We know Obama followers are part of a cult. We have more proof of that today.
Go to the White House website.
Click on the picture that comes up in the top third. Doesn’t matter which picture it is. Open it in a new window.
Note the directory: “Hero”
That’s right. Instead of an images directory, the Obama White House puts pictures of Obama in the “Hero” directory.
As a friend of mine pointed out:
Our hero announces Sen. Judd Gregg as Commerce Secretary nominee:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/hero/624×351/gregg_announcement.jpgHere’s our hero watching the Super Bowl (nice screen logo plug for NBC, by the way):
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/hero/624×351/superbowl2.jpgEvidently the first photo wasn’t big enough for a hero:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/hero/624×351/superbowl.jpg
Nice.
Steve Maley
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just a typo...
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, February 3rd at 11:28PM EST (link)maybe our “friends” the Chinese can hack the site (wouldn’t want any US citizen to do it
) and correct the typo….. that should be the Zero directory
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“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Easter Egg
spaceman_spiff Wednesday, February 4th at 5:15AM EST (link)I’m off to work so Ill make it short.
This phenomenon is called an “Easter Egg” and is quite common. Here are some references:
Easter egg (media), Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(media)
The Easter Egg Archive:
http://www.eeggs.com/
Top 25 Easter Eggs
http://www.eeggs.com/top25
If someone would like to “Add a New Easter Egg” go here:
http://www.eeggs.com/addanegg.html
If not I’ll try to make time when I get home.
Dropped URL
spaceman_spiff Wednesday, February 4th at 5:25AM EST (link)Red State software dropped the (media) out of the URL, However, it is listed on the fifth line of the article that comes up.
Dear Red State, please add a ‘Preview’ button to your site.
just a typo...
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Tuesday, February 3rd at 11:28PM EST (link)maybe our “friends” the Chinese can hack the site (wouldn’t want any US citizen to do it
) and correct the typo….. that should be the Zero directory
Regards from NoMoTown (the MOTORlessCITY)
“Liberals, looking to do for? America what they’ve done for? Detroit! which is DESTROY IT!”
“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
Follow @JLenardDetroit
(RS:Help) (JLD) (Hollyweird) (Brain-deads) (SPIN-cycle) (Obamaocare) (Party of kNOw) (Conservatism) (TEApeats) (respectful) (message) (Warning: Children Will Die!!)
Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
“The first Liberal was Satan” – a Rush caller (other Quotes)
Nuance is never lost on these folks.
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Tuesday, February 3rd at 11:33PM EST (link)Subtle, not pretentious, sans ego, just in it for the national pride.
Somebody wake me when his is over.
The website says a new Obama movie is in the works...
speciallist (Diary) Tuesday, February 3rd at 11:40PM EST (link)Great pic post.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 12:42AM EST (link)Wow.
So true.
thanks...I'm on a Movie roll...it's not Hero, it's Zerro
speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:35AM EST (link)Wow - what talent!
Praying (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 8:14AM EST (link)That’s GOOD! Ha ha. Made me laugh after I almost threw up my breakfast reading the original post about “Hero Worship”. Gag.
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
You da man!
itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, February 5th at 8:54AM EST (link)Good job $.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
He's a hero of what again?
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 12:43AM EST (link)Gosh. They have really established a new cult to replace JFK’s Camelot.
BHO ain't got the only cult. nt
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:23AM EST (link)In Vino Veritas
Agreed, even though I do like Palin
JSobieski (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:29AM EST (link)I just think she is not fully formed in her policy thinking and thus only time will tell whether she is a successor to Reagan, or a successor to John McCain.
I think people are rightfully so negative about the MSM that the MSM media’s hatred for Palin (which is also cult-like in its passion) has resulted in the “enemy of my enemy is my friend” kind of thinking.
History is filled of examples where such thinking was proven false.
How she handles low oil prices and the economic crisis will be telling. Speaking of the econ crisis, has anyone heard from Jindal in the national news? You hear from Sanford, but not from Jindal.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
I can attest to the hatred thing.
Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:36AM EST (link)We had to do some pretty rigorous culling during the lead-up to the election: we’d get people whose only purpose in life was to show up and primal scream about Sarah Palin. I think I banned more people in three months than I did the entire time before.
And in real life it was amazing, not to mention disturbing, to hear the way that otherwise perfectly-rational people would refer to the woman. I’m talking about stuff said that would start a fistfight if you caught somebody talking that way about your female relatives or friends.
That being said, I think that our involvement with Gov Palin should be primarily in making sure that she’s re-elected in 2010; we can worry about who’s going to be the 2012 candidate once we have an idea how Congress is going to look after the midterms. The House and Senate should be our prime consideration.
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Really, Moe, I don't want to argue with these people.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:43AM EST (link)I don’t hate her or anything; don’t much like her, that’s for sure though. That said, it is unseemly for purported conservatives, we of the rational bent, to form a cult about anyone. And when otherwise intelligent people just make stuff up or uncritically accept press releases, we’re not what I envision rational minds to be.
In Vino Veritas
Agreed, and I for one appreciate your insiders view
JSobieski (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:50AM EST (link)There is at this point however, no reason to purposely tweak the passionate Palin voter.
I think people are so angry at the MSM that they flock to Palin in a way that goes beyond policy or even reason.
However, the word “cult” is a sinister and provocative word. You don’t use the word in conjunction with a family member unless you are convinced that they need immediate deprogramming.
There is at this point, no harm in overestimating Palin’s accomplishments. Lets not look for civil wars at this point. The 2008 primaries were bad enough.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
Achance
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 6:05AM EST (link)What seems like a long time ago, a bunch of us Fredheads were told to “get over it” when he withdrew and we got stuck with McCain. We were lectured about never getting 100% what we want in a candidate and all sorts of silly things were said besides.
Buts that’s true about the 100%. We’re never going to get 100% because of the real diversity of thought that makes up the Republican party.
And right now, I think the Democrats are figuring out that they’re getting maybe 20% of what they really wanted, if that much when it all comes to light.
So, to help yu save your blood pressure a little bit, think about Palin, not as somebody you don’t like but as somebody who can energize the base. She is doing that, in spire of some little quirks that rub some the wrong way.
We went from a time of despair in the primaries where we wondered whether there were any conservatives left to represent us to Palins and Jindals. Even though we still lost this election, it means conservatism hasn’t died like the liberals want; those who have said they want to crush us into nothing.
Is she perfect? No. Neither is Jindal. Nor was Thompson. But remember, we’re never going to get 100%. Granted it feels cultish right now but that will settle down long before 2010 and 2012. Since her and Jindal’s emergence on the national scene, there’s hope when before there was apathy. That’s gotta be worth something.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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If only...
Josh Painter (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 8:53AM EST (link)Palin had Fred’s knowledge on the issues. Ah, but she hasn’t been counsel to two Senate committees which deal with security and foreign relartions. She hasn’t served multiple Senate terms. She hasn’t been an AEI visiting fellow studying Russia, China and North Korea. She hasn’t served on a board which advised SECSTATE on foreign policy/national security issues.
But she can get Fred to mentor her on foreign policy and national security issues. He shouldn’t require too much convincing to help her out, seeing as his wife is one of the higher-ups in Team Sarah.
Palin has something that Fred will never have. Although he’s a genial and charming fellow, he just doesn’t electrify crowds the way Palin can. Dads and Moms didn’t bring their sons and daughters to see Fred at campaign rallies, driving several hours to get there and standing in line for several more hours just to get inside.
If only Fred had been able to have that effect on John and Jane Q. Public, I remember some real knock down drag out arguments Frederalists had with Duncan Hunter supporters back when I used to hang out at FR a lot. Their argument was that Fred is not a conservative., His support for affirmative action and McCain Feingold disqualified him. Never mind Fred’s 86% ACU score, never mind his very good evaluations from CATO, Club for Growth and the National Taxpayers Union. His economic conservatism didn’t matter in the eyes of the Duncanistas because they considered Fred a heretic on two issues. If you confronted these people with Hunter’s support for the porkfest of a highway bill he voted for in 2005, they would either change the subject or say that it didn’t matter, because Hunrter would save us from all those “Meskins” coming across the border.
So Fred didn’t make the cut with these people. They didn’t want Mitt either. Poor Mitt’s conversion to conservatism came too late in his life to suit them. And besides, he belonged to a “cult” instead of a real church. In no small part, thanks to people like the Duncan Hunter absolutists, we were saddled with John McCain. And the saddest part of it all is that, even after the disaster of a candidate he was and the joke of a campaign he ran, the absolutists have not learned a dang thing from the election of 2008. In their eyes, Fred is still not a conservative, and neither is Romney.
Are Palinistas a cult? There’s a lot more of them than there are Duncanistas, but in terms of shooting-themselves-in-the-foot absolutism,, the Palinistas have nothing on the Duncanistas. Most Palin supporters, I believe would settle for a second choice before they would see another McCain debacle. The Duncan Hunter folks,meanwhile,are convinced that even though their guy got 1% or less of the vote in the ’08 GOP primaries, their man will be The One who will save the country in 2012.
Go figure…
- JP
- JP
“An armed society is a polite society” – Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon” (1942)
Thomas Sowell nailed it down today.
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 6:47PM EST (link)He was talking obstensibly about Steele and the RNC but he mentioned what Steele has that most Republicans can’t seem to do that is: talk. Palin has that same ability. We need talkers in the party and we have some now. Let’s not get bogged down with whether they’re perfect or not but give them room to talk. The rest will either follow or flop.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Thomas Sowell nailed it down today.
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 6:47PM EST (link)He was talking obstensibly about Steele and the RNC but he mentioned what Steele has that most Republicans can’t seem to do that is: talk. Palin has that same ability. We need talkers in the party and we have some now. Let’s not get bogged down with whether they’re perfect or not but give them room to talk. The rest will either follow or flop.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Achance
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 6:05AM EST (link)What seems like a long time ago, a bunch of us Fredheads were told to “get over it” when he withdrew and we got stuck with McCain. We were lectured about never getting 100% what we want in a candidate and all sorts of silly things were said besides.
Buts that’s true about the 100%. We’re never going to get 100% because of the real diversity of thought that makes up the Republican party.
And right now, I think the Democrats are figuring out that they’re getting maybe 20% of what they really wanted, if that much when it all comes to light.
So, to help yu save your blood pressure a little bit, think about Palin, not as somebody you don’t like but as somebody who can energize the base. She is doing that, in spire of some little quirks that rub some the wrong way.
We went from a time of despair in the primaries where we wondered whether there were any conservatives left to represent us to Palins and Jindals. Even though we still lost this election, it means conservatism hasn’t died like the liberals want; those who have said they want to crush us into nothing.
Is she perfect? No. Neither is Jindal. Nor was Thompson. But remember, we’re never going to get 100%. Granted it feels cultish right now but that will settle down long before 2010 and 2012. Since her and Jindal’s emergence on the national scene, there’s hope when before there was apathy. That’s gotta be worth something.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
Shouldn't we try..
1offewconservativesleft (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 7:41AM EST (link)to come as close to 100% as possible. Simply accepting someone as the leader of the party for acceptance sake has gotten the GOP nowhere and in fact it has hurt us.
Ronaldus Mangus was not 100% but he was darn close. What the GOP needs now is someone who can convey the conservative message, not someone who capitulates for political expediency.
Ronald Reagan never said he needed the Black, Asian, Hispanic, Gay, Environmentalist vote. What he did say was that you are American and you are capable of great things if left unfettered by government binds.
I keep reading these articles from supposed “conservative minds” stating that we need to expand our base by reaching out, but what they mean by reaching out is concending conservative principles at the alter of moderation. The false wisdom being that the GOP can somehow attract centrists and even lifelong democrats. I completely disgree with this premise and the reality is born out by the GOP’s current condition.
What this party needs is someone that can deliver the conservative message with clairty and unabashedness. Someone who wears conservatism like a badge of honor. Not somebody who is aplogetic about his/her conservatism, because in the end, where has that gotten us?
Afterall, if we have learned anything from Ronald Reagan, it’s that conseravitve principles, well explained, is a proven winning ticket every time it’s tried.
blaming guns for violent chrime is like blaming knives, forks and spoons for Rosey O’Donnels obesity!
Of course we should try for as close as we can get.
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 11:23AM EST (link)But, most of the time now, we don’t even come close to 50% ala McCain. Before we can get close to that 100% we have to define what it is. So far, no one has done that adequately to keep us from getting McCains, or McConnells or…
Palin is energizing the base and that counts for a lot right now at this moment. It may be that somewhere along the way, she’ll show some different. In the meantime we need to flow with that energy and figure out what we stand for. She’s paving the way for a lot of young leaders to get notice while carrying the Reagan message.
Do we really want to stop that because she’s not 100% of anybody’s ideal?
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Of course we should try for as close as we can get.
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 11:23AM EST (link)But, most of the time now, we don’t even come close to 50% ala McCain. Before we can get close to that 100% we have to define what it is. So far, no one has done that adequately to keep us from getting McCains, or McConnells or…
Palin is energizing the base and that counts for a lot right now at this moment. It may be that somewhere along the way, she’ll show some different. In the meantime we need to flow with that energy and figure out what we stand for. She’s paving the way for a lot of young leaders to get notice while carrying the Reagan message.
Do we really want to stop that because she’s not 100% of anybody’s ideal?
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Steph C, I don't expect much of any politician,
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 7:43AM EST (link)so nothing about Gov. Palin bothers me much. I know what to expect from her in Alaska politics and don’t much care what she does nationally; she’s just one more fish in the pond, albeit a big one these days, at the national level. What drives me over the edge is presumably sane people engaging in blind cult-like hero worship of her of the sort we denigrate the Obamaniacs for.
I just can’t see electing a Republican by endlessly repeating “She Cut the Budget,” whether true or not, the way BHO got elected by endlessly repeating “hopenchange.” Somehow, I think Republicans will be held to a more rational standard. So, I’m waiting for one of these writers of Palin Paeans to explain to me how reducing a supplemental request is a budget cut in any but a Democrat mind. (Hint: Her press guy, who undoubtedly wrote the press release, is a Democrat, so to him, it may be a budget cut. I just expect better on this side of the ditch.)
In Vino Veritas
LOL
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 7:50AM EST (link)Yeah, I can see where it will get a little wearing but we also have to remember that the press isn’t going to tell the whole story… ever. That’s not their function anymore, ala Chris Matthews who believes it’s his duty to make sure Obama succeeds.
We are, at our core, realists and pragmatists, but when you go from almost certain anihilation to a chance at survival, a little giddiness is acceptable. It will calm down in time.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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LOL
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 7:50AM EST (link)Yeah, I can see where it will get a little wearing but we also have to remember that the press isn’t going to tell the whole story… ever. That’s not their function anymore, ala Chris Matthews who believes it’s his duty to make sure Obama succeeds.
We are, at our core, realists and pragmatists, but when you go from almost certain anihilation to a chance at survival, a little giddiness is acceptable. It will calm down in time.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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I'm real tired of these accidental double posts.
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 7:51AM EST (link)Other times I’m told I’ve made a duplicate comment. I’d appreciate any suggestions to stop this happening.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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I know I am going to be flamed for this but, Achance, I agree with you 100%!
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 8:48AM EST (link)Indeed, I was flamed by many here last year when I noted that the “Palin Paeans” (I like that term, mind it I use it?) sounded, acted and even behaved awfully like the Obamaniacs. And they do!
As for Sarah Palin herself, I really do not dislike her. Indeed, interestingly enough, I think I may actually have a better opinion of her than you do. But like you, what I really find disgusting and dangerous is this Cult of Personality that has formed around her. As someone else on this board once called her, she has become, “The New One.”
Moreover, I think this Cult of Personality of her — or for any conservative, for that matter — is very dangerous and self-defeating. What happens is that we start promoting the person instead of the policies and principles; and when that happens we conservatives invariably start to excuse and even promote the liberal ideas of our so-called conservative politicians. Because every conservative politician is a politician and as a politician will, at some point, be tempted to stray from their conservative principles. It is our duty and responsibility as conservatives to hold them accountable when they do but when we develop this “Cult of Personality” around them, we don’t.
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I agree with that assessment as well ZootSuit....now stop making us agree :-)...nt
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 9:00AM EST (link)…
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ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 9:05AM EST (link)Miss a few weeks here and people start changing their names. And when that happens, who knows who you’ll end up agreeing with.
***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Yes I am but only because someone else.....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, February 5th at 7:20AM EST (link)had a name way too similiar and I did not want their to be confusion and YET confusion reigns anyway
Whenever Jaded has been taken on other websites first I have always fallen back to JadedByPolitics so it is only right that I share a MOST excellent name on here as well
I remind you again STOP making us agree
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I think it comes down to this achance
Jack_Savage (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 9:03AM EST (link)She has been treated cruelly and unfairly, in a way that no one has seen before. She seems to be a decent, family person, who lives her beliefs. People recognize this and respond to it.
I really don’t give a rat’s rear about her Alaskan political persona – it seems on one hand she is described as cold and calculating, then as a babe-in-the-woods neophyte. Kinda like W was an idiot, but at the same time fooled the whole world into going to war. It’s either one or the other.
I don’t think those of us who appreciate her are in the “worship” category – I certainly am not. If she were treated as every other politician was treated, I would wholeheartedly welcome it. The fact remains that she is not treated fairly, by those on the left or the moderates within our own party. Period.
Oh hogwash. Jack you're better than this (or somebody has highjacked your account)...
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 10:32AM EST (link)She has been treated cruelly and unfairly, in a way that no one has seen before. That is utter nonsense. Absolute utter nonsense. She got treated like a Republican politician who nobody in the media knew squat about before McCain nominated her. And they ran around and dug stuff up – which was pretty easy on the personal side. She had to know this was coming. She’s a smart lady, she’s a professional politician. If she didn’t know this was going to happen I don’t want her anywhere near a POTUS nomination, that would be like giving Chip Saltsman a pass for the CD.
As far as getting treated unfairly, tell that to GWB. Or Dan Quayle. Or just about any high level Republican. Get the hell over it. If she can’t deal with bad press she sure as hell can’t deal with the Iranians.
You better care about her Alaska political personna because it’s the same one she’d bring to Washington. If she can’t deal with Alaska’s problems and Alaska’s politicians she’s got no business in DC. The last thing we want to do is replace the current empty suit with a new empty suit. (And I’m not saying she’s an empty suit. She IS however, an unknown suit.)
With respect to your depiction of her as cold and calculating, then as a babe-in-the-woods neophyte that pretty well sums her up. In her comfort zone, in Alaska, she appears to be cold and calculating – which isn’t necessarily a bad thing for a politician. And in unknown and unfriendly DC, she IS a babe in the woods. She is going to have grow into that climate.
There absolutely IS a SP Cult running around RS these days. We’ve got people posting crap about her “cutting the budget” in AK – as in cutting current spending – based on a story about her cutting supplemental requests to the current budget. Two diaries were up on that last night and a whole group of folks got ALL huffy when it was pointed out that they were dead wrong.
As far as the “she hasn’t been treated fairly” line, that’s so much crap I’m sure your account has been highjacked. We don’t reward politicians on the right because they’re victims, we reward them because they are accomplished and capable. Gov Palin’s accomplishments are more that a little thin at this point in her career and, to her credit, she does seem to be pretty capable. We have to wait and see how she does over the next couple of years.
I’m firmly on the fence with Gov Palin. I hope she does well in AK and gets reelected. By then we’ll have some real stuff to judge her on. But frankly, if I have to listen to much more of the idol worship/victimology BS that we’ve had lately I’m putting HappyBunny on steroids.
Eric I apologize for piling on to this threadjack. I B done. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 10:33AM EST (link)Obviously, I disagree about Palin mbecker
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 5:40PM EST (link)I don’t recall the parentage of any of Dan Quayle’s children being questioned, or George Bush being portrayed as an “action doll” by Gary Trudeau, or any other female politician having T-shirts referencing them that say “So and So is a c__t” , or being invited to New York by a comedianne so they can be “gang raped by my black brothers”, or having their home church burned down, or being savaged in the press by anonymous campaign staffers over their wardrobe. Unless, of course, I have missed something, and I am willing to be corrected.
You put forth the straw man that I argue other Republicans have been treated fairly in comparison, and that is simply not the case. Of course Republicans on the national stage have never been, and will never be, treated fairly.
The way Sarah Palin has been treated IS different than any before her, because of the open misogyny of the left (and some on the right). I see it, others see it, and as a man with a wife and three daughters it REALLY pisses me off.
Others may be part of a Palin cult of personality, but I simply want her to be treated with the respect she has earned. No more, no less.
I could care less what she gets called
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 6:21PM EST (link)or that her family is front and center on page one of the NYT. That goes with the territory. And it certainly doesn’t qualify her to be President of the US, or even to be considered as a candidate for POTUS.
On the national scene, she simply hasn’t earned a whole lot of respect yet. She hasn’t done much. Now I would agree that if you’re a black guy from Chicago who hasn’t done much it’s more than enough to get you elected President, but life ain’t fair, get over it.
We’re conservatives. We focus on qualifications and on substance. So what if she’s treated differently vis her personal life. She has to deal with it if she wants to be President (and I don’t know that she does). If she can’t deal with front page headlines and criticism about her unmarried, teenage daughter’s pregnancy she sure as hell can’t deal with Iran. (I thought she handled the personal stuff very well, BTW.)
Rule 1: Life Ain’t Fair. Get over it.
Those two words...
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 6:28PM EST (link)mbecker
Those two words you used say it all:
“We focus on qualifications and on substance”
The Palin cheer leading squad does not want an honest discussion about ether of those two words when it concerns Governor Palin for some reason, even here on the Right were it would be an honest discussion. I have no clue why.
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We owe it to Palin to have an honest discussion
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 6:37PM EST (link)And if you think the things I outlined in my first paragraph come under the heading of “honest discussion”, then we have an honest disagreement.
Of issues of issues and competency
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 6:50PM EST (link)Try talking about real issues and real measures of competency to hold higher office and then you have a point.
The vast majority of your Palin postings outright fail as taking a critical look at the Governor’s stances on real issues, and her abilities to deal with the complex issues confronting this country.
The issues of personal insult to Governor Palin are indeed real, but you obviously think making those the focus of your comments is much more important than talking about real issues confronting this country and how Governor Palin would deal with them. Politics is a tough game, and if you were around during Reagan’s time in office, you’d know that.
Try writing something of substance, something about how Governor Palin would deal with the fiscal mess in this country, or where she expressed an opinion on some matter of national policy, I’d really like to hear about that, this other stuff, who cares, it’s part of politics and part of being in the public square.
mbecker called it, ” Rule 1: Life Ain’t Fair. Get over it.”
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We understand you don't like Palin
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 9:14PM EST (link)But you really should, since she dragged your buddy McCain’s limp ass much closer to the finish line than he ever would have gotten otherwise.
I am not making the personal insults the focus, but simply pointing out that people like her personally, take offense to the way she has been treated, and that may account for a large portion of her passionate defenders.
Now why don’t you slide out to the front yard and put up your “Specter 2012″ sign, pal. Offended? Get over it. Life ain’t fair.
The word for the day
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 9:42PM EST (link)Look up, Sycophant….you might also look up obsequiousness while you’re at it. Pretty much sums your in depth knowledge and reality based view on the matter of Governor Palin and what her political future holds.
Have a nice day Sparky!
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Actually, the word is "deranged"
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 10:07PM EST (link)You really need to look at the effect strong women have on you. Maybe “intimidated” would be a better one to look up.
OK – now that Insult Time is over, let me quote you:
“The issues of personal insult to Governor Palin are indeed real, but you obviously think making those the focus of your comments is much more important than talking about real issues confronting this country and how Governor Palin would deal with them.”
You know what? You are dead wrong in characterizing my comments, but exactly right in your assertion of what needs to be done with all future candidates, including Palin. I plan on doing that very thing while understanding that a competent dish rag doesn’t win elections. We saw that in 2008. I do not plan to dismiss Sarah Palin out of hand, as many here do, because this is as bad or worse than mindlessly hopping on her bandwagon.
Republicans ran a competent candidate in 2008 who was as bad as they get in terms of connecting with people. Like it or not, that quality is essential, and Sarah Palin has it in spades. My comments addressed specifically how I felt about her treatment during the last election, which I regard as classic misogyny, and her effect on those who support her. I supported her then, and support her in her current position, but will withold judgment on whether I want her to be the next POTUS.
A nice day to you as well.
Steve, I disagree. All I care about re Palin or anyone else is substance
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 6:40PM EST (link)and on that, I was won over 18 months before she was named. She is right on the issues. The discussion that mbecker is engaged in, is about what some SAY about her, not her substantive positions.
The fact remains, that McCain trailed badly before he picked her, and moved into the lead with her, until he screwed up on the bailout bill.
She has actually governed and achieved conservative goals.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Bunk
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 7:00PM EST (link)Mike
Bunk…Palin has an incredibility thin record on national issues, outside of the pro life issue. As has been pointed out on numerous times, Governor Palin is a State Governor, who really has had no reason to address national issues, it has not been her job to worry about the nation and Alaska has been a challenge for anyone to govern. I find nothing strange about that at all.
Over the next few months/years Governor Palin will let people know where she stands on any range of real issues confronting this country, and people will be hungry to learn what she thinks.
I look forward to hearing from the Governor and what she really believes and what her stances are on the any number of national level issues.
If you wish to continue the pretense that any Republican coming after an incredibility unpopular Republican President Bush coupled with a national fiscal melt-down could have won this past election, knock yourself out. That dog don’t hunt.
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and that stopped Obama, HOW??? (nt)
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 9:45PM EST (link)Substantive positions...
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 7:13PM EST (link)I’d love to see a set of diaries on her substantive positions on stuff. Nobody seems interested in writing one. And I certainly don’t care to do the research now, there’s too much important stuff going on and I don’t consider Gov Palin’s qualifications for a POTUS run in 2012 to be important right now.
There are really three separate and unique discussions going on:
First, there is the Palin’s “national” positions, qualifications. As I noted, the discussion is more than thin from her supporters.
Second, there’s the “Palin’s a victim of the press…” crap that is being discussed here. If that’s the best they’ve got, she’s not a candidate. The other part that goes along with this is what a great stump speaker she is, and she certainly is. So is Obama and I don’t want a repeat of a well spoken empty suit on our side (not saying she’s an empty suit, we really don’t know yet).
Third, there’s the “Alaska” Palin. Specifically, her political performance in becoming Governor and her governance of the state. The only person who seems to be interested in this subject is Art (and a couple of others) and the Palin Crew here are patently offended to have any discussion about her performance in her real job, which frankly makes no sense to me at all.
I saw Palin on C-Span in early 2008 and she was asked questions on all major issues
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 7:59PM EST (link)and I agreed with her. She shares the Reagan values and I had no issue I disagreed on. Then I saw her in the campaign and so, I don’t see her as thin at all. I could care less about the press. They treated Reagan worse and he won two landslides. In Alaska, she rooted out corruption and negotiated the nat gas pipeline.
what’s not to like
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
I don't care about the press either.
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 8:09PM EST (link)And, you’re right, she “says” the right things. My concern is that her actions as Governor line up with her rhetoric. And on that note, I think she’s done a good job on ethics reform in AK, but as far as the pipeline is concerned, it would appear that nothing “real” has been done so far. It’s an interesting proposal that’s being investigated.
I’m far more interested in two things. First, her getting reelected in ’10. I had major problems with Romney because he didn’t run for reelection (long story I won’t rehash here), and I will have the same big problems with Palin if she doesn’t run for reelection or runs for Senate. She’s got to show some follow on strength to interest me.
Second, I want to see how she deals with the AK budget issues given the price of crude. She’s about to run way low on cash.
good points and agreed - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 8:12PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Palin the Phenom Discussion
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 8:31PM EST (link)Here’s a fact about Sarah Palin – she’s a phenom. A team has to recognize its own talent. You have to catch lightning in a bottle. There are tons of solid conservatives that can’t connect with average people; who lack charisma; who can’t electrify an audience; who aren’t tough enough to handle the scrutiny; who can’t raise money….
Palin is a natural. She connects with her audiences. She reaches broad demographics that extend beyond the traditional Republican base. She gave one of the best convention speeches I’ve ever seen. She drew crowds of 60,000 in Florida. She was a veep candidate drawing larger crowds than the McCain and Biden combined. She had young kids cracking up with her on SNL. She had moms across America sympathizing with her stops at Walmart to by diapers.
No, not everybody is going to agree with all of her positions, but generally speaking she is a solid conservative. Republicans deserve to lose if they keep kicking their leaders in the groin because they are not perfect conservatives. But it’s not just about positions. It’s also about finding a winner. It’s about her ability to electrify the base, expand the party, and connect with people. The Dems are frightened of her because they know her talent. Obama had been campaigning for two years. Palin was thrown onto the national stage and had two months.
Not recognizing Palin as a Republican star is political nihilism. I am not wrapped in a conservative cocoon. I know she can reach so many people and bring so many people into the party while still electrifying the base.
There are some things I regard as over the line
Jack_Savage (Diary) Friday, February 6th at 6:35PM EST (link)And Palin’s treatment is Beyond The Pale in my country.
I suppose describing Obama with the “N” word – maybe on a T-shirt at a counter-rally – would just come with the territory, and he should just get over it. Just normal political discourse, and life ain’t fair.
I will now excuse myself from the unfamiliar territory of disagreeing with you, my friend.
Just for the record, the actual increments and decrements:
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 11:14AM EST (link)Department Change
Administration: 1,652.3
Commerce: -80.0
Corrections: 655.8
Education & Early Development: -2,570
Environmental Conservation: -390
Fish and Game: -1,000
Governor: -648
Health & Social Services: -20,292.10
Labor & Workforce: -330
Law: 1,444.10
Military & Veterans Affairs: 800
Natural Resources: -1,057
Public Safety: 594.90
Revenue: 404.70
Transportation: 3,009.20
University of Alaska: 2,018.20
Alaska Court System: 423.20
Debt Service: -7,339
Special Appropriations: -200,000
Totals: -222,703.7
All the figures are in thousands. Most of the “reduction” is the $200 Million “special appropriations” which represents exploration tax credits that the State expected but which the industry did not claim. That in itself is a bad thing since the State needs more exploration to help increase the declining oil production. The $2.570 cut in Education is actually a reduction in a construction debt reimbursement fund and represents the fact that there were fewer than the expected number of claims for reimbursement from local school districts. The rest of the “savings” are an unallocated decrement, which leaves it to the departments to choose how, or even whether, to save the money. Unallocated decrements allow the Governors’ Office or the department Commissioners to reward friends or punish enemies by taking all the cut in some function, spreading it around, or just letting the vacancy factor go up. In any event, unallocated general fund decrements always fall on the core agencies and functions such as law enforcement, corrections, financial and human resources management. The big money pits such as DHSS and DOT are heavily federally funded and State GF only acts to leverage it at anywhere from 50-50 to 90-10, there’s very little 100% federal anymore, so managers will never cut GF match since it costs them so much federal funding.
So, it is far from an Earth shattering event, or even a noticable event, but somebody in the Governor’s Office did do a good press release about it.
In Vino Veritas
Agreed. There is no reason to argue about Palin
JSobieski (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:43AM EST (link)at this point. Every conservative should want her re-elected in 2010. 2012 is a long ways off, and she will have more than fair chance to establsih herself given her high name recognition and popularity.
I was a big fan of her selection as VP, and was an admirer of hers before she was nominated (a couple of my past Redstate comments give evidence to that), but there is no reason for anyone here to be arguing about her in dramatic terms (i.e. messiah vs. dunce).
Time will tell, and we have plenty of time. Some of the arguments regarding Palin on this site are quite disturbing—on both sides.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
I love Cults......and regarding Jindal...
speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 1:54AM EST (link)he was listed in the Original AP story as one of the GOP Gov’s scrambling to get their share of the Porkulus…..
they went on to quote him as saying that if he was a Senator, he would Not vote for it…
I guess if the Gov’s don’t line up and get a piece they aren’t doing their jobs…..
But the MSM LOVES to use that against the GOP ones….
There's a lot of pressure on them.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 7:56AM EST (link)It is tough on Gov. Palin since we now have our shiny new Democrat Senator who can turn loose the guns on her about how she hasn’t asked for enough. Sen. Murkowski, no stranger to reaching in the cookie jar, hasn’t chimed in yet, but Begich and his mouthpiece, the Anchorage Daily News, has had plenty to say.
In Vino Veritas
That's why Sanford is my current #1 [nt]
ZootSuit (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 9:36AM EST (link)***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!
Maybe we should get back to the immediate job?
Praying (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 8:20AM EST (link)All the comments about 2010 and 2012 are interesting, but I’m kinda thinking we have an immediate task to take care of here – making sure that the democrats obscene porkopolus spending bill doesn’t pass – otherwise there will be no point in pontificating about 2010 or 2012. We’ll be toast. (Note to Mike Gamecock DeVine – see, I’m a convert!)
No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming
Not finding any "HERO" link - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 9:42AM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
This is REAL hero worship..........
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Wednesday, February 4th at 7:18PM EST (link)I’ve already sent a thank-you note.
Representative Earl Pomeroy, (ND- At Large) http://www.pomeroy.house.gov
H.R.836 : To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to reduce the tax on beer to its pre-1991 level, and for other purposes.
H.R. 836
Sponsor: Rep Pomeroy, Earl [ND] (introduced 2/3/2009)
Cosponsors (11)
Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [LA-7]
Rep Cantor, Eric [VA-7]
Rep Crowley, Joseph [NY-7]
Rep Davis, Artur [AL-7]
Rep Heller, Dean [NV-2]
Rep Higgins, Brian [NY-27]
Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3]
Rep Kind, Ron [WI-3]
Rep Latham, Tom [IA-4]
Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8]
Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12]
Git-R-Done !