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Erick?...get some sleep...it's Friday tomorrow...

speciallist (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 1:01AM EST (link)

It's good BUT I want more on the Rev Wright...that 20 years is VERY important!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 1:27AM EST (link)

I agree. I need lots to read tomorrow at work.

kllyhlls (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 1:33AM EST (link)

I’m sure Moe will be hard at it. :-)

 
 

Jaded, have you checked out Obama's relationship with Odinga?

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 1:51AM EST (link)

If all of what Jerome Corsi has been saying is true, Obama is in big, big trouble. Odinga and Obama are buddies. When Odinga lost his election, he incited his people to atrocities including the burning of a church with about 50 people inside. Corsi supposedly has e-mail records to back up his assertion that Obama was still in communication with him even after the atrocities had occurred. If this is true, I don’t think Barry will even be able to hold his Senate seat. Not that he’s ever used it that much anyway.

Tim Schieferecke

Yes, this is big big big

Anteater (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 1:54AM EST (link)

After burning a church, Odinga is still contacted by Obama?

There's a site called AfricanPress that has a very good article on his relationship.

Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 2:00AM EST (link)

It’s was the first result that popped up when I entered Obama and Odinga as the search query. There’s even a nice picture of Obama and Odinga together. It seems to be a very credible source and the writing is good. Check it out.

Tim Schieferecke

I am unfamiliar with that relationship BUT...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 2:33AM EST (link)

McCain and company better start throwing all of this man’s friends and associates out there with a vengance because time is running out and I cannot bear the thought of this scoundrel being in charge of our troops. He is the worse person to have run for the Presidency of the USA and I am getting really angry that he is this close.

 
 
 
 

Treason

redboy Friday, October 10th at 2:50AM EST (link)

“My government is my worst enemy. I’m going to fight them with any means at hand.” Joe Vogler-Alaska Independence Party,
“Keep up the good work,” Palin told AIP members. “And God bless you.”

Anyone who votes for this traitorous woman must hate America.

 

uh...

disanthropic Friday, October 10th at 3:07AM EST (link)

I don’t suppose you could cite the conviction of Ayers for a terrorist act, could you? “Guilty until proven innocent” was a founding concept of this country, so I am very curious why a loose association to a person presumed to be a terrorist (whatever that means anymore) if offered as evidence of anything.

I guess me as an undecided can’t make sense of this video clip. I guess I’m supposed to know who the referenced associations are now, or am I just supposed to freak out because some animated text told me scary things?

Boring troll...

azaeroprof (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 3:12AM EST (link)

Trying to sneak in during the dark of night…while Moe is sleeping. He’ll blam you soon enough!

Guilt by admission

azaeroprof (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 3:16AM EST (link)

You’ve made it a whole day, so you’re either a careful troll or maybe truly undecided.

Ayres only escaped conviction due to a technicality (illegal wiretap). His guilt is well-established, though, by his own profession and claim of responsibility.

Must be something after midnight...

dbecraft Friday, October 10th at 3:16AM EST (link)

go away redboy… Please…

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Treason

redboy Friday, October 10th at 3:27AM EST (link)

Yes ignore real traitors but make up fake ones you racist cowards

 
 
 
 
 

WHERE IS THE LINK TO FNMA?

hunter (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 3:39AM EST (link)

If McCain does not:
1) Link Barak Hussein Obama to the FNMA scam and our missing $trillion
and
2) Talk about how the people that took the money should not be allowed to fix the problem
and
3) How John McCain is going to fix things
Ayers does not matter.
People are missing a $trillion dollars.
Ayers is chump change.

hunter

Heh...prove to me that you are not what

dbecraft Friday, October 10th at 3:40AM EST (link)

you posed previously. If that was really you, then you don’t deserve to post here…

Formally known as Deagle… “Golf is a way of life…”

Fair enough.

disanthropic Friday, October 10th at 4:20AM EST (link)

I feel compelled to read up more on Ayers, but that’s me settling my own mind. It’s a bit “Don’t believe everything you hear”, but politics could almost always use a bit more doubt as I see it.

I’m still feeling like there is a lot of push for guilt by association, and as I said in my first redstate post last night, I wouldn’t want to answer for the actions of everyone I’ve met or talked with…I just don’t see Ayers as damning evidence.

And no, I still haven’t decided who I’m voting for. McCain hasn’t offered much that I agree with. Feels a lot like he’s chasing a very populist view right now, doesn’t seem like his strength.

Hmmmmmm

hunter (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 4:50AM EST (link)

Since Gov. Palin was never in the party, and never said what you assert in the context you claim, I think I will stick with condemning the guy who was mentored by the known and real terrorist. That would be Bill Ayers.
Why the Obamatons never doubt their guy, even when the facts are just sitting there, is something I have never understood.
Extra points, btw, for equating ‘not liking Obama’ to ‘being racist’.
Orwell would be impressed.
But not in a favorable way.

hunter

 
 
 
 

Ok. Fine. I get it.

disanthropic Friday, October 10th at 4:53AM EST (link)

Do you guys ever think about how you come across to anyone else?

I know you are spun up with the coincidence that Obama’s middle name happens to be the same as the last name of that guy we declared war against a few years back.

Do you know what it means in Arabic? Whoops, common name for Muslims, right? So where am I supposed to land on this one considering I wasn’t old enough to weigh in on the political repercussions of my parents naming me.

Oh, wait, my middle name, David, could be construed as my life being an homage to the old hebrew King David, yeah? Clearly, I’m all about Isreal. First up on my list of all the things this modern life has to give us, right?

Come on. Let’s stop screwing around with this piddly nonsense about his name. If you think what his parents named him, I admonish you “please, just abstain from voting for president.”

I’ve said it a couple times on here, and it’s still true. I’m a registered republican and I’m undecided. I’m leaning against voting for McCain. The libertarians are looking promising right now.

This name thing isn’t turning a lot of people’s opinions, it comes across as as less-than-intelligent.

It is the Obama reaction to Ayers

hunter (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 5:05AM EST (link)

That is most interesting.
He is very protective of him.
He tossed Rev. Wright and his own grandmother under the bus with no problem.
The other thing is this:
He and Ayers had a very lucrative relationship via the Anenburg foundation money. Ayers promoted Obama to the board.
Ayers ideas of educational reform, that Obama funded, includes teaching kids that America is bad, that their allegiance is tot he ‘world’, and not America. (recall Obama and his ‘citizen of the world’ spiel) Obama gave Ayers projects a bunch of money.
Ayers hosted the political kick-off of Obama. There is no way these people were not close working friends.
But Ayers is chump change.
The real deal is about ACORN, Obama’s employer and legal client, and how ACORN led the way in destroying FNMA.
FNMA meltdown is the cause of our financial crisis.
ACORN and Obama’s pals from FNMA wrecked it. Obama personally and politically benefited from wrecking FNMA.
That is more interesting to me than Ayers, a middle aged America hating rich kid who plays terrorist.

hunter

the name issue

scotteiland (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 5:19AM EST (link)

The vast majority of us don’t use Barack’s middle name as a battle axe. There are many, many, many reasons most of us reject Obama, and they’re 98 percent substantive.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
– John Adams

Translation: You're actually a Democrat...

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 5:26AM EST (link)

…who was just impatiently waiting for a commenter to say something that could be conceivably spun into race-baiting. If you squint hard enough.

You and redboy – who was at least honest about the way that he spewed – can go now, thanks.

Of Course is CORRECT IN HIS MAIN ALLEGATIONS!

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 5:40AM EST (link)

Obama Camp’s response to Corsi’s book only offered corrections on the details. But the main theme and key propositions of Corsi was was left by Obama Camp unchallenged.

Pathologizing Conservatism Is it an unfortunate evolutionary holdover, or the product of bad upbringing?

ydna.rolyat@gmail.com Friday, October 10th at 6:14AM EST (link)

Right-wing authoritarians are cognitively rigid, aggressive, and intolerant. They are characterized by steadfast conformity to group norms, submission to higher status individuals, and aggression toward out-groups and unconventional group members.

Naah, it's strictly sheer sadism on my part.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 6:21AM EST (link)

You people absolutely loathe not being taken seriously.

Blam.

Moe Lane

PS: That’ll be $50, please. The Contribute button is at the bottom of the screen.

Redboy is forgetting that the Federal Gov't must respect State Govt and independence. Dems (and Obama) have dissed State Authority by their efforts of expanding Fed Govt.

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 6:28AM EST (link)

The gesture made by Sarah is correct because she is the Governor of Alaska, the leader of all people of all parties in Alaska. Remember that Sarah even welcomed the National Democratic Party leaders when they campaigned in her town.

On the larger issue, AIP aims for the respect of agreement between USA and Alaskan Government during Alaska’s acceptance as one of US states. Instead of respecting that Agreement, the Federal Government has imposed all kinds of restrictions to Alaska and the expansion of Federal government’s authority has usurped and undermined that Agreement. A manifestation of this is the Fed’s laws almost converting the entire Alaska as Environmental National Park thus constricting the Alaskans’ right to enrich themselves through oil and natgas development.

AIP now is a Third Party…not hooked up to any majority party. It has the power to choose from any national party it may support, be it Dem or Rep.

BUT AIP IS MORE CORRECT IN THIS RESPECT: THE US CONSTITUTION HAS CLEARLY ESTABLISHED THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION BETWEEN FED AND STATE GOVERNMENT.

The Democrats’ efforts of expanding the Government role are usurping the States’ authority.

*The Democrat-run States have become complacent in pursuing economic development by themselves because they rely too much on the assistance that will come from the Fed. This is one of the main reasons why many Blue States are economically distressed and socially unstable. *

On a social aspect, Roe vs. Wade SC decision is one example on how the Washington DC has overstepped its authority. This decision should be nullified because the issue of abortion and choice must be akin to the cultural nature of each state. If California and New York want Abortion so much, then let their state government give the same to them. But those states whose majority of the people believe that such act is a violation of the right to life must be allowed to make their own law that represents their own values and beliefs. Thus, such decision for abortion must be decided by the State, not by the Fed.

In general, therefore, the issue by the AIP seeking greater economic independence from the national government is the same issue by many people in other states.

BUT WHAT ABOUT OBAMA AND BIDEN RECORD ON SECESSION? *This is interesting because Obama and Biden voted for that recent Federal Law that allowed Hawaiians to decide for their own independence from USA…ie. Hawaiian secession. * McCain voted NO to that bill. This may be the reason why Hawaii loved the Obama and the Democrats in this election. Through the Democrats, Hawaians got what they were wishing for.

*If Redboy’s idea of state economic independence from the National govt is traitorous… then Obama and Biden are the biggest traitors compared to Palin. *

Thus, Redboy is essentially dissing the current Federal Structure of the US Government which is also traitorous in some respect since it is a total disrespect of the Constitution.

Redboy’s issue has also a lot to say about other third parties. What about other third parties besides AIP? What are they doing?

Democratic Socialists of America and Communist Party of United States of America are third parties working within the Democratic Party. They have already announced their support to their Beloved Obama. Obama willingly accepted the support of these parties. Most of these parties’ members are there in Chicago… now the the center of Obama’s campaign, a place close to Wright and Ayers, New Party of Obama in 1996, and Chicago Democratic Socialists of America – the party that launched the career of Obama by dissing Alice Palmer.

Using the logic of Redboy, then we can conclude that:

DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF OBAMA IS TRAITOROUS SINCE IT ALLOWS THE MAINSTREAMING OF THE COMMUNISTS, SOCIALISTS AND TERRORISTS USING THE ARGUMENT OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AND AMERICAS AS SINFUL PEOPLE!

Conclusion:

It’s very irresponsible for Redboy to accuse Sarah Palin of being traitorous. Redboy must cross-check all the memes being spewed by the Obama Camp and by the HuffPo, such as the Anti-Palin AIP meme.

And yet authoritarians Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Tito, etc. were all men of the Left.

Martin Knight (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 6:30AM EST (link)

Moe’s right. Y’all don’t deserve to be taken seriously.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Needs Much More

1stRichard (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 7:14AM EST (link)

Not only Ayers and Obama add Phleger and Obama, Odinga and Obama, Wright and Obama, Dorhn and Obama, Khalidi and Obama, Rezko and Obama, Farrakhan and Obama, Marzook and Obama, Said, al-Mansour and many more.

Look up the connections…

Moe...

Battleshort (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 7:22AM EST (link)

It’s not that they loathe, it’s the fact that they cannot even comprehend another side of the story.

Remember – Liberalism is Munchausen Syndrome, Stockholm Syndrome, and Manic Narcissism melded into a single new mental disorder.

Pro Deo Et Patria (For God and Country)

Yes. It is guilt by association

Raven (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 7:26AM EST (link)

Because it is a pattern of association that is, frankly, terrifying. 1 or 2 people, sure. I’d buy it that he didn’t know. But everyone around him. People he has deliberately sought out.

1)He started his political career in the house of a pair of admitted terrorists who claim they still want to do more.

2)He spent 20 years in a church of “God Damn America!” and his marriage was performed by the head pastor of that church. He still claims friendship with that pastor and all of the other extremist preachers that work there (wright’s replacement and Father Pflager, for example)

3)He sought out and received the New Party endorsement when running for IL Senate. The New Party is the modern US Communist Party.

4)He sought out CEOs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to assist on his campaign. CEOs of the 2 worst failures of business in US history. Not merely some guy who was once hired to do some lobbying for those companies. The CEOs.

5)Light is now being shed on his relationship with Odinga, a mass murderer from Kenya.

6)His own wife has explicitly stated that she is ashamed of the USA. On multiple occasions.

It is a matter of his Entire circle of friends and associates. Everyone he might even consider turning to for advice. Whether that be advice on policy or advice on who to put into what cabinet or other political appointee positions.

So, yes. Guilt due to every public association he has had a choice to make.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

The thing is, I know tons of personally nice liberals.

Moe Lane (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 7:30AM EST (link)

The problem is, give ‘em a keyboard and they turn into schmucks.

‘Course, they probably say the same thing about me, although if I am at least I’m not an anonymous schmuck[]. Unlike most of our drive-bys. :)

Moe Lane

[]While “Moe” is a nickname, it’s one that I’ve used since grammar school.

Would have added

roxer Friday, October 10th at 7:40AM EST (link)

The Fanniemae Freddiemac folks too so we see an overall picture of who Obama selects as advisers. As a matter of fact, show this:

Obama’s ability to look the other way is proven in his choice of a friend that is an unrepentant terrorist. No wonder he said he would sit down without preconditions with blood thirsty Ahmadinejad. He has no problem doing so in a known domestic terrorist’s living room…

“Where I stand does not depend on where I’m standing.”
–Fred D. Thompson, 2008

Maybe.......

Battleshort (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 7:55AM EST (link)

I should have said liberal extremeists. I also know some of the bluest in America yet I can sit down and rationally talk with them.

Pro Deo Et Patria (For God and Country)

[The sooner we fix this...]

ydna.rolyat@gmail.com Friday, October 10th at 8:11AM EST (link)

[...the better. Sorry, folks. - Moe Lane]

OUCH. We need that line in the next debate! n/t

kllyhlls (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 9:46AM EST (link)

That, and...

Putter (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 9:53AM EST (link)

MAC: Senator Obama’s belief that he can deal effectively with terrorists seems to be based on the fact that he get’s along so well with them

Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Constructive Criticism

Tathamconnorhalo Friday, October 10th at 12:14PM EST (link)

About that video… hope you don’t mind if I give you a little constructive criticism. No one is going to know what you are talking about. You mention things like “cop killer” and “terrorist” and then you don’t back it up. If you don’t have time to present any evidence you should at least mention what you’re talking about – maybe a photo or a clip. It just doesn’t have any weight when you throw things out there and no one gets it but people who read Redstate.org.

 

simple messages

Common_Cents (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 12:25PM EST (link)

We need to state simple messages instead of innuendo leaving the voters to connect the dots.

Many of the voters undecided now are headline believers. They haven’t paid much attention but will over the next 20 some days.

Old info is new info to them. Simple messages that get repeated.

Now is NOT the time for the scatter gun approach.

Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from, behind, the Back Nine.
Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

 

October surprise?

mfdegs Friday, October 10th at 1:07PM EST (link)

Is there going to be a Bin Laden video this month? It helped Bush in ’04… scared up some independents, reminded people who was prosecuting the War on Terror.

 

Hate Mongering

red2blue08 Friday, October 10th at 6:11PM EST (link)

Videos like this do nothing to move our country forward. The U.S. has slipped so far back under Bush that it is going to take a generation to get this country back on track. Why isn’t anybody talking about McCain’s ideas for the future? How is he going to solve this mess? Eliminate all spending on planetariums? I don’t understand why he won’t address the issues and says nothing to his supporters who act out of hate towards Obama. People we are better than this.

 

15 min Troll

dld1717 (Diary) Friday, October 10th at 6:15PM EST (link)

15 min troll

Go get a life

Who is he?

handsomehigh Friday, October 10th at 7:32PM EST (link)

I once read that you are a combination of the 5 people you hang around with the most. I wasn’t sure about that when I first read it, but now I have proof! Its not surprising to me that with all the evidence, he still will not admit his associations with Muslim extremists, terrorists, radicals, and criminals. But what is amazing are the number of people that still believe him. Character does matter, or at least it should.