This is coming off the Foxwire.
Congressman Jack Murtha of Pennsylvania’s 12th Congressional District said he’d be happy to have Guantanamo Bay terrorist prisoners in his district. He apparently gets to speak for all the people in his district on this. I’m sure they are thrilled.
Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., says he’d be willing to house prisoners from Guantanamo Bay in his Congressional district if President Obama makes good on a plan to close the U.S. prison there.
Mr. Obama pledged to shutter the camp during his presidential campaign. In one of his first acts in office, the president circulated a draft Wednesday that would shut down Guantanamo Bay within a year.
Murtha only has a minimum security prison in his district. But says he’d have no reservations about holding detainees there in a maximum security prison.
“Sure, I’d take ‘em,” said Murtha. They’re no more dangerous in my district than in Guantanamo.”
Murtha added that he there was “no reason not to put ‘em in prisons in the United States and handle them the way they would handle any other prisoners.”
Murtha represents the area of Pennsylvania where United 93 crashed on 9/11. I’m sure the people of his district are ready to greet Khalid Sheikh Mohammed with open arms and casseroles.
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Ned Reck (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:33PM EST (link)I wish those terrorists could stay at Murtha’s house. He could fix ‘em breakfast… they could call him… Mother Murtha.
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Princeliberty Wednesday, January 21st at 7:33PM EST (link)Poor Murtha really seems to have very little oxygen going to the brains these days.
They should interview the people in his district voted for him in November,
talking about what were you thinking?!
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Well, OK but I'd rather see Murtha in Gitmo. nt
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:34PM EST (link)LOL
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:48PM EST (link)Priceless
Princeliberty Wednesday, January 21st at 7:35PM EST (link)Priceless quote I must admit I had missed that one!
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well, my husband (who is from the south) had a theory...
Praying (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:38PM EST (link)that they should just release all the GITMO prisoners into the woods in southern states one weekend. And make sure the sheriffs and other law officials had “other bidness” that weekend. He said he was pretty sure that those terrorists would be “taken care of.” He said you might have a dog drag home a bone every now and then, but you could just say it belonged to a deer. Maybe the same is true of Pennsylvania – isn’t that where all those bitter folks clinging to their GUNS and bibles live? (Note to anyone living in the south or Pennsylvania – please be assured I am only making this comment tongue in cheek – so please do not be offended! I mean no offense. I mean to anyone other than Murtha. Who is a jerk.
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LOL...no offense taken...In fack...I think I'd have a little "bid-ness" to attend to myself!
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:51PM EST (link)Ace, you are too violent...
olsmithie (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 7:59PM EST (link)Will there be a bow season?
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LOL...no...But I'll be looking for someone to field dress them!
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 2:16AM EST (link)Hey...GREAT IDEA JACK!!!
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:45PM EST (link)Maybe we can dump them off at a halfway house down the block from your house!
Jackass!
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kat (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 8:11PM EST (link)n/t
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Why not put them in his home, like they did with debtors in Victorian England?
streetwise (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:52PM EST (link)Noblesse oblige, ya know?
As conservatives, we should revive old customs! nt
streetwise (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:52PM EST (link)I think he should check with his gun-toting, bible-thumping, "racist", "redneck" constituents first. (nt)
Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:56PM EST (link)Just don't put all the Gitmo goons on a United Airlines flight
izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:56PM EST (link)they might want to re-create United 93.
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Jack Murtha o said he’d be happy to have Guantanamo Bay terrorist prisoners in his district.
olsmithie (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 5:56PM EST (link)Probably figures he can use the additional votes.
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Haha!
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:06PM EST (link)I was thinking something like that too.
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No Symapthy For Murtha's Constituents
IJB Wednesday, January 21st at 6:03PM EST (link)They knew who he was when they reelected him.
If Gitmo detainees were put in his district, and then escaped and slaughtered many in that district, they would have no one to blame but themselves.
No sympathy.
murtha's constituents can't help themselves
icbm (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:35PM EST (link)they’re just a bunch of racists
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suzieQ (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:12PM EST (link)Maximum security prisons hold the most violent rapists, murderers, and outright evil death-dealers on this planet. How often does someone escape from one? Would we really have to worry about some little Arabic freak ever making it past the last fence at one of these?
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How about a "little Arabic" terrorist
From ME to You (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:24PM EST (link)with a large group of fellow terrorists on the outside helping him???
I think the odds of success go way up, and if he doesn’t survive you get another martyr for the cause!
I like having them in an isolated area where the only way out is to get past a very large group of well armed and highly trained Marines with orders to shoot to kill!
Wow
BlueLandRed (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 7:59PM EST (link)A mass terrorist army attacking a military prison? And then what? They just drive away? Are you like some sort of fiction writer?
Anyways, like it or not, if rumors are true, Gitmo is getting the axe tomorrow. So the terrorists (and they’re not all terrorists) are going to need a “home” here in the Good Old US of A… somewhere. If Pennsylvania too scary for you, how about a remote part of Nellis AFB in the middle of Nevada? Let Reid have them. I know there’s a lot of people in Vegas that need work.
There is only ONE military prison...
From ME to You (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:08PM EST (link)that has a significantly large contingent to handle an “assault”…Ft. Leavenworth!!
All other prisons are “lightly” defended and are manned (or should the PC term be “personnelled” ?) to keep people in!!
If law enforcement was so “all powerful”, as you seem to think, there would be no need for a fugitives list and the FBI wouldn’t have to spend millions of dollars trying to find “missing persons”.
As far as location…how about 71° 23′ 14″ N, 156° 28′ 44″ W ???
You want to leave??? OK…It’s a long walk!!
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olsmithie (Diary) Friday, January 23rd at 1:21PM EST (link)Minus 8, wind chill minus 17 at 1:30 in the afternoon..
Sounds like a good spot for them to me!
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Assuming this is a good faith question, yes.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:26PM EST (link)It isn’t much of a risk that they could get out. It is very much a risk that someone would try to come in to get them. It would be a lot easier than most people would want to think about to shoot your way in to a prison.
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Couldn't we say the same thing about the mafia?
suzieQ (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:32PM EST (link)I mean, we lock up the number one hit man for the mob, and he has a small army of criminals and crooked cops/lawyers/corrections personnel to help him right back out – to slaughter the families of those who put him there in the first place. Maximum security prisons earn that name, and I would bet most of the guards that work there have been soldiers at one point in time.
I think Murtha is just using this angle to get funding for a new prison.
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The mafia cares about the cost of killing a cop,
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:42PM EST (link)CO, or judge, terrorists don’t. The mob will just do the time; you can live pretty well in prison with money and connections. These guys care about the statement of shooting their way in and they don’t really care if all they drag out is hamburger.
In Vino Veritas
Can we afford same liberties to them?
antisocial (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 7:22PM EST (link)In warfare most times you don’t get “proof”. Normal courts won’t allow for methods necessary to extract and correlate information.
Even if information was extracted normal courts won’t allow that as admissible evidence in courts.
What if they were released by the courts due to lack of admissible evidence(due to torture(waterboarding is torture you know..) or some other reason ) and their home countries refused to take them?
Most undercover agents will refuse to testify because that will blow up their cover and expose them to enormous risks.
Everyday they are brought to court they will be at risk of being snatched.
Please don’t assume terrorists are equivalent to Mafia. Mafia is not even close. These are fanatics and they are high value targets. A high security prison complex is nothing compared to Gitmo.
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AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 2:26AM EST (link)the Mob doesn’t put bombs on buses and fly planes into buildings!
Oh…and the Nob by and large were never picked up on the battlefield out of uniform which according to the Geneva conventions is punishable by summary execution as a spy!
Move them to the US mainland and they will have
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:36PM EST (link)virtually unlimited access to lawyers. They won’t need anybody to shoot their way in or out.
They also will have unlimited access to “religious services” giving them the ability to further radicalize the current Islamic inmate population (a real problem in US prisons) and more or less unlimited access to communicate outside.
Exactly!
bk (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 7:43PM EST (link)They’ll have unlimited legal help (mostly at our expense) and will demand all sorts of witnesses and documents that the government will be unable or unwilling to produce, so there will be zero chance of conviction.
What then? Well if we release them since they’re innocent, it would be UNFAIR to deport them. It’s not like they entered the country illegally – we brought them here, right?. And since it’s UNFAIR to separate families, if they each have a few wives and a few dozen kids wouldn’t we be obligated to bring them over here too? And then there are the reparations for all the horrible treatment they received. Where does it end?
It’s amazing these genius Democrats haven’t thought of the unintended consequences, but then again they never do.
Hey...since you're here Achance...how about putting them out on the ANWR
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 2:23AM EST (link)with a pair of sandals, a prayer mat, a Koran in their undies!?
Maybe the Caribou will keep them warm!
Adak is better, Ace.
Achance (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 5:39AM EST (link)Used to be a very spooky Navy and Air Force base waaaaay out in the Aleutian Chain. Being sent to Adak used to be the ultimate threat in the military. It’s an island closer to Japan than either mainland Alaska or the continental US. I’ve long advocated using it for Alaska’s maximum security prison; don’t even need officers unless you’re concerned about protecting the prisoners from each other. Set up a secure area for the administrative and medical folks and let the inmates have the run of the place otherwise.
The Arctic Slope gets colder and there is some period of 24 hour darkness up there, but nothing can match the Aleutians for sheer misery; constant wind and rain or snow. Adak is about the same lattitude as Juneau, 58 degrees North, so the winter days get down to about six hours of daylight. The standard line for anywhere out there is that they use an anchor chain for a wind guage; it is bad weather central. Read “The Forgotten War” about the Aleutian Campaign in WWII for some perspective.
In Vino Veritas
I've seen a documentary on the fight to retake the Aleutians in WWII
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 9:24AM EST (link)Fascinating stuff and it sounds like the perfect place for a terrorist from the sunny middle east! Just parachute them in and drop food and supplies in to them for as long as they survive!
Isolation from the rest of the prison population?
Xasteius (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:31PM EST (link)Not speaking as an expert, but they probably would isolate the terrorists form the rest of the general prison popuolation.
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Won't work.
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:40PM EST (link)The state of California “isolates” prison gang members in Special Management Units (other states do as well). No contact with other inmates, 23 hour lock downs one hour for “recreation” alone. No contact visits, all visits are monitored (except legal). The guys in SMU still manage to run the prison gangs on the inside and the outside version of them as well.
That assumes the courts decide isolation is warranted (nt)
zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:08AM EST (link)Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman
Or allowed nt
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 2:32AM EST (link)It's not only that, but
woodsman (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 8:36PM EST (link)the fact the terrorists could also expand their ministry to convert more inmates into radicals which could in effect turn the prisons into larger recruiting zones.
Agreed
jo_davi (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:01AM EST (link)That’s what worries me the most. But I doubt Murtha actually thought about that.
Wow. I need to stop being such a racist.
Prison?
zuiko (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:15AM EST (link)These guys need to be convicted in a court of law to remain in prison. They are not going to get convicted. We aren’t going to give up our sources and methods to convict these guys. That’s why we didn’t want to use the court system in the first place. So that is a totally meaningless question. We can’t lock them up in prison for 20 years without letting them (and all their terrorist friends) have access to all the evidence we have against them… which will just get lots of Americans killed.
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It's going to be just like Gran Torino...
kowalski (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:24PM EST (link)Murtha should stipulate that they don’t even go to prison! In fact, he should let them apply for federal housing.
I’ve been to the site of Flight 93 and driven through the surrounding towns, so you can trust me on this. Sure, people will grumble at first, but they’ll do what Murtha wants in the end, because they elected him! First of all, it’ll be a boon to the local economy, because there’s going to be tremendous media interest. Murtha will help make sure they get subsidies and housing grants, educational loans, and outreach services. Then all the other people in the area will apply also. The local police and fire departments will get renewed attention because they’re worried about the problems that might happen, and as a result they’ll get a bunch of shiny new equipment. The former Guantanamo inmates will take up antiques and crafts, and it’ll be a tale of redemption that Oprah can feature.
It’ll be a boon to the community having those terrorists live there in Pennsylvania. Jack Murtha doesn’t realize the gold mine he’s sitting on.
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Unfortunately that will porbably happen. nt
Xasteius (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:32PM EST (link)Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.
I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.
Boon?
jo_davi (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:02AM EST (link)I think you meant boom.
No, it's "boon"
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I personally would like to see them put in the wilds of AK....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 6:29PM EST (link)With Sarah in her helicopter shooting the “wolves” just that thought makes me happy!
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saintgeorgegentile Wednesday, January 21st at 7:22PM EST (link)Murtha’s just looking for more pork. I’m sure a maximum security prison built from the ground up would be very $$$.
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Here are the links
antisocial (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 7:38PM EST (link)http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/21/murtha-says-hell-guantanamo-prisoners-district/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/21/obama-closing-gitmo-year/
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I thought the plan was to send them all to California (seriously).
Kenny Solomon (Diary) Wednesday, January 21st at 8:16PM EST (link)That’s where everyone on the left knows the best judges in the country come from and also where The 9th Circuit Court sits and the entire country knows how great they are at subjugating….. er, I mean usurping…….. um, I really meant upholding, the law … yeah, that’s the ticket, UPHOLDING the law.
I’ve a quick question…. when and what will be the one thing that becomes the tipping point be for the US Citizens who actually still care about our country to rise up and say ENOUGH ?!?
I reached mine on November 4th 2008 around 11pm, but I’ve been way too nice since then – and I’ll still tr y to be. But nothing good is going to come from The One, his “unifying” nature and his people.
They Should go to Cali
jo_davi (Diary) Thursday, January 22nd at 12:04AM EST (link)So many people are leaving, if they just do a hurry-up and release them- they can be a new source of tax revenue.
Right? Right?