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		<title>By: gamecock</title>
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		<dc:creator>gamecock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;appointed, but Bush is the expert on this matter of vetting judges. He has the track record to prove it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2008/12/02/no-we-do-not-suck-and-we-did-not-lose-t/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Man from Hope. He got beat out by the Mayor because the Mayor had one and a half legs (one leg for fiscal and a half leg for domestic security), and the Man only had 1 leg and it was pretty weak due to ethical questions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then there was Mac in the Middle (one arm on this side of the aisle and one arm on the other side of the aisle).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would have been pretty happy if Mitt had survived and ecstatic if it had been Fred.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, optimism reigns since the majority is non-veto-proof. Whew! Was that breeze I just felt whizzing past my ear caused by a bullet fired by the cockeyed Senate Majority Leader? Nya nya nya nya nya.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also a good day today seeing a candidate for Congress posting to RS his prospectus on Taking Back The House. Music sweeeeeeet music. I&#039;m a Northerner, but I bet my money will be good at the website.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man from Hope. He got beat out by the Mayor because the Mayor had one and a half legs (one leg for fiscal and a half leg for domestic security), and the Man only had 1 leg and it was pretty weak due to ethical questions.</p>
<p>Then there was Mac in the Middle (one arm on this side of the aisle and one arm on the other side of the aisle).</p>
<p>I would have been pretty happy if Mitt had survived and ecstatic if it had been Fred.</p>
<p>But, optimism reigns since the majority is non-veto-proof. Whew! Was that breeze I just felt whizzing past my ear caused by a bullet fired by the cockeyed Senate Majority Leader? Nya nya nya nya nya.</p>
<p>Also a good day today seeing a candidate for Congress posting to RS his prospectus on Taking Back The House. Music sweeeeeeet music. I&#8217;m a Northerner, but I bet my money will be good at the website.</p>
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		<title>By: pilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The only way you blame the media is if you really give a crap what the media is saying.  I know you would have enjoyed seeing Pinch et al frog marched in orange jump suits out of their NT Times office into prison, and history has examples of US Presidents who did smack down the media in this manner.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you ignore them the strategy will only work if the citizens ignore them as well.  So the problem can be found with many people looking in their mirrors.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Personally I have never cared about what the media has to say about anything unless they were simply reporting who, what when, where and why. Due to political correctness and multicultural relativism nowadays they now only report when and where lest anyone&#039;s feelings are hurt with the who, what and why reporting.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way you blame the media is if you really give a crap what the media is saying.  I know you would have enjoyed seeing Pinch et al frog marched in orange jump suits out of their NT Times office into prison, and history has examples of US Presidents who did smack down the media in this manner.</p>
<p>If you ignore them the strategy will only work if the citizens ignore them as well.  So the problem can be found with many people looking in their mirrors.</p>
<p>Personally I have never cared about what the media has to say about anything unless they were simply reporting who, what when, where and why. Due to political correctness and multicultural relativism nowadays they now only report when and where lest anyone&#8217;s feelings are hurt with the who, what and why reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: LJMiller96</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The media is hostile, but they love and will (begrudgingly) support a winner. It&#039;s conservatives&#039; job to win and win again.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media is hostile, but they love and will (begrudgingly) support a winner. It&#8217;s conservatives&#8217; job to win and win again.</p>
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		<title>By: LJMiller96</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJMiller96</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Gang of 14 did it for me. At least with Paul and Tancredo you knew what they would do. With Mack you knew unless it was national-security related he would stab Republicans in the back, but never how.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gang of 14 did it for me. At least with Paul and Tancredo you knew what they would do. With Mack you knew unless it was national-security related he would stab Republicans in the back, but never how.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They are nothing more than &quot;a&quot; problem.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The PROBLEM is:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our supposed &quot;leadership&quot; who have no clue about the foundations of Conservative governance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leadership who think that &quot;bipartisanship&quot; is a good thing, and partisanship that is driven by Conservative principles is a bad thing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leadership that refuses to accept the fact that the MSM is part and parcel of the DNC and nothing we do will change that and who refuse to act accordingly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bottom line, it&#039;s not necessarily a big deal that the media is in the tank for the DNC.  They were there in the &#039;80&#039;s during the Reagan Administration and they were MUCH tougher on Reagan and his people than they&#039;ve ever been on GWB.  The difference is that Reagan recognized it and proactively did something about it.  Bush hid under his desk and worked extra hard to make sure nobody said anything nasty (see making Tony Snow apologize).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our lack of leadership, effective leadership is the problem.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are nothing more than &#8220;a&#8221; problem.</p>
<p>The PROBLEM is:</p>
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<p>Our supposed &#8220;leadership&#8221; who have no clue about the foundations of Conservative governance.</p>
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<p>Leadership who think that &#8220;bipartisanship&#8221; is a good thing, and partisanship that is driven by Conservative principles is a bad thing.</p>
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<p>Leadership that refuses to accept the fact that the MSM is part and parcel of the DNC and nothing we do will change that and who refuse to act accordingly.</p>
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<p>Bottom line, it&#8217;s not necessarily a big deal that the media is in the tank for the DNC.  They were there in the &#8217;80&#8242;s during the Reagan Administration and they were MUCH tougher on Reagan and his people than they&#8217;ve ever been on GWB.  The difference is that Reagan recognized it and proactively did something about it.  Bush hid under his desk and worked extra hard to make sure nobody said anything nasty (see making Tony Snow apologize).</p>
<p>Our lack of leadership, effective leadership is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2008/12/02/no-we-do-not-suck-and-we-did-not-lose-t/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just occurred to me. Out of my 5 nominee preferences for POTUS, McCain was placed guess where. Exactly in the middle (3rd place out of 5.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just occurred to me. Out of my 5 nominee preferences for POTUS, McCain was placed guess where. Exactly in the middle (3rd place out of 5.)</p>
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		<title>By: aceintx</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2008/12/02/no-we-do-not-suck-and-we-did-not-lose-t/#comment-558</link>
		<dc:creator>aceintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;nt&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: aceintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>aceintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As in brave heart...when the commoners were in the heat of battle and the trap against the enemy was brilliantly laid and it was time for our Lords and masters to ride in from the flank and crush the enemy we watched as the showed us their asses as they rode off the field!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The point of this post is that we don&#039;t suck...the people who purport to represent us but refuse to do so suck!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As in brave heart&#8230;when the commoners were in the heat of battle and the trap against the enemy was brilliantly laid and it was time for our Lords and masters to ride in from the flank and crush the enemy we watched as the showed us their asses as they rode off the field!</p>
<p>The point of this post is that we don&#8217;t suck&#8230;the people who purport to represent us but refuse to do so suck!</p>
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		<title>By: aceintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>aceintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;but I had Paul ahead of McCain though it was just by a nose hair&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but I had Paul ahead of McCain though it was just by a nose hair</p>
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		<title>By: aceintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>aceintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;nt&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: aceintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>aceintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But pointing fingers in the right place is as important to the process back as anything...I agree we don&#039;t need to argue about who&#039;s responsible...it&#039;s pain for all to see though the &quot;appeal to the moderates and indies to win&quot; crowd won&#039;t stop whining about the circular firing squad is busy shooting at them when all I see is a firing line or an entrenchment firing at those who would subvert us and continue selling us out to the enemy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;anyway...I do agree with you in that we don&#039;t accomplish anything with pointing fingers...we need to focus on naming names, showing culpability and replacing the culprits with Conservatives!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But pointing fingers in the right place is as important to the process back as anything&#8230;I agree we don&#8217;t need to argue about who&#8217;s responsible&#8230;it&#8217;s pain for all to see though the &#8220;appeal to the moderates and indies to win&#8221; crowd won&#8217;t stop whining about the circular firing squad is busy shooting at them when all I see is a firing line or an entrenchment firing at those who would subvert us and continue selling us out to the enemy.</p>
<p>anyway&#8230;I do agree with you in that we don&#8217;t accomplish anything with pointing fingers&#8230;we need to focus on naming names, showing culpability and replacing the culprits with Conservatives!</p>
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		<title>By: aceintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>aceintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;You simply have to make compromises. You do NOT spit on your donors if you want to survive in politics. When in office you also have to compromise. When you are in power it&#039;s not always black and white. Sometimes both of your options are bad. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So you spit on your voters and your party?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I see master...please continue your lesson and your ignorant and unworthy Padawan will learn at you feet!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;No politician is going to spit on a donor who donates millions to his own party. You&#039;re right, McCain should have kept his mouth shut about naming names. It was a promise he couldn&#039;t keep. Like I said earlier,I don&#039;t see anyone else naming those donors,those crooks. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You keep saying you don&#039;t spit on your donors? once again...could you please name names oh wise and powerful one? I wasn&#039;t aware McCain or any other Republicans took, money from anyone involved in the fannie and freddie Countrywide raids...again I await your answer for names and details...because I think any Republican who assisted these crooks should be strung up by their thumbs right along side Frank and Dodd and Tyson and Rubin and Raines and any of the rest of them!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frankly I can&#039;t believe you are trying to justify any of this...but speak on oh enlightened one!  &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;If Palin and Jindal want to be serious candidates in 2012 they won&#039;t name them either. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh yeah...assisting the Democrats and a few corrupt Republicans cover up their culpability in this corruption is the way they should endear themselves to the American voter!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;We are not politicians here on Redstate, so it is our duty to do what these politicians can&#039;t do. The media can&#039;t shut us up so we can name names. Expecting politicians to destroy the very people who give them the money to run their campaigns is very,very naive,Aaron.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your wisdom is beyond measure oh wise and powerful master...Do tell...We&#039;re naive and eager to learn. So...since we&#039;re on Redstate and can name names...do tell! &lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Are you watching Obama backtracking on his promise to get out of Iraq in 16 months? Guess what,one of the biggest donors to his transition and also to his recent campaign is a family who are the biggest defense contractors in the world! Why do you think they donated to a man who has promised to kill the golden goose? Because they knew that once in power he would have to compromise or else no reelection for The One. We might be in Iraq for years to come if these donors get their way. That&#039;s reality Aaron. Principle? That&#039;s for philosophers,not politicians.No more on this topic. We are hijacking this diary by talking about a topic that has nothing to do with the diary. Adios.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;OK...finally we get to the money quote...now I&#039;ve seen the light...we should all strive to be like Obama and encourage our leadership to do the same...lie...lie ...and lie some more and then whine when we don&#039;t get the leadership we were promised!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m so glad I ran across this because Ive been an unwashed and ignorant peasant all this time and now I&#039;m free!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>You simply have to make compromises. You do NOT spit on your donors if you want to survive in politics. When in office you also have to compromise. When you are in power it&#8217;s not always black and white. Sometimes both of your options are bad. </p>
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<p>So you spit on your voters and your party?</p>
<p>I see master&#8230;please continue your lesson and your ignorant and unworthy Padawan will learn at you feet!</p>
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<p>No politician is going to spit on a donor who donates millions to his own party. You&#8217;re right, McCain should have kept his mouth shut about naming names. It was a promise he couldn&#8217;t keep. Like I said earlier,I don&#8217;t see anyone else naming those donors,those crooks. </p>
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<p>You keep saying you don&#8217;t spit on your donors? once again&#8230;could you please name names oh wise and powerful one? I wasn&#8217;t aware McCain or any other Republicans took, money from anyone involved in the fannie and freddie Countrywide raids&#8230;again I await your answer for names and details&#8230;because I think any Republican who assisted these crooks should be strung up by their thumbs right along side Frank and Dodd and Tyson and Rubin and Raines and any of the rest of them!</p>
<p>Frankly I can&#8217;t believe you are trying to justify any of this&#8230;but speak on oh enlightened one!  </p>
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<p>If Palin and Jindal want to be serious candidates in 2012 they won&#8217;t name them either. </p>
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<p>Oh yeah&#8230;assisting the Democrats and a few corrupt Republicans cover up their culpability in this corruption is the way they should endear themselves to the American voter!</p>
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<p>We are not politicians here on Redstate, so it is our duty to do what these politicians can&#8217;t do. The media can&#8217;t shut us up so we can name names. Expecting politicians to destroy the very people who give them the money to run their campaigns is very,very naive,Aaron.</p>
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<p>Your wisdom is beyond measure oh wise and powerful master&#8230;Do tell&#8230;We&#8217;re naive and eager to learn. So&#8230;since we&#8217;re on Redstate and can name names&#8230;do tell! </p>
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<p>Are you watching Obama backtracking on his promise to get out of Iraq in 16 months? Guess what,one of the biggest donors to his transition and also to his recent campaign is a family who are the biggest defense contractors in the world! Why do you think they donated to a man who has promised to kill the golden goose? Because they knew that once in power he would have to compromise or else no reelection for The One. We might be in Iraq for years to come if these donors get their way. That&#8217;s reality Aaron. Principle? That&#8217;s for philosophers,not politicians.No more on this topic. We are hijacking this diary by talking about a topic that has nothing to do with the diary. Adios.</p>
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<p>OK&#8230;finally we get to the money quote&#8230;now I&#8217;ve seen the light&#8230;we should all strive to be like Obama and encourage our leadership to do the same&#8230;lie&#8230;lie &#8230;and lie some more and then whine when we don&#8217;t get the leadership we were promised!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad I ran across this because Ive been an unwashed and ignorant peasant all this time and now I&#8217;m free!!!</p>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;a comment and must have deleted it. I only can add that if Republicans are allowed to nominate Republicans, then we would have a forum and an opportunity to teach what conservatives stand for. As it is now the temptation for the office seekers to pander mindlessly is evidently too strong.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Down With Bipartisanship! Bright primary colors!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a comment and must have deleted it. I only can add that if Republicans are allowed to nominate Republicans, then we would have a forum and an opportunity to teach what conservatives stand for. As it is now the temptation for the office seekers to pander mindlessly is evidently too strong.</p>
<p>Down With Bipartisanship! Bright primary colors!</p>
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		<title>By: aceintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>aceintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;See,the problem a lot of people on this site don&#039;t want to acknowledge is that about half of the crooks involved in this scam are in fact Republicans.
   It&#039;s easy to blame it on the Clintons,but were they in power? It is a combination of very powerful people,of both parties,who are guilty.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I named names to back up what I had to say...can you?&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;Going on Fox News and preaching to the choir wouldn&#039;t have gotten McCain elected. You have to win independents and some Democrats to get elected. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First off...Obama didn&#039;t add to his vote from what Kerry got in 2004, McCain lost Conservatives...maybe preaching to the quire rather than pissing down their leg would have done him some good. O&#039;rielly has the largest audience in the news business...you go to where the voters are you don&#039;t go to a bunch of dinosaur media outlets that are losing market share to appeal to people who wouldn&#039;t vote for you anyway because moderates and independents and anyone left of Micheal Moore quit watching NBC, CBS and ABC years ago!  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;..Second, how does going to people you know will rape you and dropping your pants in front of them help you?...You said yourself the media is/was in the tank for Obama...so what good did McCain and his parade of fools think they would gain by exposing himself to their ridicule and dishonest reporting and editing? And what was the point of scripting Palin and throwing her to the wolves? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Finally and most importantly...&lt;strong&gt;&quot;You have to win independents and some Democrats to get elected.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
Yeah...I know...I&#039;ve had that sermon preached to me since last March and it rings a little hollow after that amount of time and the major disaster that strategy got us! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Most of the people who received billions donate large sums to both parties. A lot of these thieves are Republicans.`&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again...names?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;That&#039;s why it&#039;s easy to say he should have named names,but as a practical matter,do you dare attack the very people who donate to your own party? Do you name the people who are donating to your own campaign? Come on,let&#039;s be serious here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So you&#039;re saying John McCain...the self described maverick and man of honor...that champion of truth, and the people...the great man of the people and champion of Campaign Finance Reform would take money from these crooks and robber barons?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;hmm&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Surely nobody can be that gullible. To be principled and a modern politican is extremely difficult. To survive you have to make compromises. To survive for 30 years in politics in modern America means you have to leave some of your principles behind. That&#039;s the reality of it. If someone wants to be a one term Senator and be principled that&#039;s one thing. But to survive for decades as so many of these people do,means you have to sacrifice something. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;OK...I&#039;m gullible...if everything you say above is true then I&#039;m a babbling fool. I&#039;m just stupid for thinking anyone should have any principles and stand for anything beyond their own position in office and their own self aggrandizement. I mean really...Why would I expect honesty and integrity out of our standard bearer and the great God of honor in the US Senate &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;That&#039;s why politicians have the same respect as salesmen. If it&#039;s so easy,why don&#039;t some of the OTHER Republican Senators name the names? You think only McCain knows who they are? I don&#039;t see former politicians naming names either. Did Giuliani or Thompson or Romney name the names? None of them is in office right now and you see they are silent.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You ask the question and then you answered it...none of them are in office though the would do well to start naming names. But they&#039;re noth the ones that told everyone how famous they were going to make these crooks...McCain promised he would...should the most self righteous and pompous ass in the United States Senate keep his word if he&#039;s such a man of honor and integrity?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;If we are going to depend on politicians we are in trouble. That&#039;s why Redstate is so important. We have to speak out. We have to write blogs. United we can make a difference. Splintered,we are screwed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yeah...that&#039;s why the members of the RMSP and the liberal Republicans in congress can always be counted on to be team players and support the plans and goals of the party!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFT!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>See,the problem a lot of people on this site don&#8217;t want to acknowledge is that about half of the crooks involved in this scam are in fact Republicans.<br />
   It&#8217;s easy to blame it on the Clintons,but were they in power? It is a combination of very powerful people,of both parties,who are guilty.</p>
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<p>I named names to back up what I had to say&#8230;can you?</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Going on Fox News and preaching to the choir wouldn&#8217;t have gotten McCain elected. You have to win independents and some Democrats to get elected. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>First off&#8230;Obama didn&#8217;t add to his vote from what Kerry got in 2004, McCain lost Conservatives&#8230;maybe preaching to the quire rather than pissing down their leg would have done him some good. O&#8217;rielly has the largest audience in the news business&#8230;you go to where the voters are you don&#8217;t go to a bunch of dinosaur media outlets that are losing market share to appeal to people who wouldn&#8217;t vote for you anyway because moderates and independents and anyone left of Micheal Moore quit watching NBC, CBS and ABC years ago!  </p>
<p>..Second, how does going to people you know will rape you and dropping your pants in front of them help you?&#8230;You said yourself the media is/was in the tank for Obama&#8230;so what good did McCain and his parade of fools think they would gain by exposing himself to their ridicule and dishonest reporting and editing? And what was the point of scripting Palin and throwing her to the wolves? </p>
<p>Finally and most importantly&#8230;<strong>&#8220;You have to win independents and some Democrats to get elected.&#8221;</strong><br />
Yeah&#8230;I know&#8230;I&#8217;ve had that sermon preached to me since last March and it rings a little hollow after that amount of time and the major disaster that strategy got us! </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Most of the people who received billions donate large sums to both parties. A lot of these thieves are Republicans.`</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Again&#8230;names?</p>
<blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s easy to say he should have named names,but as a practical matter,do you dare attack the very people who donate to your own party? Do you name the people who are donating to your own campaign? Come on,let&#8217;s be serious here.</p>
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<p>So you&#8217;re saying John McCain&#8230;the self described maverick and man of honor&#8230;that champion of truth, and the people&#8230;the great man of the people and champion of Campaign Finance Reform would take money from these crooks and robber barons?</p>
<p>hmm</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Surely nobody can be that gullible. To be principled and a modern politican is extremely difficult. To survive you have to make compromises. To survive for 30 years in politics in modern America means you have to leave some of your principles behind. That&#8217;s the reality of it. If someone wants to be a one term Senator and be principled that&#8217;s one thing. But to survive for decades as so many of these people do,means you have to sacrifice something. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>OK&#8230;I&#8217;m gullible&#8230;if everything you say above is true then I&#8217;m a babbling fool. I&#8217;m just stupid for thinking anyone should have any principles and stand for anything beyond their own position in office and their own self aggrandizement. I mean really&#8230;Why would I expect honesty and integrity out of our standard bearer and the great God of honor in the US Senate </p>
<blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s why politicians have the same respect as salesmen. If it&#8217;s so easy,why don&#8217;t some of the OTHER Republican Senators name the names? You think only McCain knows who they are? I don&#8217;t see former politicians naming names either. Did Giuliani or Thompson or Romney name the names? None of them is in office right now and you see they are silent.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>You ask the question and then you answered it&#8230;none of them are in office though the would do well to start naming names. But they&#8217;re noth the ones that told everyone how famous they were going to make these crooks&#8230;McCain promised he would&#8230;should the most self righteous and pompous ass in the United States Senate keep his word if he&#8217;s such a man of honor and integrity?</p>
<blockquote>
<p>If we are going to depend on politicians we are in trouble. That&#8217;s why Redstate is so important. We have to speak out. We have to write blogs. United we can make a difference. Splintered,we are screwed.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yeah&#8230;that&#8217;s why the members of the RMSP and the liberal Republicans in congress can always be counted on to be team players and support the plans and goals of the party!</p>
<p>PFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFTPFT!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;minds concentrated. We can&#039;t Federal Express a Dead Amoeba with a noose around its neck to all the usual suspects. Or can we?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Someone diaried eloquently today regarding the last ditch efforts that were required to keep Georgia safe for democracy. Martin being history was a good outcome, and Eric&#039;s roundup of Georgia activists is positively heartening. Organize organize organize my hearties.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And side note,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When can we have another national talk like a pirate day? You know, what with the whole pirates of the arabian sea thing going on and all.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>minds concentrated. We can&#8217;t Federal Express a Dead Amoeba with a noose around its neck to all the usual suspects. Or can we?</p>
<p>Someone diaried eloquently today regarding the last ditch efforts that were required to keep Georgia safe for democracy. Martin being history was a good outcome, and Eric&#8217;s roundup of Georgia activists is positively heartening. Organize organize organize my hearties.</p>
<p>And side note,</p>
<p>When can we have another national talk like a pirate day? You know, what with the whole pirates of the arabian sea thing going on and all.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the open primaries must be done away with, or we will continue to get unelectable candidates chosen by the Dems, and the independents.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the open primaries must be done away with, or we will continue to get unelectable candidates chosen by the Dems, and the independents.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;THEY&lt;/em&gt; understand that as well as we do.  :&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>THEY</em> understand that as well as we do.  :>)</p>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That is what is needed. I have moved on from the &quot;what went wrong&quot; phase. Personally, it was obvious to me from the time Fred lost in South Carolina. We lost control of the nominating process because the center had no place to go on the Dem side. Because of the crappy candidates the Dems had running, our open primaries killed the only conservative running, along with all the other bad stuff that helped us end up with a not so conservative leading the ticket.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am looking for ways to keep my optimism strong and for me a year is long enough to bemoan the squishiness of being that is the R brand today.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is what is needed. I have moved on from the &#8220;what went wrong&#8221; phase. Personally, it was obvious to me from the time Fred lost in South Carolina. We lost control of the nominating process because the center had no place to go on the Dem side. Because of the crappy candidates the Dems had running, our open primaries killed the only conservative running, along with all the other bad stuff that helped us end up with a not so conservative leading the ticket.</p>
<p>I am looking for ways to keep my optimism strong and for me a year is long enough to bemoan the squishiness of being that is the R brand today.</p>
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		<title>By: gamecock</title>
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		<dc:creator>gamecock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;case where a Dubya appointed judge violated his oath to uphold the Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You see, &quot;becker, on this issue we have data.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>case where a Dubya appointed judge violated his oath to uphold the Constitution.</p>
<p>You see, &#8220;becker, on this issue we have data.</p>
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