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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bunch of Political hacks that will be putting forth their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2008/10/20/can-we-afford-an-upcoming-obama-surrender-di/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Surrender First Doctrine&lt;/a&gt; designed to advance/protect the Democrat Party from losing support of its Leftist loonies should be hanged from the nearest Washington DC trees as the Traitors to the Country they are (by putting Country LAST) once it occurs!

Next time I won&#039;t sugar-coat it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bunch of Political hacks that will be putting forth their <a href="http://www.redstate.com/jlenarddetroit/2008/10/20/can-we-afford-an-upcoming-obama-surrender-di/" rel="nofollow">Surrender First Doctrine</a> designed to advance/protect the Democrat Party from losing support of its Leftist loonies should be hanged from the nearest Washington DC trees as the Traitors to the Country they are (by putting Country LAST) once it occurs!</p>
<p>Next time I won&#8217;t sugar-coat it!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Emanuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Emanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think what has kept us safe is the extraordinary covert capability developed by USSOCOM, the fact that we are stationing military covert action teams in assorted countries, and our large scale and active presence in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Horn of Africa which had deprived transnational terror organizations of funds and safe havens for training camps and planning.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This USSOCOM veteran couldn&#039;t agree more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think what has kept us safe is the extraordinary covert capability developed by USSOCOM, the fact that we are stationing military covert action teams in assorted countries, and our large scale and active presence in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Horn of Africa which had deprived transnational terror organizations of funds and safe havens for training camps and planning.</p></blockquote>
<p>This USSOCOM veteran couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
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		<title>By: kchand</title>
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		<dc:creator>kchand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watch how Israel/Gaza(Hamas) pans out over the coming months.  How BO and his administration acts (and reacts) will tell you everything you need to know.  My guess is that Israel will, ultimately, end up weaker unless Hamas is destroyed.  Watch how the international community responds to that action AND to BO&#039;s actions.

If Israel is not objectively victorious, the green light is on for Iran and all its proxies.  You don&#039;t annoy the termites that are destroying your house, you eliminate them.  And, the terminates aren&#039;t destroying your house because of an ideology. 

Hopefully, oil prices will stay very low to provide less funding and help increase the unrest in the oil-rich middle east countries.  That would help much more than the BO administration will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watch how Israel/Gaza(Hamas) pans out over the coming months.  How BO and his administration acts (and reacts) will tell you everything you need to know.  My guess is that Israel will, ultimately, end up weaker unless Hamas is destroyed.  Watch how the international community responds to that action AND to BO&#8217;s actions.</p>
<p>If Israel is not objectively victorious, the green light is on for Iran and all its proxies.  You don&#8217;t annoy the termites that are destroying your house, you eliminate them.  And, the terminates aren&#8217;t destroying your house because of an ideology. </p>
<p>Hopefully, oil prices will stay very low to provide less funding and help increase the unrest in the oil-rich middle east countries.  That would help much more than the BO administration will.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Republicans at the appointee level will be fired as soon as BHO&#039;s hand comes off the Bible.  All supervisors and managers promoted by Republicans will have a laser dot on their forehead.  Some will be fired, even if they&#039;re career employees- Democrats can get away with it, some will be reassigned, and some will be given a chair in a closet and no phone.  And after all that, if anybody dares do anything considered not in the Administration&#039;s interest, justice will be swift and certain.  

Republicans need to watch and learn from the next three months as Democrats move to undo everything the Republicans have done in living memory.  The lesson may not do any good because unless the Rs step up quickly, it may be a generation before there is any hope of being in power again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Republicans at the appointee level will be fired as soon as BHO&#8217;s hand comes off the Bible.  All supervisors and managers promoted by Republicans will have a laser dot on their forehead.  Some will be fired, even if they&#8217;re career employees- Democrats can get away with it, some will be reassigned, and some will be given a chair in a closet and no phone.  And after all that, if anybody dares do anything considered not in the Administration&#8217;s interest, justice will be swift and certain.  </p>
<p>Republicans need to watch and learn from the next three months as Democrats move to undo everything the Republicans have done in living memory.  The lesson may not do any good because unless the Rs step up quickly, it may be a generation before there is any hope of being in power again.</p>
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		<title>By: tsquare</title>
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		<dc:creator>tsquare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if not directly about Panetta then about the whole world view of the BHO Administration.

Defenses will come down... be relaxed  and there will be another attack... &#039;the world&#039; knows he&#039;s weak, and will want to get him to get out... of everything.

And when it does the carnage it will make 9/11 pale in comparison.

Elections have consequences BHO is who &#039;the people&#039; wanted. Now they will get him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if not directly about Panetta then about the whole world view of the BHO Administration.</p>
<p>Defenses will come down&#8230; be relaxed  and there will be another attack&#8230; &#8216;the world&#8217; knows he&#8217;s weak, and will want to get him to get out&#8230; of everything.</p>
<p>And when it does the carnage it will make 9/11 pale in comparison.</p>
<p>Elections have consequences BHO is who &#8216;the people&#8217; wanted. Now they will get him.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, it&#039;s a rhetorical question.

But still, they just seem to be organically unable to get over BDS and their hatred of everything Republican. Collectively, we do have enemies who are capable of inflicting greater damage to the country than Halliburton, Blackwater and Dick Cheney combined.

Their model of behavior relative to the country seems to mimic the relationship between parasitic unions (UAW or SEIU) and their employers. In their single minded power-grabs, they are blissfully unaware that what they&#039;re doing is strangling the host.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, it&#8217;s a rhetorical question.</p>
<p>But still, they just seem to be organically unable to get over BDS and their hatred of everything Republican. Collectively, we do have enemies who are capable of inflicting greater damage to the country than Halliburton, Blackwater and Dick Cheney combined.</p>
<p>Their model of behavior relative to the country seems to mimic the relationship between parasitic unions (UAW or SEIU) and their employers. In their single minded power-grabs, they are blissfully unaware that what they&#8217;re doing is strangling the host.</p>
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		<title>By: Illinicon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Illinicon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much of the CIA chief&#039;s job is being top spy and how much of it is being buraeucrat? I think that is the key question here, if its a bureaucratic job than Panetta is a ok, but underwhelming, pick as he can do that and that agency isnt working that way it should (run up to 9/11 and Iraq War. If it is more of a hands on intelliegence job than he should not be it. I still do not why he did not choose Jane Harmon, she someone who has been critical of Bush adminastration policy, but I think everyone would agree she is a grown up on intellegence issues unlike Panetta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much of the CIA chief&#8217;s job is being top spy and how much of it is being buraeucrat? I think that is the key question here, if its a bureaucratic job than Panetta is a ok, but underwhelming, pick as he can do that and that agency isnt working that way it should (run up to 9/11 and Iraq War. If it is more of a hands on intelliegence job than he should not be it. I still do not why he did not choose Jane Harmon, she someone who has been critical of Bush adminastration policy, but I think everyone would agree she is a grown up on intellegence issues unlike Panetta.</p>
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		<title>By: LJ "Beaglescout" Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJ "Beaglescout" Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panetta may be able to do something good at the CIA after all. As a fierce partisan loyal to the President rather than the CIA he will brook no betrayal of the President in the CIA. These are the same traitors who leaked and burned Bush, their own President and boss, repeatedly, who Bush never called out or prosecuted for their actions. Bush&#039;s inaction was inexcusable. If he had aggressively prosecuted the leaks about secret prisons the much more important and damaging SWIFT and FISA leaks never would have happened, the whole Plame/Wilson fiasco of lies would have been defended much more aggressively, and Scooter Libby might not have been caught in a perjury trap. Obviously the CIA leakers cannot be trusted by any President, and Panetta&#039;s first job is going to be to hamstring and drive them out of the CIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panetta may be able to do something good at the CIA after all. As a fierce partisan loyal to the President rather than the CIA he will brook no betrayal of the President in the CIA. These are the same traitors who leaked and burned Bush, their own President and boss, repeatedly, who Bush never called out or prosecuted for their actions. Bush&#8217;s inaction was inexcusable. If he had aggressively prosecuted the leaks about secret prisons the much more important and damaging SWIFT and FISA leaks never would have happened, the whole Plame/Wilson fiasco of lies would have been defended much more aggressively, and Scooter Libby might not have been caught in a perjury trap. Obviously the CIA leakers cannot be trusted by any President, and Panetta&#8217;s first job is going to be to hamstring and drive them out of the CIA.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Erickson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to agree with you, but very recently changed my mind.</description>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here is where I agree with you - things being as they are these days, intel experience seems secondary to political experience. Dems have made intel political, now and forever more. In Obama&#039;s opinion, CIA needs a savvy advocate and it needs to become more loyal to the President (don&#039;t think Obama didn&#039;t notice the leaks). They may have that handled in Panetta.

But I keep coming back to this point - picking Panetta is pure capitulation. It is capitulation to the left and it is capitulation to the terrorists, and it is a signal that CIA has become a primarily a political organization. Sure, the upper levels of the CIA are against doing their jobs, but those above them and many below them know that what they have been doing for the past seven years is right, and this has kept the loudmouths in the shadows.

This appointment sends a clear signal to everyone that CIA and the war on terror are now secondary. I am surprised that CIA director is still a cabinet position in the Obama administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is where I agree with you &#8211; things being as they are these days, intel experience seems secondary to political experience. Dems have made intel political, now and forever more. In Obama&#8217;s opinion, CIA needs a savvy advocate and it needs to become more loyal to the President (don&#8217;t think Obama didn&#8217;t notice the leaks). They may have that handled in Panetta.</p>
<p>But I keep coming back to this point &#8211; picking Panetta is pure capitulation. It is capitulation to the left and it is capitulation to the terrorists, and it is a signal that CIA has become a primarily a political organization. Sure, the upper levels of the CIA are against doing their jobs, but those above them and many below them know that what they have been doing for the past seven years is right, and this has kept the loudmouths in the shadows.</p>
<p>This appointment sends a clear signal to everyone that CIA and the war on terror are now secondary. I am surprised that CIA director is still a cabinet position in the Obama administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the reasons government workforces tend Democrat.  It is safer to be a Democrat and to be uncooperative with Republican Administrations, or at minimum, to not be very enthusiastic about carrying out Republican initiatives - or any iniative that powerful Democrat interests oppose.  Every Democrat interest group in the Country has handed BHO&#039;s transition teams a hit list of the federal employees who have given them trouble, auditors, inspectors, investigators, administrators, contract and grant officers.  At minimum, when the new boss shows up he or she is going to call those people in and tell them all about the powerful interests that want them fired and how doing his bidding is the only thing between them and unemployment.  Since the unions will have supported the Democrat, they aren&#039;t going to help an employee that is crossthreaded with a Democrat Administration, at least not that kind of crossthreaded.  The Merit System processes won&#039;t protect the employee because they are run by appointees that will side with the Administration.  So, an employee fired under these circumstances can only sue using his own money.  In capital cities it is hard to even get a lawyer to represent you against the government, because they don&#039;t want to get crossthreaded with the Administration either.

Frankly, the safest thing a government employee can do is make a career of doing as little as possible, attracting as little attention as possible, and living long enough to collect the retirement check.  The reason for that fact is Democrats, not Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the reasons government workforces tend Democrat.  It is safer to be a Democrat and to be uncooperative with Republican Administrations, or at minimum, to not be very enthusiastic about carrying out Republican initiatives &#8211; or any iniative that powerful Democrat interests oppose.  Every Democrat interest group in the Country has handed BHO&#8217;s transition teams a hit list of the federal employees who have given them trouble, auditors, inspectors, investigators, administrators, contract and grant officers.  At minimum, when the new boss shows up he or she is going to call those people in and tell them all about the powerful interests that want them fired and how doing his bidding is the only thing between them and unemployment.  Since the unions will have supported the Democrat, they aren&#8217;t going to help an employee that is crossthreaded with a Democrat Administration, at least not that kind of crossthreaded.  The Merit System processes won&#8217;t protect the employee because they are run by appointees that will side with the Administration.  So, an employee fired under these circumstances can only sue using his own money.  In capital cities it is hard to even get a lawyer to represent you against the government, because they don&#8217;t want to get crossthreaded with the Administration either.</p>
<p>Frankly, the safest thing a government employee can do is make a career of doing as little as possible, attracting as little attention as possible, and living long enough to collect the retirement check.  The reason for that fact is Democrats, not Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They weren&#039;t there 10 years ago.  With the cozy relationships that Russia, Iran and China are building with Chavez, doesn&#039;t it seem more likely that we will be looking at attacks from some quarter other than just al Qaeda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They weren&#8217;t there 10 years ago.  With the cozy relationships that Russia, Iran and China are building with Chavez, doesn&#8217;t it seem more likely that we will be looking at attacks from some quarter other than just al Qaeda?</p>
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		<title>By: Streiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Streiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To do something active entails risk that something bad will happen. When you look at the clown car that rolled up to kidnap the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/04/AR2005120400885_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;muslim cleric off a Milan street&lt;/a&gt; you have to acknowledge that risk goes us exponentially with the frequency with which you carry it out.

You could also look at the progress we&#039;ve made in military operations and conclude that it will be a long time before al Qaeda could organize anything significant against us, though they could do so against various European countries at any time. That, however, is not your issue if you are the US president.

So if you want to minimize the risk of bad things for your two terms I think you can safely reduce covert actions.

The real impact of that will come a decade or so from now when they&#039;ve had a chance to reconstitute and reorganize. Just remember, it took about 20 years for them to get around to taking a shot at us on 9/11, they can wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To do something active entails risk that something bad will happen. When you look at the clown car that rolled up to kidnap the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/04/AR2005120400885_pf.html" rel="nofollow">muslim cleric off a Milan street</a> you have to acknowledge that risk goes us exponentially with the frequency with which you carry it out.</p>
<p>You could also look at the progress we&#8217;ve made in military operations and conclude that it will be a long time before al Qaeda could organize anything significant against us, though they could do so against various European countries at any time. That, however, is not your issue if you are the US president.</p>
<p>So if you want to minimize the risk of bad things for your two terms I think you can safely reduce covert actions.</p>
<p>The real impact of that will come a decade or so from now when they&#8217;ve had a chance to reconstitute and reorganize. Just remember, it took about 20 years for them to get around to taking a shot at us on 9/11, they can wait.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOME calculation on the part of those who will be in charge that, if we get hit during the O administration and it can be shown that safeguards were deliberately dismantled that led to the attack(s), then O gets the blame?  If they want to succeed and go two terms, don&#039;t they by definition HAVE to keep us safe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOME calculation on the part of those who will be in charge that, if we get hit during the O administration and it can be shown that safeguards were deliberately dismantled that led to the attack(s), then O gets the blame?  If they want to succeed and go two terms, don&#8217;t they by definition HAVE to keep us safe?</p>
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		<title>By: 10ksnooker</title>
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		<dc:creator>10ksnooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Commies will never be rooted out afterwards.</description>
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		<title>By: Streiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Streiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>having said that, I&#039;m certainly not convinced that an Obama CIA is going to step in to fill the gap regardless of who is in charge because their whole culture is risk averse.

If Obama wanted them to fill the gap, Panetta would be a better choice than someone from inside the agency who would be against the notion from the outset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having said that, I&#8217;m certainly not convinced that an Obama CIA is going to step in to fill the gap regardless of who is in charge because their whole culture is risk averse.</p>
<p>If Obama wanted them to fill the gap, Panetta would be a better choice than someone from inside the agency who would be against the notion from the outset.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>those same actions that have kept us safe will be allowed to continue?  Given that Robert Gates is still SecDef, can we count on anything approaching the same level of pro-active protection that we have seen over the past 8 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those same actions that have kept us safe will be allowed to continue?  Given that Robert Gates is still SecDef, can we count on anything approaching the same level of pro-active protection that we have seen over the past 8 years?</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy to have an inconsequential nobody like Panetta in charge of the CIA, I would be even happier if the congress dissolved the CIA.

The CIA is a do-nothing, asinine, ideological left, career bureaucrat dumping ground.  They were wrong about nearly everything during the cold war, and have gotten nothing right about jihad.(when they were not actively conspiring with the state department to undermine the president.

I refer you to a good book by John Diamond. The CIA and the Culture of Failure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy to have an inconsequential nobody like Panetta in charge of the CIA, I would be even happier if the congress dissolved the CIA.</p>
<p>The CIA is a do-nothing, asinine, ideological left, career bureaucrat dumping ground.  They were wrong about nearly everything during the cold war, and have gotten nothing right about jihad.(when they were not actively conspiring with the state department to undermine the president.</p>
<p>I refer you to a good book by John Diamond. The CIA and the Culture of Failure</p>
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		<title>By: Streiff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Streiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to reiterate my postion

1. The senior career people at CIA are hostile to the War on Terror. They have demonstrated that consistently via their leaks, books, etc. If you want the War on Terror to continue to be prosecuted as anything other than a law enforcement action, choosing a DCI who came up through the agency is not the way to go.

2. GHW Bush&#039;s first intelligence job was as DCI. When selected he was head of the RNC. I&#039;m not saying Panetta is GHW Bush but I am saying that GHW Bush was better than Stansfield Turner (military intelligence background) or George Tenet (homegrown CIA). As I pointed out yesterday, when you look at the accomplishments/failures of the CIA they are totally unrelated to the DCI&#039;s background.

To the meat of the matter. If something bad does happen, who would you rather be in charge of the CIA? A career professional who will be tossed under the bus or a politically connected insider who will at least provide some amusement while thumping around the rear duals? (I use the worst case example not because I am hoping for an attack but only because I assume Obama will take credit for any and all successes regardless of who is in charge.)

For the record, I don&#039;t think the CIA has kept us safe and I don&#039;t think they are capable of keeping us safe. Given their reduced role under the current DNI framework, the head of CIA is a lot less relevant than who is the DNI. 

I think what has kept us safe is the extraordinary covert capability developed by USSOCOM, the fact that we are stationing military covert action teams in assorted countries, and our large scale and active presence in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Horn of Africa which had deprived transnational terror organizations of funds and safe havens for training camps and planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to reiterate my postion</p>
<p>1. The senior career people at CIA are hostile to the War on Terror. They have demonstrated that consistently via their leaks, books, etc. If you want the War on Terror to continue to be prosecuted as anything other than a law enforcement action, choosing a DCI who came up through the agency is not the way to go.</p>
<p>2. GHW Bush&#8217;s first intelligence job was as DCI. When selected he was head of the RNC. I&#8217;m not saying Panetta is GHW Bush but I am saying that GHW Bush was better than Stansfield Turner (military intelligence background) or George Tenet (homegrown CIA). As I pointed out yesterday, when you look at the accomplishments/failures of the CIA they are totally unrelated to the DCI&#8217;s background.</p>
<p>To the meat of the matter. If something bad does happen, who would you rather be in charge of the CIA? A career professional who will be tossed under the bus or a politically connected insider who will at least provide some amusement while thumping around the rear duals? (I use the worst case example not because I am hoping for an attack but only because I assume Obama will take credit for any and all successes regardless of who is in charge.)</p>
<p>For the record, I don&#8217;t think the CIA has kept us safe and I don&#8217;t think they are capable of keeping us safe. Given their reduced role under the current DNI framework, the head of CIA is a lot less relevant than who is the DNI. </p>
<p>I think what has kept us safe is the extraordinary covert capability developed by USSOCOM, the fact that we are stationing military covert action teams in assorted countries, and our large scale and active presence in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Horn of Africa which had deprived transnational terror organizations of funds and safe havens for training camps and planning.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is an incompetent boob who has no experience.  He is a politician who knows how to get elected and how to reward his buddies - a lesson learned well in the cesspool of Chicago politics.

As you imply, America may soon learn the sad lesson of electing nothing more than a slogan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is an incompetent boob who has no experience.  He is a politician who knows how to get elected and how to reward his buddies &#8211; a lesson learned well in the cesspool of Chicago politics.</p>
<p>As you imply, America may soon learn the sad lesson of electing nothing more than a slogan.</p>
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