My next vehicle purchase will DEFINITELY be a Toyota


Just because I like to punch bullies and cheaters in the mouth

You know it. I know it. Half of America knows it. I don’t know which of Bambi’s commie czars decided to declare war on Toyota, or maybe it was the Commie-in-Chief himself. But of two things there can be no doubt for any American citizen of above room-temp IQ (that’s 72 or better, David Axelrod – and no, you don’t make the cut).

  • The Bambi administration deliberately and with malice aforethought chose to single out Toyota for targeted negative attention.
  • They did it purely in order to benefit Democrat-owned Government Motors and Chrysler.

And you know what? I’d drive a 1400 miles to pee on a Democrat’s shoes. So I’m buying a Toyota next. Don’t know what model, but bank it. I already have a Supra Turbo.

So how do we know it’s an administration scheme? Because this just standard operating procedure for the Obama administration.

  • The media are urinating all over themselves to get the word out and keep the words “Toyota cars are death-traps” on everybody’s lips.
  • It punishes legitimate success.
  • It rewards all the unions and other crooks that benefit from artificially inflating the twin Obama blow-up dolls Government Motors and Chrysler.
  • It’s dirty and underhanded. Given the choice between doing something honest, and accomplishing the same thing by conniving, cheating, stealing, and destroying innocent people and things, Democrats will always choose the latter. Just because.

Let’s elaborate.

Because it’s fun.

Media Pig-piling

The majority partisan media (we never call them the “mainstream media” in the EPU household) are not much more than the media wing of the Democrat Party. They don’t even have to take marching orders or have coordination sessions. They single out and seek to destroy anybody on the right that the Democrats want, or anybody in whom they can find a weakness, even if they have to invent it.

A quick roll call: Carrie Prejean, Joe the Plumber, George W Bush, “macaca”, “wide stance”, Dick Cheney, Sam Alito, Clarence Thomas. Tea Partiers. And Lord, O Lord. Sarah Palin. Each of these was the target of vicious, extended, large-scale smears that served no legitimate purpose.

Now add Toyota.

Jealous of Legitimate Success

Democrats are bent out of shape by achievement and success. They’ve always got to set common people against successful people and businesses. If it’s the “rich” (aka “hard working achievers”) they need to be taxed more. If it’s “those greedy corporations” (aka “employers”), they’ve got to be taxed, unionized and regulated, and sued out of businesses.

GM and Chrysler were wrecked by unions and governmental meddling (CAFE for example). The Democrats took them over essentially because (a) the unfounded and delusional notion that they can actually run businesses, and (b) to funnel billions of dollars directly to the unions who do much of the left’s dirty work.

In the real world, lefty ideas flunk the market place. And let’s keep straight about who produces quality vehicles and who does not.

Best and Worst Vehicles

Automotive Lease Guide’s 2010 Best Car Resale Values By Class: 17 classes. Toyota has 5. GM/Chrysler 0.

Automotive Lease Guide’s 2010 Bottom 10 Car Resale Values By Class: Toyota has 0. GM/Chrysler 5.

US News, in their Best and Worst Cars for the Money 2010 article, had these snippets:

  • “Across 27 award categories, roughly a quarter of the award winners come from Toyota or Lexus, Toyota’s luxury division.”
  • “Chrysler didn’t manage to win any awards, and while General Motors won two last year, this year they only took home the Best Luxury Sports Car for the Money Award, for the Chevrolet Corvette.”
  • “Where Chrysler did make a showing was on the Worst Cars for the Money list. These cars are despised by reviewers, and over the long-term, cost more to own (sometimes much more) than the class average. The Chrysler Sebring, which car experts deride for its cheap interior and poor performance, is the worst midsize car for the money. Not only is the Sebring unpopular with reviewers, it also has high ownership costs, due in part to its rate of depreciation. Chrysler also earned Worst Car honors for its minivans; both the Chrysler Town & Country and the Dodge Grand Caravan finished at the bottom of their class in the awards race.”

Honestly, look anywhere you want to. In general, Toyota rocks, GM is ho-hum on a really good day, and Chrysler just sucks.

Current Recalls

Now it sure is a shame that Toyota ran into trouble with recalls. I mean, if Government Motors or Chrysler had any recall issues, I’m sure the media would jump all over that news, right?

Right?

This won’t surprise you, unless you’re one of Obama’s economic forecasters (“unexpectedly…..”). To quote MotorTrend in April 2009, “At a time when they can least afford it, recalls are hitting all three of the Detroit automakers. GM has been hit hardest with potential engine fires, while Chrysler is awash in mechanical and electrical problems and Ford is having trouble with a mounting bracket.” Included are these:

  • GM recalling 1.5 MILLION cars (numerous models) for potential engine fires.
  • Chrysler recalling 50,000 Jeep vehicles for a problem that would cause the “wheel assembly to separate from the vehicle”. And yes, that’s bad.
  • Chrysler recalling 100,000 Jeep Cherokees for the second time for the same problem
  • Just for humor value: Ford’s only item is recalling 429 vans for bracket placement that would not fare well in a severe accident. Funny, they’re not owned by the government, yet their issues are much less widespread or serious. Hmmm, odd, that.

What, no front page articles, headline news stories, and hourly radio broadcasts? I’m telling you, a wheel assembly separating from the vehicle at highway speed sounds bad. I’m not kidding.

For further study, here’s the government’s own recall site, operated by the NTHSA. See the raw material for yourself.

Rewarding and Protecting Cronies

The Democrat Party loves unionistas, commies, trial lawyers, and not much else. This Toyota thing is about propping up the UAW. And to some extent, Democrat egos.

Destruction as Bloodsport

Democrats and the media destroy right-side people just for fun. Seriously, what was the big deal about Carrie Prejean and her statement, when put on the spot? It was actually courageous and rather sweet and unpretentious. Joe the Plumber asked a fair and honest question that many Americans had on their minds. His crime was that Obama answered it stupidly. Yet both of these totally defenseless civilians had their private lives dragged out into public. Top Obama advisor David Axelrod (picture below) quipped that the president toyed with naming the new presidential dog “Miss California”.
David Axelrod
David Axelrod

Who’s with me?

It is a shame, but Toyota at least in the immediate term has been hit hard, To their everlasting credit, the company has gone to great lengths to fix the issues, and to offer apologies and “we’re working on it” ad campaigns. At no point have they pointed fingers, blamed everybody else, or whined about bad coverage. On top of that, they are, along with Honda, the best auto makers for the mass market on the planet. Hands down.

In other words, they are EVERYTHING that Democrats are not.

My hope is that this little furor will die down, that Americans in general will see the obvious self-serving ploy by Bambi and his band of commie idiots, and that market shares and resale values will return to normal. I also hope that when Republicans take over the House next year, they drag that little charlie-sierra Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood up in front of a committee. He needs a good perp-walking.

But anyway, hey you guys gonna buy Toyota next?

[UPDATE : afternote: this whole diary was terribly disjointed, unorganized, and probably hard to read. Sorry about that, I stayed up till 2am doing it, and.......well, it shows.]


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I drove a Chevy Cavalier for awhile...

kyoufuu (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 8:53AM EST (link)

Good car. Bought it off my parents. Had some trouble with a faulty driver’s seat that forced me to buy an unmatching replacement from a car dump.Traded it in two years ago for a Toyota Corolla.

Let me tell you, despite these troubles, I will never go back to GM, especially since the government buyout. My Corolla drives so well that Toyota now has a customer for life. And not even Ray LaHood going on TV to strike up a panic will change that fact. If nothing else, it makes me want to buy a Toyota even more.

The simple fact is that in manufacturing, there will always be products that come off the line with defects. That’s why recalls exist. The accelerator problem is rare and can in fact occur on any car after enough time.

There was no need to panic. But the government and its media watchdogs made a big deal about this solely to benefit the corporations that are largely owned by the government.

“There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” — James Madison

“I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”

And that is exactly why the government involvement....

penguin2 (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 9:13AM EST (link)

in commercial enterprise is unfair competition. They have the media in their pocket which is essentially, unpaid for advertising either for their stuff or against the competitors. It will be the same for anything the government gets their hands on. Just look at the PR blitz assaulting us with the HC agenda, and they can belittle and criticize banks they don’t like, etc.

Even the Tebow ad was only allowed to run in the pre-game show, thus the power and control over the consciousness of America by Leftists TV stations/Hollywood.

Though many say the old media has been discredited, I do not see the lessening of their overall influence. They still wield incredible power and most people get their headline news from papers and the regular alphabet news channels. Remember local papers are just an extension of the reach of the big ones, they are owned by them. They have a relentless goal and agenda: to change America, and see her go down as we know it.

We made the decision not to buy a government motors car, the moment the government took them over…..

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penguin, that's also why health care reform will not lead to increased competition if there's a public option... (nt)

kyoufuu (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 10:11AM EST (link)

“There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.” — James Madison

“I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”

Right, kyoufuu, I had that thought, but got started on...

penguin2 (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 10:20AM EST (link)

the other stuff and left it out. Government takeover of healthcare will destroy the competition. That is their agenda and endgame. In fact, they have to do that with everything they get involved in, they want to Grow these programs, grow government; it is not only growing the dependency on government, but those that are employed by them, thus becoming an even bigger employer.

Have you ever watched the TV ads that are always trying to get people to sign up or use a government program? It drives me crazy, because I know every call in and new “client” for this or that, which involves the government paying out dollars, is using taxpayer dollars and expanding government, the deficit, waste, and IMO, is outright wrong and not the purpose of government.

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Thank you EPU

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 9:31AM EST (link)

I was hoping someone would do a diary on the hyper-ventilating of the Communist administration in an attempt to destroy an auto industry that is not unionized. That is what I think this is all about.

I’ve read that Toyota’s are about $2,000. cheaper to build because they don’t have the high union wages, and, the legacy costs. That is why they will eventually be able to recover. I hope their sales shoot out of the roof.

It’s not just the Obama media that keeps making this story bigger and bigger, I have heard as many bad reports as to Toyota on Fox as well. I haven’t heard the first reporter (if there are any) bring up the fact that this is an attempt to destroy Toyota. Seems like everyone is taking TheHood at his word.

FNC annoys me with that stuff

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 10:48AM EST (link)

Their news organization is the best in America, about 5pm to 8pm. The evening lineup is just right-side opinion, which is fine. The daytime stuff is THE WORST. Just the sorriest in muck-raking tabloid journalism.

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How's whatshername doing in the new timeslot?

cwilson (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:14PM EST (link)

Megyn Kelly just started hosting the 1pm-3pm slot on Feb 1. I can’t watch, but I have hopes for her, based on these:

http://www.redstate.com/bk/2009/08/07/fncs-megyn-kelly-pwns-aarp-goofball/

http://www.redstate.com/keywestconservative/2008/09/04/megyn-kelly-of-fox-news/

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Kowalski...

cwilson (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:22PM EST (link)

Anyway, on topic: I drive an evil toyota SUV (gasp!), and my next car will ALSO be a toyota. Geez, a sticky accelerator. Uh…ok, shift into neutral, steer, brake, and park. End of danger.

WHEELS SEPARATING FROM THE BODY AT HIGHWAY SPEED…kiss your bright shiny *** goodbye…

Even my non-political brother said, “Hey, isn’t it odd that the government is going after the market leading brand with so much gusto, now that they own one of the competitors?”

No, Teh Won isn’t fooling anybody.

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There is another element to the EPU...Many Toyotas are made in America...and they are Non Unoin

AceInTX (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 9:42AM EST (link)

San Antonio is home of the Tundra and Tacoma operations….I know a lot of people here that Work for Toyota…and one that worked for Ford in Detroit…He loves working for Toyota and he HATED Ford.

The other thing that makes Toyota a target is the fact that they take care of their people WITHOUT Unions telling them how to do it.

The Dem’s attacks on Toyota are motivated by the same passions that have driven them to apoplexy in their ceasless assault on Wal-mart

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Yes, I had meant to emphasize that a little more than I did

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:09AM EST (link)

Actually, Achance just posted something on that very theme. Gets right to the point. I’ts very much an attack on the non-unionized (we call those ‘quality-built’) cars.

Damn them to hell.

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I've advocating a Plan B strategy of dealing with the UAW

Richard Mullins (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:21AM EST (link)

Buy up the old divisions of GM and Chrysler, start a company with them and make it non-union. The success of that would definably kill the UAW. I still have to say that Toyota has done a masterful job of using what was going to be the Applewhite reservoir.

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Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

The union contract would come with them

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:28AM EST (link)

if you bought a division of one of the union automakers. And if your intention was to buy one and move production to a new plant in a right to work state, all the plant-closing rules would keep you paying the UAW employees practically forever and you’d have the full attention of every government regulatory agency for everything you did.

In Vino Veritas

I meant the dead divisions not the living ones

Richard Mullins (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 12:11PM EST (link)

I’ve already figured on how to handle things. I work around one of the most unionized industries in the US, the airline industry. Gives good reasons not be in a union and not completely discourage them, they will want to be a non-union shop. I’m sure of how the game is played.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

Airlines bargain under the Railway Labor Act,

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 12:32PM EST (link)

a much different animal from the National Labor Relations Act. But if all you’re buying is a brand or an already closed plant, the game is different.

In Vino Veritas

Yep that's the plan

Richard Mullins (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 12:37PM EST (link)

No playing with a UAW contract here. The only to kill the UAW is have a US automaker that doesn’t use UAW labor. Many of the protest buying will stop and those that buy from the big 3 will have no reason to buy there cars. I must say that my brain has worked well in this.

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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.

Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Toyota takes care of us!

spinnyd Tuesday, February 23rd at 10:12PM EST (link)

I work at the Georgetown plant and I can tell you we don’t need a union here at all. My group leader was from the St Louis Ford plant and he told a ton of UAW horror stories about that place. Toyota treats it’s workers more than fair and we make a great product ( was the best selling car in the nation, not sure about now after all this crap). Toyota also puts a lot into the community as well, everything and anything going on around central Kentucky has Toyota as a sponsor it seems, Ford has 2 plants in Louisville and most people wouldn’t know it unless they drove by the plants, same with the corvette plant in Bowling Green. I hope all of the politicians behind this get booted out in 2010 or whenever their next election is. the government doesn’t need to be in a witch hunt, they need to make sure Toyota is doing the right thing, which they are (in spades!) but not to drag them through the mud like they are doing.

 
 

Our liberal elite want to be just like most other countries.

Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 10:42AM EST (link)

And we are rapidly going down that path. Pursuit of nationalizing industries, more centralized government control.

Tarriffs
special standards in lieu of tarriffs (GMO free type stuff for EU)
CCC in China to rip off IP

Definitely driving down a road to ruin, in an Obamrolet.

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Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

Then why don't they MOVE to other countries?!

Xasteius (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 10:52AM EST (link)

They can probably afford it better than the rest of us anyway.

(BTW, this was just a rhetorical question).

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The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.

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Weren't some of the parts made in China?

Menlo (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 10:49AM EST (link)

I heard somewhere that some of the parts having problems were made in China.

I don’t know if it’s true, but it would be enough to completely destroy any argument in Toyota’s favor if it is.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

Every manufacturer of every vehicle, including UAW cars, has many China-made parts

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:13AM EST (link)

That’s no argument. None at all. The Obamanistas have jumped on a slim opportunity to hoist Toyota up on a spit. Follow those links about GM/Chrysler recalls.

For Chryslers, THE WHEEL ASSEMBLY FALLS OFF AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS. For GM, THE ENGINE CATCHES ON FIRE (1,500,000 cars recalled). Trust me, I’d rather have a sticking accelerator.

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Then such problems will only get worse

Menlo (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:31AM EST (link)

Unless the government is willing to embargo or severely restrict trade with China, this will continue to be a problem.

It’s a valid argument, even if it means that every vehicle manufacturer is just as bad. Fortunately for me, I don’t drive anyway, and I never will.

Of course if I had my way, any person who actively chose to import parts or labor from China for sale or distribution to the public should be shipped out of the country and forced into a Chinese labor camp. All Chinese products ought to be banned.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 
 
 

The only GM car I will miss is

Xasteius (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 10:57AM EST (link)

the Saturn (discontinued this year). They were extremely well-built car; my last Saturn was 16 years (1994 model) before I had to get rid of it (it still runs effectively, but the exterior repair costs will exceed the value of the car).

Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!

The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.

I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.

 

I buy Ford for the company cars/trucks.

joebgardener Wednesday, February 10th at 11:28AM EST (link)

And just bought my daughter a Hyundai Sonata last week….beautiful car.

The wife is campaigning for a Mazda RX8…..she’ll probably get it this year.

Then I get my Porsche.

Then I’m done buying depreciating assets.

:)

I’m a retread who keeps coming back after getting banned for trolling.

Think twice about the Nazi Slot Car;

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:38AM EST (link)

The “purchase” price of a Porsche is merely the cost of admission to the club. The care and feeding costs are astounding! I had a couple of 911s back in the ’70s and early ’80s. They were real head turners and lots of fun to drive but they were holes in the driveway you poured money into. More modern cars generally take a lot less maintenance than the old carburetted or early fuel injection cars, but God help your bank account if you have to repair or replace anything.

If you want a “depreciating asset,” try a big boat these days; I’d have to pay somebody to buy mine and the economy here is still pretty strong. People just don’t have enough confidence to buy much.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

Toyota recalls are Bush's fault!!

nessa (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 11:53AM EST (link)

That’s been holding the Obama administration over for more than a year, Toyota may as well try it.

We could all see this happening when the “G” changed from General to Government. Unfair competition is the only kind the progressives can compete in. ACORN, the ACLU, voting in Minnesota, you know what I mean. Its only going to get worse, I’m sorry to say. The worse our statist government can make it for Toyota and any non-union industry the better it is for them. Of course, the Americans who work in those industries won’t agree when they’re laid off but… hey, that’s the price of socialism. Capitalism allows people to raise themselves to whatever level they desire and strive for, the socialism that our progressive leaders want us under must lower everyone to the same level of misery and suffering so things are “fair” for everyone involved.

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gekster (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 1:05PM EST (link)

I liked this line best.,

“At no point have they pointed fingers, blamed everybody else, or whined about bad coverage.”

The exact opposite of someone I know.

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If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

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Ok folks, 2012 is here. Get involved

 
 

Cheeky bastard...

Vassar Bushmills (Diary) Wednesday, February 10th at 5:27PM EST (link)

I’m with you. ..because you’re right of course.

My mother calls me that

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 11:40AM EST (link)

And I guess she’s in a position to know, althought I always thought in a general morphological sense I favored my dad enough to say it was just my mom’s wishful thinking.

Apparently she wishes I favored the mailman or the milk man a little more.

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I would not recommend...

Vassar Bushmills (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 4:39PM EST (link)

…hiring a private detective.

Your papa ain’t your papa, but your papa don’t know.

:) Cheers

 
 
 

As a Toyota salesman

greiner Wednesday, February 10th at 8:57PM EST (link)

I only wish Toyota had come out of the box sooner in defending it’s self.
With that being said I have recieved several different reactions from clients.
The life long Toyota/Lexus owner sees right through this recall and calls it for how it really is. They bring up the Pinto and the Exploders (Exploeres) and a list of other recalled cars with track records of much greater danger to the people who own them. It amazes me that coming from other brands as a salesman and going to Toyota and Lexus, the client are much more versed in the auto industry.
The new Toyota owners. Many of them older Americans trading in thier GM’s are running into our dealership frightend. I even had some in tears.
Then you have the crazies. I had to get some blood work done at a clinic directly across from the dealership. I went in with my work shirt on and a women stopped me to tell how she is on her eighth Camry and she is having trany trouble. Well, not really trouble but it feels funny and she will never buy a Toyota again.
So I think Bambi has gotten the reaction he wanted. But the dummies have so mistimed it. February is the slowest time of the year for car sales. This to will pass and when the story gets bumped from the news cycle people will again come in and purchase the the most American vehichle on the road. The Camry.

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Great to hear this insider stuff

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 11:54AM EST (link)

Yes. I’m seeing these horrible, horrible poll numbers that remind me how many Americans are still sheeple.

But I agree with you, it will bounce back. I just hate the way good companies have to suffer at the hands of these Nazis. These incompetent Nazis.

And I gottta tell you, I love my Supra. Baby!

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Toyotas which aere made in Japan seem to be free of defects. hmmm nt

mikerazar (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 12:28AM EST (link)

We have a nation to save, people.

 

Spot on EPU!

conservative_faction Thursday, February 11th at 11:01AM EST (link)

Even my wife, who doesn’t have quite the political barometer that I have, seemed to clue in on this sham early on. This whole thing reeks of being nothing more than and advertising campaign for GM and Chrysler.

It’s going to feel good come new car time when I can plunk down my money on a new Toyota. I have a feeling that Toyota is going to come out of this thing stronger than ever.

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Hope so, friend

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 11:56AM EST (link)

I have not yet decided, and to tell the truth, I’m probably a year from anther car purchase. Don’t know what I want, Something sporty though.

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That picture of David Axelrod is really nice. Looks smart and young.

antisocial (Diary) Thursday, February 11th at 1:53PM EST (link)

You plan to get a print and mail it to him? Better if it is hand delivered.

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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What is to be done?
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No. You can’t – Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!

 

Not a convincing conservative position.

dover (Diary) Friday, February 12th at 3:50PM EST (link)

Toyota North America has received more than a billion dollars from taxpayers in the “maker” states to create centrally-planned jobs in the “taker” states. Plants are essentially built for them, and every job is subsidized. Not an approach we should back with our purchase decisions.

Excuse me? WTF?

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, February 12th at 4:11PM EST (link)

First of all, I don’t accept your claims because I don’t know whether they are true or not.

Second, if Toyota received “more than a billion dollars” from taxpayers, how does that number compare to (a) the auto maker “bailouts”, (b) previous Big 3 subsidies over the same time period where you claim this ‘more than a billion dollars’, and (c) the billions of dollars of taxpayer money being siphoned off the the UAW and other crooked unions through one form or another?

Third, when the government takes charge of (buys or confiscates, take your pick) Manufacturer A whose quality is crap, and then makes a pitched effort, using tools at its disposal due to being the government, to discredit Manufacturer B, whose quality is outstanding, then I’m buying from Manufacture B, the manufacturer whose success or failure is tied to the free market at some level. You go ahead and by crap government cars if you want to.

If you don’t view my choice as ‘conservative’, that’s your privilege. Conservatism is a form of governance, not a consumer choice, so for starters the whole topic is a bit non sequitur. But playing your game a bit, seeing as I’m using it as a form of protest against government takeover (and subsequent ‘gaming) of an industry, by purchasing from its free-market competitor, I think your argument is crap.

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Well ...

dover (Diary) Friday, February 12th at 4:23PM EST (link)

None of us knows if your claims are true, either. And the words “gaming” and “free market” blur together a little, in an industry where massive subsidies (under various different names) are the norm.

I know conservatism is a style of government … but I find it odd that some conservatives love socialist products so much – like Mercedes and BMW, e.g. (where they have unions on their boards), or Ferrari or Maserati or Lamborghini or Porsche or Rolls Royce or Bentley. But hey, buy what you like. Transfer that wealth!

Nice argument shifting

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, February 12th at 4:41PM EST (link)

You simply cannot make some sort of argument that Toyota and are on some similar footing vis a vis “free market” vs “government owned”.

If Toyota got $1 billion in subsidies, GM & Co certainly got $67 JUST from the bailouts and not including what has to be billions in subsidies over the years.

And when you start in on conservatives and the “socialist products” they love so much, I note the distinct absense of Toyota in your list. I was never arguing for anything other than Toyota, yet you (attempt to) put me in the position of defending Merc and BMW. Sorry, no sale.

When I buy Toyota, two things are pretty self-evident. I’m very, very likely to get a high quality car, and I won’t be propping up a government-owned farce of a company doing it.

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that should be $67 billion

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Friday, February 12th at 4:42PM EST (link)

Not $67.

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No argument from me

dover (Diary) Friday, February 12th at 5:09PM EST (link)

“When I buy Toyota … I won’t be propping up a government-owned farce of a company … ”

True. But you will be acquiescing in an ongoing “spread the wealth” redistribution from makers to takers. It’s a question of degree, I suppose. At what point does such a thing make us uncomfortable?

 
 
 
 
 

and they have paid it back 10X over! troll!

spinnyd Tuesday, February 23rd at 10:24PM EST (link)

when Toyota came to Ky the then Governor Martha Layne Collins made as part of the incentive package that they didn’t have to pay state taxes for 20 years, Toyota decided to pay the same amount that they would have paid to the state directly to the school system. That is the kind of company Toyota is, would GM do that? Ford? Anyone? not only that but they made Georgetown EXTEND the city limits to include the plant so Georgetown could collect payroll taxes as well ( not my favorite but hey, would GM?) so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, troll.

 
 

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joekenha (Diary) Saturday, February 13th at 12:08AM EST (link)

I bought a new Toyota last weekend and right now, it’s sitting in the driveway next to my other Toyota.

One Chevy down, one to go.

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Thank You Sir!

spinnyd Tuesday, February 23rd at 10:27PM EST (link)

Thanks for still believing in us! ( I also love my 3 Toyotas)

 
 

Excellent, EPU-- agreed wholeheartedly

randy streu (Diary) Saturday, February 13th at 9:41AM EST (link)

I wondered if somebody would put this down in print. You have done so admirably.

Now that the Federal Government has a stake in GM, they’re going to employ every dirty trick they can to stay ahead.

We need to watch this carefully, and take notes — this is EXACTLY how a Public Option will turn into Single Payer.

 

I own two Toyotas...

BamaID Saturday, February 13th at 9:58PM EST (link)

a Tacoma, made in California and a Sienna, made in Indiana. My next purchase will be a Toyota Tundra, or (maybe) a Ford F150. Although, in the past, I’ve always wanted a new Silverado, there is no way I would buy a Government Motors truck.

 

The Pontiac Vibe hasn't been mentioned?

BamaID Saturday, February 13th at 10:28PM EST (link)

From the NTHSA site that EPU linked to – every Toyota recall related to the accelerator also applies to the Pontiac Vibe. No one is warning us to park our Pontiacs…. wonder why?

 

If you look at the stats on actual incidents

izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, February 23rd at 10:42PM EST (link)

of mechanical breakdowns causing injury or death – I am sure that GM would beat Toyota hands down.

While I am sure Toyota might have some problems – the Obama administration is making a mountain out of a molehill.

GM & the UAW’s day will come. And it is probably closer than Obama thinks it is.

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.