Climb back in off the ledge folks…you need to make room for Nancy.


Ok, boys & girls, I know these last 72 hours have been gutwrenching. The future of the Republic may hang in the balance. The Fabian Dems are throwing everything including the kitchen sink at this unconstitutional takeover of 1/6th of the American economy and their lapdogs in the media are dutifully lapping up the vomit they are spewing and spitting it right back out at us.

The spin has come fast and furious and all those CongressCritters who voted “yes” last time, and then conveniently decided that they were “undecided” have come rushing to the fore with the media trumpeting their every ‘conversion’ to create an air of inevitability. This has left those of us who have been fighting this with every fiber of our being looking in the liquor cabinet for our favorite adult beverage and crawling out to the ledge of our abode in anticipation of the dismantling of that for which our forefathers fought and died.

Folks, it’s time to come in off the ledge because SanFranNan, Dingy Harry & His Excellency need the space that you’re occupying. About an hour ago, I decided to take a step back from the dizzying array of numbers coming out and adopt the KISS method and here, my fellow warriors, is where we are at.

For those of you who don’t wish to trudge through the feature presentation, I’ll give you a sneak peak at the ending – The Marxist triumvarate need to draw an inside straight to actually pull this off.

No, I haven’t been nipping at the brandy (ok, to be honest, I did go downstairs and find my best friend “Jack”). But here’s the deal. Screw all these names coming out; here’s the bottom line. HCR passed the first time on a vote of 220 – 215. Since then, 4 members have departed the House (some voluntarily, others forced out by scandal; one at room temperature (so how’s the weather down there, Jack?)) They comprised 3 yes votes and 1 no.

So, if everyone voted exactly the same as they did the first time, the vote would be 217 – 214. Cao, the lone Republican to vote yes last time (with the Speaker’s permission) is a solid no this time. Score: 216 – 215. The Botox Queen ain’t got any wriggle room right out of the gate.

No matter what kind of bilge the Dems and the media (but I repeat myself) have been spewing, the only thing that matters are the numbers of votes that have changed since the November vote. And here, sports fans, is where we’re at on this. There have been 7 “no’s” that have flipped to “yes” (the traitors are: Boccieri-OH, Boyd-FL, Gordon-TN, Kosmos-FL, Kucinich-OH, Markey-CO, and Murphy-NY). Score at the end of the first quarter? 223 – 208.

However, there have been ten yes-to-no switches (the heroes are, with the Stupak group in italics: Arcuri-NY, Berry-AR, Costello-IL, Donnelly-IN, Driehaus-IN, Lipinski-IL, Lynch-MS, Rahall-WV, Stupak-MI, Space-OH). That makes the half-time score 213-218, the Good Guys.

There are 4 no-to-yes possibilities left: Baird-WA (ret.), Tanner-TN (ret.), Davis-TN, Nye-VA (Update – Nye is a No; that means Nan’s gotta get all 3 of ‘em and folks from TN are saying Davis is solid. In addition, Sanchez -CA is AWOL in Florida somewhere, voted against the Slaughter Solution earlier this week and has told folks she’s a ‘no’ and she hasn’t been on anybody’s radar screen). Simple math tells you that if all 10 yes-to-no’s hold, the Botox Queen has to get 3 of these 4 to win the game. If you assume that she gets both Baird & Tanner because they’re retiring and they don’t need a ‘get of jail free’ card, that means she has to get either Davis or Nye (I think that’s why Davis has been in seclusion the last few days. The pressure has been intense and if he announces as a ‘no’ he can’t go back and the gig is probably over)

If SFN can’t get one of those two, she has to flip one of the Stupak 7 who have declared opposition. But it gets even harder for her. There are still (per FDL) 9 undecideds. Among those 9 are 3 Stupak members: Dahlkamper (R +3), Mollohan (R+9) and Kaptur (D+10). She can’t lose any of those 3 or she has to pry either a firm ‘no’ to a yes (and anybody flipping back to yes right now would be absolute toast in November) or pry off another Stupak member. So if you want to know why she lowered herself to negotiate with Stupak again last night at the risk of infuriating the pro-abortion crowd…now you know.

She. Can’t. Win. This. Without. The. Pro-Life. Democrats (is that the ultimate in irony or what)

I’ll make this even easier on you. FireDogLake is showing:  ”Firm Yes” – 205; “Firm No” – 207; “Leaning No” – 10;     “Undecided” – 9. Simple math tells you Nan’s got to get all 9 undecideds (which include 3 Stupak members) and 2 of the 10 “Leaning No’s”.

Now, I haven’t spent enough time with my buddy Jack to think that this ain’t doable for the utterly corrupt, lying, conniving, bribing, Constitution-hating gang of Marxists ’cause the pressure on some folks for the next 18 hours will be beyond anything we can imagine. This ain’t over till it’s over.

But just out of courtesy for the less fortunate, you may want to step back off the ledge. I think there just may be some people who need the space more than you.


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Clear analysis, hope-inducing conclusion

Lartius (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 11:18PM EST (link)

and it certainly is a happy note on which to go to sleep. Instead, I’ll probably just keep browsing the net for more rumors and information for a while . . . but I might just come back and read this again before drifting off.

The news is even better now. With Nye a 'yes', she has *got*

eburke (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 11:44PM EST (link)

to get Davis. And if they can’t find Sanchez in time, that won’t even be enough.

If you live in TN, or *anywhere* for that matter, pound Davis’s office!

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

I Think You Mean "With Nye a 'No'"... (nt)

IJB Saturday, March 20th at 11:55PM EST (link)

aaarrrggghhh!! I'm starting to get giddy and brain dead

eburke (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:06AM EST (link)

(I’m sure my buddy ‘Jack’ here has nothing to do with that :-)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

 
 
 
 

Just the mere thought

chbroussard (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 11:42PM EST (link)

that there’s the slightest chance these people are going to fall off the cliff assures that I will be sleeping like a baby tonight.

 

Issues ...

acat (Diary) Saturday, March 20th at 11:50PM EST (link)

Absolutely climb off the ledge. Getting irrational doesn’t help anyone, and the Right can’t afford to start losing people to strokes and cardiac problems.

If they push this garbage through, the lawsuits start immediately, holding it up until the elections in November.

I am thinking, though, that Nancy doesn’t know which way this is going to go, so .. she’s playing bifurcated kabuki…

Mew

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“All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost”. –Tolkein

 

Good Diary - A Couple of Minor Typos/Corrections

IJB Saturday, March 20th at 11:58PM EST (link)

First, (Betsy) Markey is D-CO, not D-OH.

And Marcy Kaptur’s OH-09 district is a D+10, not an R+6, district.

But the rest of your analysis is sound.

Thanks, IJB. Must have transcribed my notes incorrectly.

eburke (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:07AM EST (link)

Changes are on the way!

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

Good STUFF!!

RealQuiet (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:15AM EST (link)

If Lincoln Davis holds true to these callers that his staff has been telling him no and the pro-lifers hold, game over.

What about Executive Order news of last few mins?

FortitudineVincimus (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:23AM EST (link)

Throughout the day there have been reports about an executive order to secure the votes of the pro-life group as well as how this is a no go. I was wondering if anyone had thoughts on what Kathryn Lopez (NRO) and First Things blog are reporting in the last few mins. Hopefully just more of the confusion that has reigned today.

Lopez (http://tinyurl.com/yzaet6t): “EO sounds like it’s being agreed to.”

First Things: “Deal just cut. Stupak on board. Executive order enabled by colloquy on the floor. No language yet, but supposedly forbids Community Health Center money from being used for abortion and prevents anyone who takes govt subsidy from buying into plan that covers abortion. I cannot see how they are getting all this. Must not be whole story, or a hole somewhere. Will report more when I know it.” (http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/03/20/the-good-fight/)

Whatever way this is going, I’ll be on my knees tonight.

Haven't been able to verify that on FDL, the Hill

eburke (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:27AM EST (link)

or anywhere else. ‘Bout 4 hours ago, the word was that an EO wouldn’t satisfy Stupak or the rest of his caucus.

With all the BS flying around out there, I’ll right before I go back out on the ledge.

Prayers, baby, prayers that Bart won’t put the lives of innocent babies into the hands of the most pro-abortion president in our history.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

Bill Clinton brought into lean on Marion Berry.

RealQuiet (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:37AM EST (link)

Don’t know if it will do any good.

 
 

Oh crap!! Don't tell me Stupak fell for the useless Executive Order

RealQuiet (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:36AM EST (link)

The Catholic Bishops and pro-life groups are totally against that and have released such statements. We’re right there.

No, Stupak didn't fall for the stupid executive order bit

JSobieski (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:42AM EST (link)

nt

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

What worries me is Lopez and this website are saying the same thing. Someone has to call these pro-lifers' offices and see what is up.

RealQuiet (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:45AM EST (link)

What a night

 

He did if Stephen Dillard's "source" is correct. nt

Menlo (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:45AM EST (link)

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

Looks like a second source confirms Stupak has caved. nt

Menlo (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:19AM EST (link)

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

Nice link you provided ,

JSobieski (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:29AM EST (link)

Where are you getting your “information”?

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

The two posted above by FortitudineVincimus (nt)

Menlo (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:32AM EST (link)

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

weak sauce

speciallist (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:44AM EST (link)

why don’t you bring a link? or maybe bring something positive?

There have been so many incorrect stories about Stupak caving

JSobieski (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:49AM EST (link)

See last night for the last batch, I would strongly suggest taking a deep breath and see what we can learn in the morning.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

 

Updates

FortitudineVincimus (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:51AM EST (link)

Two new updates have been made on the First Things blog I mentioned above(http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/03/20/the-good-fight/). I’d at least like to know if this had any truth to it because it determines where to focus the fire. If Stupak does make a deal that he is comfortable with, it is possible the pro-abortion crowd will bolt (as Lopez reports: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjIxZjE1NTVjNDEzMzE2NzZlZjFhM2FkMjBkNjE3ODA=).

In that NRO link, the pro-aborts are discussing the reinsertion of Stupak's language.

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:57AM EST (link)

I didn’t see any mention of the Executive Order possibility.

So what are we talking about now? Reinsertion of Stupak or an EO? Did Stupak fall for the EO ruse or is he trying to get his language re-added?

The mystery continues…

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

 

I smell BS with this source

RealQuiet (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:58AM EST (link)

I wonder if this is a Dem operative planting depress/inevitability crap.

Been a long night.

redneck_hippie (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:05AM EST (link)

Until I hear otherwise, and I won’t because I’m going to bed, I am going to guess that the EO was agreed to by the pro choicers. They are the only ones that I heard of who bought into it. Why wouldn’t they? Obama had his fingers crossed when he wrote it.


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

 
 

Is Guantanamo Bay closed yet?

hickorystick (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:01AM EST (link)

is the question to pose on HuffPo for any that go there. Remind the lefties of all the broken promises by Obama and see if they don’t pop. Also ask if the EO reduces back channels of funding abortions.

 

I think the EO "deal" is unfounded

RealQuiet (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:08AM EST (link)

I don’t know about this source. Stupak would be royally stupid to fall for that. Buck the Catholic church and pro-life groups, his principles, ALL for a worthless executive order after holding so strong throughout this? If he did this, he should get an Oscar for acting and would be one of the most ridiculed people that ever lived. Probably pretty close to Benedict Arnold and worse than Ben Nelson.

Agreed...

discerningconservative (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:14AM EST (link)

Any Congresscritter should know that an EO has no lasting effect. Any President (including Obama) can override it with a new EO. If the so called “pro-life dems” fall for this, it shows that they never intended to stand for Pro-Life principles in the first place.

According to NRO, Stupak wasn't even a participant of the discussions

JSobieski (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:17AM EST (link)

All Night Long [Robert Costa]

Senior Dem staffer says abortion/executive order deliberations will take place tonight at the White House.

Stupak won’t be there… Dem staffer says “this still isn’t nailed down”

03/20 08:38 PMShare

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

Then how or why would people assume he fell for this trick?

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:27AM EST (link)

I mean if he had been there, at least there would have been reason to think he had been manipulated.

But I really don’t think that there can be any real agreement between Stupak and the likes of Rep. Diana DeGette…and since she agrees with the EO strategy, “that’s an iron-clad guarantee it’s no real alternative for any member who calls himself “pro-life,” KLO said.

I’ve not seen anything that’d suggest he’d fall for this anymore than he has the other gimmicks Pelosi and friends have tried. And frankly, I’d be willing to wager he’s probably personally ticked off that they have continually insulted his intelligence although I’m sure he’d never say that outloud.

So until I see Dan Perrin say in big, block letters that Stupak’s a dupe, I simply don’t have any reason to believe it.

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

 
 
 
 

I think the Stupak language would be hard for Obama to swallow

JSobieski (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:54AM EST (link)

But if Stupak is considering an EO as the solution to this, I am terrribly disappointed. He knows that an EO cannot contradict a statute, and that an EO can be terminated as easily as it is issued.

Stupak needs to remember that the Dems actually want to fund abortions.

Lets keep our fingers crossed.

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

The latest news on the Executive Order issue--15 minutes ago

JSobieski (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 3:08AM EST (link)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/22/health/policy/22health.html

“The speaker on Saturday rejected a proposal by Representative Bart Stupak, Democrat of Michigan and a leader of the abortion opponents, to revise the abortion provisions after the bill was adopted, a step that is typically used to make minor or technical changes and that requires approval of both the House and the Senate.

Instead, Democratic officials said they were pursuing the idea of promising that Mr. Obama would issue an executive order prohibiting the use of taxpayer money for abortions. They said that approach would not mollify Mr. Stupak but could win the support of others still undecided because of their views on abortion.

Ms. Pelosi said she would not allow separate votes on abortion or other controversial issues. “Not on abortion, not on public option, not on single-payer, not on anything,” she said.

Behind the scenes, Ms. Pelosi was working aggressively to address the concerns of anti-abortion Democrats. She met with at least three of those lawmakers — Representatives Christopher Carney and Kathy Dahlkemper of Pennsylvania and Steve Driehaus of Ohio — none of whom had publicly committed their vote.”

My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.

STOP THE MADNESS!

A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!

In short they're saying Stupak won't fall for this but maybe we can sucker some of his bloc.

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 3:22AM EST (link)

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

 

So Pelosi hopes that there are dumber congressmen than Stupak in his bloc

RealQuiet (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 3:39AM EST (link)

Typical Pelosi. We’ve got their names and I’m sure the Catholic Bishops and pro-life groups will really be holding their feet to the fire today.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Davis

Justin_Case (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:18AM EST (link)

will vote “no”. Especially if a possible “yes” vote happens to be the deciding one.

I attended a meeting in 1999 when he was presented an award by Lloyd Daugherty of the Tennessee Conservative Union. He is a throwback to the old Southern Democrats-a Dixiecrat-and will not forget his roots.

Bless you, Justin. Where've you been?

janis (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:23AM EST (link)

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen your name here, although I’ve been absent a lot myself. As for what you say about Davis, that’s my take, too. My guess is that he is not retiring like Gordon or Tanner, and represents a conservative district, so if he wants his job again, he’s got to vote “No.”

It’s good to see you again!

Thanks.

Justin_Case (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:34AM EST (link)

It’s always good to be “missed”. I check out RS several times a day, but haven’t been inclined to post much. There hasn’t been a need, really, due to the influx of recent members who have been so informative.

In the case of Lincoln Davis, I believe that a bit of my insight might be useful. Glad you agree.

Thanks again for the kind words, Janis.

You're more than welcome, Justin.

janis (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:41AM EST (link)

Like you, I read more these days than I comment. For the same reasons you listed. That, and there’s so much to take in that it’s sometimes all I can do just to keep up. And then there are those days when the news is so dreadful that I don’t want to keep up…..

Tomorrow will be both, I think.

 
 
 
 

We need to send this picture to any "undecideds"

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:27AM EST (link)

I faxed a letter to the undecideds today that included the picture below and the following sentiment:

[blockquote]Why would the Senate put themselves through a grueling, time consuming process just to ease your concerns about a bill they were satisfied with?

If you pass the Senate bill in the House, it will go to the President and be signed into law.

The President will declare victory and the Senate will move on to other pressing matters.

You will forever be tied to the Senate bill and you will have no cover.

[b]The Senate does not have to take up your bill. They only need you to believe that they will.[/b]

Why do you have such confidence in the Senate? Do you really trust the Senate that much? How many times do they have to leave you hanging before you recognize when you’re being set up?
[/blockquote]

[img]http://i40.tinypic.com/qnv4fa.jpg[/img]

//

This is a cultural reference that’s easily identifiable to pretty much everyone. People recognize Charlie Brown the dupe and Lucy who suckers him with false promises and empty commitments.

Sound familiar?

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

GAH. I don't have the correct formatting rules for this site yet.

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:29AM EST (link)

I’ll try again:

Why would the Senate put themselves through a grueling, time consuming process just to ease your concerns about a bill they were satisfied with?

If you pass the Senate bill in the House, it will go to the President and be signed into law.

The President will declare victory and the Senate will move on to other pressing matters.

You will forever be tied to the Senate bill and you will have no cover.

The Senate does not have to take up your bill. They only need you to believe that they will.

Why do you have such confidence in the Senate? Do you really trust the Senate that much? How many times do they have to leave you hanging before you recognize when you’re being set up?

http://i40.tinypic.com/qnv4fa.jpg

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

Mary Beth if you use Firefox and the

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:31AM EST (link)

Formatting Toolbar addin it will solve 99% of your formatting problems.

I do use FF and I'll give that a looksee. Thank you!

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:35AM EST (link)

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

Mary Beth here's the Text Formatting Toolbar link...

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:10AM EST (link)

http://codefisher.org/format_toolbar/

Works like a charm.

Use the codefisher link, not the FF addin link at the FF website. The codefisher link always has the latest version, the FF is usually one behind.

Just installed it. Very shiny! Thx again.

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:25AM EST (link)

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

 
 
 
 
 
 

Okay I give. How do you post an image in a comment?

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:30AM EST (link)

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

Try...

discerningconservative (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:33AM EST (link)

{img src=”url address”/}

but use greater than and less than signs instead of { and }

Alright...let's see here. This is the image I was speaking of above:

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 12:36AM EST (link)

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

I'm glad you stuck with it

hickorystick (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:27AM EST (link)

That cartoon brought a smile.

Thanks :) Does it or does it not represent exactly what Obama/Pelosi/Reid are doing to gullible House dems??

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:29AM EST (link)

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

Yes, it does

hickorystick (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 1:39AM EST (link)

Their promises are like trying to hold the wind. There is now way the Senate is going to take another vote on this. Elections!
In the next few days I hope to see Snoopy cursing the Red Baron.

 
 
 
 

You mean this image ;)

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:02AM EST (link)

Bwahaahaa! Gold!

Mary Beth (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:10AM EST (link)

The Charlie Brown/Lucy/football scenario is exactly what I see in my mind whenever I hear them talking about how they PROMISE to go through recon in the Senate.

They even presented a letter!

An unsigned letter.

If any House Dem falls for this, they need to be politically put down due to a fatal case of the stupids.

“A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.” ~ Ronald Reagan

Exactly. Hmmm...What will POR (Pelosi/Obama/Reid) do when

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:15AM EST (link)

the Senate bill is the law of the land?

Push the bill one angstrom to the center? Gimme a break.

 
 
 
 
 

It comes down to the following 3 Members of Congress:

houstoneagle (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 2:04AM EST (link)

–Baird
–Berry
–Kanjorski

Exclusive of those 3, I peg the vote at 213 in favor and 215 against. Pelosi needs all 3. Of those 3, only Kanjorski is running for re-election.

I took Code Red’s list, which shows it at 212-212-7. I read every one of the seven wikipedia bios showing how they fared in their past elections versus the presidential vote, whether they are prolife, and also checked latest news twitters on each of them.

That gave me courage to put 3 of the undecideds in the “against” camp (Dahlkemper, Davis, and McMahon). I was surprised to see McMahon as an undecided, because multiple sources said he already declared “no.” Dahlkemper is very active in Catholic causes, is prolife and progun rights, and her original yes vote was along the lines of Stupak’s original yes vote. Lincoln Davis’s district went for Obama by 29 points, and it appears he is running for re-election, so if he wants to win in November he would have to vote no. If he is willing to commit political suicide, then this obviously is not the case. Pomeroy: there was nothing in what I read that gave me any pause to think that he would vote no. He has no difficulty in getting elected and re-elected every 2 years. There is the whole Bank of ND deal. I think that one is a yes. Although who knows, he could say no and Davis say yes.

So as for the 3 who are truly, imho, “undecided”:
–Baird–every indicator is he is voting no; he already voted no, he told the president he wants to do a “broad rewrite.” Yet he is not running for re-election. So what would it hurt for him to give Nancy his vote if she is one shy right before the gavel? Truly toss-up.
–Berry–already voted YES, and he’s not running for re-election. But he was critical of Obama and is a true blue dog. If only one of these 3 undecideds go with Pelosi, you can bet it’s Berry. Toss up.
–Kanjorski–I’m not sure if he voted yes in November for similar reasons and with similar concerns as Stupak, or if he liked it for other reasons. I didn’t take the time to research that. He is 72 years old; he won in 2008 by only 4 points even though Obama carried his district easily. He has to know the Obama base surge won’t save him in 2010, and that it would be an extremely hard re-election slog for him if he votes for this again. However, he has a history of speaking out loudly against sweetheart deals for other districts and states, so that combined with he doesnt want to kill his re-election chances puts it from “yes” to “truly undecided.”

“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010

Kanjorski is as corrupt as any

Scope (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 7:56AM EST (link)

Democrat. In 2008 Barletta was beating him in PA for several weeks, and then K brought in ACORN in the last week. He squeaked out the win. Remember H. Clinton and Biden both campaigning in his district. They both claimed they had roots there, because they visited there once or twice, or had a 14th cousin or something there. Kanjorski was known to have used earmarked money to pay his wife and kid. If Kanjorski ever spoke out about sweetheart deals, he was just being a typical hypocritical Liberal. I don’t know if Barletta will challenge him again, but, if he does, this time (anti-Democrat anti-Incumbent) he has a much better chance. If Kanjorski is still undecided, it’s only because he is waiting for his back room deal. I’d put Kanjorski in the yes column.

 

McMahon a "no"

mikeleader (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 10:52AM EST (link)

rock solid assurances from his senior staff people and I believe them!

mikeleader

 
 

Any news on Soloman Ortiz?

treeofliberty Sunday, March 21st at 7:25AM EST (link)

He’s listed as a potential “Yes to No” flipper and there has been speculation that he is a closet Stupak – bloc member.

Goes without saying how wonderful it would be if we could get just one more “Yes to No” flip, I cautiously submit that might just about seal any hope the Queen B has of getting to 216

 

Never been on that ledge, actually.

america1st (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 8:09AM EST (link)

But I’ll gladly ensure the 3 stooges have a front row position and would even more gladly give them a push.

Logic in the mind of a liberal is like a snowflake in the desert: lost, alone and soon destroyed by a hostile environment.

Touche'! -nt-

eburke (Diary) Sunday, March 21st at 9:28AM EST (link)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

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