Conservatives and Integrity


It Better Be What Makes Us Different Than Them

Closing out Aaron Gardner’s excellent series on Principles, Values, and Integrity, we come to Integrity. For the first two installments, see Principles and Values(courtesy Russell Kirk).

Right now there’s plenty of talk about how to take the war to the Democrats, undermine all their efforts at Marxing up the country, disgrace and destroy the media. And we definitely want to do that. I am a part of that movement. I’m a revanchist, I’m petty, vindictive, and vengeful, and I have lots and lots of plans for when Republicans get a chance to even scores. Plans that involve jail sentences, ruined careers, and a good bit worse.

But all in good time, my friends. This is not, and can never be, simply the red team against the blue team. We have principles, good principles that engender freedom, order, and justice. We have values that we hold dearer than our own lives – the sanctity of innocent life, personal liberty, personal property, and justice. But our own internal code demands that we ourselves — and even more, our leaders — live worthy of these principles.

The Democrats can feel free to lift up to positions of honor people like Bill Clinton [serial adulterer, accused rapist, and an unusually good liar], Edward “Ted” Kennedy [negligent homicidist, habitual drunk], John Kerry [fool, tool, liar, treasonist], John Murtha [thief, treasonist], and Barack Obama [we'll leave his unfinished list of Marxist, Alinskyite acts blank].

We shall not have such leaders.

If we believe in something, and most of us here *do* believe at least in general terms, conservative principles (see the first two essays), then we must stand for what we believe in. And if we stand for it, we must live it. We must have integrity.

I want to make sure that you know I am talking both to grassroots conservative activists (i.e., *regular* people like us) and even more, the party establishment — all the elected officials, judges, party people, bureaucrats that claim to be conservative. This means you.

The word integrity comes from the same root as familiar words integer and integrate. Merriam-Webster defines it as incorruptibility, soundness, completeness. For all you math-hating wusses, remember integers? What were integers? Here’s what they were. They were what we call “NOT fractions”. Things that were whole units, not broken apart, not separated. We’ll spare you math wusses the discussion of integrals. The word integration , most people from my generation know from forced school integration — which was integrating black students and white students together into into one whole student body, dispensing with that “separate but equal” canard.

So, ya getting the idea, when it comes to words that sound like integer? Unity, wholeness, purity, incorruptibility. So previous to now, you might have thought that integrity meant having good character, being truthful under pressure, and being trustworthy — certainly all good things, and a person with good personal integrity would display those traits.

What it fundamentally means is that a person is the same through and through, no matter how you slice him. He’s the same, whether people are looking or not. He’s just as loyal to his wife whether she’s in town or out of town.

As an elected representative, he votes what he campaigns on. His vote cannot be bought by bribes or by promises of quid pro quo. He will not be shaken away from his principles when it gets difficult to stand for them. His voice cannot be silenced by the hostile American press. He will consider the good of the nation before Senate “comity”. [Hint to Senators - this means filibuster pretty much every judicial nominee that Obama is likely to serve up] He will fight, tooth and nail, everything the Democrats want to do, by every means legal. He will consider the lives of American troops more dear than his reputation in the House or in the press.

As citizens, integrity means we provide no moral cover for the likes of John Ensign. That sort of thing gets complicated, but integrity leads us to the right path. Because while we condemn a man like that as unworthy to lead [and that man will never lead us henceforth], we allow room for forgiveness, for a man changing and improving his character. We also make sure he’s replaced in the primaries, and not before. The Democrats and the press will not dictate our actions here, and they’ll not choose his successor. Remember, integrity means, at the end of the day that we love our country more than we love our reputation – and winning with a flawed candidate is better than a Democrat of any stripe getting that electoral seat.

Further, as citizens, we choose right over expedient. I’ll not belabour for long the folly of choosing John McCain for a presidential candidate – not because he was a person of low character, but because he had no respect – none – for conservative principles as a governing philosophy, and we had other candidates who did, who could have pulled 46% or better, and would have had enough coattails to get more than 40 Senators and 178 Representatives. Integrity demands Rubio over Crist. It demanded Toomey over Specter in 2004, and Laffey over Chafee in 2006.

Finally, as individuals, it means we live by our moral and ethical standards. Nobody is without sin, but there is a difference, usually a knowable difference between a person who gives it his best shot, and a person who cynically follows when convenient, and otherwise does not.

We judge when we should. The Biblical directive, “judge not, lest ye be judged” in the context does not mean “do not judge”, it means “judge as you would like to be judged”. The Democrats love to call conservatives, particularly SoCons “judgmental”. We can certainly judge the married cretin and known philanderer who drive off a bridge after a party and leave the young lady (not his wife) in it to drown. We certainly judge the man with $90,000 in his freezer. We judge the despicable crud who used the White House as his bachelors-r-us escapades.

We judge all those, because we are willing to be judged, and to have our own judged, by the same standards.

So I offer you integrity, the linchpin that holds together all the principles of conservatism. It ain’t easy or expedient. If it was, the Democrats would do it.


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5 x 5. Thoughtful article, EPU nt

David123 (Diary) Sunday, June 21st at 6:08PM EST (link)

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Great one epu - what integrity to me, means you can trust them to do right in private and

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, June 21st at 8:19PM EST (link)

in situations where they can get away with things that they may never be found out for. This really matters in executive positions and especially as regards foreign policy. Congressmen, not so much, since they merely vote on bills that are in writing.

And yes, one of the main distinguishing characteristics between the dems and the gop is that we police our own and we punish our own.

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Integrity goes to the depth of a man's character.

penguin2 (Diary) Sunday, June 21st at 9:28PM EST (link)

Or a woman’s.

Thoughtful and helpful perspective on the Ensign saga and the bigger picture EPU.

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Integrity...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, June 22nd at 9:22AM EST (link)

Making sure you write a piece on integrity when you said you would…integrity.

;^)

Thanks EPU this wraps up the trilogy perfectly…one might even say that it makes it *whole*.

Great job breaking down integrity at all levels, as the citizen, as the activist, and as the political representative of the people. Very well done.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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The Standard (absolute truth), not standards, which we judge ourselves by,

Vaughn Harold (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 10:23AM EST (link)

is why the left loathes the right. They do not wish for their lifestyles to be judged by that Standard as being wrong, immoral, or sinful, hence why they are ever trying to redefine that Standard so that they can “feel” justified by the majority, instead of “The Standard”.

Amen to that -nt

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 10:49AM EST (link)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
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EPU, I hope you don't lose too many friends when I say ...

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:15PM EST (link)

I (mostly) agree with you.

The only thing I question in your diary is when you write:

I’ll not belabour for long the folly of choosing John McCain for a presidential candidate – not because he was a person of low character, but because he had no respect – none – for conservative principles as a governing philosophy, and we had other candidates who did, who could have pulled 46% or better, and would have had enough coattails to get more than 40 Senators and 178 Representatives. (emphasis added)

Except for Fred Thompson, I’m not sure we did have a better or more conservative alternative to John McCain. As sickening and depressing as that thought may make us, that, I think, was a big part of our problem.

Moreover, I think a major reason we got in that situation is because we conservatives did not have the integrity to admit and publicly proclaim that for the last eight years we had a liberal in the White House. And a not very competent one at that. I may be alone but I for one sincerely believe that if we had the honesty and integrity to consistently say that, then we would have had better options in 2007 and a much better outcome in 2008.

I know most of the things that I write here on RedState are not very popular these days (as if they ever were) but for me, integrity means not trying to sell the country on the idea that Kool-Aid with arsenic in it is preferable to Kool-Aid with strychnine in it because it tastes better or is distributed by our preferred brand. To me integrity means not drinking the Kool-Aid at all.

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Zoot, I don't presume to speak for EPU but since I am tangentially related to this diary...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:30PM EST (link)

I agree with you, President Bush for all the good he did holding the line on Iraq failed the country, the party and the Conservative movement during his 8 year stint.

And I agree that we must not deny that. But what do you want to do about it, run an add campaign saying sorry?

I think what EPU and I were trying to do with this series was to call for a return to the conservative principles and values and integrity that was displayed by Reagan, spoken of by Kirk and Burke, lived by the Founders.

This goes much deeper than just GWB.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


I don't think we need to run an ad campaign

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:51PM EST (link)

We just need to admit and acknowledge it: that George W. Bush was no conservative and, quite frankly, his presidency was in many respects a failure. Unfortunately, that is something we don’t seem able to do. Remember before the election when so many even here on RedState were supporting Bush’s original TARP?

It seems that when Republicans enact liberalism, “conservatives” support liberalism, too. That has to stop!

Even now, some of us are willing to admit that Bush was no conservative, we still cannot admit that he was at least complicit in many of the economic travails and mishaps going on these days. The best thing we can say seems to be, “Yeah, but Obama and the Democrats are worse.”

Which is true but it is still besides the point.

The point is liberalism fails whether those who enact it are Republicans or Democrats. Until conservatives can say that, then ultimately it does not matter which party is in the White House or controls Congress. Either way — quoting Frederick von Hayek, my favorite economist — we are already on the road to serfdom. It’s only a matter of how fast we want to get there.

And yes, the problem goes much deeper than just GWB. The problem goes to us.

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Oh I got the point Zoot...and in the main we agree...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:59PM EST (link)

I guess my question is how long do we need to put a disclaimer on diaries stating that:

We have not had a true conservative president since Ronald Wilson Reagan. This diary should be read in that context. This includes GWB

[wording optional]

Just wondering.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


I think we should run the disclaimer until ...

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 6:15PM EST (link)

We get the next candidate who actually runs on conservative principles (like Reagan did in 1980 and 1984) instead of things like:

Bush I, 1988 – “I will not let Willie Horton out on furlough” (A sentiment I agree with, however, not exactly what I would call a conservative tenet)

Bush 1, 1992 – “Read my lip’s … I raised your taxes after all”

Dole, 1996 – “It’s my turn”

Bush II, 2000 – “I will not philander in the White House like Bill Clinton” (Again, a sentiment I agree with but, again, not exactly what I would call a cornerstone of conservative principles)

Bush II, 2004 – what did GWB run on in 2004, the fact that his opponent should have been tried for treason?

McCain, 2008 – “I’m old and I’m bipartisan. Please elect me President now”

***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!

well then I guess I will save my disclaimer for all posts written between now and 2012...or beyond...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 6:35PM EST (link)

I think it is self evident and needs no disclaimer because the subject excludes McCain/Bush/[insert squish here] by default.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


Aaron, among "us" we understand

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 7:02PM EST (link)

But among most of Americans, they don’t hear. And in this one instance, not because the MSM is drowning us out but because we simply are not speaking.

As you can well imagine, I have many liberal friends and relatives who are (or at least, were initially) ecstatic that Barack Obama is President. But because I was consistent in my criticisms of George W. Bush — and even I will admit that I was not as consistent as I should have been — they listen to my criticisms of Barack Obama.

For example, when many of them complain about the deficit that Bush created “with his tax cuts,” I can easily show them that it was Bush’s out-of-control domestic spending that caused the deficit. And then, as they harangue on about the deleterious effects of deficits, it’s easy to point out that Obama is spending us even faster into a hole than Bush.

Even among my Obamaniac friends, I’ve had a few, “You’re right, let’s hope Obama can/will cut the spending when things get better.”

Hey, they may never vote Republican but I at least take credit for knocking some of the bloom of their Obama-colored glasses. And who knows, maybe one day, they may actually cast a ballot for a conservative.

But the thing is, I would never have gotten that far if I did not speak up against the liberalism of Bush. And quite frankly, with the possible exception of Newt Gingrich, I don’t hear any Republicans or so-called conservatives saying that.

In fact, I used to laugh when I watched “This Week” when they had Karl Rove and this woman from the Leftist Nation magazine on together. It was hilarious because I thought the woman from the Nation used to win the debates. Not because she had the better arguments — she didn’t — but because Karl Rove couldn’t say things like “massive government bailouts don’t work because we tried them under Bush and they failed.”

And that is exactly our problem, too many of us “conservatives” won’t admit that we have been governing like liberals. Where is the integrity in that?

***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!

Dead freaking on, Zoot!

eburke (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 8:38PM EST (link)

I, to my utter shame, drank the Kool-aid in the first term because of the WOT.

My disenchantment grew, blossomed when he started pushing amnesty, and I went into full-fledged apoplexy when Tom Delay, one-time hero of mind, made the comment that ‘we’ve cut spending as much as we can.’ I was so incredulous that at first I thought he was being sarcastic to prove a point. It was when I realized he was serious that I started thinking “we are in deep, deep kimchee as a Party.”

So….consistency is and shall remain our motto.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

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I totally agree with you Zoot

Leopard1996 (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:31PM EST (link)

In this past primary process we had folks who could fit on only one real stool of the three legged stool that is consevatism (or candidates that fell short on an important stool). For example, Huckabee, was for the most part strong on the social leg, but seemed weak on Nat Security or Fiscal Disipline. Guliani, started too late and was DOA for being pro choice, although he was really stron on Nat Security, and unknown really fiscally (NYC turnaround not withstanding). McCain got in totally based on letting the one leggers maul each other, and by independents, and party flippers voting for our weakest candidate.

I am not sure how we resolve that in the next primary is a two stool conservative enough to win a primary, (Nat security, Fiscal) or (Nat Security, Social), or are we going to make perfect the enemy of good.

“The accumluated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, “Save Us!”….and I’ll look down and whisper, “No”…The Watchmen

Be careful, Leopard1996

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:33PM EST (link)

Agreeing with me is a sure way to lose friends around here.

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Heh, You know I agree with you most of the time

kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:38PM EST (link)

Guess what, those views are not as unpopular as they once were!

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You know what

Leopard1996 (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:41PM EST (link)

Us African American conservatives need to stick together when we are in agreement. Now if we could get out that our way of thinking would be better for the overall African American community instead of waiting for the scraps off of the liberals tables, we would really be getting somewhere.

I know I try.

“The accumluated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, “Save Us!”….and I’ll look down and whisper, “No”…The Watchmen

Leopard...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:45PM EST (link)

Us White American Conservatives need to stick together.

I didn’t even like typing that, I don’t see how race enters into this conversation at all. So maybe we could just say us conservatives need to stick together and leave it at that.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Aaron

Leopard1996 (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:57PM EST (link)

Read my reply below, when I saw your post, I wanted to reply the the Login to reply link was all I was getting, eventhough I was logged in.:

For some reason Reply to this, is giving me the login to reply link. I did not mean it that way at all. You are right race does not enter in the picture with me, and never did. I am more referring to the few numbers of us (At least preceived by media, and personal experience).

I am sorry to offend, that was never my intention

“The accumluated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, “Save Us!”….and I’ll look down and whisper, “No”…The Watchmen

We're cool Leopard....nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, June 24th at 9:41AM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 

I think Leopard1996 was just a "shout out"

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 9:01PM EST (link)

There just seem to be so few of us that we have to say something when we “see” on another.

No offense meant on my side, either.

Besides, remember, conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Zoot...seems everyone wants to point at my sig line lately...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, June 24th at 9:50AM EST (link)

I don’t celebrate diversity because diversity in and of itself is meaningless.

12 morons of different racial backgrounds are not smarter than 12 individuals of any single racial makeup solely because of their racial group diversity. The rainbow doesn’t negate the moron factor.

As far as the “Shout Out” I understand….I just wish it wasn’t necessary. I wish African American conservatives weren’t such an anomaly and I wish that just being a conservative was enough to earn a shout out.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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If that's so, then we're all in danger of being friendless.

Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, June 24th at 7:40PM EST (link)

I can agree or disagree with you. Most of the time I agree with you but not always. If disagreeing with you is a prerequisite to having friends, I’d rather be friendless. I’m not a “liberal”, after all, ;-) .

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Well, of *course* I meant Fred

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 6:19PM EST (link)

Although in my opinion , of the Big 5, if you will, McCain was the 4th most electable, behind Rudy, Fred, and Mitt in that order, and the least conservative of the 5.

I maintain that the press, by virtue of early primaries in predominantly squish states, deliberately directed it to McCain, knowing the mean, crusty, non-conservative old b*st*rd was a pretty easy target. But I’ll allow also that the party establishment then and now is loathe to take up the banner of conservatism as if we’re actually proud of what we believe in.

I totally agree that our party has been unwilling to take the chance of serving uncut Koolaid. They just won’t do it, and would rather bleed to death by a thousand tiny cuts than pick up a broadsword and wade into the fight. Cowards.

Hey, if hanging with you gives me a bad rep, so be it. Strong and loyal friends aint all that easy to find.

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And yes, I did say Rudy was more conservative than McCain

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 6:22PM EST (link)

I think that is something a whole lot of people are unwilling to accept, but there it is.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
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Absolutely agreed, EPU. I may have been skittish w/Rudy's

eburke (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 6:32PM EST (link)

social positions but not much more nervous than I was w/John’s and he was a helluva lot better on taxes, spending and the WOT than John was.

But by far the biggest thing Rudy had over John was he understood that the MSM was his enemy and he wasn’t afraid to punch ‘em in the nose instead of sticking his nose up their….well, you get the picture.

And Zoot, I think you’re dead on in your initial assessment above (and I don’t even think that’ll cost me whatever friends I have :-)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

 

I have to disagree about Rudy

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 6:38PM EST (link)

Even aside from the “social issues” which I think we both must admit — and even here, I did hear him say during the campaign that “stare decisis could mean that Roe v. Wade should stand” — there were other issues about him that gave me pause.

For example, I well remember his high-raking staffers explicitly saying that Guiliani decided to let McCain take the heat on the Surge strategy because he [Guiliani] wasn’t sure it would work. While this might not have been a question of conservative principles (whether to support the Surge or not), it did make me question Guiliani’s expertise on foreign policy as well as his “toughness” (whether to take the heat for supporting it or even to come out forthright in opposing the Surge and take the heat for opposing it).

Even more damning to Guiliani for me was when in the Florida Primary he came out in support of Charlie Crist’s ludicrous Federal Hurricane Insurance idea. I’m sorry but there was nothing conservative about Crist’s plan. And while I did give Crist credit for supporting McCain after McCain had come out against his idea, his Federal Hurricane Insurance idea is yet another reason to oppose his bid for the Senate.

Please remember that my first posts on RedState always seemed to have the line “I don’t like McCain and I don’t trust Romney” (which I still don’t) but I will be honest enough to admit that I actually began to think better of McCain when he opposed automobile bailouts in the Michigan Primary (unlike Mitt Romney, who supported them) and opposed Crist’s Federal Hurricane Insurance idea in the Florida Primary (again, unlike Rudy Guiliani). It was then that I began to realize that despite my antipathy for John McCain, the Republicans could easily have done a lot worse in 2008.

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Cogent, rational points as always, Zoot, but I still

eburke (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 8:28PM EST (link)

have to disagree with your disagreement :-) .

First, just to establish where I was/am coming from, of the big 5, Fred occupied slots 1-4 w/the other 4 jammed into one slot. Didn’t/don’t trust Romney; and other than Huck’s social positions I thought his economic populism and foreign policy naivete scared the beejezus out of me (not to mention he seemed a bit slick in his ‘folksiness’.

My biggest problem w/Johnny Mac was never knowing when, where or on what issue his sycophantic love affair w/the MSM would lead him off the reservation. I lived in his district in AZ for his entire time in Congress and always felt that his pro-life chops were of necessity in Maricopa County not out of conviction. I’m not saying that Rudy made me sleep well at night on social issues but his judicial staff was top notch federalists and I had zip, zero, nada confidence that McCain wouldn’t fold like a wet, warm tortilla on judge nominations.

You also make valid points on Rudy and McCain in MI & FL but doggone it, every time I tried to warm up to Johnny Mac he’d kick sand in my face with his ‘bipartisan’ garbage. He talked about ‘naming names’ and making the pork barrelists famous and then went up to Washington and merrily went along with the whole TARP debacle costing him, IMO, the election.

I wasn’t a big Rudy fan (cf. above rankings for Fred) but at least he seemed to understand that the MSM was his enemy and didn’t hesitate to call them out when they needed it (which is often). Didn’t really matter to me what John said…I just never trusted the guy to be there when I needed him.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

eburke, I totally agree with everything you just wrote!

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 8:49PM EST (link)

Especially

First, just to establish where I was/am coming from, of the big 5, Fred occupied slots 1-4 w/the other 4 jammed into one slot.

I completely agree!

Just so I am clear, I am not saying that John McCain was or is this great bastion of conservatism. Far from it!

The only thing I am saying is that, for me personally, the closer I started to look at the other major candidates, the better John McCain started to look in comparison.

Again, using Rudy as an example, I also admired his seeming willingness to take on the MSM. But then he allows “McCain to take the heat” for the Surge and comes out in support of Crist’s big government insurance plan for Florida. Sorry, but I then had to start questioning Rudy’s “fight.”

Again, it wasn’t that McCain was so “good” — he wasn’t — it was just that everyone else (excepting Thompson — was so bad.

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Well there, Zoot, coming from you I consider that quite

eburke (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 8:59PM EST (link)

a compliment.

We can certainly quibble around the edges but I’ve read enuf of your stuff to know that there are two things on which we are in *total* agreement:

1) The Pubs better learn to espouse and adhere to conservative values both in and out of power because they understand and believe in them or they’re screwed (present and past tense); and,

2) with the exception of Fred, that was one sorry group of candidates.

Oh, and btw, have always wanted to tell you – I absolutely *love* your handle (in a manly kind of way, of course)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

 
 
 
 
 

Thanks, EPU. Good friends are hard to find

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 7:04PM EST (link)

And even though we may disagree about the exact ranking of the “Big 5,” I think we both agree that, aside from Fred, it was a pretty sorry bunch all told.

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Zoot, I don't know much of what has gone before,

penguin2 (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 7:27PM EST (link)

but I like reading your stuff. You have a lot of enlightening and honest points to make. I like considering things that I had not known. For example, you just shared some info about Rudy, which I didn’t know and I certainly had liked Rudy over McCain. It’s good to get all points of view, because everyone here backs up why h/she believe as they do.

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Kinda pointless now but I must say

AKSteveB (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 8:49PM EST (link)

it is too bad Fred didn’t do his talk show for a couple of years before the last election. He’s got a way with folks who wouldnt give the harder edged hosts the time of day.

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penguin2, I'm just being somewhat melodramatic

ZootSuit (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 8:55PM EST (link)

The thing is, even I notice that it seems that most of my posts now are critical of so-called conservatives and Republicans. That is because, whether anyone agrees with me or not, I think the real problem we are facing is not that Obama and the Democrats in control are basically Marxist: the real problem is that so-called conservatives don’t seem to be much better.

And even worse, I think many so-called conservatives and Republicans really don’t want to be much better.

***** Unrepentant African-American nationalist, Unapologetic African-American conservative!

Dead.Freaking.On. nt

eburke (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 9:01PM EST (link)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

 
 
 
 
 

As usual when it comes to your posts, can't disagree :)

aesthete (Diary) Friday, June 26th at 4:46PM EST (link)

nt

The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton

 
 

Aaron

Leopard1996 (Diary) Tuesday, June 23rd at 5:56PM EST (link)

For some reason Reply to this, is giving me the login to reply link. I did not mean it that way at all. You are right race does not enter in the picture with me, and never did. I am more referring to the few numbers of us (At least preceived by media, and personal experience).

I am sorry to offend, that was never my intention.

“The accumluated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, “Save Us!”….and I’ll look down and whisper, “No”…The Watchmen

 

Just a thought

Bill Higgins (Diary) Wednesday, June 24th at 4:49AM EST (link)

Why not find a candidate for 2012 that runs solely as a conservative?
I’ll Be honest, alot of republicans I know, are tired of the US vs. THEM mentality.
Someone who will bring Conservatives (and along with it the Republican Party) back th where we were during the Reagan administration.
Because, love him or hate him, Reagan defined Conservatism in the last third of the century.

Just a thought.

Bill

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great read, EPU

jdub19 Wednesday, June 24th at 7:49AM EST (link)

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” Got to love the Lord for making things like that.”
Morally Compromised

 

Matthew said it best

alabamared (Diary) Thursday, June 25th at 10:39AM EST (link)

“What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul?”

Politicans and voters cannot lose their soul (however they define it) in exchange for power. That way, madness lies.