Comments on: Stealing Minnesota?

By: Moe_Lane

Moe_Lane — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:01:18 +0000

No, we're not. But at least you understand that your Party cheats at elections; that's something, at least.

Blam.

By: ajl3

ajl3 — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:39:58 +0000

or "de-trunked" as the case maybe. Just saw this link hit Fark.com. Just an FYI, don't know the validity of this source. Minneapolis election director speaks: 'Ballots in my car' story false

By: marcusjlang

marcusjlang — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:47:21 +0000

Lets not be paranoid, Franken was expected to win, let’s get real. Virgina was a very very tight race, MN was a landslide.

By: speciallist

speciallist — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:16:16 +0000

By: bs

bs — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:08:34 +0000

but if the recount puts Franken in office, Minnesota will be ejected from the Union, and your state will become a part of Lichtenstein.

By: Moe_Lane

Moe_Lane — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:03:18 +0000

To stand up for Al Franken.

That's just... sad.

By: mswsocialwork

mswsocialwork — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:53:24 +0000

[...that beats "Al Franken is wonderful" for comedy. - Moe Lane]

By: scrapiron

scrapiron — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:31:08 +0000

I agree bigfoot. Franken (stein) is a buffoon and I can't understand why Minnesotans voted for him. I live in MN too. The same crowd that voted Ventura the dunce in is at work again.

I never did like Norm, but he is a lot better than ding dong Al.

By: EastCoastObserver

EastCoastObserver — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:32:34 +0000

Gore, if he was smarter, would have requested recounts in all of the counties. If he had done that the SCOTUS would have probably allowed it to go on because Bush's Equal Protection argument would be weakened. Although, from the way they wrote the majority decision that isn't exactly clear.

But the fact is that the SCOTUS should have never gotten involved in this purely state issue. No matter what you thought about the recount or who you supported in the election. If this case had all the same exact facts, but somehow the politics was taken out of it; the SCOTUS would have never granted cert. And even with the political edge to the case, the SCOTUS tends to not get into the "political thicket," which would give them even more reason not to grant cert.

It was a state issue. It should have been up to the sate and then, if nothing was solved, up to Congress. This comports with the Constitution and these types of matters should be settled by our elected representatives and never non-elected lifelong judges.

That is just what I think from reading the case and looking at the SCOTUS' juris prudence in regard to election law.

By: EastCoastObserver

EastCoastObserver — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:30:16 +0000

Not about whether Gore won or not. It should be about following federalism and the juris prudence of the Supreme Court. They left the door open for Gore to get back into the FL Supreme Court, but it was ambiguous and the FL Court would have probably taken the SCOTUS ruling into their assessment.

By: bigfoot

bigfoot — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:46:28 +0000

Yes, I am ashamed that so many people voted for this piece of garbage, Al Frankenstein. It didn't help that Dean Barkley ran. Of course this clown runs for every office and distorts results.

I am not a huge fan of Norm. I believe he's been too bipartisian for me. However, compared to Franken he's conservative.

By: ocleverone

ocleverone — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:50:12 +0000

My apologies, I hit post instead of preview.

A little cyber dyslexia this morning.

By: ocleverone

ocleverone — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:46:22 +0000

won his district with over 60% of the votes.

One doesn't necessarily follow the other.

By: ocleverone

ocleverone — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:45:31 +0000

won his district with over 60% of the votes.

One doesn't necessarily follow the other.

By: marcusjlang

marcusjlang — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:38:13 +0000

There was clearly voter suppression and cheating on both sides, it actually was a big shock that Fraken didn’t win, considering Obama won the state by a landslide and so did the democrats.

By: mondol

mondol — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:21:31 +0000

I just wish I knew what was going on, I certainly can't agree with the quote above. Why is is clear the election is being stolen? If the recount ends up in Coleman's favor will it be clear that the election was "stolen" or is it only the case that it was "stolen" if Franken wins?

With over 2 million votes cast it seems to me that a margin of 200, or 500 or 700 votes shows that the state is evenly divided and that it is a tossup who will win. I know that I couldn't publish a scientific paper with a margin that small as proof of anything.

Finally; I wish it was clear what this phase of the recount involves. Is it only tabulation errors that are being corrected or does it involve something else? I would love more data so that I could make an informed decision.

By: janis

janis — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:54:31 +0000

anyone who’s stated purpose is to translate the Bible into “lolcat” language.

By: Moe_Lane

Moe_Lane — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:45:14 +0000

...the regulars are already up to speed on this story; as would be anyone else of average intelligence who's interested in this topic.

And once you send in a 750 word essay on current electoral events in Minnesota - one that shows that you've corrected your confessed ignorance on the subject - we'll think about formally admitting that you're among the latter.

"lol"

Moe Lane

By: Zotnix

Zotnix — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:31:25 +0000

I find it disturbing that you have an entire post without one link, one citation, or one mention of any credible source in which you are getting this information. I see a lot of anecdotal hand wringing, but nothing of actual substance.

I'm a skeptic. Generally, when an argument is presented evidence goes along with it.

More disturbing is everyone is gobbling it up without second thoughts at the incredible lack of support.

By: Jim_Tomasik

Jim_Tomasik — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:52:19 +0000

Would they be the students or the professors?