I am now a recovering Romney supporter


I was for Romney in 2008 but didn’t jump on board with Romney this cycle until the field settled completely last month. I figured that Romney was the least bad option in the field and I had hope that he had seriously seen the light.

Since I came fully on board for Romney it has been a death of a thousand cuts. Day after day he gives me reasons to not support him and makes me less and less enthusiastic about his candidacy. Today was the last straw, not being able to firmly stand against Public Employee Unions and on the side of every Kasich on the Ohio referendums is it. I can’t take it anymore. I am off the Romney bandwagon.

The problem is I have nowhere else to go. My requirements in a candidate are not very rigorous. I only have two requirements; be conservative and be able to convincingly articulate conservatism. That’s it. I am confident that as with Reagan in the 1980s, if we have a candidate who can communicate our ideas, independents and Democrats will vote for conservative Republicans in droves and we can begin the process or repairing our economy, our government and our country.

Somehow we are left with a situation where none of the people who can actually fulfill these requirements want to be President. Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal, Tom Coburn, Marco Rubio, etc. Instead we have a field of flawed candidates that leaves me praying for a last minute miracle change of heart by Mitch Daniels’ wife or by Paul Ryan.

Romney’s problems are too numerous to count, but for me it boils down to one thing. Unlike most people, I really do believe he is mostly conservative at heart and not the horrible moderate he is made out to be, but it is plainly clear that enacting conservative policy is less important to him than being elected.  When Romney is on and has the right talking points, he can sell the conservative message as well as almost anyone. I think Romney is the ideal person to oversee and audit of all federal agencies to enact budget cuts, eliminate waste and improve efficiency, thus enacting a small part of my conservative vision for America.

Perry’s biggest problem is that he can’t articulate conservative policy so I don’t even really care how conservative he may or may not be. Also, I don’t believe he is a small government conservative. He is probably a step or two to the right of being a George Bush Republican but I am not even sure about that. Bottom line, because of the liberal media we need a President who can use the bully pulpit to sell conservative economic policy and budget/entitlement reforms. Perry isn’t that guy.

Cain’s biggest problem is that he is not ready to be president. It is clear that Cain never envisioned he would get this far and the policies he has actually proposed are not that well thought out. If I decided to run for president tomorrow I would be more prepared from a policy standpoint than Cain. Also, he is so gaffe prone that even if he did manage to understand all the issues and have associated policy prescriptions, he wouldn’t be able to answer his critics or undecideds. People like him, I am not sure that he can convice them to like his ideas.

Gingrich is a bit of a different story because he fulfills my two requirements, being both articulate and conservative, but he has so much history and so much baggage that I really don’t think he can overcome the late 1990s with most independents. That said, I am half-way reconsidering Gingrich because I wouldn’t be embarrassed to admit I support him (Romney) and I wouldn’t have to explain conservatism to my liberal and moderate friends, Newt would do it for me.

Nobody else in the field is worth talking about.

Maybe the conservative media (Rush, Hannity, Redstate, Malkin, HotAir, etc) could convince Mike Pence to run.



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Well, you have until your state's primary to make up your mind!

Xasteius (Diary) Tuesday, October 25th at 11:27PM EST (link)

Congratulations, and research all the facts!

Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!

The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.

I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.

 

I wish learning more about the candidates would solve my problem

dskinner11 (Diary) Tuesday, October 25th at 11:33PM EST (link)

Unfortunately I have researched them, a lot. I have checked the websites, watched the interviews, debates and interviews and the more I learn the less enthused I become.

It pains me to say that Gingrich may be the best hope we have.

Failing research, try the short straw method.

Xasteius (Diary) Tuesday, October 25th at 11:43PM EST (link)

Again, good luck.

Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!

The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.

I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.

Thanks, it may come to that.

dskinner11 (Diary) Tuesday, October 25th at 11:44PM EST (link)

Luckily, since I am in Missouri I have quite a while to see how this plays out.

Two things, dskinner11.

acat (Diary) Tuesday, October 25th at 11:52PM EST (link)

First, unlike W, Perry’s from Paint Creek, TX, not Midland by way of Kennebunkport and D.C. That isn’t to say Perry’s conservative, but .. his worldview is going to be different, and his actions since emerging from W’s shadow strike me as more pragmatic.

Second, Gingrich’s flaws are somewhat misreported. There were a couple good diaries on the topic last week, perhaps you saw them or could track them down?

It’s not a rosy picture, obviously, but it isn’t as bad as you’re painting either.

Mew

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I did catch those diaries. Thanks

dskinner11 (Diary) Tuesday, October 25th at 11:54PM EST (link)

I suppose that is why I am a little bit hopeful.

None of Gingrich’s baggage bothers me much, not even his special moment on the cough with Pelosi. I just worry independents will be so jaded against him that they won’t listen to his message.

 
 
 

Xasteius: Boy, the short straw method is truly a scientifically

pttx333 (Diary) Tuesday, October 25th at 11:47PM EST (link)

proven method! LOL That is what I used with my two children when they were small; they are way grown now and still laugh and talk about it!

For these guys.. just need 1d6 (one sided die)

acat (Diary) Wednesday, October 26th at 2:04AM EST (link)

1-2 = Cain
3-4 = Gingrich
5-6 = Perry

Roll once and live it it, or roll until you get the one you want.

Mew

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Gingrich

heraklios Tuesday, October 25th at 11:51PM EST (link)

can be a bit windy at times but he actually has a pretty long track record of being a good conservative (most of the time). Newt instantly locks down the 220 or so red state electoral votes and, in my opinion, could compete in the debates and in the swing states. We could do worse.

We definitely could do worse

dskinner11 (Diary) Tuesday, October 25th at 11:58PM EST (link)

I think I am going to fall asleep tonight listening to Winning the Future on my Ipod.

As I said above, Gingrich’s baggage doesn’t bother me nearly as much as his arrogance. I just worry his baggage will prevent him from connecting with independents.

That said, I have confidence he would enact conservative policy and I know he is capable of clearly articulating that message.

 
 
 

Romney's in a tight spot.

jackdaniels11 Wednesday, October 26th at 12:30AM EST (link)

He can back Kasich’s reforms and put his finger in the eye of the unions. Or he can side with the unions, publicly.

His third option is to try and stay neutral. That’s what he’s trying to do with the Ohio union fight and, I think, with the flat tax.

His goal is to ride this thing out and hope that the media doesn’t portray him as being pro-union. He’s not.

Perhaps he feels that Kasich’s reforms go too far. One of the reforms is to prohibit unions from negotiating for health-care benefits. If that reform is successful, the benefit of joining a union will drastically drop. Did Kasich exempt police and fire unions the way Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker did?

The dirty little secret in California politics is that Republicans opposed every union except for the prison guards’ union. Maybe Romney is worried about opposing police and fire unions, which are far more conservative than other unions.

good comment

Ryan Larsen (Diary) Wednesday, October 26th at 5:46AM EST (link)

:)

“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

 

That's not a tight spot at all

dskinner11 (Diary) Wednesday, October 26th at 9:58AM EST (link)

If he can’t easily come down on the side of conservatives, against public employee unions then all hope is lost.

Being against PEUs is easy and I fully believe that Romney is against them. Where is takes leadership and courage is to publicly stand up and fight for conservative beliefs and principles.

Romney is hiding to try and win union votes. That’s not leadership and that’s not conservative.

 
 

dskinner11,

Ryan Larsen (Diary) Wednesday, October 26th at 5:52AM EST (link)

Have you read the bill? Or are you merely assuming it must be perfect on it’s face?

Romney has a law degree, he graduated cum laude from Harvard. He understands that well-intentioned legislation can have unintended consequences when poorly written. That’s why loop-holes exist. Romney has expressed agreement with the values behind the bill. There’s nothing to worry about.

And he explains his decision making process in his book:

“We would add data–a lot of data, so much, in fact, that I wasn’t comfortable until I had been fully immersed in it.”

Don’t read too much into what he said about the Kasich bill.

“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

more

Ryan Larsen (Diary) Wednesday, October 26th at 7:08AM EST (link)

Sarah Palin refused to answer many questions from media on her recent bus tour, and the Tea Party cheered her. The question posed to Romney did not directly relate to any choice he would make as President. But he did indicate support for the principles Kasich is standing for. What Romney actually said: “I am not speaking about the particular ballot issues. Those are up to the people of Ohio. But I certainly support the efforts of the governor to rein in the scale of government. I am not terribly familiar with the two ballot initiatives. But I am certainly supportive of the Republican Party’s efforts here.”

“To be great is to be misunderstood” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

 

Weak suppositions that only satisfy somebody predisposed to Romney

dskinner11 (Diary) Wednesday, October 26th at 9:40AM EST (link)

Kasich is certainly more conservative than Romney so when I don’t have all the details I will side with Kasich and every other conservative in the country. You put up weak hypotheticals about what might be going through Romney’s mind.

If any of the things you said are true I am sure those details would be out there and we wouldn’t have to wait for Romney and his law degree to tell us what the problems are.

Also you neglect to mention the fact that Romney supported this bill 4 months ago. You are either with us or against us. Romney is weak on this because he wants union votes which is the same reason he is so vocal on China. He sees everything through the lens of getting elected first, enacting conservative policy second.

 
 

skinner11

beach91 Wednesday, October 26th at 7:18AM EST (link)

there is no perfect candidate. You have to make up your mind what is the best and most conservative in the field and go with that. People are wanting a ‘Reaganesue’ person but today even Reagan himself would find the same arguments being posted about him..i.e. not conservative enough, squishy on immigration, not a candidate that can really win, etc. One thing I know is that conservatism wins all the time whenever it is put out there and there are only 3 candidates that are really doing that now that are major players in the primaries. They are Perry, Gingrich and Cain in my opinion

 

Perry slams Romney for waffling on Ohio union dispute

izoneguy (Diary) Wednesday, October 26th at 10:17AM EST (link)

Perry slams Romney for waffling on Ohio union dispute

“Americans are tired of politicians who change their beliefs to match public opinion polls,” said Perry spokesman Ray Sullivan. “Mitt Romney needs to realize that when you try to stand on both sides of an issue, you stand for nothing.”

The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.

 

Recommended for the dialogue

Finrod (Diary) Wednesday, October 26th at 4:24PM EST (link)

The only thing I can suggest to you is that you track down and find out what the candidates themselves are saying, not what other people are saying about them. I’ve seen multiple candidates malquoted in order to make it look like they said something they did not say; going straight to the horse’s mouth will help eliminate that.

Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?