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	<title>Comments on: Mr. Burris Goes to Washington [UPDATED]</title>
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		<title>By: Patricia_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, perhaps you ARE right... However, I am having considerable difficulty (as I am sure you are) accepting this unfortunate turn of events.
I have nothing against Mr. Burris. In truth, I am not familiar enough with him to put forth a qualified judgment.
But I can say, with all honesty, that it is truly sad that this man who (as Charles Krauthammer described tonight on FOX) has been &quot;reaching for the brass ring all of his life&quot; must, out of desperation to snag it, accept the appointment of a man who (only a few days ago) barely considered him as a qualified choice for this position in the senate.
It is unfortunate that Mr. Burris is so obsessed with obtaining this seat, would lower himself to this level.
I cannot help but wish that he would have passed on this appointment and suggested for himself that the people of Illinois be given the opportunity to give HIM the chance to EARN this position with honor... for that is the only way Mr. Burris will ever obtain pride in the accomplishment he has been striving for.

Please accept my apology if I at any point during this exchange appeared to be disrespectful of your argument.
You put forth many good points... positions, which are difficult for me to accept.
Let us hope that this matter will be resolved in such a way where our country will benefit.
Thank you for your tolerance of my disappointments in this frustrating (and irritatingly ongoing) moment in our political birth pains...
Happy New Year!
(Emphasis, I hope, on the word NEW!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, perhaps you ARE right&#8230; However, I am having considerable difficulty (as I am sure you are) accepting this unfortunate turn of events.<br />
I have nothing against Mr. Burris. In truth, I am not familiar enough with him to put forth a qualified judgment.<br />
But I can say, with all honesty, that it is truly sad that this man who (as Charles Krauthammer described tonight on FOX) has been &#8220;reaching for the brass ring all of his life&#8221; must, out of desperation to snag it, accept the appointment of a man who (only a few days ago) barely considered him as a qualified choice for this position in the senate.<br />
It is unfortunate that Mr. Burris is so obsessed with obtaining this seat, would lower himself to this level.<br />
I cannot help but wish that he would have passed on this appointment and suggested for himself that the people of Illinois be given the opportunity to give HIM the chance to EARN this position with honor&#8230; for that is the only way Mr. Burris will ever obtain pride in the accomplishment he has been striving for.</p>
<p>Please accept my apology if I at any point during this exchange appeared to be disrespectful of your argument.<br />
You put forth many good points&#8230; positions, which are difficult for me to accept.<br />
Let us hope that this matter will be resolved in such a way where our country will benefit.<br />
Thank you for your tolerance of my disappointments in this frustrating (and irritatingly ongoing) moment in our political birth pains&#8230;<br />
Happy New Year!<br />
(Emphasis, I hope, on the word NEW!)</p>
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		<title>By: jdub19</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdub19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this really has nothing to do with Chicago..

I&#039;m glad we are on the same team though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this really has nothing to do with Chicago..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad we are on the same team though.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that will be why Burris will not become senator.

While the senate does not have the legal right to adjust &quot;qualifications&quot; to prevent Burris from being seated, legal experts say the Senate DOES have the right to look into whether a senator&#039;s election or appointment was valid and lawful.

According to an article in the LA Times:

&quot;It&#039;s true the Senate cannot add qualifications, but it has to recognize an election or a selection as valid,&quot; said Trevor Potter, a Washington lawyer and former chairman of the Federal Election Commission. &quot;If it has questions about that, such as after a contested election and a recount, the senators can delay a decision on seating and defer the issue to a committee.&quot;

In Wednesday&#039;s letter to Blagojevich, the Senate Democrats warned the governor against choosing a new senator, but they did not flatly refuse to seat such an appointee.

&quot;Please understand that should you decide to ignore [our] request . . . we would be forced to exercise our constitutional authority under Article I, Section 5, to determine whether such a person should be seated,&quot; the letter said.

This provision is the one the Supreme Court described in 1969 as having a narrow scope. It says: &quot;Each house shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members.&quot;

As it stands, ALL of the democratic senators have said they will refuse to seat Burris. After that, the best hope Burris has of maintaining his appointment would be to go to court and challenge the decision as unconstitutional.

At that point, it will be a matter of how much money Burris wants to spend to claim a seat in the senate where he is clearly unwelcomed to represent the people of Chicago, who have repeatedly refused to elect him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that will be why Burris will not become senator.</p>
<p>While the senate does not have the legal right to adjust &#8220;qualifications&#8221; to prevent Burris from being seated, legal experts say the Senate DOES have the right to look into whether a senator&#8217;s election or appointment was valid and lawful.</p>
<p>According to an article in the LA Times:</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s true the Senate cannot add qualifications, but it has to recognize an election or a selection as valid,&#8221; said Trevor Potter, a Washington lawyer and former chairman of the Federal Election Commission. &#8220;If it has questions about that, such as after a contested election and a recount, the senators can delay a decision on seating and defer the issue to a committee.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Wednesday&#8217;s letter to Blagojevich, the Senate Democrats warned the governor against choosing a new senator, but they did not flatly refuse to seat such an appointee.</p>
<p>&#8220;Please understand that should you decide to ignore [our] request . . . we would be forced to exercise our constitutional authority under Article I, Section 5, to determine whether such a person should be seated,&#8221; the letter said.</p>
<p>This provision is the one the Supreme Court described in 1969 as having a narrow scope. It says: &#8220;Each house shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members.&#8221;</p>
<p>As it stands, ALL of the democratic senators have said they will refuse to seat Burris. After that, the best hope Burris has of maintaining his appointment would be to go to court and challenge the decision as unconstitutional.</p>
<p>At that point, it will be a matter of how much money Burris wants to spend to claim a seat in the senate where he is clearly unwelcomed to represent the people of Chicago, who have repeatedly refused to elect him.</p>
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		<title>By: jdub19</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdub19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>respectfully, you are wrong.

He lost elections at specific points in time...period.

This is about the people of my state not wanting a crook to appoint the next US Senator of our state.

We lost the edge in that battle because the elected acted like wussies and didn&#039;t act fast enough.

Because of that, we now have a appointment of a qualified person, made by a scumbag Gov, but done legally and within his right.

Now that real fight begins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>respectfully, you are wrong.</p>
<p>He lost elections at specific points in time&#8230;period.</p>
<p>This is about the people of my state not wanting a crook to appoint the next US Senator of our state.</p>
<p>We lost the edge in that battle because the elected acted like wussies and didn&#8217;t act fast enough.</p>
<p>Because of that, we now have a appointment of a qualified person, made by a scumbag Gov, but done legally and within his right.</p>
<p>Now that real fight begins</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that the people of Chicago and many powerful people in government do not WANT Mr. Burris to become senator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that the people of Chicago and many powerful people in government do not WANT Mr. Burris to become senator.</p>
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		<title>By: blh1976</title>
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		<dc:creator>blh1976</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let the dems keep this up for the next 4 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let the dems keep this up for the next 4 years.</p>
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		<title>By: jdub19</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdub19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the don&#039;t.

He was beaten in elections....it remains to be see if it will happen with an appointment...

Again...this is not about Roland Burris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>He was beaten in elections&#8230;.it remains to be see if it will happen with an appointment&#8230;</p>
<p>Again&#8230;this is not about Roland Burris</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia_C</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15313</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they have refused to elect Burris for mayor... governor... AND senator, for EVERY attempt Mr. Burris has made to these offices.

He was beaten SOUNDLY... EVERY time...

Do you honestly believe the people of Chicago are going to be happy with having Roland Burris (a man they consistantly refuse to elect) forced upon them by a man who is humiliating them on a daily basis... especially after Blagojavich stated he would allowthem to decide for themselves in a special election?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they have refused to elect Burris for mayor&#8230; governor&#8230; AND senator, for EVERY attempt Mr. Burris has made to these offices.</p>
<p>He was beaten SOUNDLY&#8230; EVERY time&#8230;</p>
<p>Do you honestly believe the people of Chicago are going to be happy with having Roland Burris (a man they consistantly refuse to elect) forced upon them by a man who is humiliating them on a daily basis&#8230; especially after Blagojavich stated he would allowthem to decide for themselves in a special election?</p>
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		<title>By: jdub19</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdub19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this sucks big time, but I really don&#039;t see any way around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this sucks big time, but I really don&#8217;t see any way around it.</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the Secretary of State doesn&#039;t have a leg to stand on here. No doubt he is trying to take one for the team so it doesn&#039;t come down to the Senate. I wonder if he has already talked to the bidders and arranged for payment for his services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the Secretary of State doesn&#8217;t have a leg to stand on here. No doubt he is trying to take one for the team so it doesn&#8217;t come down to the Senate. I wonder if he has already talked to the bidders and arranged for payment for his services.</p>
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		<title>By: jdub19</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15310</link>
		<dc:creator>jdub19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blago is on solid legal ground right now...is he not?

It&#039;s funny, the silliest of all in this was Lisa Madigan trying from the outset to get him declared &quot;unfit&quot;...as it turns out, that was the best chance to block this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blago is on solid legal ground right now&#8230;is he not?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny, the silliest of all in this was Lisa Madigan trying from the outset to get him declared &#8220;unfit&#8221;&#8230;as it turns out, that was the best chance to block this!</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia_C</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15309</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Illinois Secretary of State, Jesse White, is refusing to certify the appointment.

all 50 democratic senators have said they will refuse to seat him.

That&#039;s 51 people on record so far and it has only been a few hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Illinois Secretary of State, Jesse White, is refusing to certify the appointment.</p>
<p>all 50 democratic senators have said they will refuse to seat him.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s 51 people on record so far and it has only been a few hours.</p>
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		<title>By: jdub19</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15305</link>
		<dc:creator>jdub19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please....I have to hear how this will happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please&#8230;.I have to hear how this will happen?</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15301</link>
		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They just change their minds. I&#039;m sure the only reason they came out with that letter was that they were somehow mislead by the Bush administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just change their minds. I&#8217;m sure the only reason they came out with that letter was that they were somehow mislead by the Bush administration.</p>
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		<title>By: jdub19</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15300</link>
		<dc:creator>jdub19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was more or less saying how is ANYONE going to stop this?  They can&#039;t.

No one will attack RB....however, I do think that since the race card was thrown down, any attempt to NOT SEAT RB will be dealt with in the light of race....period.

Brilliant move ...scumbaggary, but brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was more or less saying how is ANYONE going to stop this?  They can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>No one will attack RB&#8230;.however, I do think that since the race card was thrown down, any attempt to NOT SEAT RB will be dealt with in the light of race&#8230;.period.</p>
<p>Brilliant move &#8230;scumbaggary, but brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Kowalski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15299</link>
		<dc:creator>Kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), Majority Whip Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), Conference Chairman Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Conference Secretary Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) have all pledged IN WRITING, and in the press,  that they will not seat Burris.

It&#039;s a statement of unequivocal fact, published by them and promulgated by the Washington Post.

If Burris is seated, all of those people are simply grandiose public liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), Majority Whip Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), Conference Chairman Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Conference Secretary Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Chairman Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) have all pledged IN WRITING, and in the press,  that they will not seat Burris.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a statement of unequivocal fact, published by them and promulgated by the Washington Post.</p>
<p>If Burris is seated, all of those people are simply grandiose public liars.</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15298</link>
		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It works for Obama every day. It worked for Clinton. It&#039;ll work just as well for the rest of the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works for Obama every day. It worked for Clinton. It&#8217;ll work just as well for the rest of the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia_C</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15297</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All 50 Democratic senators and public officials throughout Illinoishave made it clear that &quot;anyone appointed by Gov. Blagojevich cannot be an effective representative of the people of Illinois&quot; and &quot;will not be seated by the Democratic Caucus.&quot;

All we have to do is sit back and watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All 50 Democratic senators and public officials throughout Illinoishave made it clear that &#8220;anyone appointed by Gov. Blagojevich cannot be an effective representative of the people of Illinois&#8221; and &#8220;will not be seated by the Democratic Caucus.&#8221;</p>
<p>All we have to do is sit back and watch.</p>
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		<title>By: zuiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets just say seeing through the BS is not their strong suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets just say seeing through the BS is not their strong suit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kowalski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/30/mr-burris-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-15295</link>
		<dc:creator>Kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the unequivocal statement that sets this up as such an enormously divisive act:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We say this without prejudice toward Roland Burris&#039;s ability, and we respect his years of public service. But this is not about Mr. Burris; it is about the integrity of a governor accused of attempting to sell this United States Senate seat. Under these circumstances, anyone appointed by Gov. Blagojevich cannot be an effective representative of the people of Illinois and, as we have said, &lt;strong&gt;will not be seated by the Democratic Caucus.&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;  Emphasis mine.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/12/30/reports_blagojevich_to_appoint.html?hpid=topnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If they seat Burris, they&#039;ve all just admitted in the pages of the Washington Post that every single one of them is a liar, on the public record.&lt;/a&gt;

Now, we can imagine scenarios where everyone mentioned in that article being demonstrated as a liar to the public, in the press, in the pages of a newspaper favorable to Liberals, would not matter.  

But if that&#039;s the point we&#039;ve reached before this next President and Congress even take office, there&#039;s not much left to speak of in terms of this Republic anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the unequivocal statement that sets this up as such an enormously divisive act:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We say this without prejudice toward Roland Burris&#8217;s ability, and we respect his years of public service. But this is not about Mr. Burris; it is about the integrity of a governor accused of attempting to sell this United States Senate seat. Under these circumstances, anyone appointed by Gov. Blagojevich cannot be an effective representative of the people of Illinois and, as we have said, <strong>will not be seated by the Democratic Caucus.</strong>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>  Emphasis mine.</p>
<p><a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/12/30/reports_blagojevich_to_appoint.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">If they seat Burris, they&#8217;ve all just admitted in the pages of the Washington Post that every single one of them is a liar, on the public record.</a></p>
<p>Now, we can imagine scenarios where everyone mentioned in that article being demonstrated as a liar to the public, in the press, in the pages of a newspaper favorable to Liberals, would not matter.  </p>
<p>But if that&#8217;s the point we&#8217;ve reached before this next President and Congress even take office, there&#8217;s not much left to speak of in terms of this Republic anyway.</p>
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