Okay, so I missed it by one


Tim Kaine appears to be out.

Evan Bayh, who was my fall back choice, just might be it.

Oh, and MITT ROMNEY looks to be the GOP pick. That’s what Mark Halperin says.

The URL is now empty though, but the blurb still exists on the front page of Halperin’s site, along with a note that the New York Times reports people close to the campaign are suggesting General Petraeus as the Veep.

Consider this an open thread.


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For Saturday and Sunday

RedFox84 Friday, August 22nd at 9:48AM EST (link)

Unless the VP for either candidate is actually declared, can we designate that this weekend will be “VP-Speculation Free” here on RedState and declare a moratorium on such?

Of course not!

Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 9:56AM EST (link)

With nothing going on politically right now, we have nothing better to do….

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Don't say that..I have 5 polls and 3 pics in the works

speciallist (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:05AM EST (link)
 
 

Petraeus as VP?

chemjeff (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:06AM EST (link)

Hmm. I’m not sure I’m liking this pick. We already have someone with solid credentials on national security and foreign policy. I don’t know what more Petraeus would bring. I still think it should be a governor.

 

A favor to ask

Brian Simpson (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:08AM EST (link)

I’ve started a different kind of speculation over at The Minority Report:

Who would replace McCain in the Senate should he win?

Anybody with any good guesses would be much appreciated.


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Great EC news

CincoSolas_del_Bronx (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:08AM EST (link)

Rasmussen Reports’ Electoral College Update has been updated for the first time in a month, and shows movement in 10 states, all by one level in the direction of the GOP.

Sweet.

Those dreading urbanization should remember that though the Kingdom of God first appeared in a temporal Garden, at the end of the book it is established in an eternal City. (paraphrase, James M. Boice)

soli Deo gloria

 

Evan Bayh

NotSoBlueStater (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:12AM EST (link)

Is a Democrat a conservative can respect (if not agree with). I’d admire that pick.

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Wasn't my guess the Best?

speciallist (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:21AM EST (link)
 

If these are the picks...

Paul Seale (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:23AM EST (link)

McCain just blew what ever momentum he had. No ifs and or buts.

I dont care what Rove (or even the great maharushie) says – mark my words – Romney as a VP candidate is a bad, bad, bad, VERY bad choice.

Remember all of Barry’s flip-flopping? Heh, nothing compared to many of Romney’s positions – abortion, health care and gun control included.

In the end, I am guessing all those folk up in the North East corridor really dont care about what happens or how those of us in fly over country think.

Trust me when I say that it should be a big, red flag when Huckabee swept the south (sans florida) – and we know the type of candidate he is. (no offense Huck fans)

If Romney is selected (and Bayh), look for Democrats to make significant inroads in the south.

Ok I know this would never happen....but.....

Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:24AM EST (link)

…Wouldn’t it be great if Sheriff Joe Arpaio was the pick!!!

I mean could you even imagine what he would be like in the Senate!!

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 
 

good thing Halperin is such a known idiot, then

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:25AM EST (link)

because it SO BETTER not be Romney.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

Agreed.

Dafyd (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:51AM EST (link)

To borrow from a much loved television show from the 90′s. thwacks Halperin with a frying pan Not the Romney!

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Claiming Copyrights on *Bayh Bayh Barack* n/t

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:54AM EST (link)

Claiming Copyrights on Bayh Bayh Barack n/t

It so better not be because

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 10:59AM EST (link)

Democratic pro-choicer Joe L
Bush retread and pro-choicer Tom R
Sleepy not ready for primetime Tim P
Single moot issue David P

would be sooo much better

I kinda agree with you.

chemjeff (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 11:11AM EST (link)

I’m kinda ambivalent about Romney. Yes he’s flip-flopped on a couple of things. And his Massachusetts socialized health care plan is a disaster. But his flip-flops seem somewhat sincere to me. Nevertheless, there are probably better choices out there. I don’t know much about Pawlenty, does anybody know if he is still being seriously considered? From a purely strategic POV he would be a good pick.

 
 
 

Bayh and Romney

von Friday, August 22nd at 11:17AM EST (link)

Bayh would be a strong choice for Obama. He knows how to win in a red state (Indiana), is regarded as a moderate, and should have good pull with Hillary voters. He’s also relatively young, which complements Obama’s new v. old, change v. same rhetoric. (Nevermind that Bayh has been in the Senate forever.)

Romney would be an absolutely terrible choice from McCain. Aside from an ability to fundraise, what does he bring? He’s perceived strong on economic issues, but that’s based on being a CEO. The mood of the country is a lot more populist than it once was; Romney’s wealth may backfire. Romney barely won MI despite having every advantage and pandering to the upmost. Aside from K-Lo, I don’t seem him helping at all with social conservatives. And he’s flip-flopped out the wazoo.

Huckabee is the guy in the race with whom I have the greatest disagreements, but he would be a much stronger alternative. Ditto Jindal. In fact, I prefer Jindal: Some of his views are nuts (IMHO), but he has a strong record of competency, counters Obama’s change strength, and, unlike the good Pastor, knows something about economics.

For we have a peculiar power of thinking before we act, and of acting, too, whereas other men are courageous from ignorance but hesitate upon reflection.

On the other hand

von Friday, August 22nd at 11:30AM EST (link)

FiveThirtyEight notes that Romney helps in Colorado, http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/romney-demographics-over-narrative.html, which is probably correct. I’ll revise my remarks to “Romney is a [strike 'absolutely'] terrible choice.”

For we have a peculiar power of thinking before we act, and of acting, too, whereas other men are courageous from ignorance but hesitate upon reflection.

 
 

It appears Redstate is still

hazard Friday, August 22nd at 11:30AM EST (link)

hostile territory to Romney. It seems Romney can do nothing right and appears to be the thorn in many redsater’s sides. It’s a shame becasue aside from this site there’s a lot of enthusiasm out there from him. I hope the directors will treat the Romney haters the same way they treated the McCain haters when Mitt becomes the VP.

 

Romney = Bad

Ronald Daniels (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 11:30AM EST (link)

While I don’t doubt Romney’s ability to fulfill the job, I honestly think him being tacked on would violate Mr. Rove’s one rule: “Do no harm.”

I don’t dislike Romney that much myself, but some of the more rural folk I know are vehemently aganist him.

 

Jeez

jimmuy8 (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 11:55AM EST (link)

Throw out the name “Romney” and rabidness ensues.

Really? Flip-flopping? You think anyone is buying that’s the true rational? The self-same “I hate flip-floppers” want everyone to believe that they are going to vote for McCain? McCain of Comprehensive Immigration Reform, McCain of Gang of 14, McCain the Maverick whose harshest words have been reserved for Republicans? This guy is now “Party-line Pure?”

Flip-flops are worse than Poke-the-Party-in-the-Eye?

Yeah, I’m not buying it–if one can swallow McCain, then Romney is a mere teaspoonful.

 

How about a different job for Romney?

youthgrunt (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 1:24PM EST (link)

I wouldn’t be opposed to Romney at VP–certainly higher on my list than Liberman! But what about putting Romney in charge of the RNC?

 

How to make the case for school choice in 6 minutes

Brian Simpson (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 1:30PM EST (link)

and take some healthy shots at government involvement in general


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You did not mention a McCain flip-flip.

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 2:02PM EST (link)

John McCain was Gang of 14, immigration reform, campaign finance reform, because they were things in which he believed.

Romney’s problem is entirely different. He expressed support for one side of an issue then switched when it became convenient to do so. Some people cannot trust someone like that.

And Romney is the only candidate for the GOP Presidential nomination of whom I can think who has opently attacked Ronald Reagan since the 1980 primaries.

Romney’s problems are manifest.

You mean flip flops like

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 2:14PM EST (link)

McCain and off shore drilling
McCain and Bush tax cuts
McCain and the border fence

How about the thousand Obama flip flops.

No one is going to attack a veep for old flip flops, especially not Obama. It would be good if he did because it would open up a pandora’s box of Republican attacks.

Petraeus in 2012

RJD (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 2:28PM EST (link)

Petraeus in 2012 with Cantor, Jindal or Palin as VP…

Any insights into Petraeus’ views?

Good idea

justatron (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 2:38PM EST (link)

I remember thinking after he dropped out that Romney, although I wasn’t a big fan of him, would make a good RNC Chairman. I’d love to watch Romney take on Dean. That’d be hilarious.

I have no problem personally with Romney as VP, but I do know a number of McCain-leaning independents who would. Whether their dislike of Romney would overcome their dislike of Obama in the end remains to be seen, but Mitt might be a (minor, perhaps) issue with indys.

I agree.. sort of.

kllyhlls (Diary) Friday, August 22nd at 3:22PM EST (link)

I’m not a HUGE Romney fan and, like a lot of conservatives, I’m not a HUGE McCain fan. But to stop/slow Socialism, I’ll be supporting McCain no matter his VP choice.

With that said, I think adding Romney to the ticket will be a good thing. I don’t see him hurting the ticket much and I see benefits to adding a very articulate speaker and businessman.

I think we have to remember that many people came to see Romney as a flip-flopper during the primaries. During the General election things will be a little bit different.

During the primaries Romney’s opponents said he wasn’t conservative enough and used the more liberal actions he took in Massachusetts to paint him as a flip-flopper. The democrats can’t attack Romney for being too liberal. To them, that’s a good thing.

Also, during the primaries, Romney had his share of questions from the leftist in the media. They painted him as a flip-flopper for sliding to the right while in office in MA. Attacking him for being conservative might play well with the Leftists, but not most Americans.

I might be getting fooled or might be overly optimistic, but his speech at CPAC made me believe that he really is a conservative.

K