I didn’t like your show, got annoyed with your comments more than a few times, but like anyone else I don’t like in the media, I respected your right to speak your mind. What is really bothering me right now is the fact that I’m finding myself in agreement with Michelle Malkin on your departure.
Bluntly, it is a matter of so much [redacted]. Admittedly, it’s not as bad as political correctness running amok, but it’s not far off. As far as hate language goes, the term “bitch” as applied to women was considered nearly as incendiary as the n-word, and has since been claimed from that infamy by women. Initially that transition typically allowed for only women to use the word without fear of being accused of using it with malicious intent. And that is theoretically where society is with the n-word. But I keep thinking that is just as much the fault of the editors of our dictionaries, as anyone else.
There used to be a point where the n-word had the potential to end up with one of the same meanings as the word bitch. The context is when referring to working environments, where the word bitch is equated with the word slave. I was actually raised in the family that used the n-word to describe the lowest level of laborers, regardless of race, because they had the hardest or dirtiest jobs for the lowest pay. But that use appears to have been lost to society today, since just about every reference I could find linked the term to race, as opposed to stature in the workplace. And bluntly, that makes absolutely no sense. The term was originally used to describe slaves, and was dropped from civil discourse shortly after slavery was abolished. The irony is that the attempt to grant some semblance of respect to newly freed slaves through language, opened the door to hate speech against them.
But Dr. Laura, in spite of generally being an annoying pain in my eyes over the years, was wrong to apologize. She pointed out a greater truth – we’re stuck in the middle of a verbal minefield, at the mercy of people that are clinging to separatist ideologies that demand special treatment as opposed to seeking true equality. Well, speaking as a female – another “minority group” that is theoretically granted that special treatment – I don’t give a damn what people call me. It would be a challenge for anyone to come up with terms that are worse than the ones that have flown so easily from the lips of men I’ve had romantic entanglements with in the past. It doesn’t bother me, because I learned a long time ago that in the end, it’s all just words. I give those words power – or I can choose to consider the source, and either outright ignore them or laugh them off. I’m guessing that’s what Dr. Laura was trying to say to her histrionic caller. The answer isn’t in finding a way to change others, it is in changing the way we react to the actions of others. And when it comes to derogatory terms, grown-ups ignore childish outbursts.
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Nigg[*]r, Nigga, Nigra, Nigress, Negroid... There, have I used all the "N-words?" [sanitized]
minncon (Diary) Wednesday, August 18th at 11:17AM EST (link)[People like to read this site at work, you know. - Moe Lane]
…Oh, I forgot Neger (Dutch), nèg (Creole), Negro (Spanish and Portugese for “black”. Niger (Latin for “black”), Νέγρο (Greek for “black”), negrito (Phillippines), негр (Russian for “negr”, and neekeri (Finnish)…
This infantile use of the term “N-word” to refer to the perjorative “Nigg[*]r” just reaffirms that we are still not comfortable talking about racial issues. We are still children in this regard.
It makes me so angry I could [S-word]!
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G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, August 18th at 11:19AM EST (link)There, that’s RedState for “I’m turning off your account for trolling.”
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Thank you Neil
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 18th at 11:49AM EST (link)I’ve wondered where this guy is coming from. His disgusting remark about the 17 thousand dead Liberal women, and his idiotic diary agreeing with the Dems that the Bush Tax cuts should expire, and now his senseless and useless comment above, may just be why he is a “former” corporate communicator.
I dunno, Scope.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 18th at 11:59AM EST (link)This post was way over the line, no argument.
The line about 17 thousand dead women I took to mean that there was an argument – possibly blue-on-blue or “mama grizzly” campaign ads – to question the decision.
As for tax cuts, none of that matters until we get a more predictable regulatory environment.
Just sayin’, while this was a post too far, and I agree with Neil’s use of the ban-hammer, the rest of it I’m not sure about.
Mew
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acat- You may have been able to determine
Scope (Diary) Wednesday, August 18th at 1:06PM EST (link)a particular meaning or message with minncon’s comment-
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Wait a minute…is that $17.5K dead LIBERAL women?
OK, OK, that’s a bad joke. But it needed to be made.
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The only sick message I was able to decipher is that he was making, what he himself knew to be, a bad joke in getting rid of LIBERAL women, by means of death. The Avastin ban, is not a political issue, between Liberals and Republicans. It is the issue of the beginning of Ocare rationing of a drug for all women.
It appears that minncon is doing his dangest to show how not politically correct he is, but, is taking it to a level that truly is politically incorrect, and not necessary.
As to his Bush tax cut diary, his reasoning seemed to be that even if the tax cuts continue, the additional money in the pockets of Americans, will not do anything to stimulate the economy. He claimed the taxpayers would just pay off old debt or squirrel the money away somehow. The unemployment rate is very high, and, in fact is climbing. It is difficult for people to pay their mortgage/rent payments, buy food, buy medicines and etc, and, the meager amount of unemployment compensation, for many, doesn’t stretch that far. Unemployment monies are taxable federally. To tax the people even more, means less cash to provide for even just necessities. To increase taxes means that businesses, especially those that are S Corps., will have less money to expand and hire more people, or to even keep the employees they already have.
Yes I agree that the first step is to remove the economic uncertainty, and to remove those from office that have caused the uncertainty, however, I don’t believe minncon addressed that angle. For the government to collect more in taxes does not mean that they would lower the deficit with the additional revenues. They would simply dig deeper in the pot for additional Socialistic legislation, or, they would provide additional funding for those special interest groups to keep electing Democrats.
minncon claims to be a conservative, however, I find it hard to believe that any conservative would be in favor of higher taxes, especially when they would be used for destructive purposes.
You're right on the tax issue, Scope.
acat (Diary) Wednesday, August 18th at 2:09PM EST (link)And the “joke” was more of “hey, there’s a spark of an idea in there”…
(imagine an ad, or even a Facebook rant by Sarah Palin, pointing out the hypocrisy in removing government funding for a drug that *works*, ensuring that the women who suffer most are the ones the Libs claim to want to help…)
So, not sure if minncon was a deliberate troll, or just someone with a darker sense of humor than mine and a non-functioning brain–keyboard filter. In either case, I support Neil’s verdict.
Mew
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I just read what she said
Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, August 18th at 11:43AM EST (link)Huh, that’s it? I guess saying a word in discussion of the use if the word is worse than openly calling for the killing of people and babies of a certain white race.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
Hey Scope - Why All the HATE?
minncon (Diary) Sunday, August 22nd at 9:02AM EST (link)Hey Mr. Scope:
Sorry to sour your milk on this fine Sunday morning, but now that I’ve been reinstated, I want to address your gleeful screed about my banishment in which you call into question my 1) logic, 2) conservative credentials; and 3) attempt a lame joke about my employment situation.
Allow me to refute two of your keen “insights,” offered blindly, since you apparently never read my diary piece before pounding out your comment:
YOU: “I’ve wondered where this guy is coming from. His disgusting remark about the 17 thousand dead Liberal women, and his idiotic diary agreeing with the Dems that the Bush Tax cuts should expire, and now his senseless and useless comment above, may just be why he is a “former” corporate communicator.”
—> My “disgusting remark” of 17,000 dead liberals? Oh yes, I really meant that. Wow. Lighten up.
—> My piece might explain why I am a “former” corporate communicator? (As I describe myself in my diary.) Nice. Clever.
—> My “idiotic diary” agreeing with the Dems that the Bush Tax cuts should expire. Really? I said that? No, I didn’t, and that wasn’t the point of the argument. In fact, one of the key sentences that might have clued you to the fact that I was against letting them expire was:
ME: “Allowing the Bush cuts to expire WILL be the policy equivalent of tossing an anvil to a drowning man. It will make us sink all that much faster.”
But wait… you DO seem to get my point later, in a reply in which you say:
YOU: “As to his Bush tax cut diary, his reasoning seemed to be that even if the tax cuts continue, the additional money in the pockets of Americans, will not do anything to stimulate the economy…”
Darn right. If we leave the same crowd in charge of D.C., letting people keep more of their own money won’t do SQUAT to STIMULATE things.
YOU: “Yes I agree that the first step is to remove the economic uncertainty, and to remove those from office that have caused the uncertainty, however, I don’t believe minncon addressed that angle.”
Ouch. You caught me – I really “buried” that thought in my original post, in which I said:
“In truth, this is a malady with only one prescription: to change doctors!”
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“No, tax cuts won’t work this time because the depth of worry has become too great – Americans know Obama and his crew do not believe in business as the engine of economic growth.”
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“[When business leaders] believe that economic illiterates are no longer in charge in Washington, and that a business-friendly government has returned to America, they will begin to spend some of that cash they’re sitting on.”
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“Wasn’t it a recent incoming Speaker who stated her number one mission was to “drain the swamp” that is Washington? Draining that swamp – not tossing a “tax cut sandbag” here and there – is the ONLY way to return our economy to solid ground.”
You’re right. My fault. I should have been clearer.
YOU: “minncon claims to be a conservative, however, I find it hard to believe that any conservative would be in favor of higher taxes, especially when they would be used for destructive purposes.”
Yes, I ADORE higher taxes (this is sarcasm, is case you don’t recognize it.) But then again, I didn’t CALL for higher taxes, did I?
Oh, and if you want, I can email you a copy of my “Conservative Club” membership card. I’ll show you mine, if you’ll show me yours.
During my “downtime,” I’ve had a chance to read some of your diary. And I feel I know you much better now. Wish you’d afford me the same courtesy.
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