Romney is crashing in InTrade and Kay Bailey Hutchison is going up.
I’ll remind you all she is pro-choice and I’ll tell you all I will puke on my keyboard if she is the pick and probably will cease being excited about your campaign. She’ll be a good governor. She is not an inspiring Veep Pick.
And I speak for a large, large number of Republicans.
That is all.
Daniel Horowitz
Neil Stevens
Steve Maley
Jake Walker
Romney To Muxh Flip Flop
dld1717 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 8:55PM EST (link)Romney ran as social liberal for MA and Kay Bailey Hutchinson has a pretty good record on being pro life
Speak for yourself Mr. Erickson
Dave Poff (haystack) (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 8:59PM EST (link)While I will share your gastronomic ejaculation, she BY NO MEANS would be ok as Governor. We have the Republican version of the Breck Girl now, as it is…we’re all set down here with KBH taking his place…thank you very much.
“It does not take a majority to prevail … but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
~Sam Adams
Ditto that from the Fredheads
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:00PM EST (link)Or I should say, the rest of the Fredheads.
I might point out, in all fairness, that InTrade is just so much fashionable herd-following speculation. It ain’t McCain’s fault, and I predict here and now that we will find that neither Romney nor KBH were ever on the short list.
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
75% from Right To Life
dld1717 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:04PM EST (link)Maybe
Maggie_in_Indiana (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:05PM EST (link)but I think we will be surprised,after all we are talking about McCain.You know the Maverick thing and all.
Maggie in Indiana
Please no KBH
Ronald Daniels (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:05PM EST (link)Or no Tom Ridge. I mean if you are going to pick some crazy wildcard, pick one that has some sort of big base – like Ron Paul, as bad as I hate to say that.
No Whitman
Kate_Shanahan (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:07PM EST (link)that’s it for me. US News reports Romney out, that’s why the Intrade crash.
Sophomoric pick if true.
Pride goeth before the fall.
Kate
“It is the American vice, the democratic disease which expresses its tyranny by reducing everything unique to the level of the herd.” Henry Miller
Don't worry, it won't be her.
The_Rebel (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:10PM EST (link)And while I like Cantor, I think McCain is more worried about taking Ohio and Pennsylvania than he is about Virginia. With that in mind, based on the 3-state rollout planned with the VP pick, which includes both Ohio and Pennsylvania, I feel that John Kasich could be the one.
I’m sure he has been one of the least researched candidates by the dems and is flying under the media radar. As former chairman of the budget committee, he knows the process and could help McCain achieve one of his pet projects, cutting wasteful spending, earmarks, etc. And he is a good speaker, although I didn’t care for his stint on Fox News “Heartland” show.
I wonder where InTrade has Kasich?
Sarah Palin
R. Mike Lyons Wednesday, August 27th at 9:12PM EST (link)Why isn’t there more talk about Sarah Palin for Veep? She’d be perfect, imho.
1) Conservative.
2) Executive experience.
3) A woman.
4) Young.
What’s there not to love?
Children are our future — Unless we stop them NOW!
Crist could still be "it"
Maggie_in_Indiana (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:16PM EST (link)or the one. I could live with that.
Maggie in Indiana
Not Experienced
dld1717 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:17PM EST (link)Plus, she could not even help Parnell yesterday defeat Young
Prochoice: Case closed.
steveprost Wednesday, August 27th at 9:17PM EST (link)She was one of nine republicans voting FOR that amendment. She agrees that there is a Federal Constitutional RIGHT to an Abortion. How does she reconcile that with being pro-life???
Steve Prost
I agree with her vote
dld1717 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:19PM EST (link)I agree with her vote and consider myself pro life
She has 75% voting record of pro life thats pro life
PLEASE NO KAY HUTCHINSON!
Red_Wing (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:22PM EST (link)Pick Romney;
But Pick Hutchinson and;
John McCain,
Please, please do not make the mistake Obama did and pick the wrong VP!
Kay Hutchinson is a nice person and everything, but she is absolutely not the right call for you, or the country.
We need someone who could be POTUS in 4 years, she is not that person.
Mitt Romney is the right call despite the ads you are afraid of seeing with the two of you taking shots at one another.
Mitt will be the man for you, and he can hold his own.
A woman is a nice idea, but it is an idea for another cycle.
PLEASE do not make the critical mistake that will cost us this election!
McCain-Romney is the ticket we can all get behind and put you in the White House!
“Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself”. ~M. Friedman
Except...
ConservaGeek (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:24PM EST (link)You forgot to add, “target of a political witch-hunt… er… investigation,” which would give the Donkeys lots of ammo to throw at her.
Mind you, I like her, and have spoken in her favor here before… but it gives McCain a plausible excuse for passing her over… he probably doesn’t want a pro-ANWR-driller anywhere near the Oval Office.
Richard Carlson as Geoff Montgomery: It’s worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own. You see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring.
**Bob Hope as Larry Lawrence: You mean like Democrats?**
*”The Ghost Breakers,”* 1940.
Romney/Palin
dld1717 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:24PM EST (link)Either Romney or Palin would leave me very disappointed
Please Pawlenty he is actually someone many young Republicans can be inspired by and actually a pro for McCain
He is still considering Lieberman
olderthangandalf Wednesday, August 27th at 9:40PM EST (link)Novak came out of retirement due to terminal illness to write a column warning him off a Lieberman pick, but notes that despite warnings from nearly everyone – including Lieberman himself – McCain is still considering it.
McCain, over his career, has been pretty conservative. All the same, he will do what he wants, without worrying about what the base thinks (and without caring who bugles on their keyboard).
He figures he has at least 90 percent of the Bush base showing up on election day and voting for him, no matter what he does. And, probably, he’s right – he can take the religious right for granted because they have no other option. Four fifths of a loaf with McCain beats what Obama and Biden offer.
It will be very interesting to see what he does and how people react.
If you going to go pro-choice
RedFox84 Wednesday, August 27th at 9:41PM EST (link)Pick Lieberman.
Romney is the best choice, IF
BurkeanBadger (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:41PM EST (link)he and McCain can successfully bury the hatchet and if his people and McCain’s people can work together cohesively. If there’s little bad blood and much synergy for a GOP victory. If this is true, McCain will demonstrate to the nation that he is truly a maverick in that he can rise above an acrimonious primary battle and unite with a former foe. This, UNLIKE a certain Illinois Senator who passed over his primary foe.
However, if these factors are not true, then a McCain-Romney ticket could be an utter disaster. In that case, I think Pawlenty is the best second choice. Reliably conservative, acceptable to evangelicals, with executive experience and from a swing state (and the home state of the convention). Not an exciting choice, perhaps, but a reliable one.
Palin is woefully inexperienced.
Caiwyn (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:42PM EST (link)She’s been governor for less than two years. Her fans need to accept the fact that she’s not ready.
She's not an abortionist nutz
cordpt Wednesday, August 27th at 9:44PM EST (link)If she pledges to make the right judicial nominations, why so much worry about her personal decision?
Are you counting on the POTUS to overturn Roe vs. Wade? Kay would nominate good Supreme Judges and besides that, her odds of being President even if McCain wins are fairly small.
If you're going to go pro-choice
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:45PM EST (link)pick Rudy. He actually has accomplished something as an executive, has significant experience working in and with the federal government and won’t be cowed in the least by Democrats or the media.
Plus, he will beat the crap out of both
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:46PM EST (link)Obama and Biden on a daily basis.
I must respectfully disagree.
ConservaGeek (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 9:46PM EST (link)McCain is using Biden’s anti-Obama comments quite well in his ads.
If McCain picks Romney, Obama will be able to do the same thing with Romney’s anti-McCain comments.
Bad news all around. Blunts one of your own best weapons and hands your opponent a weapon.
Richard Carlson as Geoff Montgomery: It’s worse than horrible because a zombie has no will of his own. You see them sometimes walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring.
**Bob Hope as Larry Lawrence: You mean like Democrats?**
*”The Ghost Breakers,”* 1940.
I'm fine with KBH
Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:01PM EST (link)as I wrote in a diary earlier today.
She is very conservative overall.
********
Formerly know as “Oz” in these parts
Him too
RedFox84 Wednesday, August 27th at 10:05PM EST (link)Rudy would rock.
This is how it's going to go down
mcg Wednesday, August 27th at 10:09PM EST (link)if KBH is picked. The Editors will whine and moan for awhile, and then they’ll put out an editorial calling all of us Republicans to put aside our differences over primary candidates, to set aside our disagreements with McCain, and get to work.
It’s Alexham/Feddie all over again, who assured us all he would never vote for Giuliani, and then castigated people for sour grapes because our preferred nominee didn’t make it through to the end.
It really is tiring to engage in dialogue with fellow pro-lifers who chuck all notion of political strategy and incremental gains out the window when it comes to that one issue. Yes, I know, 40 million. Here’s another number: 59 million. That’s the number of people who voted in the last election for the candidate who would have set us back years. Whether we like it or not, that number guarantees that incrementalism is the only way to go.
I want McCain to pick the VP that maximizes the likelihood of him getting into office, and nominating conservative Supreme Court Justices. If the analysis proves it’s a women with only a 7% rating from NARAL instead of zero, and 75% by the NRLC instead of 100%, well, I can live with it, and I can also help make it happen. And I think any intellectually honest RedStater, including our esteemed poster, will be able to as well.
intrade is irrelevant. You will have to blame hurl
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:13PM EST (link)on something else
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Great post mcg
cordpt Wednesday, August 27th at 10:16PM EST (link)n/t
experience?
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:17PM EST (link)Do you realize that with those two years she will have more executive level experience with government management then the other three in the race combined?
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
5 (nt)
Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:17PM EST (link)RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
Brownback VP?
recon79 Wednesday, August 27th at 10:19PM EST (link)It’s Brownback? [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
An e-mail:
I just got an email from the McCain campaign telling me that I can meet Brownback in Iowa tomorrow.
And I checked Brownback’s website— he doesn’t have plans to visit any other Kansas counties in the near future…
So, cornerites— any thoughts on a Brownback Veep pick?
08/27 10:26 PM
I hate to say it, but you
hazard Wednesday, August 27th at 10:20PM EST (link)brought this upon yourself by championing lost casue candidates like Fred Thompson and now Eric Cantor instead of swallowing your pride and promoting alternatives that were actually “within the realm of possibility”. Your comments about Romney are among the many that have most likely convinced McCain that he’s too divisive to put on the ticket. Since Fred and Eric are non starters, we may be stuck with a pro choice Senator. But at least it’s not Romney right?
KBH isn't going to be making any nominations
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:20PM EST (link)to SCOTUS. That’s not an issue.
The problem is that she’s a total lightweight who wouldn’t be considered for dog catcher except for her gender. She’s no more qualified for POTUS than Obama. Maybe even less. She’s been in the Senate for a long time, has no accomplishments to point to, has exercised no leadership on anything. She’s a chair warmer.
No thank you very much.
Hutchison... not bad. Romney... not good.
PSDA (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:25PM EST (link)Plenty of people I respect among establishment Republicans are very strongly in favor of Romney, but I don’t understand how they can’t see the blindingly obvious: Romney turns off vast numbers of rank-and-file Republicans and does absolutely NOTHING to appeal to Independents, which is where we need to be training our sights now.
He’s slick, he says the right things, and quite frankly I think he’d be a tremendous VP or POTUS… but I don’t see him winning any votes that McCain doesn’t have in the bank already.
Romney belongs in the cabinet in some role where he can do some good–and hopefully position himself for greater things down the road.
But not in the McCain VP slot, which ought to be used to shake up the race somehow and cut into the Democrat’s strengths. How does Romney do that? He doesn’t.
Hutchison could plausibly make inroads among the female vote, at least those who are “soft feminists”–working class women, single moms, etc., who were strongly for Clinton but don’t have dogmatic attachments to left-wing politics in general.
You actually think McCain checks in with
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:33PM EST (link)Redstate before he chooses a VP?
Heh. Oh that it were so.
Pawlenty?
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:39PM EST (link)Pawlenty will leave me exasperated to no end. He would get killed by Biden in any debate. He is a deal breaker at least Romney will fight. Palin would clean Biden’s clock.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
I don't like Brownback vs Biden
pilgrim (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:42PM EST (link)Those two along with Sen Boxer worked together to partition Iraq into Sunni, Shia, and Kurd. LINK
Jindal-Palin '08?
scottbomb (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:46PM EST (link)Just a thought.
www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
errr.. I mean Jindal-Palin '16
scottbomb (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:48PM EST (link)Dang edit button…
www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
now that would be a ticket...
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:49PM EST (link)scottbomb if we don’t get it this year you just said the Dream ticket for ’08.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
You'd be lonely
scottbomb (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:50PM EST (link)No way. Keep Crist in FL. I’d MUCH rather have KBH.
www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” – Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Eh, KBH wouldn't be the worst
skey (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:56PM EST (link)It would get her out of the Senate into someplace where she can do a whole lot less damage. Although that will be taken care of in a couple of years anyways when she runs for Governor.
The only real downside to it I see is Governor Perry would probably appoint himself to the Senate seat for the remainder of the term.
However, having resigned myself to voting for McCain, I can honestly say that the veep slot doesn’t really interest me all that much. If I let it interest me then it will just hurt that much more when McCain decides to make like the scorpion riding across the river on the frog’s back and sting us. If he makes a good pick, then I can get excited, but until then I don’t want to think about it.
TAS has a report that a floor fight is in the offing if McCain screws us on this VP Pick
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:56PM EST (link)It would take a motion from one state convention with a second from five others to bring forth another candidate and throw the convention into chaos…all according to TAS…if the VP is Lieberman…or Pro-Choice…the effort will be made no matter how hard it would be to bring it about.
Let’s pray Mac Takes note
Independents?
jmimac351 Wednesday, August 27th at 10:58PM EST (link)Did Bobby Jindal win in Louisiana by giving lip service to “Independents”? Of course not. Worrying about appealing to “Independents” is exactly what we should not be doing. Think about what McCain has been doing recently that is leading to his rise in the polls. He is talking like a conservative. Conservatism works. Conservatism wins. When that is watered-down we lose. Period. McCain is the nominee because a strong conservative was not present and he was the default best chance to win. If a real conservative were present his clock would have been cleaned – just as it was during last summer when people expected a conservative to emerge.
We don’t need to appease lightweight liberals aka – “Independents”. And foolish talk like this is exactly why the party has been wallowing for the past several years.
Kay is Pro-Choice...she's never been pro life
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 10:59PM EST (link)I assume that was a typo?
They have, and you are correct.
Red_Wing (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:02PM EST (link)n/t
“Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself”. ~M. Friedman
75% ain't 100% when it's your life on the line!
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:02PM EST (link)She supports the perpetuation of Roe v Wade…
The Order
ghbraves Wednesday, August 27th at 11:05PM EST (link)Tied for 10th – FDT, Meg, and Kay Bailey. Too much old? I do like a woman on the ticket, though.
Hopefully its just a clue
SirGladiator (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:06PM EST (link)Hopefully the talk of KBH is just a clue that he’s going to pick a woman, something he absolutely should do if he wants to win this election. Governor Palin has accomplished a great deal in her time in office and has a record approval rating. If Democrats want to attack her as not having enough experience, that’d be a pretty sweet deal as that would be basicly admitting their own nominee doesnt have enough experience either. The fact is she has a lot more Executive experience than Obama, and isn’t just ‘ready’ to lead, she HAS led, and the vast majority of her state’s voters approve of her leadership, Democrats and Republicans alike.
The bottom line for me is, Im not comfortable with KBH’s mixed record on abortion. I know she’s cast some good votes but obviously not all her votes on abortion have been good ones, and to borrow a phrase from the star of the night, Bill Clinton himself, why ‘roll the dice’ when a woman with a proven record, like Governor Palin is available?
Also, on ANWR, her being pro-ANWR is a major asset, as it will enable McCain to change his own position on that issue. His being anti-ANWR is hurting him needlessly, he needs to be completely pro-drilling if he wants to own that issue in the fall, his current inconsistency on that issue could keep him from really getting full benefit from that key issue.
75% on a life and death issue might as well be 0%
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:07PM EST (link)nt
excellent post
Jack (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:08PM EST (link)I concur with you mcg but I am for Sarah Palin not KBH. I also have have too many gray hairs from arguing with single issue people. They would sit home and not vote in the election and guarantee that Barack Obama would pick supreme court justices for the next four maybe eight years?
That has always left me shaking my head in disbelief. This is about winning.
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
Thank you
Chris_G Wednesday, August 27th at 11:10PM EST (link)Thanks for the stats, dld1717. I am an Aggie Knight of Columbus who has literally lost sleep over the abortion issue. I was on the night shift, protesting/praying in front of the Planned Parenthood in Bryan, TX from 1am to 3am on Friday mornings as part of the 40 Days for Life. Speaking from that perspective, I would accept with open arms a person who NARAL believes is a thorn in their side 93% of the time. While I would not choose her for VP (I would rather see her replace Governor Good-hair), she would still be a fine pick for VP.
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.–Milton Friedman
Pawlenty has a deer caught in the headlight
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:13PM EST (link)look that would kill him in debating Biden…I just don’t see the fascination with him…
Biden did in Romney's chances
Illinicon (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:14PM EST (link)McCain has been making too much hay about all the attacks Biden and HRC made about Obama, to pick Romney and have the some attacks thrown back at him. As for Hutchison she seems like a “check the box conservative” she has a 90% career ACU rating, but I could not tell anything she has done. If he is going for a women, it should be Fiorinia because she would atleast bring executive expirence to the table. I think if you polled a 1,000 economist I think a majority would say the Compaq deal was a good thing HP. She has also been doing reach-out efforts on behalf of McCain with HRC voters. Lets face it we have no good women candidates, so McCain just needs to pick a conservative who can help him with independents like Cantor or Kaisch.
My Potus shortlist
declared candidates:
1. Tim Pawlenty
2. Herman Cain
3. Gary Johnson
4. Rick Santorum
among declared and rumored candidates:
1. Rick Perry
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Rudy Giuilani
4. Herman Cain
Amen.
Tim_Schieferecke (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:14PM EST (link)We lose when we let the liberals define to us what moderation is. Consider how silly it was for President Bush to define himself as a “compassionate conservative.” Look at all the extremely bad decisions he has made as a compassionate conservative, (Kennedy Education, Prescription Drug, unused vetoe pens, etc. etc.. Conservatism in its very essence is compassionate. It is heavy on personal responsibility and heavy on rewarding hard work and ingenuity. When a leader holds his head up and says “yes I’m a conservative”, and never waivers from the path, we win everytime. When a leader lets the media tell him/her what the definition of conservative is, that leader might as well have a saddle on his/her back and a bridle in his/her mouth. Save a horse, be a cowboy!
Tim Schieferecke
Kasich would be a home run (nt)
McCainForPrez (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:16PM EST (link)nt
Yeah, I like Kasich for VP too.
Anteater (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:20PM EST (link)Here are my favorites. Senator McCain, please pick from this pool:
KBH would bring back the warm bucket.... n/t
Darin_H (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:21PM EST (link)A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls
To Kowalski
Darin_H (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:23PM EST (link)I don’t think she’d be that bad of a pick, if just for electoral purposes to secure a McCain win. Otherwise see comment above.
A visionary coward says that anger can be power, as long as there’s a victim on TV – Flat Top, Goo Goo Dolls
Compromise always brings about more demands for compromise...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:23PM EST (link)We’ve been asked com compromise much this cycle…I’ve kicked and screamed all the way…but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
See Chamberlains compromises with Hitler…They sat back and did nothing when he marched into the Sudetenland, the protested when he marched into Austria, they negotiated away half of Czechoslovakia and did nothing when he took it all anyway…and finally declared war when he conquered Poland…Oh…and they sat back and waited for a month for Germany to attack France and crapped their pants as they were loading up their troops at Dunkirk wondering what happened.
I’ve made all my compromises…a pro choice VP is my Poland…if he makes that move…I wish you all luck for the election…I’m out…period!
Looks like John Kasich more and more.
The_Rebel (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:25PM EST (link)McCain and the VP pick will rally in Dayton, Ohio on the start of a 3-state rollout. Kasich’s 12th district was about 60 miles northeast in the Columbus area. They will then travel by bus to a suburb of Pittsburgh, near where Kasich was born and raised. They will travel to Missouri for another rally. Both the Pennsylvania and Missouri rallies are to be held at minor league baseball stadiums. Kasich is known to be an avid baseball fan. Ohio and Pennsylvania are crucial for McCain to win.
A lot of coincidences. Maybe to throw us off. We’ll see.
Yep!
jmimac351 Wednesday, August 27th at 11:26PM EST (link)There are too many “Conservatives” that either don’t know what they believe and / or don’t have confidence that their beliefs are strong enough and right enough to persuade other people. I for one am tired of those people leading the Republican party. In 2012 someone like Jindal is going to kick this entire weak kneed conservatism in the nuts and then they will say “Oh yeah, that’s what I believe!”. I’ve lost patience for this accommodative line of thinking. If McCain picks Lieberman it’s Game On and there will be hell to pay… There Will Be Blood.
55555....excellent succinct analysis.....;^)....n/t
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:26PM EST (link)n/t
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
I was interested in Brownback till he went Democrat on the Iraq War
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:27PM EST (link)McCain won’t pick him…at least I don’t think he will
If Kasich ensures Ohio
Anteater (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:27PM EST (link)I’m all for it!
This is the second post I've seen you make today challenging the integrity of the Directors...
AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:31PM EST (link)Clean up anyone?
Dittos!! (n/t)
IJB Wednesday, August 27th at 11:38PM EST (link)It's Pawlenty or Ridge...
shooflyguy68 Wednesday, August 27th at 11:39PM EST (link)according to MSNBC so take with as much salt as necessary. My guess is it will be Pawlenty because Sen McCain has to throw a bone to the SoCons.
Numbering messed up.
ghbraves Wednesday, August 27th at 11:41PM EST (link)FDT, Meg, Kay are
Huck
Port
Lieb
This auto numbering is serious screwed up.
ghbraves Wednesday, August 27th at 11:43PM EST (link).Ten is Kay, FDT, and Meg
.Eighteen is Huck
.Nineteen is Romney
.Twenty is Portman
.Thirty is Lieb.
So what, if KBH has 100% voting record
PopulistConservative Wednesday, August 27th at 11:43PM EST (link)she’s pro-Roe! Roe is what really matters when it comes to having a pro-life president. Being pro-roe is about more than just being pro-choice, its being anti democracy. KBH will definitely make me consider not voting for McCain.
pity...I though you listed them that way to show their different groupings...
Attack Mode (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:44PM EST (link)n/t
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
McCain is a social conservative and the GOP wins as a prolife party
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, August 27th at 11:46PM EST (link)can you say Reagan
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
A candidate should pick a VP that agrees with him on the major issues.
PopulistConservative Wednesday, August 27th at 11:48PM EST (link)If he doesn’t he not going to gain people on the other side of the issue, because nobody is going to say “well I didn’t like candidate x, but now that’s a slight chance we might get his VP who I do like on this issue, I’ll guess I’ll vote for him.”. You also aren’t going to the other side to vote for him because he’s sending the message that he’s not serious about the issue ( which he is) because that’s a message that he’s a phony.
McCain needs to pick someone who agrees with him on major issues – that includes Abortion. I well say though that since the most any pro – life president is planning to do on the life issue is to pick good judges, I would be okay with someone who was personally pro – life, and anti Roe, even if they were pro-choice.
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Important principles may and must be inflexible. ~ Abraham Lincoln
I can say Reagan but it's 2008, not 1984
shooflyguy68 Wednesday, August 27th at 11:53PM EST (link)McCain has always been a traditional Conservative but not a hardline Social Con. However, this cycle he’s felt the need to cozy up to people like Hagee, the folks at Bob Jones U and others. It’s a necessary evil.
Even what Zogby calls "globalists" are pro life
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 12:00AM EST (link)These are 20 somethings that are liberal on most issues. The Reagan and Rush babies are pro life.
It is a myth that dems have the edge on this issue, and the facts are that the GOP started winning the oval and the congress when we went pro life.
Now, McCain is pro life. I have bet $$ that he will pick a prolifer.
nuff said fly
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I didn't say McCain wasn't pro-life
shooflyguy68 Thursday, August 28th at 12:11AM EST (link)or that he shouldn’t pick a pro-life VP. However, Pawlenty is more than just pro-life, he is closely tied to the Evangelical movement in a way that would have made McCain circa 2000 uncomfortable.
If its Ridge, the delegates should reject it
Illinicon (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 12:14AM EST (link)The laundry list of whats wrong with Ridge:
My Potus shortlist
declared candidates:
1. Tim Pawlenty
2. Herman Cain
3. Gary Johnson
4. Rick Santorum
among declared and rumored candidates:
1. Rick Perry
2. Tim Pawlenty
3. Rudy Giuilani
4. Herman Cain
yes, you can demonize McCain but not so-cons
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 12:18AM EST (link)and that stereotype
The fact is that politician McCain circa 2000 sucked compared to politician McCain 2008. It is he that matured.
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That would make for great theater
shooflyguy68 Thursday, August 28th at 12:24AM EST (link)but it would be a disaster for McCain and the Party. While I think Ridge is ok, I hope Sen McCain can foresee the likely backlash from a significant part of the base and select someone else. I think Pawlenty is a safe though uninspiring choice.
Amen Brother
phxg (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 12:32AM EST (link)I’m one who want’s a woman chosen for VP, but definitely not KBH.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle
A good governor?
Menlo (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 12:41AM EST (link)I’d argue she’d be WORSE as governor, and I’ve said before I won’t even consider voting for her if she runs. About the only upside to making her VP is keeping her out of the governor’s mansion.
I don’t believe or take seriously claims McCain is considering her.
I think some kid in a newsroom who has nothing better to do keeps generating and throwing out new names of “possible” running mates for kicks and giggles. I think they did it with Obama too to a lesser extent.
I don’t take seriously a word I hear about possible running mates or considerations, and I won’t until someone is actually chosen.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
5-nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 12:45AM EST (link)1
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Not quite
Menlo (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 1:07AM EST (link)The President can also use his veto pen when Barabara Boxer finally gets FOCA passed in the likely filibuster-proof majority. And I have no doubt that after 18 years, she’ll be stop at nothing to get that sucker through.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
it is a bit rich
Pentagon16 (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 1:34AM EST (link)that someone with a Right to Life rating of 75 is STILL not acceptable to those who have never been elected to city, state or national office. How about we just trot out Richard Nixon as BOTH our candidates- would he be conservative enough?
I am guessing not, so really the plan has to then be for the GOP to pull Ronald Reagan out of his place of honor and run him for the next thirty years. Because I am not sure some in the party realize it- but Reagan was elected THIRTY years ago when about 20% of today’s Americans were not even alive or living here!
And Reagan- who is beloved by all-
also did such non conservative things as retreating from Lebanon in 83, presided over huge deficits, never really stopped Iran, traded hostages, and at times did not completely support Israel. But why let facts get in the way of a good anti-McCain rant…
right?
“Small town folks get bitter after which they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment”- Barack Carter Obama
wrong and out of context, esp any claim
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 1:38AM EST (link)that Reagan was not 100% behind Israel.
Please read Reagan: A life in Letters
and then, and only then, get back to me
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InTrade Still Predicts Romney
LoneStarLibertarian Thursday, August 28th at 1:52AM EST (link)I think that Erick is making WAAAAY too much out of this just in order to get people riled up.
Romney is down 12 points, yes, but InTrade still thinks that there is a 54.5% likelihood that Romney will be the VP nominee on a volume of 2,122 in trading as of 7:02 AM on August 27.
Hutchison (NOT “HutchiNson”) is up almost 12 points on a meager volume of 877 to a mere 15% chance of becoming the nominee.
Is there movement? Yes. But there is still nearly a 40% gap between the market’s prediction about who will McCain’s VP.
Personally, I hope to be supporting Mitt Romney for vice president of the United States in 2008, and I hope to be supporting Kay Bailey Hutchison in the GOP primary for Governor of Texas in 2010 because Rick Perry is just a complete idiot.
It is truly amazing that a man with such a vacuous cranium could become the longest-serving governor in the state’s history. I guess it’s a testament to his ability to – while not do anything spectacular – also to stay out of the way and not screw things up, either.
If Kay will at least indicate that she wouldn’t stop universal school choice in Texas, I will be in full support of her.
With Perry, the GOP is in danger of losing the Texas Senate and House – and that could lead to losing some statewide races also. I think that Kay will strengthen the state party.
I agree
bk (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 5:37AM EST (link)When you look at the details on her at the NRLC site, it shows voting the right way 44 times, the wrong way 3, and not voting 2.
The two times she missed votes it was on things she voted the right way on other occasions, so those are good. And of the three wrong ones, two were related to stem cell research and one was that nasty Harkin amendment re Roe.
We can assume it will be easier for people now to vote against embryonic stem cell items as we have seen that other avenues are more promising now anyway.
So as far as I’m concerned the only big blemish is that Harkin vote. But if she’s willing to vote for restrictions, notification, etc., that’s good enough for me. If Roe v Wade stays in place but various restrictions become law and pass SC muster, then haven’t we made a great deal of progress?
The one thing we know for sure is that if Obama is elected, a liberal Supreme Court is set for another generation.
Well then how can you vote for McCain anyway?
bk (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 5:56AM EST (link)NRLC scores:
outside the beltway
ragnarb Thursday, August 28th at 6:21AM EST (link)John McCain must choose a running mate from OUTSIDE THE BELTWAY. KBH? She’s ok, but sorry, too old. Female? Sarah Palin is the answer. Romney, good, but will be savaged again as a Mormon.
Lots of silliness and divination, Eric
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:17AM EST (link)Let’s be honest about the dispositive elements of this issue, shall we? Irrespective of MSM turnabout on Mr. McCain’s forgotten designation as “maverick”, that is one of his foremost qualities. Using this as a heuristic compass it is somewhat easy to conclude that, politics aside, Mr. McCain would have chosen Mr. Lieberman. Yes, Joe has been great on defense issues but is an abortion advocate, big government, big spending bona fide liberal. That should be indicative of just where this VP pick will be ensconced.
Ridge was a trial balloon on the abortion issue; Romney’s team has mostly performed their cheerleading and Pawlenty is little known outside his home state and Evangelical circles. Hutchinson? Please that is just borderline farcical. Cantor? I seem to remember mostly guffaws when opining about Paul Ryan. Beyond the cachinnation, I was also lectured how we need Paul Ryan in Congress; well I feel the same is necessary for Cantor. Cantor has the potential to be the movements new Newt Gingrich in the salad days of our Contract with America. Frankly, overall I really can’t come up with anything he adds to the ticket or as a potential future POTUS; save he is a conservative.
We need a VP that can lead the conservative movement back to prominence and is a potential POTUS candidate. Someone who helps others understand our core values which are shared with a majority of Americas. They also need to restore credibility to our party vis-à-vis consistent adherence and leadership, not some squishy, half heated advocation which breaks down in the face of adversity. Small government, lower taxes, strength through defense, honesty and compassion for others should be a guiding mantra. Let me know when you find that person; I am not sure they have been born yet.
That said, I will revert to my original point, that being, McCain will pick a compromise VP. In deference to the RNC it will be someone who is pro-life. Yet aligning with John’s proclivities, it will be a person that has an ability to
put a thumb in your eyereach across the aisle. Bottom line, they will be a adiaphorous pick. Frankly, I hope to be proven wrong“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
In case the Kaye Bailey balloon is real...
reggie1 Thursday, August 28th at 7:20AM EST (link)Please, please, oh pleasepleasepuhleez- DON’T pick Kaye Bailey Hutchison. Yes, she passes the ideological litmus test. Yes, she would be a competent Veep and (God forbid) Prez.
BUT think about this: Will Hillary’s cross-overs make their first vote for a woman a vote for a Republican?
No.
So, what? Is that so large a contingent to cater to? It’s not their size, it’s their story. While their actual votes won’t tip the scales, their support does. Their initial support did. It has been awhile, but think back to when McCain’s numbers started holding and turning the corner. Remember the stories of those days:
-Bill was a racist for accurately pointing out that most blacks supported Obama.
-Media coverage was critical of or condescending to Hillary (Pants suit-gate, etc.)
That was the birth of “PUMA” and the talk of McCain picking Hillary as his veep. “I’m an independent-slash-undecided, and if Hillary’s supporters won’t vote for Obama then I’ll vote for McCain.” Silly stuff, style not substance, politics not governance.
Nevertheless, a momentum-maker. So, also a momentum-taker.
McCain is Bill Clinton’s “candidate Y” that indies and undies agree with half the time. Don’t take away one of their original motivations to vote for him. Don’t be the candidate that loses. Don’t select Kaye.
Now that's interesting
Gengisdon (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 8:19AM EST (link)I was reading this thread, sort of musing whether or not the Republican base could handle KBH because of her position on abortion, and these numbers surprised me. I went and looked at the NRLC site and it looks like most of the negative votes relate to stem cells, but still, very interesting given the constant furor on this site on that issue.
But the Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world. That says the way is open. That throws it right back on a man. For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.’
That we all have our 'deal-killers'
Right_Again (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 8:58AM EST (link)with McCain with regard to his VP choice speaks volumes to what an unsatisfactory candidate John McCain is.
I do not recall anyone saying they wouldn’t vote for Reagan if he chose a VP candidate they disliked. I do not even recall such carping with the current President Bush or his dad.
Personally my deal-killers would be Huckabee and Leiberman.
What a sad state of affairs for Republicans to have the VP choice mattter so much to so many.
Hmm...,I've never seen that data...Maybe I need to reconsider voting for McCain once again?
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 12:15PM EST (link)If the VP is Pro Choice and McCains numbers are that bad…maybe it IS,/strong> time for a floor fight to replace him.