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		<title>By: silverwolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>silverwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The enemy of my enemy is my enemy&#039;s enemy No more no less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The enemy of my enemy is my enemy&#8217;s enemy No more no less.</p>
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		<title>By: LISA BULLOCK-HOCK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LISA BULLOCK-HOCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I contacted my congressman Sarbanes and said that he should vote NO, but he voted yes.  I got a generic response that did not deal with any of the issues that I had--costs being passed off onto the masses.  Why are our natural resources being locked up without alternatives to replace them, ect..  I posted it on my diary, and my email in response back to him.  

http://www.redstate.com/lisainmd/2009/07/17/cap-in-trade-the-biggest-scam-ever/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I contacted my congressman Sarbanes and said that he should vote NO, but he voted yes.  I got a generic response that did not deal with any of the issues that I had&#8211;costs being passed off onto the masses.  Why are our natural resources being locked up without alternatives to replace them, ect..  I posted it on my diary, and my email in response back to him.  </p>
<p>http://www.redstate.com/lisainmd/2009/07/17/cap-in-trade-the-biggest-scam-ever/</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_in_Fla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave_in_Fla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only for us it is the NY/NJ/CT expats that move here because of the crappy high taxes, then proceed to vote Dem.

Fortunately, the GOP is still in full control of the legislature, though I think they&#039;ve got our Governor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only for us it is the NY/NJ/CT expats that move here because of the crappy high taxes, then proceed to vote Dem.</p>
<p>Fortunately, the GOP is still in full control of the legislature, though I think they&#8217;ve got our Governor.</p>
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		<title>By: wennejunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wennejunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...people from Texas will start calling Californians kin&lt;/i&gt;

No, most of the CA ex-patriots have moved here.  In about 10 years, when they&#039;ve got their roots firmly planted, we&#039;ll start having the same crap pass our legislature along with laws to ban the heat in the summer and mandating kindness to cattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;people from Texas will start calling Californians kin</i></p>
<p>No, most of the CA ex-patriots have moved here.  In about 10 years, when they&#8217;ve got their roots firmly planted, we&#8217;ll start having the same crap pass our legislature along with laws to ban the heat in the summer and mandating kindness to cattle.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>refuse to recognize that they&#039;re on the wrong end of the prosperity scale.

The highest state tax burdens in America, and the worst state budget problems.

If I were Ahnold, I&#039;d be pushing for a massive income tax rate cut in California, perhaps phasing it in over a few years.  Same for New York and New Jersey.  It wouldn&#039;t be good for Arizona, but California would prosper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>refuse to recognize that they&#8217;re on the wrong end of the prosperity scale.</p>
<p>The highest state tax burdens in America, and the worst state budget problems.</p>
<p>If I were Ahnold, I&#8217;d be pushing for a massive income tax rate cut in California, perhaps phasing it in over a few years.  Same for New York and New Jersey.  It wouldn&#8217;t be good for Arizona, but California would prosper.</p>
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		<title>By: antisocial</title>
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		<dc:creator>antisocial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO POUND SAND!!!!

Voters have gone nuts :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO POUND SAND!!!!</p>
<p>Voters have gone nuts <img src='http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the timing couldn&#039;t be better for the Republican party to gain here.   I&#039;m with Erick B., I&#039;m betting they&#039;ll do everything they can to stop more drilling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the timing couldn&#8217;t be better for the Republican party to gain here.   I&#8217;m with Erick B., I&#8217;m betting they&#8217;ll do everything they can to stop more drilling.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But there is a very positive side to this.  These clowns have been used to operating with no limits whatsoever, for many eayrs.  May 19 the voters told them to stick it, they weren&#039;t going to raise taxes or raid certain funds.  

As one might expect, in this session they are going to try to steal and bottom-deal every way possible, and will, as you pointed out, to avoid cutting down to zero all their union and greenie sops.  But next year even THOSE things they raided will be unavailable.  Those are one-timers.  They&#039;ll be used up and not replenished.   And so they will be forced perhaps at last to write a budget that lives somewhat within their means.

Alternatively, if they continue to be stupid and dishonest, I think it is an awesome chance, given the parallels going on at the national level, for Republicans to make huge strides in CA.  Perhaps even the unthinkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there is a very positive side to this.  These clowns have been used to operating with no limits whatsoever, for many eayrs.  May 19 the voters told them to stick it, they weren&#8217;t going to raise taxes or raid certain funds.  </p>
<p>As one might expect, in this session they are going to try to steal and bottom-deal every way possible, and will, as you pointed out, to avoid cutting down to zero all their union and greenie sops.  But next year even THOSE things they raided will be unavailable.  Those are one-timers.  They&#8217;ll be used up and not replenished.   And so they will be forced perhaps at last to write a budget that lives somewhat within their means.</p>
<p>Alternatively, if they continue to be stupid and dishonest, I think it is an awesome chance, given the parallels going on at the national level, for Republicans to make huge strides in CA.  Perhaps even the unthinkable.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Brockway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick Brockway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First the state government plans to &quot;borrow&quot; a huge amount of money from already struggling local and counties who largely have their budgets under control.
The County of Ventura Transportation Div budgeted for a rainy day enough to sustain itself for a year barring any disaster-related expenses. The state will confiscate all the gas tax money, property taxes, sales taxes, and I don&#039;t know what else. It&#039;s apparent state government is just pulling more rabbits out of its hat with this deal, evidenced in another way by them deciding to pay state workers on August 1 rather than July 31 just to push that debt to next year&#039;s budget paper and keep it off this year&#039;s. Smoke and mirrors, and I&#039;m sure there&#039;s tons more.
Another place I&#039;m skeptical is the Dems allowing off-shore drilling all of a sudden. I&#039;m sure even as I peck away on this tiny phone keyboard that an injunction is being prepared to halt any drilling offshore, and they&#039;ll tie it up in the courts until, as agreed, (in 2020 I believe) the oil companies will be forced to dismantle the rigs forever. THAT part of the agreement the libs will abide by, I&#039;m sure.
Nothing in California is ever as good as it seems when it comes to the lib state government, and often it&#039;s worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First the state government plans to &#8220;borrow&#8221; a huge amount of money from already struggling local and counties who largely have their budgets under control.<br />
The County of Ventura Transportation Div budgeted for a rainy day enough to sustain itself for a year barring any disaster-related expenses. The state will confiscate all the gas tax money, property taxes, sales taxes, and I don&#8217;t know what else. It&#8217;s apparent state government is just pulling more rabbits out of its hat with this deal, evidenced in another way by them deciding to pay state workers on August 1 rather than July 31 just to push that debt to next year&#8217;s budget paper and keep it off this year&#8217;s. Smoke and mirrors, and I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s tons more.<br />
Another place I&#8217;m skeptical is the Dems allowing off-shore drilling all of a sudden. I&#8217;m sure even as I peck away on this tiny phone keyboard that an injunction is being prepared to halt any drilling offshore, and they&#8217;ll tie it up in the courts until, as agreed, (in 2020 I believe) the oil companies will be forced to dismantle the rigs forever. THAT part of the agreement the libs will abide by, I&#8217;m sure.<br />
Nothing in California is ever as good as it seems when it comes to the lib state government, and often it&#8217;s worse.</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be back</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>6eorge Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuts that would be politically unthinkable in ordinary times are possible in times of distress/upheaval.

Let ordinary temporary govt funding expire as the house majority in a healthy 1995 ==&gt; some folks lose their houses ==&gt; sob stories hurt republicans

Cut the budget as employment reaches/surpasses 10% in 2009==&gt; some govt employees lose their jobs like the rest of us ==&gt; cry me a river</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuts that would be politically unthinkable in ordinary times are possible in times of distress/upheaval.</p>
<p>Let ordinary temporary govt funding expire as the house majority in a healthy 1995 ==&gt; some folks lose their houses ==&gt; sob stories hurt republicans</p>
<p>Cut the budget as employment reaches/surpasses 10% in 2009==&gt; some govt employees lose their jobs like the rest of us ==&gt; cry me a river</p>
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		<title>By: LISA BULLOCK-HOCK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LISA BULLOCK-HOCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>everyone in CA is broke.  That union (legalized extortionist) loud mouth needs to shut up.  The tax payers of CA have spoken, and they are fed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>everyone in CA is broke.  That union (legalized extortionist) loud mouth needs to shut up.  The tax payers of CA have spoken, and they are fed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree much with Arnold on anything. But he deserves our praise for negotiating this &quot;compromise&quot;. If he was in my state (Washington) and did the same thing, I would&#039;ve been proud to have voted for him, because reducing the size of government is priority #1 to ensuring freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree much with Arnold on anything. But he deserves our praise for negotiating this &#8220;compromise&#8221;. If he was in my state (Washington) and did the same thing, I would&#8217;ve been proud to have voted for him, because reducing the size of government is priority #1 to ensuring freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: LISA BULLOCK-HOCK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LISA BULLOCK-HOCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awsome!!!!!!!! I can&#039;t wait for the drilling to begin and we show the &quot;there really is no oil out there&quot; environmental crowd that their is and it can be done with minimal effect to the environment.  ANWAR here we come--you&#039;ll be getting drilled next!!!!!!

Take that tax and spend liberals.  You can&#039;t lock up our natural resources and make us suffer forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awsome!!!!!!!! I can&#8217;t wait for the drilling to begin and we show the &#8220;there really is no oil out there&#8221; environmental crowd that their is and it can be done with minimal effect to the environment.  ANWAR here we come&#8211;you&#8217;ll be getting drilled next!!!!!!</p>
<p>Take that tax and spend liberals.  You can&#8217;t lock up our natural resources and make us suffer forever.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>like a frakking UNION.

Whatever might be said about it, it did not show a lack of political courage.  These Democrat legislators are going to get SWAMPED with negative attention from the greenies and the unions.  Oh, and the press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like a frakking UNION.</p>
<p>Whatever might be said about it, it did not show a lack of political courage.  These Democrat legislators are going to get SWAMPED with negative attention from the greenies and the unions.  Oh, and the press.</p>
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		<title>By: NRPax</title>
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		<dc:creator>NRPax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Their decision shows a lack of political courage to stand up to corporate giants and wealthy special interests.&quot; -Yvonne Walker

This coming from a Union thug? The irony tastes pretty good on toast with some garlic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Their decision shows a lack of political courage to stand up to corporate giants and wealthy special interests.&#8221; -Yvonne Walker</p>
<p>This coming from a Union thug? The irony tastes pretty good on toast with some garlic.</p>
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		<title>By: lholsenbeck</title>
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		<dc:creator>lholsenbeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure if it was part of the deal or not, but an oil company also inked a deal today to start exploring off the coast of santa barbara !

drilling rigs and everything !

if they keep this up, people from Texas will start calling Californians kin ! And Californians will be upchucking in their tofu wraps ! 

Just getting a little better every day !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure if it was part of the deal or not, but an oil company also inked a deal today to start exploring off the coast of santa barbara !</p>
<p>drilling rigs and everything !</p>
<p>if they keep this up, people from Texas will start calling Californians kin ! And Californians will be upchucking in their tofu wraps ! </p>
<p>Just getting a little better every day !</p>
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