Say good-bye to Taiwan


I don't think we have all that much time

Now that surrender-monkey statist Democrats run the Presidency, House and Senate, Judiciary, State, DOD, and CIA, there will be no more delay by the enemies of freedom.

At home, look for the so-called Fairness Doctrine to be used as a weapon to shut down conservative dissent. It will not succeed but they will surely try it. Also look for the accelerated attempts to socialize everything, and to use the educational systems to indoctrinate our children into leftist-socialist-Marxist doctrines. Expect accelerated class-warfare, and the day will come soon when we will look back fondly on the current bad economy (caused by Democrats) as ‘back when we actually HAD an economy’.

But in reference to America’s enemies abroad, the election of a Chicago-machine appeaser and unstoppable majorities in Congress bode even worse. Terrorists are emboldened, and given Bambi’s plans for our military (let’s just say the term ‘projection of power’ has been dropped fro the lexicon), all of the friends of America whose very existence benefit from the tacit muscle of American force — Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, South Korea, Georgia, Ukraine, Kuwait, Lebanon, and Taiwan — are on notice:

Hey babe, you’re on your own.

And for Taiwan, this signals the end of that nation. When China takes it either by invasion or coercion, the United States may not even make a wimper.

Just a refresher on how Taiwan (aka Republic of China) came to exist in its current sorta-nation limbo (the following borrows heavily from Wikipedia, feel free to dispute fine points):

Pre-Chinese Taiwan:
Let’s begin in 1895, when Imperial Japan finally and completely possessed the island. Previous to that, the political history was a mish-mash of violent native tribalism and incomplete and ineffective Chinese rule. In 1895, following one of many Chinese-Japanese skirmishes, Taiwan was surrendered by treaty to Japan, which quickly quelled native revolts and introduced complete order and civilization for the first time ever. Japan quickly brought Taiwan into the world-wide industrial age as well.

During WW2, which in the Pacific Theater was actually a hot war starting in 1931, Taiwan was a naval center and also a center for forced POW labor in its various industries and mining operations.

Chinese Taiwan:
But by treaty upon Japan’s surrender in 1945, Taiwan was handed over to the Republic of China (ROC), led by Chiang Kai-Shek. Beginning in 1912, ROC was the government of mainland China. But in 1949, the communists, led by Mao Tse-Tung staged a successful civil war that conquered all of mainland China, birthing the so-called Peoples’ Republic of China (PRC), which rules to this day, pollutes this planet like no other, and recently hosted the Olympics. Nationalist forces led by Chiang Kai-Shek retreated to Taiwan, so that island (and outliers) became the sole remaining province of the ROC. To be fair, the ROC was an authoritarian one-party state, finally converting to a democratic government with multiple parties and free elections in the 1990′s.

The current stalemate:
From the beginning, PRC has claimed Taiwan as a rebellious province. The ROC has claimed Taiwan as a sovereign nation – more exactly, the ROC considers itself to be the sole legitimate authority of all of China. The PRC has a “One-China” policy, overtly stating that it plans to re-annex Taiwan. Any nation that accepts Taiwan as a sovereign nation, PRC will not have diplomatic relations with (by policy). However, many nations have informal diplomatic offices in Taiwan, and Taiwan likewise has de facto embassies elsewhere.

The topic of reunification is a political football in Taiwan, with substantial forces in favor of joining the PRC voluntarily. The rather remarkable status that Hong Kong maintains even after being absorbed by the PRC in 1999 has not gone unnoticed. Also noticed — the impressive arsenal aimed its way, combined with the increasingly wuss nature of American diplomacy vis a vis the PRC.

The outside world has various viewpoints, but the position of the United States has been, and remains (momentarily) this: The situation must be resolved peaceably, and force by PRC will result in the USA blocking by force.

Meanwhile, the last 15 years have seen the PRC grow massively both militarily and economically. They have aggressively pursued alliances in Africa, they virtually own the Panama Canal, and are undergoing massive industrialization. Meanwhile they have a huge buildup in missiles, troops, and naval ships centered on the mainland directly across from Taiwan, which sits a mere 110 miles off the coast.

American muscle – the final defense:
The United States has been a chief patron and business partner of Taiwan, and has considerable military muscle in the neighborhood, always on watch. It is my opinion (and may or may not be the dominant opinion) that if not for American muscle, PRC would long ago have re-annexed Taiwan.

Anyone who disputes that premise, well, we are about to find out something. I have not heard an official Obama statement regarding Taiwan. If he has already thrown them under the bus, I would not be surprised. If he has made any sort of statement supporting the current US stance, I frankly do not believe him. And China, like the terrorists, can smell the stench of fear, appeasement, and wishy-washy group-think going on in the Obama camp. They’ve been waiting for this moment.

I just know that starting January 21, 2009, if I lived in Taiwan, I would already be gone.


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MGamo (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 3:17PM EST (link)

Ukraine and some of the former Soviet satellites to the list, Latvia and Estonia, because you know Russia’s going to pull a Krushchev-Kennedy part deux with Barry in there.

“A man who never quits is never defeated.” – Fred D. Thompson

I did list Ukraine

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 3:27PM EST (link)

But you are right — all those other nations recently liberated from the Soviet Empire would fit here too.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
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Don't forget Africa...

izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 3:32PM EST (link)

…the parts of Africa that are not under Muslim rule/control now probably will be in 4 years. Obama will help his old pal Odinga in Kenya get the ball rolling with the help of Kenya’s Muslim community.

Democracy, freedom and Christianity will all be under attack around the world and it all begins here in America on Jan. 20th 2009…

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 

Its going

mdc (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 3:39PM EST (link)

to be sad watching this happen.
There will be tough times ahead for us and many others.

 

The US Military

exitsfunnel Wednesday, November 12th at 3:44PM EST (link)

Setting aside the specific issue of Taiwan, I think that the reality of the new economy is that the military budget is going to shrink considerably over the next decade and a half regardless of which party controls the government. We are about to enter an era of trillion dollar budget deficits. A more humble foreign policy is just, I think, going to be a financial reality.

-exits

hmmmm, maybe so, maybe not

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 5:55PM EST (link)

I don’t know, exits. For sure, the ext 4 years. But if the coming leftward lurch leads to (even worse) economic disaster, conservatives execute a successful takeover of the GOP, then the newly-conservative GOP takes Washington in the backlash….then the military may return, and the deficits may get reined in.

Alot of ifs, that.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 
 

Ummm....

Vorkosigan Wednesday, November 12th at 11:09PM EST (link)

Japan did not bring civilization to the island. They brought Japanese rule to an island which already had several civilizations going in it. The island declared independence in 1895, and the Japanese quelled that early Asian republic.

“Reunification” is a loaded word that assume Taiwan is part of China. It has never been. It was a holding of the non-Chinese Manchu empire, but no Han emperor ever owned it.

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But by treaty upon Japan’s surrender in 1945, Taiwan was handed over to the Republic of China (ROC), led by Chiang Kai-Shek
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This is utterly wrong. The ROC occupied Taiwan at the behest of the wartime allies. The only treaty that assigns Taiwan status is the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty which stripped Japan of Taiwan but awarded sovereignty to no one, purposely, as the Powers did not want “Cash My Check” to get hold of Taiwan. Although it is not generally known, Taiwan is jointly occupied by the US and the ROC. ROC claims that Taiwan is part of China are illegal and illegitimate, and PRC claims are mere territorial expansion. The official though quiet US position is that the status of Taiwan is undetermined and has been since 1945.

More to the point, there are almost no forces in favor of joining the PRC except some elites in the current ruling party.

Finally, as for selling out Taiwan, that was the goal of President Bush, who imposed an arms freeze on the island, downgraded relations, reduced mil-to-mil contacts, and denigrated its democracy and independent status. What makes Obama’s foreign policy on Taiwan scary is not that it is a Dem foreign policy but that he plans to follow Bush foreign policy, which has basically been to serve China’s interests. As Canadian journalist John Manthorpe put it earlier this year, the Bush Administration “outsourced its Taiwan policy to Beijing.”

Michael Turton
The View From Taiwan blog

You are allowed to link back to your blog, Vorkosigan.

Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, November 12th at 11:21PM EST (link)

Just go to My Profile, click Edit, and put the formatted link in under Signature.

Moe Lane

PS: I’m more of a Simon Illyan type, myself.

LOL

Vorkosigan Wednesday, November 12th at 11:41PM EST (link)

Thanks, I remember that. I identify with the Count rather than Miles; my wife is uber insightful and ruthless too!

Michael

thanks for the interesting backgrounder

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 1:25AM EST (link)

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 
 
 
 

China can take over the world

Menlo (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 2:08AM EST (link)

They don’t need any military to do it. They just need friendly free trade policies.

Pretty soon, nothing in any store will be made, grown, produced, or assembled outside of China. Gradually, more products will start becoming dangerous. They can then kill or disable enough people to take over with ease.

And with Obama’s half-brother in China cranking out this garbage, it looks to be a scary time.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 

What do you mean "now"?

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 13th at 2:36AM EST (link)

Surrender monkeys have been running the State Department since 1992.

The State Department needs to be shut down and rebuilt. Taking a moose hunting club from Alaska to start rebuilding would be the best thing that has happened at State since 1988.

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Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
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