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	<title>Comments on: My next vehicle purchase will DEFINITELY be a Toyota</title>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of mechanical breakdowns causing injury or death - I am sure that GM would beat Toyota hands down.

While I am sure Toyota might have some problems - the Obama administration is making a mountain out of a molehill.

GM &amp; the UAW&#039;s day will come. And it is probably closer than Obama thinks it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of mechanical breakdowns causing injury or death &#8211; I am sure that GM would beat Toyota hands down.</p>
<p>While I am sure Toyota might have some problems &#8211; the Obama administration is making a mountain out of a molehill.</p>
<p>GM &amp; the UAW&#8217;s day will come. And it is probably closer than Obama thinks it is.</p>
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		<title>By: spinnyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>spinnyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for still believing in us! ( I also love my 3 Toyotas)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for still believing in us! ( I also love my 3 Toyotas)</p>
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		<title>By: spinnyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>spinnyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when Toyota came to Ky the then Governor Martha Layne Collins made as part of the incentive package that they didn&#039;t have to pay state taxes for 20 years, Toyota decided to pay the same amount that they would have paid to the state directly to the school system. That is the kind of company Toyota is, would GM do that? Ford? Anyone? not only that but they made Georgetown EXTEND the city limits to include the plant so Georgetown could collect payroll taxes as well ( not my favorite but hey, would GM?) so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when Toyota came to Ky the then Governor Martha Layne Collins made as part of the incentive package that they didn&#8217;t have to pay state taxes for 20 years, Toyota decided to pay the same amount that they would have paid to the state directly to the school system. That is the kind of company Toyota is, would GM do that? Ford? Anyone? not only that but they made Georgetown EXTEND the city limits to include the plant so Georgetown could collect payroll taxes as well ( not my favorite but hey, would GM?) so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, troll.</p>
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		<title>By: spinnyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>spinnyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at the Georgetown plant and I can tell you we don&#039;t need a union here at all. My group leader was from the St Louis Ford plant and he told a ton of UAW horror stories about that place. Toyota treats it&#039;s workers more than fair and we make a great product ( was the best selling car in the nation, not sure about now after all this crap). Toyota also puts a lot into the community as well, everything and anything going on around central Kentucky has Toyota as a sponsor it seems, Ford has 2 plants in Louisville and most people wouldn&#039;t know it unless they drove by the plants, same with the corvette plant in Bowling Green. I hope all of the politicians behind this get booted out in 2010 or whenever their next election is. the government doesn&#039;t need to be in a witch hunt, they need to make sure Toyota is doing the right thing, which they are (in spades!) but not to drag them through the mud like they are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at the Georgetown plant and I can tell you we don&#8217;t need a union here at all. My group leader was from the St Louis Ford plant and he told a ton of UAW horror stories about that place. Toyota treats it&#8217;s workers more than fair and we make a great product ( was the best selling car in the nation, not sure about now after all this crap). Toyota also puts a lot into the community as well, everything and anything going on around central Kentucky has Toyota as a sponsor it seems, Ford has 2 plants in Louisville and most people wouldn&#8217;t know it unless they drove by the plants, same with the corvette plant in Bowling Green. I hope all of the politicians behind this get booted out in 2010 or whenever their next election is. the government doesn&#8217;t need to be in a witch hunt, they need to make sure Toyota is doing the right thing, which they are (in spades!) but not to drag them through the mud like they are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: BamaID</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamaID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the NTHSA site that EPU linked to - every Toyota recall related to the accelerator also applies to the Pontiac Vibe.  No one is warning us to park our Pontiacs.... wonder why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the NTHSA site that EPU linked to &#8211; every Toyota recall related to the accelerator also applies to the Pontiac Vibe.  No one is warning us to park our Pontiacs&#8230;. wonder why?</p>
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		<title>By: BamaID</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamaID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a Tacoma, made in California and a Sienna, made in Indiana.  My next purchase will be a Toyota Tundra, or (maybe) a Ford F150.  Although, in the past, I&#039;ve always wanted a new Silverado, there is no way I would buy a Government Motors truck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a Tacoma, made in California and a Sienna, made in Indiana.  My next purchase will be a Toyota Tundra, or (maybe) a Ford F150.  Although, in the past, I&#8217;ve always wanted a new Silverado, there is no way I would buy a Government Motors truck.</p>
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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wondered if somebody would put this down in print.  You have done so admirably.

Now that the Federal Government has a stake in GM, they&#039;re going to employ every dirty trick they can to stay ahead.

We need to watch this carefully, and take notes -- this is EXACTLY how a Public Option will turn into Single Payer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered if somebody would put this down in print.  You have done so admirably.</p>
<p>Now that the Federal Government has a stake in GM, they&#8217;re going to employ every dirty trick they can to stay ahead.</p>
<p>We need to watch this carefully, and take notes &#8212; this is EXACTLY how a Public Option will turn into Single Payer.</p>
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		<title>By: joekenha</title>
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		<dc:creator>joekenha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a new Toyota last weekend and right now, it&#039;s sitting in the driveway next to my other Toyota.

One Chevy down, one to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a new Toyota last weekend and right now, it&#8217;s sitting in the driveway next to my other Toyota.</p>
<p>One Chevy down, one to go.</p>
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		<title>By: dover</title>
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		<dc:creator>dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When I buy Toyota ... I won’t be propping up a government-owned farce of a company ... &quot;

True.  But you will be acquiescing in an ongoing &quot;spread the wealth&quot; redistribution from makers to takers.  It&#039;s a question of degree, I suppose.  At what point does such a thing make us uncomfortable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When I buy Toyota &#8230; I won’t be propping up a government-owned farce of a company &#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>True.  But you will be acquiescing in an ongoing &#8220;spread the wealth&#8221; redistribution from makers to takers.  It&#8217;s a question of degree, I suppose.  At what point does such a thing make us uncomfortable?</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not $67.</description>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2010/02/10/my-next-vehicle-purchase-will-definitely-be-a-toyota/#comment-4779</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You simply cannot make some sort of argument that Toyota and are on some similar footing vis a vis &quot;free market&quot; vs &quot;government owned&quot;.

If Toyota got $1 billion in subsidies, &lt;a href=&quot;http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/us-unlikely-to-recoup-auto-bailouts-gao-says/&quot;&gt;GM &amp; Co certainly got $67&lt;/a&gt; JUST from the bailouts and not including what has to be billions in subsidies over the years.

And when you start in on conservatives and the &quot;socialist products&quot; they love so much, I note the distinct absense of Toyota in your list.  I was never arguing for anything other than Toyota, yet you (attempt to) put me in the position of defending Merc and BMW.  Sorry, no sale.

When I buy Toyota, two things are pretty self-evident. I&#039;m very, very likely to get a high quality car, and I won&#039;t be propping up a government-owned  farce of a company doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You simply cannot make some sort of argument that Toyota and are on some similar footing vis a vis &#8220;free market&#8221; vs &#8220;government owned&#8221;.</p>
<p>If Toyota got $1 billion in subsidies, <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/us-unlikely-to-recoup-auto-bailouts-gao-says/">GM &amp; Co certainly got $67</a> JUST from the bailouts and not including what has to be billions in subsidies over the years.</p>
<p>And when you start in on conservatives and the &#8220;socialist products&#8221; they love so much, I note the distinct absense of Toyota in your list.  I was never arguing for anything other than Toyota, yet you (attempt to) put me in the position of defending Merc and BMW.  Sorry, no sale.</p>
<p>When I buy Toyota, two things are pretty self-evident. I&#8217;m very, very likely to get a high quality car, and I won&#8217;t be propping up a government-owned  farce of a company doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: dover</title>
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		<dc:creator>dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of us knows if your claims are true, either.  And the words &quot;gaming&quot; and &quot;free market&quot; blur together a little, in an industry where massive subsidies (under various different names) are the norm.

I know conservatism is a style of government ... but I find it odd that some conservatives love socialist products so much - like Mercedes and BMW, e.g. (where they have unions on their boards), or Ferrari or Maserati or Lamborghini or Porsche or Rolls Royce or Bentley.  But hey, buy what you like.  Transfer that wealth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of us knows if your claims are true, either.  And the words &#8220;gaming&#8221; and &#8220;free market&#8221; blur together a little, in an industry where massive subsidies (under various different names) are the norm.</p>
<p>I know conservatism is a style of government &#8230; but I find it odd that some conservatives love socialist products so much &#8211; like Mercedes and BMW, e.g. (where they have unions on their boards), or Ferrari or Maserati or Lamborghini or Porsche or Rolls Royce or Bentley.  But hey, buy what you like.  Transfer that wealth!</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I don&#039;t accept your claims because I don&#039;t know whether they are true or not.

Second, if Toyota received &quot;more than a billion dollars&quot; from taxpayers, how does that number compare to (a) the auto maker &quot;bailouts&quot;,  (b) previous Big 3 subsidies over the same time period where you claim this &#039;more than a billion dollars&#039;, and (c) the billions of dollars of taxpayer money being siphoned off the the UAW and other crooked unions through one form or another?

Third, when the government takes charge of (buys or confiscates, take your pick) Manufacturer A whose quality is crap, and then makes a pitched effort, using tools at its disposal due to being the government,  to discredit Manufacturer B, whose quality is outstanding, then I&#039;m buying from Manufacture B, the manufacturer whose success or failure is tied to the free market at some level.  You go ahead and by crap government cars if you want to.

If you don&#039;t view my choice as &#039;conservative&#039;, that&#039;s your privilege.  Conservatism is a form of governance, not a consumer choice, so for starters the whole topic is a bit non sequitur.  But playing your game a bit, seeing as I&#039;m using it as a form of protest against government takeover (and subsequent &#039;gaming) of an industry, by purchasing from its free-market competitor, I think your argument is crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I don&#8217;t accept your claims because I don&#8217;t know whether they are true or not.</p>
<p>Second, if Toyota received &#8220;more than a billion dollars&#8221; from taxpayers, how does that number compare to (a) the auto maker &#8220;bailouts&#8221;,  (b) previous Big 3 subsidies over the same time period where you claim this &#8216;more than a billion dollars&#8217;, and (c) the billions of dollars of taxpayer money being siphoned off the the UAW and other crooked unions through one form or another?</p>
<p>Third, when the government takes charge of (buys or confiscates, take your pick) Manufacturer A whose quality is crap, and then makes a pitched effort, using tools at its disposal due to being the government,  to discredit Manufacturer B, whose quality is outstanding, then I&#8217;m buying from Manufacture B, the manufacturer whose success or failure is tied to the free market at some level.  You go ahead and by crap government cars if you want to.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t view my choice as &#8216;conservative&#8217;, that&#8217;s your privilege.  Conservatism is a form of governance, not a consumer choice, so for starters the whole topic is a bit non sequitur.  But playing your game a bit, seeing as I&#8217;m using it as a form of protest against government takeover (and subsequent &#8216;gaming) of an industry, by purchasing from its free-market competitor, I think your argument is crap.</p>
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		<title>By: dover</title>
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		<dc:creator>dover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota North America has received more than a billion dollars from taxpayers in the &quot;maker&quot; states to create centrally-planned jobs in the &quot;taker&quot; states.  Plants are essentially built for them, and every job is subsidized.  Not an approach we should back with our purchase decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota North America has received more than a billion dollars from taxpayers in the &#8220;maker&#8221; states to create centrally-planned jobs in the &#8220;taker&#8221; states.  Plants are essentially built for them, and every job is subsidized.  Not an approach we should back with our purchase decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Vassar Bushmills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vassar Bushmills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...hiring a private detective.

 Your papa ain&#039;t your papa, but your papa don&#039;t know.

:) Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;hiring a private detective.</p>
<p> Your papa ain&#8217;t your papa, but your papa don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: antisocial</title>
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		<dc:creator>antisocial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You plan to get a print and mail it to him? Better if it is hand delivered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You plan to get a print and mail it to him? Better if it is hand delivered.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not yet decided, and to tell the truth, I&#039;m probably a year from anther car purchase.  Don&#039;t know what I want,  Something sporty though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not yet decided, and to tell the truth, I&#8217;m probably a year from anther car purchase.  Don&#8217;t know what I want,  Something sporty though.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I&#039;m seeing these horrible, horrible poll numbers that remind me how many Americans are still sheeple.

But I agree with you, it will bounce back.  I just hate the way good companies have to suffer at the hands of these Nazis.  These incompetent Nazis.

And I gottta tell you, I love my Supra.  Baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I&#8217;m seeing these horrible, horrible poll numbers that remind me how many Americans are still sheeple.</p>
<p>But I agree with you, it will bounce back.  I just hate the way good companies have to suffer at the hands of these Nazis.  These incompetent Nazis.</p>
<p>And I gottta tell you, I love my Supra.  Baby!</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I guess she&#039;s in a position to know, althought I always thought in a general morphological sense I favored my dad enough to say it was just my mom&#039;s wishful thinking.

Apparently she wishes I favored the mailman or the milk man a little more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I guess she&#8217;s in a position to know, althought I always thought in a general morphological sense I favored my dad enough to say it was just my mom&#8217;s wishful thinking.</p>
<p>Apparently she wishes I favored the mailman or the milk man a little more.</p>
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		<title>By: conservative_faction</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2010/02/10/my-next-vehicle-purchase-will-definitely-be-a-toyota/#comment-4761</link>
		<dc:creator>conservative_faction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even my wife, who doesn&#039;t have quite the political barometer that I have, seemed to clue in on this sham early on.  This whole thing reeks of being nothing more than and advertising campaign for GM and Chrysler.

It&#039;s going to feel good come new car time when I can plunk down my money on a new Toyota.  I have a feeling that Toyota is going to come out of this thing stronger than ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even my wife, who doesn&#8217;t have quite the political barometer that I have, seemed to clue in on this sham early on.  This whole thing reeks of being nothing more than and advertising campaign for GM and Chrysler.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to feel good come new car time when I can plunk down my money on a new Toyota.  I have a feeling that Toyota is going to come out of this thing stronger than ever.</p>
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