as an American of German heritage....

JLenardDetroit (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:11PM EST (link)

I dare say to those fools it was the other Party that was willing to follow an untried (zero experience) leader that can give a good speech onto the road to ruin…. Albert Spear would be proud of the scenery and settings by which they lured the brainless to the O-Rallies to cheer the Death of America in regard to its founding….

Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”


(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 

Wow, and they said Palin didn't handle the media well

NickDeringer (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:33PM EST (link)

Steele should be smarter than to fall for MSM entrapment like this. He has to realize that he’s walking through a mine field when he goes on talk show runs by liberals.

 
 

My email to the RNC

Kentucky Scott (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:05PM EST (link)

I just sent this email to the RNC after spending 20 minutes on the phone with them … they tried to send me to voice twice before they finally would listen.

Dear Chairman Steele,

I spent 20 minutes chewing the ear off a nice lady in your office. She was kind enough to let me vent. I can’t believe that you would be so short sighted to attack the only person leading the conservative message in this country. I hope this was a rookie mistake but only how you respond to this will show if you understand what you are up against.

Conservatives in this country are fed up with the Republican party. The party absolute blew it in the last four years. Any vestige of believing Republicans acting as Democrat-lite will win elections should have been obliterated after McCain. We are desperate for someone in the Republican leadership to get it and start acting like they understand. This means vocal, passionate, loud and repeated opposition to the Democrats attempt to eliminate Liberty and Capitalism in this country. There is not an in-between position you can take … you either make the party stand for something or we don’t need the party anymore. Conservatives will find a new messenger for our principles. If you want to ignite the passion in the country, you can do three things.

1. Announce that the Republican party is committed to Capitalism, Free Markets, Limited Government and Liberty without exception. There are no deviations from these principles and the Party does not want anyone representing them who are not committed to these ideas. The Republican Party remains in permanent and irresolute opposition to President Obama and the Democrat party’s attempt to expand the power of government and bring socialism to our economy … there will be no compromise on this.

2. Announce that you are actively seeking primary candidates for Senator Specter in 2010 and Senators Snowe and Collins in the future. Invite them to caucus with the Democrats. Explain that the Republican Party would rather have 38 Senators of principle than an extra three who don’t support our principles. Devon Generally announced in Pennsylvania today. I hope you are working to know him and what he stands for. Perhaps citizen legislators is what the Party needs … the professionals have sure ruined things lately. Announce that every race in 2010 will include a conservative candidate of principle representing the Republican party .. even if it is not today’s incumbent.

3. Announce your intention to attend and speak at every Tea Party that is being organized across the country. Bring attention to outrage from millions of Americans and tap into this energy for the future of the Party. March 15 at 3 pm in Cincinnati … I will see you there.

If you do this, you will have so much support and money flowing to you that you will not be able to spend it all. I only gave to Fred Thompson last year but will write a check to the RNC as soon put this into practice. You ran for RNC Chairman to make a difference … if you are the leader you claim to be now is the time to lead. Half measures and politically correct talk will not work. Get mad, get passionate and lead the party to reclaim our country …otherwise get out of the way.

Sincerely,

Scott Mustian

I like it -nt

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:52PM EST (link)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

55555

Wayne (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:06PM EST (link)

and , please let us know if he responds and how he does?

“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF

 

Good email

Rapunzel46 Monday, March 2nd at 6:19PM EST (link)

Mine wasn’t as succinct or as nice.

 

One of the better ones I've seen

Bill S (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:55PM EST (link)

Well done. You didn’t get shrill, you asked for specific actions that are well within reason. And you didn’t threaten to take your ball and go home.

Good.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

I like it, too - it'll never happen

peg_c (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:47PM EST (link)

I believe we saw the real Steele today, unfortunately. Apparently a sheep in wolf’s clothing.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

 
 

Really?

PaladinLostHour (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:11PM EST (link)

Steele’s ‘rookie mistake’ was against the formidable forensic talents of…DL Hughley, the Jimmy JJ Walker of the 1990s.

I’m not buying that this was a lapse. I think it showcased an essential timidity on the part of Steele, particularly when faced with defending a white man who has made controversial statements about black men (remember Donovan McNab).

If that is his button – if Steele is going to pull punches to avoid reruns of the incident where Democratic provocateurs tossed oreo cookies at him – then we’re scr*wed.

Excellent point

Jack_Savage (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:23PM EST (link)

If he can’t win a debate against that one note moron, he hasn’t got a chance of making our case before the American people.

 
 

Steele must go

unfatmatt Monday, March 2nd at 4:25PM EST (link)

Why would anyone who is looking for support attack the most popular and most beloved character of that party? At best he’s incompetent, at worst he’s greedy and stupid and thinks he can run the party while dividing it from Rush Limbaugh. Steele should have told the MSM that he loved Rush Limbaugh instead of separating himself from the “de facto leader of the Republican Party”.

 

Steele lost me as a supporter...

vinnster2 Monday, March 2nd at 4:28PM EST (link)

Sorry, but he sounds like “same-o-same-o”. RUSH articulates conservatism better than anyone. And so-called conservative leader who runs from RUSH’s positions is running from conservatism…

I am sorry to say as each day passes I don’t think the RNC idiots have a clue…they lost for becoming moderates now as soon as RUSH states the obvious and some MSM Liberal brings it up the cowards run for cover…we need a new party…moderate, limp-wristed sissies need not apply.

John Galt is alive and well.

Steele lost me when...

RottDawg (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:27PM EST (link)

he appeared to defend Farrakhan… about the 5:00 minute mark

Man is not free unless government is limited.
Ronald Reagan

 
 

Steele probably should just go.

spainishirish (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:50PM EST (link)

Without gettting into personalities, if the RNC chair cannot agree that Obama’s embrace of a mixed economy is counter to what the GOP is, he doesn’t understand the party very well. If he is so weak he will carry water for the other side, he cannot deliver victories. Either way, it probably would serve both Steele and the RNC well to have a quiet change in management.

 

Steele has just made me a tad more jaded....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 4:52PM EST (link)

As a supporter of his I have to say he made this same “mistake” while running for RNC head by throwing out comments on color with regards to the Republican Party…I personally as an American Indian, way longer oppressed than blacks find the whole situation DISGUSTING!

I had hoped he was more developed emotionally to see that this country while having made mistakes in the past has grown and leveled the playing field for everyone and that Republicans were a major reason for that. I had hoped that he could show the black community how the Democrat party keeps them in a subservient role and kills their chances of “having it all”. I had hoped that Mr Steele was a mature man who could see through the bias of not only the Democrats but the pravda media that supports them….I WAS WRONG!

Which just goes to show HOPE does make something so!

that should be "does not make something so"..nt

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:01PM EST (link)
 

Playing into the Democrats hands

smitch61 Monday, March 2nd at 5:02PM EST (link)

The GOP is a joke. Unfortunate for the rest of us as they are all we have to fight for us. The Democratic party and the media have defined the party for years, and the GOP have allowed it to occur. Until they are able to define themselves we are at their mercy. Even Mr. Steele does not agree with Rush, could he just have stated he is a conservative voice within the party? Does the new chairman realize how upset most of us are with the Obama socialist policies?

 

I guess we should have known

Rapunzel46 Monday, March 2nd at 5:06PM EST (link)

When David Frum was supporting Steele so hard on his new site that Steele was not going to be a voice for conservative principles. Sadly on Saturday, Steele proved he is not going to be a voice for conservative principles. In addition to his comments to DL Hugley, I was disappointed to see him in attendence at the black convention this weekend where the conversation was all about Pell Grants and how the white man has held the black man down…. what did he think he would advance in that room that he spent his time there? and… no, Mr. Steele you are not the head of the GOP, as Rush reminded you today — you are the leader of the RNC and it is time to get off TV and do something constructive for the RNC.

Good point on the Frum thing

peg_c (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:51PM EST (link)

He can’t be trusted, period. I’d forgotten about that.

Anyone on “our side” who badmouths Sarah Palin can’t be trusted, period, exclamation point, obscenity.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

I pointed that out

Rapunzel46 Monday, March 2nd at 10:35PM EST (link)

In a post to Frums column on Limbaugh today. I was expecting exactly what he posted and said so along with I expected it because of the attack Frum made from his site last month against Palin.

 
 
 

Tea Parties want little to do with RNC

MUTNODJMET (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:08PM EST (link)

I have to say that the people who are organizing the Tea Party revolts want little to do with the GOP: They are part of the problem. That Steele could dismiss as “Ugly” the speech that Rush gave highlights why the RNC is not getting donations or support from grassroots efforts. I suspect Steele will have a retraction and clarification later.

http://amfreenet.com/2009/03/what-were-you-thinking-mr-steele/

 

Scott!

smitch61 Monday, March 2nd at 5:10PM EST (link)

Perfect, you said that brilliantly, I would like to be informed if you receive a response.

will let you know of response

Kentucky Scott (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:44PM EST (link)

Only got the automated email response so far. I have to admit the young staffer liked everything I said … told me I could have talked with Steele if he were there. Not sure if that is true but would nice to think it was possible.

 
 

Just spoke with RNC guy

David_Rasbold (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 5:53PM EST (link)

… in the finance department in Washington. He couldn’t have been nicer, but the poor fella was not well equipped to reply to my concerns.

Why did I call him, well, he was the only one I could get through to. Member services is either so inundated or they are simply ignoring phone calls. I was calling to inform them to remove me from all mailing lists. I will not be giving to the RNC this year, unless they get their act together (message, plan, etc.)

He said that the offices have just been flooded with calls. He even asked if I was a “Rush” listener. I said that it shouldn’t matter if I was or not (I am, of course), but that I was actually sparked by Cantor’s comments and were ultimately called to action as a result of Steele’s comments and failure to push back on Hughley (what does it say about our chairman if he can’t even battle DL well).

While I ranted a bit, I kept it to dull roar and like I said the man couldn’t have been nicer. After all, it’s not his fault. Unfortunately, he wasn’t equipped with the best of talking points and started down the path of the party is trying to contrast and get a message of strong defense and limited government out. And that it’s going to take time, but the party leadership is finding their voice in crafting the new republican message… I stopped him there.

I reminded him that what the RNC needs is to re-find not redefine. That the path to victory is there in plain sight. But if the party is going to eschew conservatives in favor of some kind of new inclusiveness get ready to be in the wilderness for much longer.

There was much more I did say, and in the end (although I’m cynical anything results from it) he’s going to “deliver my message” to leadership. I thanked him for his time and he’s removed me from their mailing list (thank God no more fundraising letters).

I have little hope for the RNC, and I believe that only citizen leadership at this point can take back this party. The people currently in charge only have so much backbone and passion to be the kind of leaders we need them to be.

God bless them, but they’re just too weak and beholden to something other than us, the grassroots, and the party base.

Can the RNC afford to lose people like me: young, involved, and tech-friendly? Guess so.

Yes, David

zeebeach Monday, March 2nd at 6:52PM EST (link)

Everything you’ve said is so true. We need to get our act together now, not later. Too much is at stake. Rush is the only “leader” I can see. Someone will emerge, I’m sure. Sad that the RNC is turning out to be such a bust.

 

You are probably right

Kentucky Scott (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:57PM EST (link)

David,

I made the same call … twice they tried to send me to a voice mail before a real person stayed on the line.. See the follow up letter above.

The young lady was nice and listened to me without critique. She admitted that calls were coming in all day and I was one of the more polite … profanity is not my thing.

I really don’t think the RNC or for that matter many of the “party people” understand what they are facing. We may not like the results but the Libs took over the Dems after 2004 and look where they are today. They did not do it by finding ways to compromise with Republican … they forced the party to their agenda without exception.

Either the Republican party leaders starts listening to the conservative base or they are going to be left behind. There is no alternative but to give the American people a message that can be understood and believed… not a focus group tested bunch of pablum to appeal to imaginary voting segments.

Scott

You're right...

David_Rasbold (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:17PM EST (link)

,,, but who’s going to be the insurgents that push/uncover the conservative principles perculating below? I have to think it’s going to come from the grassroots and state organizations. Clearly the top of the organization is still too full of dead weight or those unwilling to unabashedly stand for conservative ideas.

If we don’t get our act together we’ll lose out on 2010, but it could be a great opportunity during which we field and elect truly conservative folks, thereby showing the republican establishmet the path. It could be the springboard to finally ousting much of the squishy moderate leadership out completely.

Although, I’d rather not wait that long and get that out of the way now.

 
 
 

Steele to Rush: I'm Sorry

shelbysbest Monday, March 2nd at 6:32PM EST (link)

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19517.html

Excerpt:

“Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele says he has reached out to Rush Limbaugh to tell him he meant no offense when he referred to the popular conservative radio host as an “entertainer” whose show can be “incendiary.”

“My intent was not to go after Rush – I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh,” Steele said in a telephone interview. “I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. … There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership.”

“I went back at that tape and I realized words that I said weren’t what I was thinking,” Steele said. “It was one of those things where I thinking I was saying one thing, and it came out differently. What I was trying to say was a lot of people … want to make Rush the scapegoat, the bogeyman, and he’s not.”

“I’m not going to engage these guys and sit back and provide them the popcorn for a fight between me and Rush Limbaugh,” Steele added. “No such thing is going to happen. … I wasn’t trying to slam him or anything.”

I just told Pilgrin offline that Steele would apologize!!!!!!!! and he did! rightly so- Rush and his defenders were right - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:35PM EST (link)

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Rush is right that Steele is off to a rocky start

pilgrim (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:36PM EST (link)

I look at what happened Saturday on the DL Hughley CNN show a little differently than some do here. I would compare it to a politician like Alphonse D’Amato appearing on the Don Imus Show. They appear on a show like this and in acting like they are so hip and cool they end up saying and doing something that is wrong and stupid.

It is a good thing that Steele has apologized, and I do hope that he can improve on doing some good as RNC Chairman.


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Steele is now forgiven but notice that even Steele was too ashamed to repeat the word "ugly" - why?

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:37PM EST (link)

because that word is beyond the pale. There is justification for being incindiary and its import can be vague, but the word UGLY is ugly.

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Steele is a moron...

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:50PM EST (link)

Oh, sorry, I was just being inarticulate. What I was trying to say was that a lot of people think that what Steele says is very often stupid.

 

I am NOT buying it

peg_c (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:57PM EST (link)

Steele was NOT “a little bit inarticulate” – !!! He was a DUMB@$$.

We don’t need any more of those, we are overflowing with them.

The Republican party needs an enema.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

 

How does this look to a potential new GOP member?

woodsman (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:20PM EST (link)

The GOP is so busy apologizing for their apologies they look like a bunch a non-leaders! And why the heck would M. Steele feel the need to comment like he did unless he wants to be all things to all people.

Stand for something and stand up Mr. Steele and quit side-stepping!

 
 

Steele is like a rope in a tug-of-war...

Darvin_Dowdy (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:43PM EST (link)

…and the heavy pulling is coming only from the left.

What Steele must learn is that Rush Limbaugh is, in fact, the “moderate” voice of the Conservative Movement.

There are millions of us out here that feel that he is not “incendiary” enough! Rush actually gets criticized for that. I am one who has criticized him for not adequately going after the rino/moderate-left/transnationalists within the GOP Hierarchy. And, no apologies for that, either.

Steele must realize that the Conservative Base is all out of patience and will not tolerate seeing the GOP move any increment or degree left of where Rush Limbaugh is. Limbaugh is the boundary marker. Don’t go past Michael. I hope/pray that Steele will go, hat in hand, and humbly ask Rush for guidance. Become his apprentice, of sorts. And stay off of the damned tv interviews for a long while. If not, he’d best resign now. DD

 

Steele Must Go!

reddinc Monday, March 2nd at 6:49PM EST (link)

We need a conservative in charge – not someone who agrees with the left and throws Rush under the bus. Didn’t he see the standing o’s? Even CNN thinks Steele is done after his interview.

Steele apologized and as veteran criminal lawyer, I think the best

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 6:50PM EST (link)

players are those that have learned their lesson. Steele will be cool now. He shamed himself and realized it and made contrition. That is good.

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Steele's apology doesn't work for me

peg_c (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:42PM EST (link)

Sorry, I’m sick and tired of apologies. Whatever folks say the first time is what they REALLY meant. No matter what side they’re on.

Dump Steele.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

His apology doesn't work for me either because...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:45PM EST (link)

he didn’t not address the hateful rhetoric of hitler slur where he did not defend the 8500 people who attended CPAC….he did not just offend Rush he offended all of those people!

But this was a real apology, not an "if I offended" variety

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:52PM EST (link)

and I suspect he learned a lesson and will be much better than he otherwise should have been. Folks, we have to learn to declare victory. The man apologized w/i 24 hrs of the statement and 6 hrs of Rush’s show. Steele is ok.

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BUT GC he NEEDs to apologize to the millions who watched....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:55PM EST (link)

and the 8500 who attended for allowing DL to equate them to Hitler and sit there nodding like a fool! that is the REAL apology!

He only addressed Rush but he OFFENDED way more than just Rush!

That is true, he offended all of us

peg_c (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:02PM EST (link)

Rush is a big guy and more than capable of defending himself. *I* am offended by Steele’s remarks the way (if not to the same degree) that I am offended when President Panic attacks everything I am and everything I believe in. I just have no patience anymore. And I no longer support Steele or the RNC unless/until they get a chairman I respect.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

 
 

Gamecock...

Darvin_Dowdy (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 9:37PM EST (link)

…I agree w/you. It takes a man to admit when he’s wrong. Steele just has to learn that the Movement Conservatives see Rush as the “benchmark”. The Conservative Base won’t tolerate the GOP if it goes left of where Rush is. I was “not” jazzed about Steele as RNC chair. But I felt the same about the other 5 candidates. Steele has come this far and I think he now has a clue. Where as if he is ousted and they get some other clueless individual in there, well, we’ll have to start all over. Steele has been through some combat now. He’s not exactly a battle hardened veteran yet but he’s got some real-time experience under his belt. I say, yes, lets give him another chance “but” [this is key] someone who has his ear needs to let him know where the benchmark is and that he’d best not take the GOP left of that. What say you Gamecock? DD

exactly DD, you state my case better than me - I actually was for Steele

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 10:04PM EST (link)

for months and only switched to Blackwell near the end due to his correct response to the Rush paraody issue. And oftentimes, the best people are those that learn a hard lesson and it took a man to issue that apology.

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I predicted this!

MUTNODJMET (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 8:52PM EST (link)

I knew Steele would offer a retraction and clarification Let’s see if he has learned his lesson.

good, so did I - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 10:05PM EST (link)

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I just read Steele's comments on Politico...

David_Rasbold (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:02PM EST (link)

… and feel a lot better (reserve right to change said feelings tomorrow).

Two things, though.

First, and not to beat up Steele any more, but why wait this long to respond to Rush. It makes him look responsive but kinda weak. Next time, respond immediately and forcefully. Well, actually next time don’t make such a comment and avoid issue altogether.

Second, I believe that if he shows himself to more “artful” (was this a word ever really used before the Messiah graced us with his presence) like he was in response to the Politico article then all will be well. It was an unfortunate off day for Steele, and he can ill afford too many more.

Now, about those Tea Party events around the nation…

 

Well...a leapord....his spots and all that! nt

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 7:20PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 

Question.

Canadian fake conservative Monday, March 2nd at 8:34PM EST (link)

Does this mean he not be da man anymore?

I do love it when the Left shows us their true racist colors!

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, March 3rd at 6:15AM EST (link)

I’m black myself – are you going to respond to me in jive/ebonics?

 
 

What apology?

Samsara (Diary) Monday, March 2nd at 10:00PM EST (link)

Asked if he planned to apologize, Steele said: “I wasn’t trying to offend anybody. So, yeah, if he’s offended, I’d say: Look, I’m not in the business of hurting people’s feelings here. … My job is to try to bring us all together.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19517.html

 

Gawd things are in the provebial hand basket when the firebrand feels the need to play peacemaker...

The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, March 4th at 1:20PM EST (link)

but here goes.

While not disagreeing with any of the statements about how offended conservatives on this site are by what Steele said, I would like you for just a few minutes, to try to see this from another perspective. Let’s start with
my post from yesterday. I do think that to some (probably small) extent, Steele understandably identifies with Obama. And I don’t doubt Steele has been pummeled in that spot often enough that it is sensitive to any other incidental approaches. And I think Rush’s words hit him squarely in that spot. I don’t think Rush meant to hit him in that spot. And I think that in some sense those of us who love Rush are reacting to Steele’s remarks the same way that Steele was reacting to Rush’s remarks.

The only way past this impasse, if for each of us to identify with the other. In one of Pat Buchanan’s books, he writes about being on his high school football team. This was well before the civil rights era, and the team wound up with a black player. Pat doesn’t talk about how quickly the player was accepted by the team, but at some point he was. And then the team was scheduled to play against some team whose coach said that they could play the game, but only if the black player didn’t take the field. In turn, Pat’s team said there was no way they were taking the field without him being allowed to play, and in the end, his team forfeited the game. Until we have that kind of mutual bonding, we won’t be able to work as a team to set the country back on the right path.

I think after Steele and Rush talked, Steele is identifying more with Rush. I think that will help him avoid this pitfall in the future.

As I said in my post yesterday, I am going to disagree with Steele in the future because he is libertarian and I am paleo. When such disagreements occur I will do my utmost to convince him of the correctness of my position over his. But I do not intend to throw him under the bus the way I would happily throw Specter, Snow, or Collins under the bus. I am not asking any of you to forgive Steele. I am asking you to accept his apology and shake hands. By all means, watch him like a hawk afterward. I certainly intend to.

Yeah, I would have preferred Ken Blackwell too. But we didn’t win that fight. And elections, even for the RNC have consequences. We now have to live with those consequences. Rush (and Hannity, and Levin, and Glenn Beck and all the rest) will continue to be the voices of our philosophical leadership. But Steele is now one of the prominent voices of our political leadership in exile, just like McConnell and Boehner. When they err, we should chasten them, but not throw them out.