In Support of Israel


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Two days ago, Israel launched a massive counter-offensive against the Hamas terrorist stronghold in Gaza. Apparently learning from the failed strategy of the Lebanon war against Hezbollah in the summer of 2006, the Israelis are not depending on the rationality of their enemy. Instead of assuming that Hamas would want to protect Palestinian civilians and avoid unnecessary casualties, the Israelis are, rightly, assuming the opposite this time. They understand that Hamas, like Hezbollah, is using innocent civilians as a cover to allow them to continue to rain rockets into Israel without fear of retaliation. And if that cover must be blown in order to stop this deadly hail of terror, then sobeit. That is the choice of Hamas.

The Israeli offensive has touched off the standard outrage. Violent riots, ostensibly in support of the terrorists, convulse the capitals of Europe. The Secretary General of the United Nations calls for an immediate ceasefire. An Israeli flag has been burned in Jordan’s parliament. Here in the US, the usual suspects cry out against Israel’s “crimes” and decare solidarity with the Palestinian victims.

We declare no such solidarity with the murdrous terrorists who have provoked this conflict. As a group we declare our support for our tiny friend and ally of Israel, that embattled bastion of democracy and prosperity in the Middle East. While we mourn the deaths of those civilians who were turned into targets by their own puported leaders, we hope this action will result in a new understanding by the Palestinians that terror is not a viable road to independence. Now that Hamas has provoked this war, we pray that the Israelis have the fortitude to root their evil out of Gaza once and for all, and that in the aftermath, with Hamas gone, real progress towards peace can be made.



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Hear, hear.

Bill S (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 2:59PM EST (link)

Agree 1000%.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

Amen and amen. My prayers are that God will

janis (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 3:01PM EST (link)

protect the innocent and put the guilty in a bull’s eye target. Beyond that, I hope right along with the rest of you that Israel gets the job done once and for all.

And please God don’t let anyone hurl any nukes over this.

 

yep...

davidingeorgia Monday, December 29th at 3:02PM EST (link)

…and, if someone wants to start one, I’d be perfectly willing to contribute to a Bulldozers for Peace fund to help buy the Israeli army more Caterpillars if they don’t have enough to finish the job that their air force has started.

 

Dang straight -- you go, Israel - nt

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 3:09PM EST (link)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

Ditto (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 3:39PM EST (link)

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Ditto

Deleteme (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 4:13PM EST (link)

May the world stand with Israel as they fight the tough fight against terrorism.

 

Ditto

Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 4:38PM EST (link)

Rock their socks, Israel.

 

I will always stand with Israel!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:02PM EST (link)

I am looking for them to CRUSH those animals in the Gaza strip who would put their women and children on the front lines to up the civilian casualties….enough is enough and I hope they move on to Iran next before The Messiah leaves them for dead as of Jan. 20th.

It’s now or never….Israel please give your people back their security and safety DO NOT BACK DOWN!

 

I only hope the Israelis finish the job this time

Raven (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:16PM EST (link)

But that’s going to depend on them having what it takes to live with what they know needs to be done. ALL of what needs to be done.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

What do you mean by "ALL"?

dt (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:20PM EST (link)

Invading and destroying Syria

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:24PM EST (link)

in my opinion.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

War monger. nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:25PM EST (link)

heh, heh

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:30PM EST (link)

or as they say, takes one to know one!

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

ME??? No.

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:35PM EST (link)

I’m just a simple capitalist investor with holdings in a paving company and an asphalt firm. It’s just about the money.

Heh.

 
 
 

BTW, with respect to Syria...

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:39PM EST (link)

I’ve felt for a long time that one of our diplomats should give the Syrian “leader” a scrap of paper with the GPS coordinates of the central office of Hezbollah in downtown Damascus and tell him he’s got about about 15 minutes to get any “civilians” out of the way of a new urban renewal project that will be happening shortly. And just so nobody misunderstands me, give him the coordinates AFTER launch and about 15 minutes prior to impact.

Hmmm

Erick Brockway (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 9:35PM EST (link)

He’d probably tell the neighborhood kids “Free candy inside! Hurry!”
And then call the BBC office.

And I'd retarget in flight to the BBC coordinates

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:09PM EST (link)

and launch another one. Always take the highest priority target when possible.

 
 
 
 

My vote for "ALL" would be

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:24PM EST (link)

turning Gaza into a parking lot. Followed by a good chunk of Lebanon.

LOL

Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:26PM EST (link)

And then we can build a chain trendy, overpriced restaurant to put in the parking lot! It sounds positively delightful.

 
 

Leveling gaza, finishing the job (nt)

Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:27PM EST (link)

As is common knowledge, the bad guys are using "innocents" as shields

Raven (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:40PM EST (link)

(scare quotes being because I doubt all that many are really innocent in this fight)

This means that to kill the bad guys, the Israelis are going to have to kill a lot of noncombatants, including women and children, and leave almost every person in the Gaza Strip homeless.

That is what is called a “necessary evil.” For evil though it is to do these things, it MUST be done to eliminate the greater evil of Hamas.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

I would argue a couple of points.

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:48PM EST (link)

First, I wouldn’t classify extensive military ops in Gaza that result in huge casualty numbers either “evil” or “bad”.

Second, I wouldn’t call it a “necessary evil”, I’d call it “national survival”.

Third, the UN and EUWeenies can go piss up a rope.

Golda, bless her, was right. The war in the middle east will stop when Palestinians (and their enablers) care more about their children than they do about the destruction of Israel.

That is the only time any war has ever ended

Raven (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 8:02PM EST (link)

Ever.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

 
 

When you have Palestinian mothers having birthday parties

janis (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:51PM EST (link)

for their babies and dressing them up proudly as little suicide bombers, then the only truly innocent ones are helpless and misinformed children. Who, if they live long enough, grow up to become terrorists themselves.

Thats the true tragedy. No thinks of the children

gekster (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 9:43PM EST (link)

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved

Sure they do, gekster, they think of them as

janis (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 9:59PM EST (link)

pawns to be used to best advantage. And that’s the sole reason they place their broken bodies and their stuffed animals and toys where creeps like the AP can photograph them for purposes of world outrage. Unlike them, they know that much of the “civilized” world cherishes children, and so they play us.

The deepest pits of Hell are not nearly deep enough for those who torture babies.

 
 
 
 
 
 

5^? (nt)

kowalski (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:37PM EST (link)

If that unicode isn't coming through

kowalski (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 5:40PM EST (link)

In the subject line, if the unicode isn’t showing up:

The “?” is the symbol for infinity.

 
 

God bless Israel and all of God's people

Elizabeth Christian (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 6:14PM EST (link)

Thank you Redstate so much for posting this. Very mean people have attacked Israel and tried to say that Israel should not exist. Israel must protect itself and we must stand side by side with them and pray for them.

I wish the bill before Congress which would help divest money from 401K’s and move that money to other investments – which would take the money out of the companies that support Iran and others who wish harm to Israel and the United States of America – this would bring Iran to it’s knees and the Iranian people could overtake Iran and have new leadership which would be more friendly to the world. I wish that bill would pass. That would be real change – Congress had a chance with all their special sessions when they were printing money making us more poor – they could have passed important bills such as the one mentioned above!!!

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
~Benjamin Franklin

 

Jews vote for Odummer

10ksnooker (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 6:41PM EST (link)

Odummer votes present.

Let's pull back on the namecalling

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 8:11PM EST (link)

We don’t want to fall into the bad habits the left fell into, you know?

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What a pisser!

Tbone (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 7:18PM EST (link)

Here Obama is stuck in Hawaii because of bad weather in Chicago and unable to resolve this conflict thereby losing out on all the revenue from sales of the “Obama Palistinian Peace Commemorative Medallion”.

As for Hamas, dead works.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Ah yes, Tbone, God does indeed work in mysterious ways.

janis (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 7:23PM EST (link)

Obviously, the Big Guy doesn’t think Obama needs to be meddling in this. Apparently, the Israelis agree. Smart folks.

As to marketing opportunities, you forget that there is literally NO event that won’t occasion a “Give me money now” communication from Obama and his flying monkey minions.

 

Shouldn't he be in Kenya

GregInFla (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:11PM EST (link)

helping his aunt zunie move into her new hut, the one with electricity. Maybe also help his brother dig a new latrine too? He did say he was his brother’s keeper.


– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.

 
 

God Bless

Knightbrigade Monday, December 29th at 8:26PM EST (link)

and stand STRONG ISRAEL !!!!

“From MY cold dead hands”

 

God bless Israel in their efforts

woodsman (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 8:59PM EST (link)

to rid the Mideast of a terrible plague on Gaza. Hamas consistently tries to sound like they care about people and doles out some minor social efforts to gain popular opinion for votes to legitimize their claims.

This is not a time for Israel to be swayed by polls or international opinions. The only opinion that matters is what the Israelis feel is necessary to be and feel safe.

If only some of our political leaders would grow a pair…

 

One more thing...

Elizabeth Christian (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 9:57PM EST (link)

Why is it according to the liberal press and the liberal countries around the world that when the Palestinians hurl rockets into Israel and kill truly innocent people – those liberals just ignore those actions? When Israel defends itself all of a sudden “innocent people” are being killed? Don’t get me wrong – I wish no innocent people to die – anywhere in the world. But to those who are trying to destroy Israel and God’s people may the Lord strike them down and may all of the innocent people who are God’s people may they be protected.

I thought the guy on Fox News earlier said something very powerful in response to liberal Colmes – he said so for this to be “equal force” should Israel just shoot the same amount of rockets Hamas has launched into Israel and just launch them at random targets? That would be the only way you could follow the liberals politically correct calls for “equal force”. This guy said just what I say – Israel has the right to protect Itself – may God be with Israel and may God and Israel destroy the enemies of Israel and God’s people. God bless them, they are all in my prayers.

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
~Benjamin Franklin

"Proportionality" of response...

evanm (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 8:41AM EST (link)

is a bastardization of the moral norm that one shouldn’t use more force than is necessary to stop an aggressor.

Here, Israel is doing precisely what is necessary to stop the rocket attacks, which are unacceptable to a freedom and peace loving country.

 

VDH on NRO

bk (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:08AM EST (link)

offers some “moderate proposals”. (I hope I get this right w/o preview…)

  1. Request that 50% of Israel’s air-to-ground missiles be duds to ensure greater proportionality.
  2. Allow Hamas another 1,000 free rocket launches to see if they can catch up with the body count.
  3. Have Israeli soldiers congregate in border barracks so that Hamas’s random rockets have a better chance of killing military personnel, to ensure it can claim at least a few military targets.
  4. Redefine “holocaust” to refer to deaths of terrorists in numbers under 400 to give greater credence to Hamas’s current claims.
  5. In the interest of fairness, allow Hamas to establish both the date that war is supposed to begin and the date when it must end.
  6. Send Israeli military advisers to Hamas to improve the accuracy of their missiles.
  7. Take down the barriers to return to Hamas a fair chance of getting suicide bombers back inside Israel.
 
 

A strong Israel

Warner Todd Huston (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:16PM EST (link)

Here is to a strong and safe Israel.

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Cheers folks..... I said my piece on the "RedState Users" diary.

Kenny Solomon (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 10:26PM EST (link)

Hopefully Bush and Rice will keep

olsmithie (Diary) Monday, December 29th at 11:21PM EST (link)

their nose out of the situation.

Every time the terrorists run out of munitions or things start going badly for them, the White house has insisted they be given time to rearm, which they have done every time.

Let the IDF do what they do best and there may be a lasting peace, at least for a while.

There is no honor in hiding behind women and children, but considering the cowards doing the hiding, I guess that makes sense.

Regards

If McCain had won, then Bush and Rice might have some

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:26AM EST (link)

bargaining power here. I’m betting that since O won, the Israelis see the handwriting on the wall, know they are closer to being on their own than they’ve been in a long time, and will conduct themselves as they see fit.

Let's hope so. But frankly, Bush/Powell & Bush/Rice

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:16AM EST (link)

have never done anything that would classify them as “friends” to Israel.

 
 
 

Original Sin, my friends. Original Sin...

Crowe (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:29AM EST (link)

Enemies will be among us as long as breath is ours. Hamas (and/or other anti-Israel groups) will be among the Israelis as long as that nation-state exists. Sin will be among us until the Second Coming. Israel may (and should) reduce the threat to its well-being represented by Hamas, but it will never be free of that threat.

“We sleep soundly in our beds only because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm Dear Leader Obama gives us leave to do so.”

 

Consertives shoud not support Isreal blindly

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 8:40AM EST (link)

I think as conservatives we not be should supporting Israel blindly. You remember how uncritical of Bush we were while Baghdad was being looted and US soldiers stood idly by. The same weapons and ammunitions that were looted were later then used to kill thousands of the US and coalition soldiers. While I don’t have any sympathy with the peace-hating Hamas and their godfathers in Iran and Syria I don’t support hard-line Jews either. Israel has continued to build settlements in the West Bank even as it pretends to want to achieve peace with Palestinians. I think it will not be easy for the US to broker a peace settlement between Israel and Palestine until we stop supporting Israel blindly and stop borrowing money from China and give it as aid to Israel

jokager

Spare us your whine about not supporting Israel blindly...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 8:44AM EST (link)

If someone is threatening the very lives of your family with missiles on a daily basis and you don’t KILL THEM you are a wimp and I would suggest that is exactly what you are.

Israel needs to CRUSH those animals who place their women and children amongst their ammo dumps!

 

Who is this "we" you speak of? (nt)

zuiko (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 8:52AM EST (link)

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

 

Conservatives don't "blindly" support Israel.

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:13AM EST (link)

We do it with our eyes wide open.

Israel needs to continue attacking them until Hamas begs them to stop.

That’s my idea of a measured response.

The fact that you can’t even spell Israel puts your conservative credentials in serious doubt.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 

Fortunately, those "hard-line Jews" of which you speak

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:19AM EST (link)

don’t need to the approval of a**hats like you to get the job done. As zuiko said as well– don’t include us in your “we”.

Fortunately, those "hard-line Jews" of which you speak

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 9:28AM EST (link)

You know, those who think that Palestinians should not have their own state just like those Hamas terrorists who believe that Israel should not exist in the Middle East!

jokager

You're moving into "Hinz Rule" territory. n/t

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:37AM EST (link)
 
 

Israel, Surrendered Gaza...

rcov092 (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:54AM EST (link)

there will be no peace for the animals in Hamas until the last Jew is dead. Sorry, given that reality, Israel should not stop until they have driven them out of any territory they can reach Israel from with rockets, including Lebanon and Syria. If that included Iran, then maybe there too.

“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”

 
 

IDF launches a YouTube channel

bk (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:02AM EST (link)

http://www.youtube.com/user/idfnadesk

The 12/29 Naval one has some camera shots from the missiles – cool.

And the one where the truck is being loaded with rockets, you’ll find yourself saying, “C’mon, fire already!”

IDF launches a YouTube channel

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 9:16AM EST (link)

This is the same IDF that lost the propaganda war to Hezbollah in their last encounter. I hope they do better this times

jokager

 

What's the over/under on how long it takes for Google to take this down? .nt.

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:21AM EST (link)

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

Youtube has blocked some of the vids for "Terms of use Violation." nt

Steve Maley (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:53AM EST (link)

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

Figured it wouldn't take long. .nt.

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:54AM EST (link)

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

 

Yep, there are a handful gone now.

bk (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:02AM EST (link)

We can't have secondary explosions confirming Hamas' ill intent, now, can we? nt

Steve Maley (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:59AM EST (link)

The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.

 
 
 
 
 

Conservatives shoud not support Isreal blindly

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 9:13AM EST (link)

Jaded,

Now you are behaving like a typical liberal: Someone disagrees with your views then you attack them. I do not support the Hamas terrorists who should all be killed. But Israel should not also get a free pass from conservatives just because they are US’ only genuine ally in the Middle East. As their good friend the US should tell Israel to exit all the Palestinian land and debunk the excuse that the Hamas terrorists always use to fire missiles into Israel. By the way Israel is losing credible as a force to be feared in the Middle East because of these skirmishes they keep having with Hamas and Hezbolla terrorists and failing to crush the terrorists completely

jokager

Yeah, well stay tuned for further developements

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:22AM EST (link)

Skippy. I don’t think they are going to leave until the job is finished this time.

Hint here: Don’t call Jaded a typical liberal. She’ll crush you like a bug and you deserve it. She’s a regular here with proven conservative creds. You’re a newbie who’s already making yourself unwelcome.

My money's on moby.

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:28AM EST (link)

He can’t spell Israel without spell check (see subject vs. body of comment). It’s a dead giveaway.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

NightTwister, FTW.

Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 9:40AM EST (link)

That was my guess as well. I’ll pass it along.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 

Yeah, well stay tuned for further developements

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 9:45AM EST (link)

Sorry Jaded.

Didn’t mean to offend you. My point is that just because I had a different point of view I should not be shut down. Otherwise the conservatives will be no different than those global warming Talibans in the left-sphere. I believe that Israel has the right to exist where they are and they have the right to defend themselves against terrorists. But Israel also should withdraw to its borders prior to 1967 war except the strategic Golan heights. Israel should give the Golan back only after the terrorists in Syria have stopped threatening the existence of Israel. This is a difficult choice given that there are many Israelis who oppose giving back even an inch of the land seized during the 1967 war but sometimes to achieve peace hard choices have to be made.

jokager

Hi jokagers19, meet Happy Bunny.

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:10AM EST (link)

Hi jokagers19, meet Happy Bunny

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 10:17AM EST (link)

I see you and Keith Olbermann are great buddies!

jokager

Ohhh. You found me out. I've been outed.

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:30AM EST (link)

But anyway punkboy, when you learn the rules of rational thought and cogent argument come back. In the meantime I suspect the Israelis will likely take care of their own interests with no help from you. Or Jimmy Carter. Or Condi Rice.

You, punkboy, are an ignorant fool.

mbecker908, you grow a thicker skin....

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 10:36AM EST (link)

Hi Professor whatever,

Punkboy, moron, igrorant. Just the words Keith Olbermann love. What next, ranting mad like him.

Don’t be too sensitve man

jokager

I suggest you stop while you're behind

Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:42AM EST (link)

Your track record here thus far is not stellar. It would be best to take a timeout and ponder why you are being mocked. Otherwise, I predict your tenure will be short.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

You and Olbermann are on the same page

zuiko (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:14AM EST (link)

He doesn’t think Israel should be allowed to defend itself against a bunch of terrorists, either.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

 
 
 
 

C'mon, jokager, call mbecker a liberal next. I like fireworks to celebrate the New Year. n/t

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:22AM EST (link)

And then perhaps you’d like to set sail with Cynthia McKinney on her next humanitarian mission to Gaza. See the RedHot over to the right of the page.

 
 

Jokager, in Ozzie Guillens words: Psh, please.

Alberta (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:23AM EST (link)

The people of the world should not support USA. USA will never have peace with its Mexican and Indian populations unless it gives back all land that it took in the wars. Furthermore, unless USA returns Alaska and the Louisiana Purchase lands hostilities with Russia and France will never end.

Do you get it Jokager? Please tell me you get it.

BTW, because you seem to have not been paying attention:
Palestinian propoganda made clear that for the rockets to stop Israel had to remove its presence from Gaza.
Israel removes its presence from Gaza
Hamas gangsters continue to fire missles into Israel.

I hope this needs no further explanation, but I sense with you I may have to spell it out as you seem to ignore this reality. Hamas stands for very little. They formed a government not with the intent of serving the people of Gaza, but with the intent of using the people of Gaza as a tool to use against Israel. Hamas is only around for one thing. The destruction of Israel is its mission statement. To blame Israel for this stuff is akin to blaming the cop for giving you a speeding ticket, not yourself for speeding.

As Ive said in other diaries: The fallacy of land for peace has been exposed numerous times, this being one of them. For people to stick to it exposes them as being ignorant of the situation, of reality, unserious.

Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln

Alberta, how will peace be ever achived...

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 10:30AM EST (link)

So please educate me. How will peace ever be achieved in the Middle East. And what about the land that Isreal gave back to Egypt in return for for a peace agreement between the two countries which has stood the test of time!

jokager

Do you see the Egyptians lobbing missiles into Israel from that same land?

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:38AM EST (link)

No, you don’t. That’s the difference.

 

It's very simple you ignorant pissant.

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:39AM EST (link)

The Israelis enter into a ceasefire with Hamas/Hezbollah. They then negotiate with them, giving them everything they’re asking for including the “right of return”. They release all “political prisoners” from Israeli jails. Then as an act of good faith they disband the IDF.

That is followed in short order by French & Russian firms contracting with Hamas/Hezbollah and paid by Iran who will build a wall around Israel (to keep the Israelis in), and high temp, high speed, automated crematory ovens at various locations around the former state of Israel.

It shouldn’t take the “Palestinians” more than a couple of months to process the final solution to the problem of Israel.

And if you think for one second that Israel’s enemies want any solution other than that you’re dumber than I thought. Which would be going some.

You gave him way too much information there, becker.

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:44AM EST (link)

Processing it correctly is unlikely. (I realize that this may be partly my fault for asking you to find us a troll the other day. The first one didn’t last long, so now we get Skippy the Ignorant.)

Janis, I am crushing under the weight too much information

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 11:00AM EST (link)

Wow Janis,

I didn’t know this much. You and Becker are such wonderfull tutors that I learning so fast. I guess after a few more of you posting I will graduate from your school of closed minds

And one wonders why the Conservative brand has lost it lustre. What with pretend acceptance of diversity of opinion while along only the opinion of a few is tolerated!

jokager

"Processing it correctly is unlikely." Bingo.

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:04AM EST (link)

And I am now officially through with you. Hinz Rule rules.

 

Isn't there a Ron Paul fansite somewhere that is missing you? (nt)

zuiko (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:16AM EST (link)

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

 

And that'll do it

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:37AM EST (link)

Blam.

Petition the directors for reinstatement if you wish.

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Can somebody please put a graphic here of fireworks going off?

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:41AM EST (link)

It would be a splendid way to send this guy off in style.

This is the closest I have at the moment, janis

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:51AM EST (link)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

Thanks, EPU. Works fine for me. Hope he enjoyed it, too.!

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:22PM EST (link)
 
 
 
 
 

Wow mbecker908, you are really need a thicker skin

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 10:51AM EST (link)

And there goes a vfery thin-skinned conservative of 2008……

Mbecker908. A person who does not brook any difference of opinion.

Wouldn’t it be better to put forth your points without resorting to name-calling

jokager

bs, I don't think he takes advice very well.

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:54AM EST (link)

The child needs to go sit in the corner and not come back until he’s done some homework and has an attitude adjustment.

 

Ok, I'm calling it. Hinz Rule.

NightTwister (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:55AM EST (link)

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill

Ditto that

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:01AM EST (link)

and lovely graphic

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 
 

Jokager...you are irrelevant...

Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 10:59AM EST (link)

And your life span here will be short lived.

Your opinion is nothing more than regurgitated lefty bile.

You haven’t provided any factual basis for us to not show support for Israel.

There is nothing to dispute with you…you are just plain wrong.

Goodbye!!

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 

If you knew anything punkboy, you'd know

mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:06AM EST (link)

that I am all skin.

And I brook all sort of dissent and differences of opinion. You obviously haven’t bothered to read RS for the last two days to make an ignorant statement like that.

What I don’t “brook” is willful stupidity and you’ve showed that you are the poster boy for that in this thread. You want points, I’ll do them in single syllable words that you might understand, although I know the fundamental concept of what I’m saying will be totally lost on you.

  • Israel is surrounded by nations and people who want to destroy her.
  • Those same nations/people want to finish what the Germans started.
  • The rest of the world (maybe minus the US) will stand by, wring their hands and do nothing if given the opportunity.
  • The “Palestinians” will continue to lob rockets and children dressed as IED’s until the price gets too big.
  • Israel has to make the price for going to war with them very high.
  • There are no “non-combatants” in Gaza or the West Bank. None.
  • My recommendation to the next PM (and Bebe might just have the balls to do it) would be to flatten one square mile of urban area in Gaza, the West Bank or Lebannon every time a rocket from one of those areas land in Israel whether it injures anybody or not.
  • With any luck the Palestinians will run out of square miles before they run out of rockets.

Under no circumstances, for any reason, at any time should the Israelis ever again enter into a “peace process” that doesn’t involve several divisions of the IDF, their entire air force and every navy vessel that can fire a shot and hit land.

Becker, you remind of Becker of the tv comedy "Becker"

jokager19 Tuesday, December 30th at 11:27AM EST (link)

Always angry, all knowing Ivy Leaguer, profanity-spewing,

jokager

 

I'm on board for every bit of that

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:31AM EST (link)

nt

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

Me, too, but I didn't know becker was an Ivy Leaguer.

janis (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:36AM EST (link)

Can’t imagine he’d find that a compliment.

 
 

Wow mbecker that was well thought out and put in a manner...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:34PM EST (link)

to which even the drooling Hamas loving idiot will get it….BRAVO!

 
 
 
 
 

Study world history much?

scottbomb (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 11:20AM EST (link)

Very few, if any, countries borders today are in the same place they were 200, 500, or a 1000 years ago. History happens. Get over yourself.

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first off jokager19 when speaking to someone who thinks your an idiot...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:31PM EST (link)

please us the reply to this button…..it’s the first indicator of less brain cells than one who normally posts utilizes on Redstate. Israel has not been given a pass Israel has been under attack since the creation of the state of Israel and they have been murdered and slaughtered in their homeland and abroad because they are Jews…..they in my eyes should CRUSH and DESTROY those who would destroy them in their homelands and abroad and END it once and for all!

I would say you no nothing of the credibility of Israel and they will come out of this as they do everyone of these battles…..FINE and with a state and they will be coming for Iran next so lets see who fears whom!

He's dead, Jim (nt)

zuiko (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:36PM EST (link)

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

Jim?

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:49PM EST (link)

Jaded is a chick named Jim?

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

EPU...star trek reference....nt

Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:52PM EST (link)

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

Aaah, Bones McCoy

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 1:06PM EST (link)

I get it now (slow EPU)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 
 

Jim

zuiko (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:53PM EST (link)

Here you go

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

 
 

I :pause: knew :pause: that :pause: he would be killed off!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 1:22PM EST (link)
 
 
 

[Retread, disregard]

jokager Tuesday, December 30th at 12:43PM EST (link)

[Delete – NS]

Retreading is not going to help you Jokager....nt

Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:48PM EST (link)

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 

PREVIOUSLY-BANNED TROLL ALERT

Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:49PM EST (link)

Please do not feed the wild trolls.

Do Not Feed The Troll

By the way, Jokager, can’t you take a hint? You were banned once. Get out and stay out.

 

We already *know* stupid people have a vote

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:51PM EST (link)

We saw that Nov 4.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

It was nice of him to remind us that he is allowed to vote, though (nt)

zuiko (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:52PM EST (link)

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

 
 

At least if you are gonna bother to reregister

zuiko (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:51PM EST (link)

Come up with something better than the same “I’m a victim of the conservative taliban” garbage you already spewed in your earlier posts.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman

 

His second account

Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Tuesday, December 30th at 12:54PM EST (link)

Was registered for over a year.

I wonder how many other accounts he has.