I find it hard to believe Obama could be more disastrous at this point on the auto bailout than George Bush has been.
Jenn Rubin points out that the Senate was very close to a deal on the bailout, but Gettelfinger, the UAW head, refused to any concessions to get a deal.
Why?
Because he knew he could get everything he wanted from George Bush if the Senate killed the bailout. It’s great to know the Republican President has become the UAW’s whore.
Brilliant.
UPDATE: There is word tonight that Bush may require adherence to the terms of the Corker amendment in exchange for TARP funds. If so, I must retract my “whore” comment. If not, I stand by the comment.
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EdgeOfTheStorm (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 4:55PM EST (link)But can not disagree about the basic idea.
Having been a bush supporter for a long time, this is become a disaster.
Its time to let bad companies fail.
In this case I believe the wording fits this situation
Elizabeth Christian (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 10:24PM EST (link)What happened to Republican President George W. Bush? Has anyone considered a medical evaluation, possibly a mental evaluation? I swear I am not being mean or joking but I think there are just only a handful of explanations for President G.W. Bush’s actions (see below). I am not one of the liberal Bush haters, I tried taking up for him for a long time but what is right is right and what is wrong is wrong and all the mess our President has done since this bailout mess began – he has been WRONG!!! Some theories:
1) He has completely lost it, needs medical attention (like when Brittany Spears really lost it and had to be taken out on a stretcher and taken to a lock down unit for evaluation)???
2) He thinks this will make his “Legacy” better, as I keep hearing about his damage control to his “Legacy”. There is one problem with his strategy – the liberals will never like him, no matter what, and he is just making his base mad and driving us away too, the people in the middle will side one way or the other but not with Bush.
3) He was tricked by liberals – I thought maybe in the beginning but you can only be tricked so much before you figure out the opponents game – so I don’t think this is the case.
4) Liberals have some info. on him and extorting him to work with them on their side???
5) President G.W. Bush was a liberal the whole time???
*** I still say President G.W. Bush kept us safe after 9/11 and I thank him for that, but this bailout mess has made it hard to remember the good he has done.
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
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How can the man who took on the savages blink when confronted with spoiled children?
Alberta (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 5:09PM EST (link)I think the man is one of the worlds greatest humanitarians ever. He freed tens of millions from slavery. But domestically, theirs not much one can say in his defence.
Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
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How can the man who took on the savages blink when confronted with spoiled children?
Alberta (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 5:09PM EST (link)I think the man is one of the worlds greatest humanitarians ever. He freed tens of millions from slavery. But domestically, theirs not much one can say in his defence.
Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln
My thoughts exactly
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 5:51PM EST (link)Notice how smug the UAW has been about this whole thing?
Kill the Terrorists
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Come the Spring, you will see how much worse Obama can and will be
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 6:08PM EST (link)Bush is a terrible negotiator but he did get it down from $35B to $14B. He should have backed Corker and he should have gotten concessions like CAFTA and tax cuts and oil drilling and enviro regs, etc.
But, He is no one’s whore. That reminds me of Gamecock before a guy named Erick reminded him of decency.
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The he sucked less argument...fails
SteveLA (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 6:58PM EST (link)Game
You have a loosing argument on your hand, if “Bush sucked less than Obama does” is going to be your mantra. The Republican majority in Congress tried a version of that mantra for the election of ’06, people still voted for Donks, and voted for them again in this last election. There is a message in all that.
President Bush started walking like a Lame Duck, Quacking like a Lame Duck, and Acting like a lame Duck back when the economy cratered in late Summer. Sadly, his administration will bear the blame for the collapse of this house of cards economy, and I’m not so sure that public opinion is wrong. From all the information that has been coming out about how incredibly poorly the the Bush administration ran the regulatory side of banks over the last few years, how incredibly poorly Hank Paulson handled the initial impact and now how the President is doing this bailout of the UAW, do blame “the great decider” for this mess and there’s not a “silver lining” in sight.
I may not be looking forward to Hope and Change Obama, but I am looking forward to an address change for President Bush.
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LOL can't wait for spring
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 7:00PM EST (link)After a meeting in which they were all told that there would be no Christmas bonuses, no raises, no new hiring and no Christmas party, my husband’s boss told them all…
“Don’t worry about any of this. After January 20th, Obama will get this all under control and things will turn around.”
As an aside, my husband is the news editor at a daily paper. Who wants to tell me that there’s no media bias in this country?
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Bush is no whore. And Erick you owe an apology
mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 9:52PM EST (link)to whores. They work really hard for their money and, quite literally, do the jobs no one else will do. Bush just mails it in. The halcyon days of Jimmy Carter’s presidency are looking better and better every day.
Anyway, in the name of decency and truth, Erick please apologize to the “working girls”.
Bush may condition TARP funds on Corker concessions-LINK
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 10:13PM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2008/12/12/breaking-president-may-condition-tarp-funds-on-corker-concessions/
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I have a feeling it won't be long before we
WHAT (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 6:13PM EST (link)look back on Bush fondly because it won’t take his replacement long to prove he ain’t up to the job.
Bush is no one's ho. He is often wrong, but he does what
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 6:46PM EST (link)he thinks is right. He is a giant of character.
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The man is tired of being blamed for everything
JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 10:13PM EST (link)I think W is just plain weary, and he decided he didn’t want “and he let the auto industry fail, too!” on his headstone.
If he tosses the UAW a bone, i.e, infuse enough cash to keep the power company from turning out the lights at GM, he can kick this thing into January, when it will be Obama’s problem.
I’m not happy with him, but I do understand. Still, I’m unwilling for any of my money, as a US taxpayer, to go to helping the UAW. When you are ridiculously overpaid to make a crappy product and you suck the host companies dry, you can’t whine when then finally up and die on you.
Sorry, Mr President. I like you. I have supported you when it wasn’t easy. I am grateful to you for all you’ve done to keep this country safe. But sheesh — you’ve been blamed for everything from sunspots to Pluto no longer being a planet. One more won’t hurt; honest.
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Everything comes with a price
RoxannaDanna (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 6:23PM EST (link)and in the favor of unions who see Republicans as the great boogey-man. Nothing positive will come from this and it’s definate that the unions won’t show any appresication at the ballot box (when that time rolls around again) by electing Republicens.
Bush will be hurting his party if he bails out the unions and the auto makers. He has to see that. And he won’t be helping out the auto workers, in the long haul, either. And that’s because everything comes with a price.
If the government gives them the money they want, they will have to work under the thumb of congress and a car czar. Is that what they really want? They may not see it now, but they will be working under oppression that they (the unions) have said they have always been against. I mean after all, the message of the union has always been to free the worker from the oppressive employer.
If they get what they want, they will be working for the most oppressive (and incompentent) employer on the planet… the United States Congress. And maybe they deserve it.
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Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 6:53PM EST (link)1
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Bush is working on that "permanent majority" thing
Darin_H (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 7:10PM EST (link)too bad it’s for the wrong party….
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Kick the can down the road
Scope (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 7:32PM EST (link)Bush was originally against the auto bailouts. The Republicans finally take a strong stand against the destructive, company destroying unions. Now Bush decides that they need help. He does not want the failure of a major industry on his watch. Gettlefinger and other UAW reps. were in the negotiations and apparently refused to budge. Would it not be better to have jobs that pay a little less than to have no jobs? Speculation is that if Paulson, who has refused to use wall st. bailout money for the auto industry, will attach strings which include concessions from the UAW. Bush can override that also, and I believe he will. Bush is the whore he has been accused of being, and it isn’t the first time. It seems that over the last few months in particular, with the economic problems, Bush has been insuring a legacy no R president would want. McConnell had said, he is relieved that he is no longer constrained by a R president that has gone against the party.
I like Mr. Bush less and less each day
Bill S (Diary) Friday, December 12th at 9:14PM EST (link)I would much rather have seen Obama sworn in the day after the election. It would have made very little difference in how much damage BHO does to the country, but it would have put a stop to this crap from W right away. I’d rather be blaming the Dems for acting like Dems, rather than one of our own (?).
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
2-3 years from now the Dems will STILL be blaming Bush
bk (Diary) Saturday, December 13th at 7:18AM EST (link)for anything that’s bad and crediting Obama for anything that’s good.
Right...but
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, December 13th at 9:26AM EST (link)bk
You are probably right, but do you really think anyone save hardest of hard core Republicans will be longing for the “good old days” with George Bush? Those days were far and few between, and mostly occurring post 9/11.
President Bush at Ground Zero and his “We can all here you now” comments were one day that I will remember fondly.
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Tax cuts...Alito and Roberts...Keeping us safe after 9/11.
conservativemusician Saturday, December 13th at 12:00PM EST (link)Other than that, GWB’s legacy will be as a tax and spend lib.
Tax cuts...Alito and Roberts...Keeping us safe after 9/11.
conservativemusician Saturday, December 13th at 12:00PM EST (link)Other than that, GWB’s legacy will be as a tax and spend lib.
Other things too
SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, December 13th at 12:14PM EST (link)conservativemusician
Bush’s legacy will also be the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. History for some reason remembers wars more than any other creation of man.
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You're right SteveLA...
conservativemusician Saturday, December 13th at 11:08PM EST (link)This is somewhat implied in keeping us safe after 9/11. I lumped all of the military issues under one category when I said this.
I really hate being so hard on Bush, but he has been SO disappointing on the domestic spending front…especially of late with all these crappy bail outs, the worst being the Big 3. As a fellow Christian, I like him personally, but I also won’t be sad to see him go as he has governed like a lib for most of his presidency. He could have been great, but he squandered so many great opporunities.
Don't know if this'll work or not
Erick Brockway (Diary) Saturday, December 13th at 12:30AM EST (link)but it could get worse before Dec 24th
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Oh well...
Erick Brockway (Diary) Saturday, December 13th at 12:31AM EST (link)n/t
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Bush should spend EVERY PENNY (immediately) of the TARP funds!! here's why...
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Saturday, December 13th at 2:50AM EST (link)Give it out like Candy and with NO STRINGS AT ALL if necessary… If these funds are NOT dispersed and any are left for Oblahblah and the Democrats – the “NO RESTRICTIONS” on the Executive Branch to dole out the funds will ensure they will go to…. ACORN, Union Front companies, BlahGo Defense Fund, Al Gore (and his ilk invested in) Green companies (including T. Boone Pickens Wind-farm pipe dreams enriching him with Govt funds rather than him actually earning it), every Enviro-Terrorist group masquerading as a “Save the Planet” peace and love group, UN relief causes, Trial Lawyers, Teachers pension funds (rather than classrooms), and any/every other LIBERAL shill organization!
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And "Blame Bush" Won't Work
IJB Saturday, December 13th at 10:28AM EST (link)Blaming the guy only works when he’s there. When he’s gone, no one cares about what the last guy did – they only care about what *you’re* doing right now.
Think about people in Chicago, or Philly – if they’re not getting their goodies from Obama & co. in 3 years because the economy is in the toilet, do you think a “It’s all Bush’s fault!” is going to satisfy those guys?! Not hardly!
The fact is, come January, Obama and the Dems are ‘on the hook’. I hope they’re ready for it. ‘Cos “Blame Bush” won’t work for more than a few months, and after that anything that goes wrong is all going to be on them.
(Sucks to be them! heh heh heh…)
Note (META): This Post Is My First "Reply-To Error"
IJB Saturday, December 13th at 10:34AM EST (link)OK, so this post was meant as a reply to bk’s post.
But before posting and after first hitting the ‘Reply-To’ button, I got a strange error message (it was called something like “Steven’s Follow-Up Error”) which I didn’t understand.
But obviously, that error is what caused this post to list down here, instead of after bk’s and SteveLA’s posts.
So I guess this qualifies as my first “I hit the ‘Reply-To’! I swear!” post, but I’m hoping the extra info help’s Neil & co.