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	<title>Comments on: Saxby, why don&#8217;t you go first?</title>
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		<title>By: jbristor</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-12665</link>
		<dc:creator>jbristor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not vote for him in the General election becuase of his vote on the 1st bailout.  (I didn&#039;t vote for anyone in that race) Communications sent to his office and phone calls before and after the bailout vote and even after the election came back with the exact same boilerplate answer:  It wasn&#039;t a bailout and it was best for the country.

The only reason I and many others voted in the run-off for Saxby was the filibuster issue.  It accounts for all of the the percentage changes in Gwinnett and Cobb. 

Isaakson is next...  Rep. Price and Rep. Linder need to run for Isaakson&#039;s senate seat and governor.  I don&#039;t really care whihc one runs for which but the so-called conservative turned washinton insider politicians like Saxby and Isaakson need to be taught a lesson.  Maybe Saxby Chambliss learned his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not vote for him in the General election becuase of his vote on the 1st bailout.  (I didn&#8217;t vote for anyone in that race) Communications sent to his office and phone calls before and after the bailout vote and even after the election came back with the exact same boilerplate answer:  It wasn&#8217;t a bailout and it was best for the country.</p>
<p>The only reason I and many others voted in the run-off for Saxby was the filibuster issue.  It accounts for all of the the percentage changes in Gwinnett and Cobb. </p>
<p>Isaakson is next&#8230;  Rep. Price and Rep. Linder need to run for Isaakson&#8217;s senate seat and governor.  I don&#8217;t really care whihc one runs for which but the so-called conservative turned washinton insider politicians like Saxby and Isaakson need to be taught a lesson.  Maybe Saxby Chambliss learned his.</p>
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		<title>By: dld1717</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3018</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am well aware of what and who I am and sure as hell won&#039;t say what I am not&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am Conservative but does that make me fit litmus test with some of you 100% of time NO&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am well aware of what and who I am and sure as hell won&#8217;t say what I am not</p>
<p>I am Conservative but does that make me fit litmus test with some of you 100% of time NO</p>
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		<title>By: Erick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3017</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We aren&#039;t hating them -- well a few -- but not Saxby and most others.  We know we need them for a majority coalition.  We&#039;re just tired of them stabbing us in the back or, even worse, pretending they are conservative to get elected, then not governing like a conservative.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We aren&#8217;t hating them &#8212; well a few &#8212; but not Saxby and most others.  We know we need them for a majority coalition.  We&#8217;re just tired of them stabbing us in the back or, even worse, pretending they are conservative to get elected, then not governing like a conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3016</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;then so what? If we are &quot;too far&quot; to the right in this day and age of the government taking over everything, then I shudder to think of what is centrist in your opinion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I cannot support good government, small government, conservative and libertarian positions, then I will just stay home and watch the collapse of society on TV.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>then so what? If we are &#8220;too far&#8221; to the right in this day and age of the government taking over everything, then I shudder to think of what is centrist in your opinion.</p>
<p>If I cannot support good government, small government, conservative and libertarian positions, then I will just stay home and watch the collapse of society on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3015</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not hating on Saxby.  I love the guy.  I&#039;m writing out of disappointment, not hate.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He ran a disastrous campaign and embraced lots of bad advice.  I want better for the guy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He is, at heart, really a conservative.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not hating on Saxby.  I love the guy.  I&#8217;m writing out of disappointment, not hate.</p>
<p>He ran a disastrous campaign and embraced lots of bad advice.  I want better for the guy.</p>
<p>He is, at heart, really a conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronbg</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3014</link>
		<dc:creator>aaronbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suggest you reflect on that for a while.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: dld1717</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3013</link>
		<dc:creator>dld1717</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I notice a lot hate on this site at other Republicans quote and quote not being &quot;Conservative&quot; enough&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It really worries me that the party is being splintered more and more and that people like me who call themselves Conservative but have no problems with helping out a Snowe or Collins for example are feeling alienated.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I still maintain party lost in past 2 elections because we were deemed too far to the right.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice a lot hate on this site at other Republicans quote and quote not being &#8220;Conservative&#8221; enough</p>
<p>It really worries me that the party is being splintered more and more and that people like me who call themselves Conservative but have no problems with helping out a Snowe or Collins for example are feeling alienated.  </p>
<p>I still maintain party lost in past 2 elections because we were deemed too far to the right.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3012</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;After about eight-ten years in Washington they aint the same person you elected anyway.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After about eight-ten years in Washington they aint the same person you elected anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3011</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;She&#039;s laughing hysterically saying &quot;this is the best damn thing you&#039;ve ever written.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s laughing hysterically saying &#8220;this is the best damn thing you&#8217;ve ever written.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3010</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;when someone you rally like term limits out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a term limit every two or six years; it&#039;s called an election.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when someone you rally like term limits out.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a term limit every two or six years; it&#8217;s called an election.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus_Traianus</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3009</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus_Traianus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now I realize the article was meant to be about Saxby&#039;s win. Nonetheless, it spoke volumes about how Sarah Palin attracted crowds wherever she went. Saxby was in response gushing about &lt;b&gt;her&lt;/b&gt; turnout.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is he really that clueless? Or does he just not understand that people in Georgia, like others, thirst for a real, living and breathing, stick to your principles conservative? Let that be a foreboding image seared into his mind.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The pas de deux is has ended. If you want to me more like the other guys, become them, don&#039;t imitate them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way; veto proof majority? They have the phoney Republican from Maine, et al who can be counted on to vote for every piece of hope and change.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I realize the article was meant to be about Saxby&#8217;s win. Nonetheless, it spoke volumes about how Sarah Palin attracted crowds wherever she went. Saxby was in response gushing about <b>her</b> turnout.</p>
<p>Is he really that clueless? Or does he just not understand that people in Georgia, like others, thirst for a real, living and breathing, stick to your principles conservative? Let that be a foreboding image seared into his mind.</p>
<p>The pas de deux is has ended. If you want to me more like the other guys, become them, don&#8217;t imitate them.</p>
<p>By the way; veto proof majority? They have the phoney Republican from Maine, et al who can be counted on to vote for every piece of hope and change.</p>
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		<title>By: firstchevalier</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3008</link>
		<dc:creator>firstchevalier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Term limits, a balanced budget amendment, and an outlaw on earmarks.  I am with you TxCon.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: firstchevalier</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3007</link>
		<dc:creator>firstchevalier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;and closer to 85% of us called, emailed, and pleaded with him to NOT vote for the bailout.  He did it anyway.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He then went on the public airways and said, not once, but twice he knew--knew his constituents didn&#039;t want him to vote for it.  He did it anyway.  After, he was on talk radio and said he&#039;d still have voted for the bill.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On Monday and Tuesday his talk radio mouth piece (Boortz) said, &#039;If he&#039;d known how they were going to really use the bailout money he never would have voted for it&#039;.  Heck, I&#039;m just a dumb project manager who watches Washington politics from afar and I knew what they were going to do with it....Because I read the dang bill!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Saxby really didn&#039;t know how they intended to use it his judgement was/is too flawed for Washington.  If he knew he&#039;s not conservative enough.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and I got blasted for admitting I wasn&#039;t voting for him because I think he needs to learn about representative government.  No, I don&#039;t think he learned anything at all.  I think he thinks he&#039;s invincible now.  We&#039;ll see.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He could come on Redstate and post a note explaining how he understands what conservatism is etc, but I don&#039;t think he&#039;ll do that.  I do note he came on Redstate to post a note asking us all to support him though.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and closer to 85% of us called, emailed, and pleaded with him to NOT vote for the bailout.  He did it anyway.</p>
<p>He then went on the public airways and said, not once, but twice he knew&#8211;knew his constituents didn&#8217;t want him to vote for it.  He did it anyway.  After, he was on talk radio and said he&#8217;d still have voted for the bill.</p>
<p>On Monday and Tuesday his talk radio mouth piece (Boortz) said, &#8216;If he&#8217;d known how they were going to really use the bailout money he never would have voted for it&#8217;.  Heck, I&#8217;m just a dumb project manager who watches Washington politics from afar and I knew what they were going to do with it&#8230;.Because I read the dang bill!</p>
<p>If Saxby really didn&#8217;t know how they intended to use it his judgement was/is too flawed for Washington.  If he knew he&#8217;s not conservative enough.</p>
<p>Oh, and I got blasted for admitting I wasn&#8217;t voting for him because I think he needs to learn about representative government.  No, I don&#8217;t think he learned anything at all.  I think he thinks he&#8217;s invincible now.  We&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>He could come on Redstate and post a note explaining how he understands what conservatism is etc, but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;ll do that.  I do note he came on Redstate to post a note asking us all to support him though.</p>
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		<title>By: TxCon</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3006</link>
		<dc:creator>TxCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;why we need term limits on these clowns. Maximum of two Senate terms and six house terms, that&#039;s it. Then these bozos will have to find work in the private sector like the rest of us.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why we need term limits on these clowns. Maximum of two Senate terms and six house terms, that&#8217;s it. Then these bozos will have to find work in the private sector like the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan_McLaughlin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3005</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan_McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, I like that one.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At least he compromised on illegal immigration, voted for bigger government (overriding Bush&#039;s veto of the farm bill), and immeadiately jumped into bed at the drop of the hat on the bailout (don&#039;t let facts get in the way, just do something!)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I mean, it&#039;s not like he&#039;s a one trick moderate.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least he compromised on illegal immigration, voted for bigger government (overriding Bush&#8217;s veto of the farm bill), and immeadiately jumped into bed at the drop of the hat on the bailout (don&#8217;t let facts get in the way, just do something!)</p>
<p>I mean, it&#8217;s not like he&#8217;s a one trick moderate.</p>
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		<title>By: E_Pluribus_Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E_Pluribus_Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chambliss, I think you need to &lt;b&gt;cowboy up&lt;/b&gt; and take that first step toward the conservative mainstream.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chambliss, I think you need to <b>cowboy up</b> and take that first step toward the conservative mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3002</link>
		<dc:creator>kyle8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;because I believed the bailout was needed (although I wanted a smaller one). Looks like it really wasn&#039;t, don&#039;t mind admitting when I am Wrong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But it is a heavy thing to be responsible for another possible great depression.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because I believed the bailout was needed (although I wanted a smaller one). Looks like it really wasn&#8217;t, don&#8217;t mind admitting when I am Wrong.</p>
<p>But it is a heavy thing to be responsible for another possible great depression.</p>
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		<title>By: birdmojo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/03/saxby-why-dont-you-go-first/comment-page-1/#comment-3001</link>
		<dc:creator>birdmojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If half of your (conservative) constituency is screaming that the bailout is a bad idea and the other half of your constituency is screaming that the bailout is necessary to save the country as we know it, it&#039;s not like he can make a decision that won&#039;t irritate half of his constituency.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For every single flaw that Saxby has, I bet that I can find you a chunk of his (conservative) constituency that will scream loudly had he voted with a different button.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Personally, this is why I think that it becomes verrrrry important to hammer out what it means to be Conservative/Republican so that when he represents his (conservative) constituency, he does so in such a way that benefits Conservatives as a whole, rather than have it explained that, yes, he &lt;em&gt;DID&lt;/em&gt; vote for the bailout but you have to understand that these circumstances are extraordinary and why can&#039;t you understand that his vote on protecting marriage/children more than makes up for that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you know what I mean.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If half of your (conservative) constituency is screaming that the bailout is a bad idea and the other half of your constituency is screaming that the bailout is necessary to save the country as we know it, it&#8217;s not like he can make a decision that won&#8217;t irritate half of his constituency.</p>
<p>For every single flaw that Saxby has, I bet that I can find you a chunk of his (conservative) constituency that will scream loudly had he voted with a different button.</p>
<p>Personally, this is why I think that it becomes verrrrry important to hammer out what it means to be Conservative/Republican so that when he represents his (conservative) constituency, he does so in such a way that benefits Conservatives as a whole, rather than have it explained that, yes, he <em>DID</em> vote for the bailout but you have to understand that these circumstances are extraordinary and why can&#8217;t you understand that his vote on protecting marriage/children more than makes up for that.</p>
<p>If you know what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan_pujals</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;realizes that this overwhelming election success was not about him, but about saving the seat from the clutches of the democrats, thus preventing the 60-seat filabuster-proof majority. He should now wake up, dump his ineffectual Chief-of-Staff, Charlie Harmon, and start behaving like a CONSERVATIVE republican--not a pro-bailout moderate.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realizes that this overwhelming election success was not about him, but about saving the seat from the clutches of the democrats, thus preventing the 60-seat filabuster-proof majority. He should now wake up, dump his ineffectual Chief-of-Staff, Charlie Harmon, and start behaving like a CONSERVATIVE republican&#8211;not a pro-bailout moderate.</p>
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