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		<title>Gay Liberation Network Boycotts Salvation Army</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The one charity that has the lowest administrative costs (i.e. more of your donation actually gets to the needy) is being boycotted by the Gay Liberation Network. Why? <a href="http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/47007" target="_blank">Because it adheres to its religious beliefs.</a> It stands up for what it believes in.</p>
<p>(Ever notice that folks who admire others who &#8220;stand up for what they believe in&#8221; almost invariably <em>don&#8217;t</em> appreciate it when they don&#8217;t agree with what&#8217;s being stood up for?)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bilerico.com/2011/11/why_you_shouldnt_donate_to_the_salvation_army_bell.php" target="_blank">Bil Browning explains his opposition</a> to the Army this way.</p>
<blockquote><p>As the holidays approach, the Salvation Army bell ringers are out in front of stores dunning shoppers for donations. If you care about gay rights, you&#8217;ll skip their bucket in favor of a charity that doesn&#8217;t actively discriminate against the LGBT community.</p>
<p>The Salvation Army has a history of active discrimination against gays and lesbians. While you might think you&#8217;re helping the hungry and homeless by dropping a few dollars in the bright red buckets, not everyone can share in the donations. Many LGBT people are rejected by the evangelical church charity because they&#8217;re &#8220;sexually impure.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>While the Army, as a church, does indeed believe that homosexuality goes against God&#8217;s plan for us, they most emphatically do <em>not</em> discriminate on who can receive their aid. That charge is entirely false. <em>Everyone</em> can share in the donations.</p>
<p>However, the Army is allowed to decide who <em>represents</em> it to the public. And that&#8217;s where the Army will indeed stand up for what it believes in.</p>
<p>And the GLN is free to start its own charity. Light a candle instead of curse the &#8220;darkness&#8221;, and all that.</p>
<p>In the meantime, consider dropping a little bit more in the kettle this year. And it may not be a bad idea to make that a standard practice. Donations have been going down year-over-year, and which is why the &#8220;kettle season&#8221; has been moved up to a few days before Thanksgiving, rather than the long tradition of the day after it. It&#8217;s a down economy, but especially for the needy.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one charity that has the lowest administrative costs (i.e. more of your donation actually gets to the needy) is being boycotted by the Gay Liberation Network. Why? <a href="http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/archives/47007" target="_blank">Because it adheres to its religious beliefs.</a> It stands up for what it believes in.</p>
<p>(Ever notice that folks who admire others who &#8220;stand up for what they believe in&#8221; almost invariably <em>don&#8217;t</em> appreciate it when they don&#8217;t agree with what&#8217;s being stood up for?)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bilerico.com/2011/11/why_you_shouldnt_donate_to_the_salvation_army_bell.php" target="_blank">Bil Browning explains his opposition</a> to the Army this way.</p>
<blockquote><p>As the holidays approach, the Salvation Army bell ringers are out in front of stores dunning shoppers for donations. If you care about gay rights, you&#8217;ll skip their bucket in favor of a charity that doesn&#8217;t actively discriminate against the LGBT community.</p>
<p>The Salvation Army has a history of active discrimination against gays and lesbians. While you might think you&#8217;re helping the hungry and homeless by dropping a few dollars in the bright red buckets, not everyone can share in the donations. Many LGBT people are rejected by the evangelical church charity because they&#8217;re &#8220;sexually impure.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>While the Army, as a church, does indeed believe that homosexuality goes against God&#8217;s plan for us, they most emphatically do <em>not</em> discriminate on who can receive their aid. That charge is entirely false. <em>Everyone</em> can share in the donations.</p>
<p>However, the Army is allowed to decide who <em>represents</em> it to the public. And that&#8217;s where the Army will indeed stand up for what it believes in.</p>
<p>And the GLN is free to start its own charity. Light a candle instead of curse the &#8220;darkness&#8221;, and all that.</p>
<p>In the meantime, consider dropping a little bit more in the kettle this year. And it may not be a bad idea to make that a standard practice. Donations have been going down year-over-year, and which is why the &#8220;kettle season&#8221; has been moved up to a few days before Thanksgiving, rather than the long tradition of the day after it. It&#8217;s a down economy, but especially for the needy.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Credit Where Credit is Due</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I try to give credit to Ronald Reagan for participating in the fall of the Soviet Union, I often hear that its fall was an inevitability, and it just so happened to occur on Reagan&#8217;s watch. I have to point out to them that Reagan was the first President to come along with an intent to <em>defeat</em> communism, not just <em>contain</em> it. And then to have the Soviet Union defeated &#8220;on his watch&#8221;, with nary a nuke dropped, is one of those &#8220;coincidences&#8221; you don&#8217;t often see in politics; where the effect so closely mirrors the cause.</p>
<p>Interestingly, some of those who say the fall of communism was inevitable weren&#8217;t around when it happened. I was. <a href="http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/58886,Walesa-unveils-one-more-for-the-Gipper" target="_blank">And so was Lech Walesa.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Lech Walesa said that there would not be a free Poland without Ronald Reagan, during the unveiling of a statue in Warsaw of the late American president on Monday.</p>
<p>The former Solidarity leader said that “as a participant in these events,” it was “inconceivable” that such changes would have come about without the last American president during the post-1945 cold-war era.</p>
<p>Walesa added that thirty years ago, it seemed that the fall of the communist system would not be possible without a nuclear war.</p></blockquote>
<p>Reagan stood strongly, and very publicly, with Poland against the Soviets. This was not an appeasing President. The Soviet Union was wrong and evil, and Reagan was not afraid to call it that, to the consternation of so many American liberals. (Just ask if, after Reagan walked out of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reykjav%C3%ADk_Summit" target="_blank">Reykjavik summit</a>, if they thought nuclear war was a distinct possibility.) Lech Walesa agreed, and understood that history could just as easily played out very differently, if Reagan had not believed that victory was possible.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s give credit where credit is due. Poland certainly is.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I try to give credit to Ronald Reagan for participating in the fall of the Soviet Union, I often hear that its fall was an inevitability, and it just so happened to occur on Reagan&#8217;s watch. I have to point out to them that Reagan was the first President to come along with an intent to <em>defeat</em> communism, not just <em>contain</em> it. And then to have the Soviet Union defeated &#8220;on his watch&#8221;, with nary a nuke dropped, is one of those &#8220;coincidences&#8221; you don&#8217;t often see in politics; where the effect so closely mirrors the cause.</p>
<p>Interestingly, some of those who say the fall of communism was inevitable weren&#8217;t around when it happened. I was. <a href="http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/58886,Walesa-unveils-one-more-for-the-Gipper" target="_blank">And so was Lech Walesa.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Lech Walesa said that there would not be a free Poland without Ronald Reagan, during the unveiling of a statue in Warsaw of the late American president on Monday.</p>
<p>The former Solidarity leader said that “as a participant in these events,” it was “inconceivable” that such changes would have come about without the last American president during the post-1945 cold-war era.</p>
<p>Walesa added that thirty years ago, it seemed that the fall of the communist system would not be possible without a nuclear war.</p></blockquote>
<p>Reagan stood strongly, and very publicly, with Poland against the Soviets. This was not an appeasing President. The Soviet Union was wrong and evil, and Reagan was not afraid to call it that, to the consternation of so many American liberals. (Just ask if, after Reagan walked out of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reykjav%C3%ADk_Summit" target="_blank">Reykjavik summit</a>, if they thought nuclear war was a distinct possibility.) Lech Walesa agreed, and understood that history could just as easily played out very differently, if Reagan had not believed that victory was possible.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s give credit where credit is due. Poland certainly is.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>California Cares About Kids, and Other Upside-Down Priorities</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>The state of California takes, out of the hands of minors, some decisions that could have negative repercussions, especially on their health, and gives it to their parents.</p>
<blockquote><p>A California law recently went into effect that bans minors, defined as anyone under the age of 18, from using a tanning bed. The prohibition is absolute and there is no provision for parental permission.</p>
<p>Lawmakers say the tan ban is necessary in order to protect the health and well-being of young people. California is the only state thus far to have a complete ban on tanning for minors. Other states allow the practice with a parent&#8217;s permission.</p>
<p>The Golden State has other laws intended to safeguard the health of young people.</p>
<p>If you are under 18 in California, you are forbidden from getting a tattoo. Like the tan ban, the law is absolute. A minor cannot get inked even with a parent&#8217;s permission.</p>
<p>A person under 18 can get his or her ear or ears pierced; however, piercing any other body part will require a parent&#8217;s approval. A minor is also allowed to take an aspirin at school but only with a parent&#8217;s permission.</p></blockquote>
<p>But there is one decision that the state does give to minors, even without parental permission. You can&#8217;t get an aspirin without permission, but you can <a href="http://www.bpnews.net/BPFirstPerson.asp?ID=36348" target="_blank">kill your child</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>California allows a girl under the age of 18 to obtain an abortion without her parents&#8217; permission &#8212; and without even notifying them. Additionally, the facility that provides the abortion is forbidden by law from informing the parents about the abortion.</p>
<p>It should be noted that California voters have repeatedly rejected ballot initiatives that would have required parental notification for a minor seeking an abortion.</p>
<p>A 14-year-old girl can obtain an abortion in California and her parents have absolutely no knowledge of the situation &#8212; and Californians believe it is acceptable.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, by &#8220;the state of California&#8221;, I mean, not just the government, but the people in general. It&#8217;s not just the state government that has its priorities inverted; it&#8217;s the liberals out there. Absolutely no consistency.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state of California takes, out of the hands of minors, some decisions that could have negative repercussions, especially on their health, and gives it to their parents.</p>
<blockquote><p>A California law recently went into effect that bans minors, defined as anyone under the age of 18, from using a tanning bed. The prohibition is absolute and there is no provision for parental permission.</p>
<p>Lawmakers say the tan ban is necessary in order to protect the health and well-being of young people. California is the only state thus far to have a complete ban on tanning for minors. Other states allow the practice with a parent&#8217;s permission.</p>
<p>The Golden State has other laws intended to safeguard the health of young people.</p>
<p>If you are under 18 in California, you are forbidden from getting a tattoo. Like the tan ban, the law is absolute. A minor cannot get inked even with a parent&#8217;s permission.</p>
<p>A person under 18 can get his or her ear or ears pierced; however, piercing any other body part will require a parent&#8217;s approval. A minor is also allowed to take an aspirin at school but only with a parent&#8217;s permission.</p></blockquote>
<p>But there is one decision that the state does give to minors, even without parental permission. You can&#8217;t get an aspirin without permission, but you can <a href="http://www.bpnews.net/BPFirstPerson.asp?ID=36348" target="_blank">kill your child</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>California allows a girl under the age of 18 to obtain an abortion without her parents&#8217; permission &#8212; and without even notifying them. Additionally, the facility that provides the abortion is forbidden by law from informing the parents about the abortion.</p>
<p>It should be noted that California voters have repeatedly rejected ballot initiatives that would have required parental notification for a minor seeking an abortion.</p>
<p>A 14-year-old girl can obtain an abortion in California and her parents have absolutely no knowledge of the situation &#8212; and Californians believe it is acceptable.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, by &#8220;the state of California&#8221;, I mean, not just the government, but the people in general. It&#8217;s not just the state government that has its priorities inverted; it&#8217;s the liberals out there. Absolutely no consistency.</p>
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		<title>Government? Corporations? Something Else? Is OWS Aiming At the Right Target?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I participated in a <a href="http://howconservativesdrovemeaway.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-vs-tea-party.html" target="_blank">comment thread to a blog post</a> suggesting that the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protestors ought to come together and find common ground. It incorporated a Venn diagram of what the two groups think are the source of the problem and the intersection was what they could agree on.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the diagram is just too simplistic. It equates corporate power with government post, which ignores the fact that much of the power corporations has <em>comes from</em> the government, because the government is susceptible to corruption. Because that&#8217;s true, the protest ought to be Occupy Pennsylvania Avenue. Trying to explain that to folks who agree with OWS was an exercise in futility. While buying power is wrong, selling it is worse, and is in fact the root cause of the problem.</p>
<p>One of the commenters, waynefromnaz, who understood this concept, put together a video showing the problem with the Venn diagram, and introducing one of his own that explains the real problem in a much better way. He highlights the fact that corporations aren&#8217;t the only ones who buy power, and thus the problem isn&#8217;t just that this or that group can buy it, but the main problem is that <em>anyone</em> can buy it, and thus we should go after the group selling it (i.e. government).</p>
<p>Additionally, this exposes the political motivation behind OWS. Why aren&#8217;t they protesting the unions that buy power and get special favors? Noticeably absent from the list of those being protested against are typical Democrat supporters. No, they&#8217;re concentrating on groups that many consider Republican constituencies. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s by accident.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsn3uzydr8k">Here, then, is the video</a>, showing what the real problem is. (Click the link if embedding has failed.)</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I participated in a <a href="http://howconservativesdrovemeaway.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-vs-tea-party.html" target="_blank">comment thread to a blog post</a> suggesting that the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street protestors ought to come together and find common ground. It incorporated a Venn diagram of what the two groups think are the source of the problem and the intersection was what they could agree on.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the diagram is just too simplistic. It equates corporate power with government post, which ignores the fact that much of the power corporations has <em>comes from</em> the government, because the government is susceptible to corruption. Because that&#8217;s true, the protest ought to be Occupy Pennsylvania Avenue. Trying to explain that to folks who agree with OWS was an exercise in futility. While buying power is wrong, selling it is worse, and is in fact the root cause of the problem.</p>
<p>One of the commenters, waynefromnaz, who understood this concept, put together a video showing the problem with the Venn diagram, and introducing one of his own that explains the real problem in a much better way. He highlights the fact that corporations aren&#8217;t the only ones who buy power, and thus the problem isn&#8217;t just that this or that group can buy it, but the main problem is that <em>anyone</em> can buy it, and thus we should go after the group selling it (i.e. government).</p>
<p>Additionally, this exposes the political motivation behind OWS. Why aren&#8217;t they protesting the unions that buy power and get special favors? Noticeably absent from the list of those being protested against are typical Democrat supporters. No, they&#8217;re concentrating on groups that many consider Republican constituencies. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s by accident.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsn3uzydr8k">Here, then, is the video</a>, showing what the real problem is. (Click the link if embedding has failed.)</p>
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		<title>Thou Shalt Not Covet the 1%&#8217;s House</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020:17&#38;version=NIV1984" target="_blank">One of God&#8217;s top 10.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Contrary to what some think, coveting is not just <em>wanting</em> something. Coveting is wanting something <em>that belongs to someone else</em>. God made it pretty clear about not coveting that which is your neighbor&#8217;s. (And of course, Jesus explained to us that our neighbor is essentially anyone else.)</p>
<p>But right now, in cities and countries all over, there are protests going on, getting rave reviews from liberals and the media, where the key ingredient is precisely this; covetousness. Much of what you hear from videos and <a href="http://occupywallst.org/" target="_blank">their own website</a>, even the whole 99% thing, is out of a want, not for money, but for the money of the &#8220;1%&#8221;. (But, because these things would be paid for by taxes, they&#8217;re really aiming for the wealth of <a href="http://brooksbayne.com/post/11267397373/a-chart-i-created-as-a-newsflash-for-the-occupy" target="_blank">the 53%</a>.)</p>
<p>&#8220;You, cancel my loans!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You, pay me even when I&#8217;m not working!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You, finance my healthcare!&#8221;</p>
<p>And the target of their protests must pony up the cash. No, not &#8220;the 1%&#8221;, but the 53%, and their children. These protestors want their money; no their own. That is not at all to say that cancelling loans, unemployment benefits or subsidized healthcare are, in and of themselves, a bad thing in moderation, and when circumstances may warrant. But the method these &#8220;99%&#8221; suggest &#8212; more power to a government <a href="http://www.qando.net/?p=11754" target="_blank">that got us into this situation in the first place</a> &#8212; is both ironic and sad at the same time because they propose we keep digging the hole we&#8217;re in rather than get out of it.</p>
<p>(And, by the way, the folks who say they are 99% of the country? <a href="http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2011/10/11/memo-to-occupywallstreet-you-are-not-the-99-percent-you-are-the-anti-war-left-co-opted-by-obama/" target="_blank">Not so much.</a>)</p>
<p>We have some modicum of socialism in this country already &#8212; Social Security, Medicare, for examples &#8212; but these programs are going bankrupt. <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/05/news/economy/social_security_trustees_report/index.htm" target="_blank">Social Security is now paying out more than it is taking in</a>, and has been for a year now, because the socialized method used to pay for it couldn&#8217;t handle a Baby Boom. And yet these folks want the 1%/53% to finance yet another iteration of this.</p>
<p>The blame is misplaced, and the solution follows the direction of failed policies. So what&#8217;s a country to do?</p>
<p>Brett McCracken writing at his blog The Search <a href="http://stillsearching.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/we-have-to-occupy-something/" target="_blank">sums things up well</a>, both the issues and the solution.</p>
<blockquote><p>As a “movement,” Occupy Wall Street doesn’t reveal an organized grassroots agenda as much as it represents a general climate of anger, frustration, and antagonism against the “haves”–a suspiciously narrow (1%), heartless, no good very bad group whose entrepreneurial success and capitalistic success apparently oppress the 99% of us have-nots who are being unfairly kept from sharing in the 1 percent’s riches.</p>
<p>Mostly, though, Occupy Wall Street represents the natural discontent of an entitled generation raised on the notion that we deserve things, that the government owes us something, that everything we want should be accessible, and that somehow we are not responsible if we don’t end up quite as successful in life as we’d hoped. It’s a blame-shifting problem. It’s an inability to delay gratification or go without that which we believe is our right or destiny. And it’s a problem both on the micro/individual and macro/government level.</p></blockquote>
<p>McCracken suggests that the blame is one that we <em>all</em> share, not just some tiny slice of us, from whom we need to extract our pound of flesh.</p>
<blockquote><p>The thing is, “sharing blame” is hard for us humans to do. We’re infinitely averse to admitting our own culpability. In almost anything. Whether it be our own financial hardships, or those of our communities, or the high taxes under which we suffer… We have to lash out against someone. We have to go occupy something.</p>
<p>As Christians, though, I think we must first and foremost look within for the blame. We must own our share in the mess. Beyond institutions and hegemonies and Wall Street tycoons, how are <em>we</em> responsible for the trouble we’re in? True revolution begins here. True change begins with what we can actually control: our own lives, an awareness of our weaknesses and potentials, and a commitment to working to improve.</p>
<p>If we have to occupy something, let it be the dominion of our own culpable Self, the guiltiest of all institutions and the one we are likeliest to spur toward positive change.</p></blockquote>
<p>I dare say that should this particular philosophy suddenly grip the Occupy Wall Street crowd, things might disperse rather quickly. Is there injustice in America? Yes, there is. But Jesus didn&#8217;t storm the house of Zacchaeus, among the &#8220;1%&#8221; of his day. Jesus didn&#8217;t complain that the government in Rome was unfair and make demands of it. He spoke truths to <em>individuals</em>, even the 1%ers. He changed hearts, which <em>then</em> changed the culture. Let&#8217;s follow that example instead.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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<blockquote><p>“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Contrary to what some think, coveting is not just <em>wanting</em> something. Coveting is wanting something <em>that belongs to someone else</em>. God made it pretty clear about not coveting that which is your neighbor&#8217;s. (And of course, Jesus explained to us that our neighbor is essentially anyone else.)</p>
<p>But right now, in cities and countries all over, there are protests going on, getting rave reviews from liberals and the media, where the key ingredient is precisely this; covetousness. Much of what you hear from videos and <a href="http://occupywallst.org/" target="_blank">their own website</a>, even the whole 99% thing, is out of a want, not for money, but for the money of the &#8220;1%&#8221;. (But, because these things would be paid for by taxes, they&#8217;re really aiming for the wealth of <a href="http://brooksbayne.com/post/11267397373/a-chart-i-created-as-a-newsflash-for-the-occupy" target="_blank">the 53%</a>.)</p>
<p>&#8220;You, cancel my loans!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You, pay me even when I&#8217;m not working!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You, finance my healthcare!&#8221;</p>
<p>And the target of their protests must pony up the cash. No, not &#8220;the 1%&#8221;, but the 53%, and their children. These protestors want their money; no their own. That is not at all to say that cancelling loans, unemployment benefits or subsidized healthcare are, in and of themselves, a bad thing in moderation, and when circumstances may warrant. But the method these &#8220;99%&#8221; suggest &#8212; more power to a government <a href="http://www.qando.net/?p=11754" target="_blank">that got us into this situation in the first place</a> &#8212; is both ironic and sad at the same time because they propose we keep digging the hole we&#8217;re in rather than get out of it.</p>
<p>(And, by the way, the folks who say they are 99% of the country? <a href="http://biggovernment.com/jpollak/2011/10/11/memo-to-occupywallstreet-you-are-not-the-99-percent-you-are-the-anti-war-left-co-opted-by-obama/" target="_blank">Not so much.</a>)</p>
<p>We have some modicum of socialism in this country already &#8212; Social Security, Medicare, for examples &#8212; but these programs are going bankrupt. <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/05/news/economy/social_security_trustees_report/index.htm" target="_blank">Social Security is now paying out more than it is taking in</a>, and has been for a year now, because the socialized method used to pay for it couldn&#8217;t handle a Baby Boom. And yet these folks want the 1%/53% to finance yet another iteration of this.</p>
<p>The blame is misplaced, and the solution follows the direction of failed policies. So what&#8217;s a country to do?</p>
<p>Brett McCracken writing at his blog The Search <a href="http://stillsearching.wordpress.com/2011/10/12/we-have-to-occupy-something/" target="_blank">sums things up well</a>, both the issues and the solution.</p>
<blockquote><p>As a “movement,” Occupy Wall Street doesn’t reveal an organized grassroots agenda as much as it represents a general climate of anger, frustration, and antagonism against the “haves”–a suspiciously narrow (1%), heartless, no good very bad group whose entrepreneurial success and capitalistic success apparently oppress the 99% of us have-nots who are being unfairly kept from sharing in the 1 percent’s riches.</p>
<p>Mostly, though, Occupy Wall Street represents the natural discontent of an entitled generation raised on the notion that we deserve things, that the government owes us something, that everything we want should be accessible, and that somehow we are not responsible if we don’t end up quite as successful in life as we’d hoped. It’s a blame-shifting problem. It’s an inability to delay gratification or go without that which we believe is our right or destiny. And it’s a problem both on the micro/individual and macro/government level.</p></blockquote>
<p>McCracken suggests that the blame is one that we <em>all</em> share, not just some tiny slice of us, from whom we need to extract our pound of flesh.</p>
<blockquote><p>The thing is, “sharing blame” is hard for us humans to do. We’re infinitely averse to admitting our own culpability. In almost anything. Whether it be our own financial hardships, or those of our communities, or the high taxes under which we suffer… We have to lash out against someone. We have to go occupy something.</p>
<p>As Christians, though, I think we must first and foremost look within for the blame. We must own our share in the mess. Beyond institutions and hegemonies and Wall Street tycoons, how are <em>we</em> responsible for the trouble we’re in? True revolution begins here. True change begins with what we can actually control: our own lives, an awareness of our weaknesses and potentials, and a commitment to working to improve.</p>
<p>If we have to occupy something, let it be the dominion of our own culpable Self, the guiltiest of all institutions and the one we are likeliest to spur toward positive change.</p></blockquote>
<p>I dare say that should this particular philosophy suddenly grip the Occupy Wall Street crowd, things might disperse rather quickly. Is there injustice in America? Yes, there is. But Jesus didn&#8217;t storm the house of Zacchaeus, among the &#8220;1%&#8221; of his day. Jesus didn&#8217;t complain that the government in Rome was unfair and make demands of it. He spoke truths to <em>individuals</em>, even the 1%ers. He changed hearts, which <em>then</em> changed the culture. Let&#8217;s follow that example instead.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>When Does Human Life Begin and the Political Implications</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I came across this article yesterday on the Science 2.0 website, with a very  honest title; <a href="http://www.science20.com/confessions_stem_cell_scientist/blog/i_confess_i_dont_know_when_human_life_begins-80756" target="_blank">&#8220;I confess: I don&#8217;t know when human life begins&#8221;</a>. Paul  Knoepfler, <a href="http://www.science20.com/profile/paul_knoepfler" target="_blank">Associate Professor of Cell Biology and Human Anatomy at UC Davis  School of Medicine</a>, walks through all the stages of gestation and does,  however, come up with his reasons for when life <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> begin. Before  that, though, he goes through a list of three main authorities on when it  begins; those with moral authority, doctors, and scientists. He argues that none  of these folks have &#8220;the answer&#8221; that applies to everyone, but that seems to  suggest that <em>we</em> get to define when life begins rather than life  defining itself.</p>
<p>Religious commandments or cultural norms really don&#8217;t determine when life  begins; they only generalize about when people should <em>treat</em> life as  having begun. (He touches on that <a href="http://www.ipscell.com/2010/12/scientific-proof-for-the-dc-court-of-appeals-that-life-begins-at-conception-not-by-a-long-shot/" target="_blank">on his own blog</a>.) That is not the same question as when life  truly begins, but lacking that knowledge, we do need some sort of dividing line.  He argues that science really doesn&#8217;t, and perhaps can&#8217;t, answer that question.  At this point in our scientific knowledge, I tend to agree, especially since the  question of what &#8220;life&#8221; actually is is still quite a mystery. Hence, we can  only, at this point, decide when to treat life as having begun. Those  aforementioned commandments and norms were instituted long before we knew what  we now know about what&#8217;s going on in the reproductive cycle, and our new  knowledge should inform our decisions, should it not?</p>
<p>In 1998 I wrote an essay, <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/onequestion.html" target="_blank">&#8220;Just One  Question&#8221;</a>, which gave my take on the topic, especially as it related to  abortion. My personal opinion in that was that life begins at conception, and I  set out my arguments for it. (This was the culmination of a debate, 5 years  earlier, on a local computer bulletin board system; the internet before there  was The Internet.) Some of my points here will come from that.</p>
<p>Knoepfler talks about 6 main possibilities when when life might start: &#8220;(1),  before conception (yes, you read that right), (2) at conception, (3) at  implantation, (4) when distinctively human, organized brain activity begins, (5)  when the fetus can survive outside the womb, and (6) at birth. &#8221;</p>
<p>Option 1 refers to <em>parthenogenesis</em>; an egg dividing and growing on  its own. This happens in other life forms, but does not naturally occur in  humans. Therefore, since we&#8217;re questioning specifically human life, I don&#8217;t  think this plays a part.</p>
<p>Option 2 is conception, where I come down on the issue. Knoepfler agrees that  it is a nice, clear dividing line, and a step that must be taken before anything  else can. But then he gets lost in his own analogy against this.</p>
<blockquote><p>However, the case against conception is that a fertilized human egg is not by  any stretch of the imagination an actual human being, at least not in my  opinion.  The fertilized egg, also known as a zygote, has the potential to make  a human being, but often it does not. From my perspective, which of course may  be wrong, a fertilized egg is very much like a seed. I really like this  analogy.  Let&#8217;s run with it.</p>
<p>OK, picture this in your mind&#8211;a small Sequoia seed that just fell out of a  cone onto the forest floor in Yosemite. See it? That seed is not the same thing  as a 2,000 year old Sequoia Tree, right?</p>
<p>Even if that seed has the potential to become that tree over a period of  thousands of years by growing trillions of times in mass and developing leaves  and other specialized structures, it does not mean that that seed  <strong>is</strong> a tree.</p></blockquote>
<p>As much as he really likes it, this is a bad analogy. No, the seed is not a  tree any more than a zygote is an adult human being. However, both the seed and  the tree are Sequoias &#8212; the same species &#8212; and both the zygote and the adult  are human. He then makes his major point against conception as the dividing line  using this bad analogy as the backdrop.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Key idea: Potential does not mean equality.</strong> A seed can  become a tree, but a seed is not a tree. They are different. A fertilized human  egg can become a human being, but that potential does not equate the fertilized  egg with a human being. It has to survive, implant, grow trillions of times in  mass, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>A fertilized <em>human </em>egg (his phrase) is <em>already  human</em>. It is not a <em>potential human</em>. It is, however, a potential  <em>adult</em>, and lots of things have to happen to realize that potential. But  then, a lot of things have to happen for a 1-day-old baby to reach that  potential as well, yet we still consider the baby a human life.</p>
<p>Conception is a clear dividing line. Before that point we have an  egg and a sperm that, if properly cared for and nurtured, die in hours or days.  After that point we have a fertilized egg that, if properly cared for and  nurtured, can become an Associate Professor of Cell Biology and Human Anatomy at  UC Davis School of Medicine.</p>
<p>Option 3, implantation, is a necessary step in the gestation  cycle, but this is simply a change of location with access to nutrition. The  cells have already been dividing and this just gives them the ability to divide  faster. There is no clear dividing line regarding development.</p>
<p>Option 4, fetal brain activity, is another nebulous stage, and  Knoepfler is unimpressed with it, as am I. He comes up with an argument against  it that I was unaware of. Random electrical activity occurs quite early in the  gestation, but nothing (that he&#8217;s seen) related to thought. A dish of human  neurons can do that by themselves.</p>
<p>Option 5, when a fetus can survive outside the womb, is also a  poor choice. Knoepfler notes that this is different for different fetuses, and I  would add that it&#8217;s different based on what century you live in. Medical science  keeps advancing and making once unviable babies healthy human adults. Still,  viability is, in general, a made-up construct to muddy the waters. As I said in  my essay:</p>
<blockquote><p>The issue of viability, when looked at through the lens of this  single important abortion question [is it a human life?], is revealed to be  nothing but an artificial smoke screen used to make a black and white issue look  gray. Something that is &#8220;viable&#8221; is simply something that can live. In most  dictionaries, the additional requirement of living without artificial support is  added only as a special instance for fetuses; a special instance that is  obviously there solely due to the abortion situation. For <em>every</em> other use  of the word, it simply means something that is able to live (a viable company, a  viable candidate, etc.). Consider how viable would those researchers on the  Antarctic continent be if not for <em>their</em> artificial support (heaters,  shelter, etc.)? If something dies when you take it out of it’s natural habitat  and place it in a hostile environment, that does not make it non-viable.</p></blockquote>
<p>And finally option 6, birth, while a well-defined event, really is  mostly a change of location rather than anything physically different in the  baby. (I say this with regards to the question of life only. The birth, to the  parents especially, is far, far more than just a change of location of the baby,  speaking as one with 4 children.)</p>
<p>Of all these options, there is really only one that is a clear  dividing line creating a fundamental change; conception. If &#8220;life&#8221; doesn&#8217;t  really start at that point, then it is at least the point at which a significant  corner is turned. Our knowledge of what life actually is may continue to grow,  but at this point in time, with what we do know, conception is the unique, best  option.</p>
<p>The application of this, of course, is partly political. Knoepfler  ends with, &#8220;I personally think that everyone has to decide this question, one of  the most important we can ponder, for themselves.&#8221; The problem with hand-waving  away any potential issues associated with it as he does, is that groups like  Planned Parenthood make millions convincing women that their babies  <em>aren&#8217;t</em> life. The possibility that PP is killing human life is worth  more than a bland, &#8220;Well, decide for yourself.&#8221; It&#8217;s a literal case of life and  death. The problem is, groups like PP and their allies in government and science  have introduce viability as some sort of actual distinction. Based on  Knoepfler&#8217;s <a href="http://www.ipscell.com/2011/05/when-does-life-begin-our-poll-results/" target="_blank">poll on the subject</a>, it&#8217;s worked too well, unfortunately.</p>
<p>There are consequences &#8212; major consequences &#8212; to the answer to  this question, and it should be a concern of science and government. As a  culture, we need to wrestle with this question, but not eternally. We need to  determine our collective answer to it at the present time, but be open to new  knowledge in the future that changes it. For now, the dividing line is clear,  but Big Abortion (if I may call it that) has a vested, monetary interest in  keeping it blurry. This should not be the case where life itself is at  stake.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this article yesterday on the Science 2.0 website, with a very  honest title; <a href="http://www.science20.com/confessions_stem_cell_scientist/blog/i_confess_i_dont_know_when_human_life_begins-80756" target="_blank">&#8220;I confess: I don&#8217;t know when human life begins&#8221;</a>. Paul  Knoepfler, <a href="http://www.science20.com/profile/paul_knoepfler" target="_blank">Associate Professor of Cell Biology and Human Anatomy at UC Davis  School of Medicine</a>, walks through all the stages of gestation and does,  however, come up with his reasons for when life <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> begin. Before  that, though, he goes through a list of three main authorities on when it  begins; those with moral authority, doctors, and scientists. He argues that none  of these folks have &#8220;the answer&#8221; that applies to everyone, but that seems to  suggest that <em>we</em> get to define when life begins rather than life  defining itself.</p>
<p>Religious commandments or cultural norms really don&#8217;t determine when life  begins; they only generalize about when people should <em>treat</em> life as  having begun. (He touches on that <a href="http://www.ipscell.com/2010/12/scientific-proof-for-the-dc-court-of-appeals-that-life-begins-at-conception-not-by-a-long-shot/" target="_blank">on his own blog</a>.) That is not the same question as when life  truly begins, but lacking that knowledge, we do need some sort of dividing line.  He argues that science really doesn&#8217;t, and perhaps can&#8217;t, answer that question.  At this point in our scientific knowledge, I tend to agree, especially since the  question of what &#8220;life&#8221; actually is is still quite a mystery. Hence, we can  only, at this point, decide when to treat life as having begun. Those  aforementioned commandments and norms were instituted long before we knew what  we now know about what&#8217;s going on in the reproductive cycle, and our new  knowledge should inform our decisions, should it not?</p>
<p>In 1998 I wrote an essay, <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/onequestion.html" target="_blank">&#8220;Just One  Question&#8221;</a>, which gave my take on the topic, especially as it related to  abortion. My personal opinion in that was that life begins at conception, and I  set out my arguments for it. (This was the culmination of a debate, 5 years  earlier, on a local computer bulletin board system; the internet before there  was The Internet.) Some of my points here will come from that.</p>
<p>Knoepfler talks about 6 main possibilities when when life might start: &#8220;(1),  before conception (yes, you read that right), (2) at conception, (3) at  implantation, (4) when distinctively human, organized brain activity begins, (5)  when the fetus can survive outside the womb, and (6) at birth. &#8221;</p>
<p>Option 1 refers to <em>parthenogenesis</em>; an egg dividing and growing on  its own. This happens in other life forms, but does not naturally occur in  humans. Therefore, since we&#8217;re questioning specifically human life, I don&#8217;t  think this plays a part.</p>
<p>Option 2 is conception, where I come down on the issue. Knoepfler agrees that  it is a nice, clear dividing line, and a step that must be taken before anything  else can. But then he gets lost in his own analogy against this.</p>
<blockquote><p>However, the case against conception is that a fertilized human egg is not by  any stretch of the imagination an actual human being, at least not in my  opinion.  The fertilized egg, also known as a zygote, has the potential to make  a human being, but often it does not. From my perspective, which of course may  be wrong, a fertilized egg is very much like a seed. I really like this  analogy.  Let&#8217;s run with it.</p>
<p>OK, picture this in your mind&#8211;a small Sequoia seed that just fell out of a  cone onto the forest floor in Yosemite. See it? That seed is not the same thing  as a 2,000 year old Sequoia Tree, right?</p>
<p>Even if that seed has the potential to become that tree over a period of  thousands of years by growing trillions of times in mass and developing leaves  and other specialized structures, it does not mean that that seed  <strong>is</strong> a tree.</p></blockquote>
<p>As much as he really likes it, this is a bad analogy. No, the seed is not a  tree any more than a zygote is an adult human being. However, both the seed and  the tree are Sequoias &#8212; the same species &#8212; and both the zygote and the adult  are human. He then makes his major point against conception as the dividing line  using this bad analogy as the backdrop.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Key idea: Potential does not mean equality.</strong> A seed can  become a tree, but a seed is not a tree. They are different. A fertilized human  egg can become a human being, but that potential does not equate the fertilized  egg with a human being. It has to survive, implant, grow trillions of times in  mass, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>A fertilized <em>human </em>egg (his phrase) is <em>already  human</em>. It is not a <em>potential human</em>. It is, however, a potential  <em>adult</em>, and lots of things have to happen to realize that potential. But  then, a lot of things have to happen for a 1-day-old baby to reach that  potential as well, yet we still consider the baby a human life.</p>
<p>Conception is a clear dividing line. Before that point we have an  egg and a sperm that, if properly cared for and nurtured, die in hours or days.  After that point we have a fertilized egg that, if properly cared for and  nurtured, can become an Associate Professor of Cell Biology and Human Anatomy at  UC Davis School of Medicine.</p>
<p>Option 3, implantation, is a necessary step in the gestation  cycle, but this is simply a change of location with access to nutrition. The  cells have already been dividing and this just gives them the ability to divide  faster. There is no clear dividing line regarding development.</p>
<p>Option 4, fetal brain activity, is another nebulous stage, and  Knoepfler is unimpressed with it, as am I. He comes up with an argument against  it that I was unaware of. Random electrical activity occurs quite early in the  gestation, but nothing (that he&#8217;s seen) related to thought. A dish of human  neurons can do that by themselves.</p>
<p>Option 5, when a fetus can survive outside the womb, is also a  poor choice. Knoepfler notes that this is different for different fetuses, and I  would add that it&#8217;s different based on what century you live in. Medical science  keeps advancing and making once unviable babies healthy human adults. Still,  viability is, in general, a made-up construct to muddy the waters. As I said in  my essay:</p>
<blockquote><p>The issue of viability, when looked at through the lens of this  single important abortion question [is it a human life?], is revealed to be  nothing but an artificial smoke screen used to make a black and white issue look  gray. Something that is &#8220;viable&#8221; is simply something that can live. In most  dictionaries, the additional requirement of living without artificial support is  added only as a special instance for fetuses; a special instance that is  obviously there solely due to the abortion situation. For <em>every</em> other use  of the word, it simply means something that is able to live (a viable company, a  viable candidate, etc.). Consider how viable would those researchers on the  Antarctic continent be if not for <em>their</em> artificial support (heaters,  shelter, etc.)? If something dies when you take it out of it’s natural habitat  and place it in a hostile environment, that does not make it non-viable.</p></blockquote>
<p>And finally option 6, birth, while a well-defined event, really is  mostly a change of location rather than anything physically different in the  baby. (I say this with regards to the question of life only. The birth, to the  parents especially, is far, far more than just a change of location of the baby,  speaking as one with 4 children.)</p>
<p>Of all these options, there is really only one that is a clear  dividing line creating a fundamental change; conception. If &#8220;life&#8221; doesn&#8217;t  really start at that point, then it is at least the point at which a significant  corner is turned. Our knowledge of what life actually is may continue to grow,  but at this point in time, with what we do know, conception is the unique, best  option.</p>
<p>The application of this, of course, is partly political. Knoepfler  ends with, &#8220;I personally think that everyone has to decide this question, one of  the most important we can ponder, for themselves.&#8221; The problem with hand-waving  away any potential issues associated with it as he does, is that groups like  Planned Parenthood make millions convincing women that their babies  <em>aren&#8217;t</em> life. The possibility that PP is killing human life is worth  more than a bland, &#8220;Well, decide for yourself.&#8221; It&#8217;s a literal case of life and  death. The problem is, groups like PP and their allies in government and science  have introduce viability as some sort of actual distinction. Based on  Knoepfler&#8217;s <a href="http://www.ipscell.com/2011/05/when-does-life-begin-our-poll-results/" target="_blank">poll on the subject</a>, it&#8217;s worked too well, unfortunately.</p>
<p>There are consequences &#8212; major consequences &#8212; to the answer to  this question, and it should be a concern of science and government. As a  culture, we need to wrestle with this question, but not eternally. We need to  determine our collective answer to it at the present time, but be open to new  knowledge in the future that changes it. For now, the dividing line is clear,  but Big Abortion (if I may call it that) has a vested, monetary interest in  keeping it blurry. This should not be the case where life itself is at  stake.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Christians Now Considered Unfit For Foster Parenting</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><em>From the diaries by Jeff</em></p>
<p>Citing your values to overturn your values; that&#8217;s precisely what a court in  the UK has done. They&#8217;ve cited the values that the country was founded on &#8212;  Judeo-Christian ones &#8212; <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/8353496/Foster-parent-ban-no-place-in-the-law-for-Christianity-High-Court-rules.html" target="_blank">to rule against holding to those values</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>There is no place in British law for Christian beliefs, despite this  country’s long history of religious observance and the traditions of the  established Church, two High Court judges said on Monday.</p>
<p>Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson made the remarks when ruling on the  case of a Christian couple who were told that they could not be foster carers  because of their view that homosexuality is wrong.</p>
<p>The judges underlined that, in the case of fostering arrangements at least,  the right of homosexuals to equality “should take precedence” over the right of  Christians to manifest their beliefs and moral values.</p>
<p>In a ruling with potentially wide-ranging implications, the judges said  Britain was a “largely secular”, multi-cultural country in which the laws of the  realm “do not include Christianity”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is Britain&#8217;s government &#8220;largely secular&#8221;? Yes, it is, as are all Western  democracies. Our own founding fathers in the US did not set up a theocracy. But  this by no means suggests that the government should take no position that  happens to coincide with a religious view. Laws in our country against murder,  theft and extortion are rooted in Christian morality; the Biblical ideas of the  intrinsic value of each human being, and the values of justice and fairness.  Further, we have death penalties, when we do have them, for only the worst  offenders, and for the same reasons.</p>
<p><span id="more-68"></span>While other countries may have similar laws, this is more than a law issue.  Our culture itself was shaped by these same Judeo-Christian values. I&#8217;ll make  the obligatory disclaimer that it has been implemented by fallible human beings,  and it&#8217;s not always been in a manner consistent with itself. Still, this  foundation has produced the freest, wealthiest, healthiest and, yes, most  tolerant countries in history. Millions of immigrants and refugees are trying to  get into Western democracies all the time because of the results of holding to  those values.</p>
<p>In fact, the judges unwittingly note this foundation in their ruling.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Although historically this country is part of the Christian West, and  although it has an established church which is Christian, there have been  enormous changes in the social and religious life of our country over the last  century,” they said.</p>
<p>It was a “paradox” that society has become simultaneously both increasingly  secular and increasingly diverse in religious affiliation, they said.</p>
<p>“We sit as secular judges serving a multicultural community of many faiths.  We are sworn (we quote the judicial oath) to &#8216;do right to all manner of people  after the laws and usages of this realm, without fear or favour, affection or  ill will’.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The irony is clear. These judges are citing an oath, that has been proscribed  by the government influenced by the Judeo-Christian culture, to rule against  people exercising their Judeo-Christian beliefs. You won&#8217;t find an oath like  this in countries where you can be persecuted for believing the &#8220;wrong&#8221;  religion. This value of fairness to all, regardless of who they are, is thanks  to, for the most part, the Biblical beliefs of the Johns family, the ones trying  to become foster parents.</p>
<p>Is it, therefore, &#8220;fair&#8221; to only allow people with the right beliefs and  religious affiliation, approved by the government, to become foster parents?  Will the court make the same ruling for Muslims and Jews who feel the same way?  Apparently, society&#8217;s shifting standards win out over a basic, fundamental right  of freedom of religion.</p>
<blockquote><p>However, when fostering regulations were taken into account, “the equality  provisions concerning sexual orientation should take precedence” over religious  rights, they said.</p></blockquote>
<p>And thus, the more homosexuals, or any group with a protected status, can  convince governments that they must have special rights to override basic human  rights, the more the foundation is chipped away; the very foundation that made  this society what it is today, with our without an established Church.</p>
<p>Some Anglican church officials say essentially the same thing.</p>
<blockquote><p>Speaking personally, Canon Dr Chris Sugden, the executive secretary of  Anglican Mainstream, said the judges were wrong to say religion was a matter of  private individuals’ beliefs.</p>
<p>“They are treating religion like Richard Dawkins does, as if Christian faith  was on a parallel with Melanesian frog worship,” he said.</p>
<p>“The judgment asserts that there is no hierarchy of rights, but itself  implies there is one in which the right to practise one’s religion is  subordinated to the secular assumptions about equality.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Gays use to say that they didn&#8217;t want <em>special</em> rights, just  <em>equal</em> rights. This is another example of <em>special</em> rights that  cut to the very core of the free societies they live in. This is a huge step in  the wrong direction.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>From the diaries by Jeff</em></p>
<p>Citing your values to overturn your values; that&#8217;s precisely what a court in  the UK has done. They&#8217;ve cited the values that the country was founded on &#8212;  Judeo-Christian ones &#8212; <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/8353496/Foster-parent-ban-no-place-in-the-law-for-Christianity-High-Court-rules.html" target="_blank">to rule against holding to those values</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>There is no place in British law for Christian beliefs, despite this  country’s long history of religious observance and the traditions of the  established Church, two High Court judges said on Monday.</p>
<p>Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson made the remarks when ruling on the  case of a Christian couple who were told that they could not be foster carers  because of their view that homosexuality is wrong.</p>
<p>The judges underlined that, in the case of fostering arrangements at least,  the right of homosexuals to equality “should take precedence” over the right of  Christians to manifest their beliefs and moral values.</p>
<p>In a ruling with potentially wide-ranging implications, the judges said  Britain was a “largely secular”, multi-cultural country in which the laws of the  realm “do not include Christianity”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is Britain&#8217;s government &#8220;largely secular&#8221;? Yes, it is, as are all Western  democracies. Our own founding fathers in the US did not set up a theocracy. But  this by no means suggests that the government should take no position that  happens to coincide with a religious view. Laws in our country against murder,  theft and extortion are rooted in Christian morality; the Biblical ideas of the  intrinsic value of each human being, and the values of justice and fairness.  Further, we have death penalties, when we do have them, for only the worst  offenders, and for the same reasons.</p>
<p><span id="more-68"></span>While other countries may have similar laws, this is more than a law issue.  Our culture itself was shaped by these same Judeo-Christian values. I&#8217;ll make  the obligatory disclaimer that it has been implemented by fallible human beings,  and it&#8217;s not always been in a manner consistent with itself. Still, this  foundation has produced the freest, wealthiest, healthiest and, yes, most  tolerant countries in history. Millions of immigrants and refugees are trying to  get into Western democracies all the time because of the results of holding to  those values.</p>
<p>In fact, the judges unwittingly note this foundation in their ruling.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Although historically this country is part of the Christian West, and  although it has an established church which is Christian, there have been  enormous changes in the social and religious life of our country over the last  century,” they said.</p>
<p>It was a “paradox” that society has become simultaneously both increasingly  secular and increasingly diverse in religious affiliation, they said.</p>
<p>“We sit as secular judges serving a multicultural community of many faiths.  We are sworn (we quote the judicial oath) to &#8216;do right to all manner of people  after the laws and usages of this realm, without fear or favour, affection or  ill will’.”</p></blockquote>
<p>The irony is clear. These judges are citing an oath, that has been proscribed  by the government influenced by the Judeo-Christian culture, to rule against  people exercising their Judeo-Christian beliefs. You won&#8217;t find an oath like  this in countries where you can be persecuted for believing the &#8220;wrong&#8221;  religion. This value of fairness to all, regardless of who they are, is thanks  to, for the most part, the Biblical beliefs of the Johns family, the ones trying  to become foster parents.</p>
<p>Is it, therefore, &#8220;fair&#8221; to only allow people with the right beliefs and  religious affiliation, approved by the government, to become foster parents?  Will the court make the same ruling for Muslims and Jews who feel the same way?  Apparently, society&#8217;s shifting standards win out over a basic, fundamental right  of freedom of religion.</p>
<blockquote><p>However, when fostering regulations were taken into account, “the equality  provisions concerning sexual orientation should take precedence” over religious  rights, they said.</p></blockquote>
<p>And thus, the more homosexuals, or any group with a protected status, can  convince governments that they must have special rights to override basic human  rights, the more the foundation is chipped away; the very foundation that made  this society what it is today, with our without an established Church.</p>
<p>Some Anglican church officials say essentially the same thing.</p>
<blockquote><p>Speaking personally, Canon Dr Chris Sugden, the executive secretary of  Anglican Mainstream, said the judges were wrong to say religion was a matter of  private individuals’ beliefs.</p>
<p>“They are treating religion like Richard Dawkins does, as if Christian faith  was on a parallel with Melanesian frog worship,” he said.</p>
<p>“The judgment asserts that there is no hierarchy of rights, but itself  implies there is one in which the right to practise one’s religion is  subordinated to the secular assumptions about equality.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Gays use to say that they didn&#8217;t want <em>special</em> rights, just  <em>equal</em> rights. This is another example of <em>special</em> rights that  cut to the very core of the free societies they live in. This is a huge step in  the wrong direction.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>How Willing Are We To Really Cut Spending</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>If we stay on the same course, budget-wise, in just 5 years the interest on  our national debt will approach what we spend to defend the country.  This  <em>must</em> be dealt with.</p>
<p>Yesterday, a White House commission put together by President Obama released  <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703805004575606643067587042.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection" target="_blank">a draft proposal to do just that</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The leaders of a White House commission laid out a sweeping proposal to cut  the federal budget deficit by hundreds of billions a year by targeting  sacrosanct areas of U.S. tax and spending policy, such as Social Security  benefits, middle-class tax breaks and defense spending.</p>
<p>The preliminary plan in its current form would end or cap a wide range of  breaks relied on by the middle class—including the deduction for home-mortgage  interest. It would tax capital gains and dividends at the higher rates now  levied on wage income. To compensate, one version of the plan would dramatically  lower and simplify individual rates, to 9%, 15% and 24%.</p>
<p>For businesses, the controversial plan would significantly lower the  corporate tax rate—from a current top rate of 35% to as low as 26%—but also  eliminate a number of deductions. It would make permanent the research and  development tax credit.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s much more; cutting $100 billion from defense, raising gas taxes,  raising the Social Security retirement age, cutting federal work force by 10%,  and others.  It&#8217;s quite a sweeping proposal, and it&#8217;ll call on the government  and the people alike to share the burden.</p>
<p>But what will it wind up doing?</p>
<blockquote><p>Overall, the plan would hold down the growth of the federal debt by roughly  $3.8 trillion by 2020, or about half of the $7.7 trillion by which the debt  would have otherwise grown by that year, according to commission staff. The  current national debt is about $13.7 trillion.</p>
<p>The budget deficit, or the amount by which federal expenditures exceed  revenues each year, was about $1.3 trillion for fiscal year 2010, which ended on  Sept. 30.</p></blockquote>
<p>Even with all this, it&#8217;ll only cut the <em>growth</em> by half, with debt  still rising by <em>t</em>rillions every year.</p>
<p>This is where we find ourselves; overextended and really unable to do  anything about it despite some Herculean efforts.  Our government has made so  many promises that it can&#8217;t renege on, that the most we can hope for is &#8220;only&#8221;  growing slower. Well, ya&#8217; gotta&#8217; start somewhere, and this is just a draft  proposal.  But this is a good start.</p>
<p>Or is it?  How do other politicians see it?  (Warning: Easily anticipated  reactions follow.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Lawmaker reaction was mixed, suggesting any final plan will be weaker than  the one released Wednesday. Sen. Judd Gregg (R., N.H.), the top Republican on  the Budget Committee and a panel member, called it &#8220;a genuine product that  deserves very serious attention.&#8221;</p>
<p><a name="U401493559076AI"></a></p>
<p>But liberal panel members were less enthusiastic. Sen. Richard Durbin (D.,  Ill.) said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for it, saying that &#8220;there are things in there that  I hate like the devil hates holy water.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And from <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/10/debt-reduction-proposal-angers-left-gets-noncommittal-white-house-response/" target="_blank">another article</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, called the proposal “simply  unacceptable.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Republicans cautiously optimistic, Democrats hate it.  Gee, who would have  predicted <em>that</em>?</p>
<blockquote><p>Some important interest groups were sharply critical, particularly over curbs  on entitlement spending. The plans authors &#8220;just told working Americans to &#8216;Drop  Dead,&#8221;&#8216; said AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka. &#8220;Especially in these tough  economic times, it is unconscionable to be proposing cuts to the critical  economic lifelines for working people, Social Security and  Medicare.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Unions hate it.  Gee, who would have predicted <em>that</em>?</p>
<p>From the second article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Liberal think tanks pushed the White House to move the deficit commission in  a different direction or to condemn it.</p>
<p>“It’s time for the Obama administration to become more engaged in the  bipartisan commission it established, or to make it clear that the commission  does not represent their viewpoint on these issues,” said John Irons, research  and policy director at the Economic Policy Institute, a labor-backed  group.</p></blockquote>
<p>Liberal think tanks hate it.  Gee, who would have predicted  <em>that</em>?</p>
<p>(Back to the first article:)</p>
<blockquote><p>The conservative Americans for Tax Reform also blasted the plan. &#8220;It confirms  what everyone has known—this commission is merely an excuse to raise net taxes  on the American people,&#8221; the group said in a written statement. Supporting the  plan would violate the group&#8217;s no-new-taxes pledge, which many Republicans and  some Democrats in Congress have signed, it warned.</p></blockquote>
<p>Single-issue groups hate it.  Gee, who would have predicted <em>that</em>?  I  do understand, however, this particular group&#8217;s problem with the proposal.   Seems that in the past, every time there was some belt tightening that needed to  be done, the government decided it was the taxpayer, not Washington, that needed  to do it.  So Americans for Tax Reform has a point, but it needs to look at the  bigger picture, I think.  Besides, it may be that the Feds take the larger hit  this time, by quite a bit.</p>
<blockquote><p>Sen. Gregg said that overall, federal spending takes a bigger hit in the plan  than taxpayers do. The plan&#8217;s goal is to reduce federal spending and federal  revenues to 21% of gross domestic product. Federal revenues currently are  projected to be about 19% of GDP in 2015, and outlays about 23%.</p>
<p>It would seek to achieve the pullbacks through a mix of spending cuts and  increasing tax revenues—about 75% in spending reductions and about 25% from the  tax side.</p></blockquote>
<p>This will be a test of the Republican freshmen, especially the Tea Partiers,  that will be coming to Washington in January.  Those who voted for them will be  watching to see if we can, indeed, make a difference based on who we send to  Congress.</p>
<p>My prediction:  No deficit-reduction proposal will go unscathed.  I imagine  the commission asked for far more than they knew they could reasonably expect to  pass Congress, anticipating that it would be scaled back.  That it will, but I  predict the Republicans will push hard for its adoption.  Democrats will have to  be bought, er, <em>brought</em> onboard but I think the lion&#8217;s share could get  passed.  The wildcard is the President.  If Obama wants a second term, I think  he&#8217;ll have to sign this.  If he doesn&#8217;t, no one, except truly blind partisans,  will ever again believe his talk about wanting fiscal responsibility, and  they&#8217;ll remember in 2012.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we stay on the same course, budget-wise, in just 5 years the interest on  our national debt will approach what we spend to defend the country.  This  <em>must</em> be dealt with.</p>
<p>Yesterday, a White House commission put together by President Obama released  <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703805004575606643067587042.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection" target="_blank">a draft proposal to do just that</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The leaders of a White House commission laid out a sweeping proposal to cut  the federal budget deficit by hundreds of billions a year by targeting  sacrosanct areas of U.S. tax and spending policy, such as Social Security  benefits, middle-class tax breaks and defense spending.</p>
<p>The preliminary plan in its current form would end or cap a wide range of  breaks relied on by the middle class—including the deduction for home-mortgage  interest. It would tax capital gains and dividends at the higher rates now  levied on wage income. To compensate, one version of the plan would dramatically  lower and simplify individual rates, to 9%, 15% and 24%.</p>
<p>For businesses, the controversial plan would significantly lower the  corporate tax rate—from a current top rate of 35% to as low as 26%—but also  eliminate a number of deductions. It would make permanent the research and  development tax credit.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s much more; cutting $100 billion from defense, raising gas taxes,  raising the Social Security retirement age, cutting federal work force by 10%,  and others.  It&#8217;s quite a sweeping proposal, and it&#8217;ll call on the government  and the people alike to share the burden.</p>
<p>But what will it wind up doing?</p>
<blockquote><p>Overall, the plan would hold down the growth of the federal debt by roughly  $3.8 trillion by 2020, or about half of the $7.7 trillion by which the debt  would have otherwise grown by that year, according to commission staff. The  current national debt is about $13.7 trillion.</p>
<p>The budget deficit, or the amount by which federal expenditures exceed  revenues each year, was about $1.3 trillion for fiscal year 2010, which ended on  Sept. 30.</p></blockquote>
<p>Even with all this, it&#8217;ll only cut the <em>growth</em> by half, with debt  still rising by <em>t</em>rillions every year.</p>
<p>This is where we find ourselves; overextended and really unable to do  anything about it despite some Herculean efforts.  Our government has made so  many promises that it can&#8217;t renege on, that the most we can hope for is &#8220;only&#8221;  growing slower. Well, ya&#8217; gotta&#8217; start somewhere, and this is just a draft  proposal.  But this is a good start.</p>
<p>Or is it?  How do other politicians see it?  (Warning: Easily anticipated  reactions follow.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Lawmaker reaction was mixed, suggesting any final plan will be weaker than  the one released Wednesday. Sen. Judd Gregg (R., N.H.), the top Republican on  the Budget Committee and a panel member, called it &#8220;a genuine product that  deserves very serious attention.&#8221;</p>
<p><a name="U401493559076AI"></a></p>
<p>But liberal panel members were less enthusiastic. Sen. Richard Durbin (D.,  Ill.) said he wouldn&#8217;t vote for it, saying that &#8220;there are things in there that  I hate like the devil hates holy water.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And from <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/10/debt-reduction-proposal-angers-left-gets-noncommittal-white-house-response/" target="_blank">another article</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, called the proposal “simply  unacceptable.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Republicans cautiously optimistic, Democrats hate it.  Gee, who would have  predicted <em>that</em>?</p>
<blockquote><p>Some important interest groups were sharply critical, particularly over curbs  on entitlement spending. The plans authors &#8220;just told working Americans to &#8216;Drop  Dead,&#8221;&#8216; said AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka. &#8220;Especially in these tough  economic times, it is unconscionable to be proposing cuts to the critical  economic lifelines for working people, Social Security and  Medicare.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Unions hate it.  Gee, who would have predicted <em>that</em>?</p>
<p>From the second article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Liberal think tanks pushed the White House to move the deficit commission in  a different direction or to condemn it.</p>
<p>“It’s time for the Obama administration to become more engaged in the  bipartisan commission it established, or to make it clear that the commission  does not represent their viewpoint on these issues,” said John Irons, research  and policy director at the Economic Policy Institute, a labor-backed  group.</p></blockquote>
<p>Liberal think tanks hate it.  Gee, who would have predicted  <em>that</em>?</p>
<p>(Back to the first article:)</p>
<blockquote><p>The conservative Americans for Tax Reform also blasted the plan. &#8220;It confirms  what everyone has known—this commission is merely an excuse to raise net taxes  on the American people,&#8221; the group said in a written statement. Supporting the  plan would violate the group&#8217;s no-new-taxes pledge, which many Republicans and  some Democrats in Congress have signed, it warned.</p></blockquote>
<p>Single-issue groups hate it.  Gee, who would have predicted <em>that</em>?  I  do understand, however, this particular group&#8217;s problem with the proposal.   Seems that in the past, every time there was some belt tightening that needed to  be done, the government decided it was the taxpayer, not Washington, that needed  to do it.  So Americans for Tax Reform has a point, but it needs to look at the  bigger picture, I think.  Besides, it may be that the Feds take the larger hit  this time, by quite a bit.</p>
<blockquote><p>Sen. Gregg said that overall, federal spending takes a bigger hit in the plan  than taxpayers do. The plan&#8217;s goal is to reduce federal spending and federal  revenues to 21% of gross domestic product. Federal revenues currently are  projected to be about 19% of GDP in 2015, and outlays about 23%.</p>
<p>It would seek to achieve the pullbacks through a mix of spending cuts and  increasing tax revenues—about 75% in spending reductions and about 25% from the  tax side.</p></blockquote>
<p>This will be a test of the Republican freshmen, especially the Tea Partiers,  that will be coming to Washington in January.  Those who voted for them will be  watching to see if we can, indeed, make a difference based on who we send to  Congress.</p>
<p>My prediction:  No deficit-reduction proposal will go unscathed.  I imagine  the commission asked for far more than they knew they could reasonably expect to  pass Congress, anticipating that it would be scaled back.  That it will, but I  predict the Republicans will push hard for its adoption.  Democrats will have to  be bought, er, <em>brought</em> onboard but I think the lion&#8217;s share could get  passed.  The wildcard is the President.  If Obama wants a second term, I think  he&#8217;ll have to sign this.  If he doesn&#8217;t, no one, except truly blind partisans,  will ever again believe his talk about wanting fiscal responsibility, and  they&#8217;ll remember in 2012.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Those Chilean Miners&#8217; Shirts</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dpayton/2010/10/15/those-chilean-miners-shirts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I saw the word &#8220;Jesus&#8221; on the sleeves of the shirts on the Chilean miners as  they came up, one by one, in the capsule.  (Yeah, we had the streaming video  going as I worked from home.  What a terrific event.)  But no news organization  so much as mentioned the other writings on those shirts.</p>
<p>Thus the citizen investigative journalist kicks in where the major media  won&#8217;t go.  The scripture verse on the back is Psalm 95:4.</p>
<blockquote><p>In his hand are the depths of the earth,<br />
and the mountain peaks  belong to him.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah.  Wow.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s more at the video on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQBqOCApC4">YouTube</a>.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the word &#8220;Jesus&#8221; on the sleeves of the shirts on the Chilean miners as  they came up, one by one, in the capsule.  (Yeah, we had the streaming video  going as I worked from home.  What a terrific event.)  But no news organization  so much as mentioned the other writings on those shirts.</p>
<p>Thus the citizen investigative journalist kicks in where the major media  won&#8217;t go.  The scripture verse on the back is Psalm 95:4.</p>
<blockquote><p>In his hand are the depths of the earth,<br />
and the mountain peaks  belong to him.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah.  Wow.</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s more at the video on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONQBqOCApC4">YouTube</a>.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Overturning Your Roots: The Prop 8 Reversal</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dpayton/2010/08/05/overturning-your-roots-the-prop-8-reversal/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It has been said that if you wish to remake a culture, you have to  disassociate it from it roots, its foundation.</p>
<p>Having said that, here is <a href="http://www.free2pray.info/5founderquotes.html">John Adams</a>, 2nd  President of the United States and signer of the Declaration of Independence,  from 1798:</p>
<blockquote><p>We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human  passions unbridled by <strong>morality and religion</strong> . . . Our  Constitution was made only for a <strong>moral and religious</strong> people. It  is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.</p></blockquote>
<p>And from <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gay-marriage-california-20100805,0,2696248.story">today&#8217;s  paper</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Reporting from San Francisco and Los Angeles —</p>
<p>A federal judge declared California&#8217;s <a href="http://lat.ms/d1JWH8">ban on  same-sex marriage</a> unconstitutional Wednesday, saying that no legitimate  state interest justified treating gay and lesbian couples differently from  others and that <strong>&#8220;moral disapproval&#8221;</strong> was not enough to save the  voter-passed <a href="http://www.latimes.com/topic/social-issues/family/same-sex-marriage/proposition-8-%28california-2010%29-EVHST0000250.topic">Proposition  8</a>.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>&#8220;The evidence shows conclusively that <strong>moral and religious</strong> views form the only basis for a belief that same-sex couples are different from  opposite-sex couples,&#8221; Walker wrote.</p></blockquote>
<p>What are the reasons we have laws against marrying children?  Are they not,  really, almost entirely moral arguments?  Dismissing those types of arguments,  and we dismiss our heritage.  Sweep that out of the way, and those in power get  to remake society.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been said that if you wish to remake a culture, you have to  disassociate it from it roots, its foundation.</p>
<p>Having said that, here is <a href="http://www.free2pray.info/5founderquotes.html">John Adams</a>, 2nd  President of the United States and signer of the Declaration of Independence,  from 1798:</p>
<blockquote><p>We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human  passions unbridled by <strong>morality and religion</strong> . . . Our  Constitution was made only for a <strong>moral and religious</strong> people. It  is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.</p></blockquote>
<p>And from <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gay-marriage-california-20100805,0,2696248.story">today&#8217;s  paper</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Reporting from San Francisco and Los Angeles —</p>
<p>A federal judge declared California&#8217;s <a href="http://lat.ms/d1JWH8">ban on  same-sex marriage</a> unconstitutional Wednesday, saying that no legitimate  state interest justified treating gay and lesbian couples differently from  others and that <strong>&#8220;moral disapproval&#8221;</strong> was not enough to save the  voter-passed <a href="http://www.latimes.com/topic/social-issues/family/same-sex-marriage/proposition-8-%28california-2010%29-EVHST0000250.topic">Proposition  8</a>.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>&#8220;The evidence shows conclusively that <strong>moral and religious</strong> views form the only basis for a belief that same-sex couples are different from  opposite-sex couples,&#8221; Walker wrote.</p></blockquote>
<p>What are the reasons we have laws against marrying children?  Are they not,  really, almost entirely moral arguments?  Dismissing those types of arguments,  and we dismiss our heritage.  Sweep that out of the way, and those in power get  to remake society.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Why I Like the Electoral College (and Not National Popular Vote Interstate Compact)</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dpayton/2010/07/30/why-i-like-the-electoral-college-and-not-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come out in favor of the Electoral College before (<a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2570">see here</a>).   Among other things, the EC ensures that Presidents get <em>broad</em> support as  opposed to simply the <em>most</em> support, it gives minorities a bigger voice,  and it makes vote fraud much more difficult.  <a href="http://www.fec.gov/pdf/eleccoll.pdf">See here</a> for an FEC paper on the  origins of the EC, and it makes for very informative reading, especially on the  reason that the Founders decided not to go with a direct popular vote for the  President.  (The paper was last updated in 1992, but the history is what&#8217;s  important.)</p>
<p>In <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703578104575397100729241576.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion">Wednesday&#8217;s  &#8220;Best of the Web Today&#8221; column</a>, James Taranto takes on the National Popular  Vote Interstate Coalition.  What they&#8217;re trying to do is get enough states,  accounting for at least the 270 electoral votes needed to win, to agree to  direct their electors to vote for whoever wins the national popular vote,  regardless of how the vote in their particular state went.</p>
<p>Taranto notes that the states currently supporting it, or who&#8217;s legislatures  have at least passed a bill on to their governor, all voted Democratic in at  least the last 5 elections, usually by double-digit margins.  Taranto surmises  (though, not really having to make a big logical leap):</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s no mystery why this idea appeals to Democrats. They are still bitter  over the disputed 2000 presidential election, in which Al Gore &#8220;won&#8221; the popular  vote but George W. Bush won the actual election. Changing the rules wouldn&#8217;t  necessarily benefit Democrats, but you can see why trying to do so might make  them feel good.</p></blockquote>
<p>After all, it was after the 2000 election that the NPVIC <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact">got  it&#8217;s start</a>.  Again, not much of a leap.</p>
<p>But there are problems with this, not even related to the question of popular  vote vs electoral vote.  While the measure would be indeed constitutional,  Taranto contends it would be unenforceable.</p>
<blockquote><p>Think about that old Philosophy 101 question: If God is omnipotent, can he  make a rock so big that he can&#8217;t lift it? It seems like a puzzle, but the answer  is clearly no. The premise that God is omnipotent leads to the conclusion that  he can both make and lift a rock of any size. &#8220;A rock so big that he can&#8217;t lift  it&#8221; is a logically incoherent construct, not a limitation on God&#8217;s power.</p>
<p>The NPVIC is based on the similarly illogical premise that lawmakers with  plenary powers can enact a law so strong that they can&#8217;t repeal it. In truth,  because a state legislature&#8217;s power in this matter is plenary, it would be an  entirely legitimate exercise of its authority to drop out of the compact anytime  before the deadline for selecting electors&#8211;be it July 21 of an election year or  Nov. 9.</p>
<p>Call it the problem of faithless lawmakers&#8211;somewhat akin to the question of  faithless electors. Legal scholars differ on whether state laws requiring  electors to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged are constitutional.  But because the power of legislatures to choose the method of selecting electors  is plenary, there is no question that the Constitution would permit faithless  lawmakers to exit the NPVIC.</p>
<p>If one or more states did so, and it affected the outcome of the election,  the result would be a political crisis that would make 2000 look tame. Unlike in  that case, the Supreme Court would be unable to review the matter because it  would be an exercise in plenary lawmaking authority. Challenges in Congress to  the electoral vote count would be almost inevitable. Whatever the outcome, it  would result from an assertion of raw political power that the losing side would  have good reason to see as illegitimate.</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem here is that we&#8217;d be giving the election of our President over to  what amounts to a gentleman&#8217;s agreement; an agreement that not even the Supreme  Court would be able to work out, since they wouldn&#8217;t have jurisdiction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still entirely behind the Electoral College system, and please read the  link for the details (and especially the FEC paper; history is important).  But  Taranto winds up with something to think about, should this gentleman&#8217;s  agreement get put in place.</p>
<blockquote><p>Since the NPVIC would be legally unenforceable, only political pressure could  be brought to bear to ensure that state legislatures stand by their commitments  to it. Would this be enough? Let&#8217;s put the question in starkly partisan terms:  If you&#8217;re a Republican, do you trust Massachusetts lawmakers to keep their word,  <em>and </em>to defy the will of the voters who elected them, if by doing so  they would make Sarah Palin president?</p></blockquote>
<p>Consider <em>this</em>.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come out in favor of the Electoral College before (<a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2570">see here</a>).   Among other things, the EC ensures that Presidents get <em>broad</em> support as  opposed to simply the <em>most</em> support, it gives minorities a bigger voice,  and it makes vote fraud much more difficult.  <a href="http://www.fec.gov/pdf/eleccoll.pdf">See here</a> for an FEC paper on the  origins of the EC, and it makes for very informative reading, especially on the  reason that the Founders decided not to go with a direct popular vote for the  President.  (The paper was last updated in 1992, but the history is what&#8217;s  important.)</p>
<p>In <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703578104575397100729241576.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion">Wednesday&#8217;s  &#8220;Best of the Web Today&#8221; column</a>, James Taranto takes on the National Popular  Vote Interstate Coalition.  What they&#8217;re trying to do is get enough states,  accounting for at least the 270 electoral votes needed to win, to agree to  direct their electors to vote for whoever wins the national popular vote,  regardless of how the vote in their particular state went.</p>
<p>Taranto notes that the states currently supporting it, or who&#8217;s legislatures  have at least passed a bill on to their governor, all voted Democratic in at  least the last 5 elections, usually by double-digit margins.  Taranto surmises  (though, not really having to make a big logical leap):</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s no mystery why this idea appeals to Democrats. They are still bitter  over the disputed 2000 presidential election, in which Al Gore &#8220;won&#8221; the popular  vote but George W. Bush won the actual election. Changing the rules wouldn&#8217;t  necessarily benefit Democrats, but you can see why trying to do so might make  them feel good.</p></blockquote>
<p>After all, it was after the 2000 election that the NPVIC <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact">got  it&#8217;s start</a>.  Again, not much of a leap.</p>
<p>But there are problems with this, not even related to the question of popular  vote vs electoral vote.  While the measure would be indeed constitutional,  Taranto contends it would be unenforceable.</p>
<blockquote><p>Think about that old Philosophy 101 question: If God is omnipotent, can he  make a rock so big that he can&#8217;t lift it? It seems like a puzzle, but the answer  is clearly no. The premise that God is omnipotent leads to the conclusion that  he can both make and lift a rock of any size. &#8220;A rock so big that he can&#8217;t lift  it&#8221; is a logically incoherent construct, not a limitation on God&#8217;s power.</p>
<p>The NPVIC is based on the similarly illogical premise that lawmakers with  plenary powers can enact a law so strong that they can&#8217;t repeal it. In truth,  because a state legislature&#8217;s power in this matter is plenary, it would be an  entirely legitimate exercise of its authority to drop out of the compact anytime  before the deadline for selecting electors&#8211;be it July 21 of an election year or  Nov. 9.</p>
<p>Call it the problem of faithless lawmakers&#8211;somewhat akin to the question of  faithless electors. Legal scholars differ on whether state laws requiring  electors to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged are constitutional.  But because the power of legislatures to choose the method of selecting electors  is plenary, there is no question that the Constitution would permit faithless  lawmakers to exit the NPVIC.</p>
<p>If one or more states did so, and it affected the outcome of the election,  the result would be a political crisis that would make 2000 look tame. Unlike in  that case, the Supreme Court would be unable to review the matter because it  would be an exercise in plenary lawmaking authority. Challenges in Congress to  the electoral vote count would be almost inevitable. Whatever the outcome, it  would result from an assertion of raw political power that the losing side would  have good reason to see as illegitimate.</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem here is that we&#8217;d be giving the election of our President over to  what amounts to a gentleman&#8217;s agreement; an agreement that not even the Supreme  Court would be able to work out, since they wouldn&#8217;t have jurisdiction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still entirely behind the Electoral College system, and please read the  link for the details (and especially the FEC paper; history is important).  But  Taranto winds up with something to think about, should this gentleman&#8217;s  agreement get put in place.</p>
<blockquote><p>Since the NPVIC would be legally unenforceable, only political pressure could  be brought to bear to ensure that state legislatures stand by their commitments  to it. Would this be enough? Let&#8217;s put the question in starkly partisan terms:  If you&#8217;re a Republican, do you trust Massachusetts lawmakers to keep their word,  <em>and </em>to defy the will of the voters who elected them, if by doing so  they would make Sarah Palin president?</p></blockquote>
<p>Consider <em>this</em>.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Small Government vs &#8220;Right-Sized&#8221; Government and the Gulf Oil Spill</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In his (always excellent) column yesterday, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704895204575320670422192984.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion">James  Taranto noted</a> that, earlier this month, President Obama was calling  small-government conservatives hypocrites for expecting the government to lead  in the Gulf oil spill issue.</p>
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<blockquote><p>In an interview with Politico, the president said: &#8220;I think it&#8217;s  fair to say, if six months ago, before this spill had happened, I had gone up to  Congress and I had said we need to crack down a lot harder on oil companies and  we need to spend more money on technology to respond in case of a catastrophic  spill, there are folks up there, who will not be named, who would have said this  is classic, big-government overregulation and wasteful spending.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The president also implied that anti-big government types such as  tea party activists were being hypocritical on the issue.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Some of the same folks who have been hollering and saying &#8216;do  something&#8217; are the same folks who, just two or three months ago, were suggesting  that government needs to stop doing so much,&#8221; Obama said. &#8220;Some of the same  people who are saying the president needs to show leadership and solve this  problem are some of the same folks who, just a few months ago, were saying this  guy is trying to engineer a takeover of our society through the federal  government that is going to restrict our freedoms.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Got that? If you didn&#8217;t support Obama&#8217;s effort to take over the health-care  system, you&#8217;re a hypocrite if you expect him to lead in a crisis, and the oil  spill is the fault of the minority party in Congress for its hypothetical  opposition that hypothetically deterred Obama from taking hypothetical  preventive measures.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama makes it clear that he has no idea at all what the Tea Partiers are all  about (or he does, and feigns ignorance to make some political points).  Small  government types are actually more correctly labeled &#8220;right-sized government&#8221;  types.  It just doesn&#8217;t roll off the tongue quite as easily.</p>
<p>Our Constitution enumerates the powers of government, and was written with a  particular role of government in mind.  Our Founding Fathers, understanding  man&#8217;s fallen nature as revealed in the Bible and seeking to restrain the  inevitable power grab that all governments throughout history had tended  towards, tried to restrain the beast while still providing enough power to do  the job it was intended to do.</p>
<p>And so the Tea Partiers seek to restore government to that role and  restraint.  It so happens that this proper size of government is quite a bit  smaller than what we have now, so &#8220;smaller government&#8221; is a good enough label  for now.  And the health care takeover is just the latest and most blatant  attempt to &#8220;super-size&#8221; this beast.</p>
<p>But comparing opposition to the health care bill with criticism of the  federal government&#8217;s handling of the Gulf oil spill is like comparing apples  with prime numbers.  One is not what our Constitution intended (and some are  making the case that it doesn&#8217;t allow it at all), especially requiring all  citizens to purchase something and penalize them if they don&#8217;t.  The other is an  interstate crisis that the federal government is specifically for.</p>
<p>In this case, Obama has been dithering while <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-louisiana-governor-bobby-jindal-asks/story?id=10731680">Louisiana  tried to get booms</a> or barrier islands to block the oil.  He didn&#8217;t use <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m6d5-Why-do-Obama-BP-refuse-to-use-most-effective-method-of-oil-cleanup">a  well-tested and very effective method</a> to clean things up early on.  He <a href="http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=130514&#38;sectionid=3510203">turned  down offers of help</a> from 17 countries.  He&#8217;s used this disaster to push for  <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner~y2010m6d5-Obama-uses-BP-oil-spill-to-push-corporate-welfare-a-deceptive-globalwarming-bill-BP-lobbied-for">ethanol  subsidies</a> that have been panned by both Republicans and Democrats alike for,  among other things, shrinking the food supply in poor countries.</p>
<p>Are those of us &#8220;small government&#8221; types hypocritical to suggest we get  leadership from our President in a time of crisis?  No, we&#8217;re not, and either  the President knows this but is willing to use this situation to score political  points, or he&#8217;s hopelessly ignorant about his critics.</p>
<p>In the meantime, we&#8217;re stuck with a community organizer in the Oval Office  who won&#8217;t or can&#8217;t or doesn&#8217;t know how to lead.  BP deserves what it gets (and  likely more) as the fallout from this spill continues, but President Obama is  likely to be protected by his party and what supporters he still has left.   (Hey, when you&#8217;ve lost <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/bp-oil-spill-political-headache-obama-democrats-slam/story?id=10746519">James  Carville</a>, you&#8217;ve lost a lot of the Left.)  It&#8217;s a teachable moment.  Is the  President in class?</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his (always excellent) column yesterday, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704895204575320670422192984.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion">James  Taranto noted</a> that, earlier this month, President Obama was calling  small-government conservatives hypocrites for expecting the government to lead  in the Gulf oil spill issue.</p>
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<blockquote><p>In an interview with Politico, the president said: &#8220;I think it&#8217;s  fair to say, if six months ago, before this spill had happened, I had gone up to  Congress and I had said we need to crack down a lot harder on oil companies and  we need to spend more money on technology to respond in case of a catastrophic  spill, there are folks up there, who will not be named, who would have said this  is classic, big-government overregulation and wasteful spending.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The president also implied that anti-big government types such as  tea party activists were being hypocritical on the issue.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Some of the same folks who have been hollering and saying &#8216;do  something&#8217; are the same folks who, just two or three months ago, were suggesting  that government needs to stop doing so much,&#8221; Obama said. &#8220;Some of the same  people who are saying the president needs to show leadership and solve this  problem are some of the same folks who, just a few months ago, were saying this  guy is trying to engineer a takeover of our society through the federal  government that is going to restrict our freedoms.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Got that? If you didn&#8217;t support Obama&#8217;s effort to take over the health-care  system, you&#8217;re a hypocrite if you expect him to lead in a crisis, and the oil  spill is the fault of the minority party in Congress for its hypothetical  opposition that hypothetically deterred Obama from taking hypothetical  preventive measures.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama makes it clear that he has no idea at all what the Tea Partiers are all  about (or he does, and feigns ignorance to make some political points).  Small  government types are actually more correctly labeled &#8220;right-sized government&#8221;  types.  It just doesn&#8217;t roll off the tongue quite as easily.</p>
<p>Our Constitution enumerates the powers of government, and was written with a  particular role of government in mind.  Our Founding Fathers, understanding  man&#8217;s fallen nature as revealed in the Bible and seeking to restrain the  inevitable power grab that all governments throughout history had tended  towards, tried to restrain the beast while still providing enough power to do  the job it was intended to do.</p>
<p>And so the Tea Partiers seek to restore government to that role and  restraint.  It so happens that this proper size of government is quite a bit  smaller than what we have now, so &#8220;smaller government&#8221; is a good enough label  for now.  And the health care takeover is just the latest and most blatant  attempt to &#8220;super-size&#8221; this beast.</p>
<p>But comparing opposition to the health care bill with criticism of the  federal government&#8217;s handling of the Gulf oil spill is like comparing apples  with prime numbers.  One is not what our Constitution intended (and some are  making the case that it doesn&#8217;t allow it at all), especially requiring all  citizens to purchase something and penalize them if they don&#8217;t.  The other is an  interstate crisis that the federal government is specifically for.</p>
<p>In this case, Obama has been dithering while <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-louisiana-governor-bobby-jindal-asks/story?id=10731680">Louisiana  tried to get booms</a> or barrier islands to block the oil.  He didn&#8217;t use <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m6d5-Why-do-Obama-BP-refuse-to-use-most-effective-method-of-oil-cleanup">a  well-tested and very effective method</a> to clean things up early on.  He <a href="http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=130514&amp;sectionid=3510203">turned  down offers of help</a> from 17 countries.  He&#8217;s used this disaster to push for  <a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner~y2010m6d5-Obama-uses-BP-oil-spill-to-push-corporate-welfare-a-deceptive-globalwarming-bill-BP-lobbied-for">ethanol  subsidies</a> that have been panned by both Republicans and Democrats alike for,  among other things, shrinking the food supply in poor countries.</p>
<p>Are those of us &#8220;small government&#8221; types hypocritical to suggest we get  leadership from our President in a time of crisis?  No, we&#8217;re not, and either  the President knows this but is willing to use this situation to score political  points, or he&#8217;s hopelessly ignorant about his critics.</p>
<p>In the meantime, we&#8217;re stuck with a community organizer in the Oval Office  who won&#8217;t or can&#8217;t or doesn&#8217;t know how to lead.  BP deserves what it gets (and  likely more) as the fallout from this spill continues, but President Obama is  likely to be protected by his party and what supporters he still has left.   (Hey, when you&#8217;ve lost <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/bp-oil-spill-political-headache-obama-democrats-slam/story?id=10746519">James  Carville</a>, you&#8217;ve lost a lot of the Left.)  It&#8217;s a teachable moment.  Is the  President in class?</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Liberals Flunk Economics 101</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It turns out that how well you know your basic economics principles  correlates pretty closely with <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703561604575282190930932412.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_PoliticsNCampaign_6">your  spot on the political spectrum</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Who is better informed about the policy choices facing the country—liberals,  conservatives or libertarians? According to a Zogby International survey that I  write about in the May issue of Econ Journal Watch, the answer is unequivocal:  The left flunks Econ 101.</p>
<p><a name="U30891862002vvD"></a></p>
<p>Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and I considered the 4,835 respondents&#8217;  (all American adults) answers to eight survey questions about basic economics.  We also asked the respondents about their political leanings: progressive/very  liberal; liberal; moderate; conservative; very conservative; and libertarian.</p></blockquote>
<p>They describe the specific questions as well as their methodology, which  breaks things down by incorrect answers, and where &#8220;not sure&#8221; doesn&#8217;t count  against you.  I can see one of the questions that I might disagree with what  they considered the correct answer, but you had to be positively wrong (so to  speak), not just unsure, to get marked off.  The results?</p>
<blockquote><p>How did the six ideological groups do overall? Here they are, best to worst,  with an average number of incorrect responses from 0 to 8: Very conservative,  1.30; Libertarian, 1.38; Conservative, 1.67; Moderate, 3.67; Liberal, 4.69;  Progressive/very liberal, 5.26.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ronald Reagan said, &#8220;The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they  are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn&#8217;t so.&#8221;  This shows how  remarkably true that is.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It turns out that how well you know your basic economics principles  correlates pretty closely with <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703561604575282190930932412.html?mod=WSJ_WSJ_US_PoliticsNCampaign_6">your  spot on the political spectrum</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Who is better informed about the policy choices facing the country—liberals,  conservatives or libertarians? According to a Zogby International survey that I  write about in the May issue of Econ Journal Watch, the answer is unequivocal:  The left flunks Econ 101.</p>
<p><a name="U30891862002vvD"></a></p>
<p>Zogby researcher Zeljka Buturovic and I considered the 4,835 respondents&#8217;  (all American adults) answers to eight survey questions about basic economics.  We also asked the respondents about their political leanings: progressive/very  liberal; liberal; moderate; conservative; very conservative; and libertarian.</p></blockquote>
<p>They describe the specific questions as well as their methodology, which  breaks things down by incorrect answers, and where &#8220;not sure&#8221; doesn&#8217;t count  against you.  I can see one of the questions that I might disagree with what  they considered the correct answer, but you had to be positively wrong (so to  speak), not just unsure, to get marked off.  The results?</p>
<blockquote><p>How did the six ideological groups do overall? Here they are, best to worst,  with an average number of incorrect responses from 0 to 8: Very conservative,  1.30; Libertarian, 1.38; Conservative, 1.67; Moderate, 3.67; Liberal, 4.69;  Progressive/very liberal, 5.26.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ronald Reagan said, &#8220;The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they  are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn&#8217;t so.&#8221;  This shows how  remarkably true that is.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Stereotypes Last Only As Long As You Let Them</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/us/05beliefs.html">This woman</a> and <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2959">Penn  Jillette</a> might have a lot in common to talk about regarding how the  Religious Right have been portrayed in our culture.</p>
<blockquote><p>[Eve] Tushnet entered <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/y/yale_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org">Yale</a> in 1996 a happy lesbian, out since age 13 or 14 (she can’t quite remember). Her  father, a nonobservant Jew, and her mother, a Unitarian, both belonged to  progressive traditions, tolerant of her sexuality.</p>
<p>When, as a freshman, she attended a meeting of the <a href="http://www.partyoftheright.org/">Party of the Right</a>, a conservative  group affiliated with the <a href="http://www.yale.edu/ypu/">Yale Political  Union</a>, it was “specifically to laugh at them, to see the zoo animals,” she  says.</p>
<p>“But I was really impressed, not only by the weird arguments but the degree  to which it was clear that the people making them lived as if what they were  saying had actual consequences for their lives, that had required them to make  sacrifices.”</p>
<p>In Ms. Tushnet’s time, as in mine — I was four years ahead of her at Yale —  the Party of the Right had a benignantly cultish quality. “Have you read ‘The  Secret History?’ ” she asks, referring to Donna Tartt’s 1992 novel about a  secretive student clique obsessed with Greek literature. “It was like  that.”</p></blockquote>
<p>But she listened to them, sincerely, and came out with a far, far different  view of them than the culture had led her to believe.</p>
<blockquote><p>But she found the Party of the Right students compassionate, intellectual and  not terribly exercised about her homosexuality. She was drawn to the Catholics  among them, who corrected her misimpression that the existence of sin “means you  are bad.” It means “precisely the opposite,” they taught her. “It means you have  a chance to come back and repent and be saved,” she says. She began reading  books like St. Anselm’s “Why God Became Man.” She began attending church. Her  sophomore year, she was baptized.</p>
<p>“By the time it was real enough to be threatening,” she says of her  conversion, “things had gone too far. I didn’t see it coming.”</p></blockquote>
<p>So now she&#8217;s a fervent Catholic and against same-sex marriage, but isn&#8217;t  trying to change her religion to fit her notions of right and wrong.  She really  believes in it, and understands what that means for her life.</p>
<blockquote><p>As the hundred or so daily readers of <a href="http://eve-tushnet.blogspot.com/">eve-tushnet.blogspot.com</a>, and a  larger audience for her magazine writing, know by now, Ms. Tushnet can seem a  paradox: fervently Catholic, proudly gay, happily celibate. She does not see  herself as disordered; she does not struggle to be straight, but she insists  that her religion forbids her a sex life.</p>
<p>“The sacrifices you want to make aren’t always the only sacrifices God  wants,” Ms. Tushnet wrote in a 2007 essay for <a href="http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/">Commonweal</a>. While gay sex should  not be criminalized, she said, gay men and lesbians should abstain. They might  instead have passionate friendships, or sublimate their urges into other  pursuits. “It turns out I happen to be very good at sublimating,” she says,  while acknowledging that that is a lot to ask of others.</p>
<p>Marriage should be reserved for heterosexuals, whose “relationships can be  either uniquely dangerous or uniquely fruitful,” she explained in an e-mail  message. “Thus it makes sense to have an institution dedicated to structuring  and channeling them.”</p></blockquote>
<p>She has her problems with the ex-gay movement (<a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/282919/homo-no-mo/eve-tushnet">see  here</a> for her very thoughtful NRO piece on the topic), but does understand  what the Church teaches on the subject and, rather than practice the a la carte  version of Christianity some do, she&#8217;s taken Jesus&#8217; advice to count the cost,  and decided to apply the teachings rather than ignore that which she holds  true.  That&#8217;s dedication and commitment.</p>
<p>But she got there by actually listening and giving a fair hearing to what  others considered religious nuts.  Don&#8217;t believe the press.  Well, in general,  but specifically about the Religious Right(tm).  Find out for yourself.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/us/05beliefs.html">This woman</a> and <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2959">Penn  Jillette</a> might have a lot in common to talk about regarding how the  Religious Right have been portrayed in our culture.</p>
<blockquote><p>[Eve] Tushnet entered <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/y/yale_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org">Yale</a> in 1996 a happy lesbian, out since age 13 or 14 (she can’t quite remember). Her  father, a nonobservant Jew, and her mother, a Unitarian, both belonged to  progressive traditions, tolerant of her sexuality.</p>
<p>When, as a freshman, she attended a meeting of the <a href="http://www.partyoftheright.org/">Party of the Right</a>, a conservative  group affiliated with the <a href="http://www.yale.edu/ypu/">Yale Political  Union</a>, it was “specifically to laugh at them, to see the zoo animals,” she  says.</p>
<p>“But I was really impressed, not only by the weird arguments but the degree  to which it was clear that the people making them lived as if what they were  saying had actual consequences for their lives, that had required them to make  sacrifices.”</p>
<p>In Ms. Tushnet’s time, as in mine — I was four years ahead of her at Yale —  the Party of the Right had a benignantly cultish quality. “Have you read ‘The  Secret History?’ ” she asks, referring to Donna Tartt’s 1992 novel about a  secretive student clique obsessed with Greek literature. “It was like  that.”</p></blockquote>
<p>But she listened to them, sincerely, and came out with a far, far different  view of them than the culture had led her to believe.</p>
<blockquote><p>But she found the Party of the Right students compassionate, intellectual and  not terribly exercised about her homosexuality. She was drawn to the Catholics  among them, who corrected her misimpression that the existence of sin “means you  are bad.” It means “precisely the opposite,” they taught her. “It means you have  a chance to come back and repent and be saved,” she says. She began reading  books like St. Anselm’s “Why God Became Man.” She began attending church. Her  sophomore year, she was baptized.</p>
<p>“By the time it was real enough to be threatening,” she says of her  conversion, “things had gone too far. I didn’t see it coming.”</p></blockquote>
<p>So now she&#8217;s a fervent Catholic and against same-sex marriage, but isn&#8217;t  trying to change her religion to fit her notions of right and wrong.  She really  believes in it, and understands what that means for her life.</p>
<blockquote><p>As the hundred or so daily readers of <a href="http://eve-tushnet.blogspot.com/">eve-tushnet.blogspot.com</a>, and a  larger audience for her magazine writing, know by now, Ms. Tushnet can seem a  paradox: fervently Catholic, proudly gay, happily celibate. She does not see  herself as disordered; she does not struggle to be straight, but she insists  that her religion forbids her a sex life.</p>
<p>“The sacrifices you want to make aren’t always the only sacrifices God  wants,” Ms. Tushnet wrote in a 2007 essay for <a href="http://www.commonwealmagazine.org/">Commonweal</a>. While gay sex should  not be criminalized, she said, gay men and lesbians should abstain. They might  instead have passionate friendships, or sublimate their urges into other  pursuits. “It turns out I happen to be very good at sublimating,” she says,  while acknowledging that that is a lot to ask of others.</p>
<p>Marriage should be reserved for heterosexuals, whose “relationships can be  either uniquely dangerous or uniquely fruitful,” she explained in an e-mail  message. “Thus it makes sense to have an institution dedicated to structuring  and channeling them.”</p></blockquote>
<p>She has her problems with the ex-gay movement (<a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/282919/homo-no-mo/eve-tushnet">see  here</a> for her very thoughtful NRO piece on the topic), but does understand  what the Church teaches on the subject and, rather than practice the a la carte  version of Christianity some do, she&#8217;s taken Jesus&#8217; advice to count the cost,  and decided to apply the teachings rather than ignore that which she holds  true.  That&#8217;s dedication and commitment.</p>
<p>But she got there by actually listening and giving a fair hearing to what  others considered religious nuts.  Don&#8217;t believe the press.  Well, in general,  but specifically about the Religious Right(tm).  Find out for yourself.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Learn From Canada!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In the superb movie <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awakenings">&#8220;Awakenings&#8221;</a>, Leonard Lowe  (Robert DeNiro) is woken up from his catatonic state by a drug administered by  Dr. Malcolm Sayer (Robin Williams).  All goes well until Leonard starts to  exhibit some side effects.  While this is happening, he insists that Dr. Sayer  continue to film him, which Sayer is doing as part of the research.  We see  Leonard from the perspective of the movie camera, almost yelling at it, &#8220;Learn  from me!  Learn from me!&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to watch this experiment demonstrating, in the body of Leonard,  what could be a huge flaw in what otherwise appears to be a promising treatment  for his illness.  It is a turning point in the story.</p>
<p>We are at such a turning point in <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100531/hl_nm/us_health_3">another medical  story</a>, but I wonder if we&#8217;ll notice it and learn from it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Pressured by an aging population and the need to rein in budget deficits,  Canada&#8217;s provinces are taking tough measures to curb healthcare costs, a trend  that could erode the principles of the popular state-funded system.</p>
<p>Ontario, Canada&#8217;s most populous province, kicked off a fierce battle with  drug companies and pharmacies when it said earlier this year it would halve  generic drug prices and eliminate &#8220;incentive fees&#8221; to generic drug  manufacturers.</p>
<p>British Columbia is replacing block grants to hospitals with  fee-for-procedure payments and Quebec has a new flat health tax and a proposal  for payments on each medical visit &#8212; an idea that critics say is an illegal  user fee.</p>
<p>And a few provinces are also experimenting with private funding for  procedures such as hip, knee and cataract surgery.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s likely just a start as the provinces, responsible for delivering  healthcare, cope with the demands of a retiring baby-boom generation. Official  figures show that senior citizens will make up 25 percent of the population by  2036.</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s got to be some change to the status quo whether it happens in three  years or 10 years,&#8221; said Derek Burleton, senior economist at Toronto-Dominion  Bank.</p>
<p>&#8220;We can&#8217;t continually see health spending growing above and beyond the growth  rate in the economy because, at some point, it means crowding out of all the  other government services.</p>
<p>&#8220;At some stage we&#8217;re going to hit a breaking point.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A government handout (or, really, a redistribution of wealth)  running way  over budget?  (See <a href="http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2010/06/01/say-about-that-wonderful-awesome-monumental-going-broke-canadian-health-systerm/">&#8220;Stop  the ACLU&#8221;</a> for a discussion of costs in the Canadian system that the  Democrats pretend they can keep at half.)  Why do we keep hearing this tune and  yet be surprised when it ends exactly the same way?  Why do politicians say that  this kind of system will reduce costs when&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Ontario says healthcare could eat up 70 percent of its budget in 12 years, if  all these costs are left unchecked.</p></blockquote>
<p>The answer for Canada is cut back on benefits, which they&#8217;re seriously  considering.  But that is fraught with trouble.</p>
<blockquote><p>Scotia Capital&#8217;s Webb said one cost-saving idea may be to make patients aware  of how much it costs each time they visit a healthcare professional. &#8220;(The  public) will use the services more wisely if they know how much it&#8217;s costing,&#8221;  she said.</p>
<p>&#8220;If it&#8217;s absolutely free with no information on the cost and the information  of an alternative that would be have been more practical, then how can we expect  the public to wisely use the service?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem with separating the payment from the service.  It&#8217;s  <em>not</em> absolutely free; it&#8217;s paid for with huge national taxes.  But  thinking it&#8217;s free, or even just using it more knowing that you won&#8217;t be charged  more, creates additional demand that the system can&#8217;t handle.</p>
<p>But once you&#8217;ve made that mistake, there&#8217;s no going back.</p>
<blockquote><p>But change may come slowly. Universal healthcare is central to Canada&#8217;s  <strong>national identity</strong>, and decisions are made <strong>as much on  politics as economics</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s an area that Canadians don&#8217;t want to see touched,&#8221; said TD&#8217;s Burleton.  &#8220;Essentially it boils down the wishes of the population. But I think, from an  economist&#8217;s standpoint, we point to the fact that sometimes Canadians in the  short term may not realize the cost.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>These economic decisions are now even more political than they ever were, but  the thought of damaging something so much identified with Canada is just  unthinkable.  So Canada must either go bankrupt, reduce services, or raise  taxes.  And all this from a program that was supposed to <em>reduce</em> costs.</p>
<p>This, folks, is the future of ObamaCare(tm) if it gets implemented or, worse,  if the removed provisions get implemented piecemeal later on.  Canada is  suffering from the experiment.  Learn from it.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the superb movie <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awakenings">&#8220;Awakenings&#8221;</a>, Leonard Lowe  (Robert DeNiro) is woken up from his catatonic state by a drug administered by  Dr. Malcolm Sayer (Robin Williams).  All goes well until Leonard starts to  exhibit some side effects.  While this is happening, he insists that Dr. Sayer  continue to film him, which Sayer is doing as part of the research.  We see  Leonard from the perspective of the movie camera, almost yelling at it, &#8220;Learn  from me!  Learn from me!&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to watch this experiment demonstrating, in the body of Leonard,  what could be a huge flaw in what otherwise appears to be a promising treatment  for his illness.  It is a turning point in the story.</p>
<p>We are at such a turning point in <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100531/hl_nm/us_health_3">another medical  story</a>, but I wonder if we&#8217;ll notice it and learn from it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Pressured by an aging population and the need to rein in budget deficits,  Canada&#8217;s provinces are taking tough measures to curb healthcare costs, a trend  that could erode the principles of the popular state-funded system.</p>
<p>Ontario, Canada&#8217;s most populous province, kicked off a fierce battle with  drug companies and pharmacies when it said earlier this year it would halve  generic drug prices and eliminate &#8220;incentive fees&#8221; to generic drug  manufacturers.</p>
<p>British Columbia is replacing block grants to hospitals with  fee-for-procedure payments and Quebec has a new flat health tax and a proposal  for payments on each medical visit &#8212; an idea that critics say is an illegal  user fee.</p>
<p>And a few provinces are also experimenting with private funding for  procedures such as hip, knee and cataract surgery.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s likely just a start as the provinces, responsible for delivering  healthcare, cope with the demands of a retiring baby-boom generation. Official  figures show that senior citizens will make up 25 percent of the population by  2036.</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s got to be some change to the status quo whether it happens in three  years or 10 years,&#8221; said Derek Burleton, senior economist at Toronto-Dominion  Bank.</p>
<p>&#8220;We can&#8217;t continually see health spending growing above and beyond the growth  rate in the economy because, at some point, it means crowding out of all the  other government services.</p>
<p>&#8220;At some stage we&#8217;re going to hit a breaking point.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>A government handout (or, really, a redistribution of wealth)  running way  over budget?  (See <a href="http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2010/06/01/say-about-that-wonderful-awesome-monumental-going-broke-canadian-health-systerm/">&#8220;Stop  the ACLU&#8221;</a> for a discussion of costs in the Canadian system that the  Democrats pretend they can keep at half.)  Why do we keep hearing this tune and  yet be surprised when it ends exactly the same way?  Why do politicians say that  this kind of system will reduce costs when&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Ontario says healthcare could eat up 70 percent of its budget in 12 years, if  all these costs are left unchecked.</p></blockquote>
<p>The answer for Canada is cut back on benefits, which they&#8217;re seriously  considering.  But that is fraught with trouble.</p>
<blockquote><p>Scotia Capital&#8217;s Webb said one cost-saving idea may be to make patients aware  of how much it costs each time they visit a healthcare professional. &#8220;(The  public) will use the services more wisely if they know how much it&#8217;s costing,&#8221;  she said.</p>
<p>&#8220;If it&#8217;s absolutely free with no information on the cost and the information  of an alternative that would be have been more practical, then how can we expect  the public to wisely use the service?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem with separating the payment from the service.  It&#8217;s  <em>not</em> absolutely free; it&#8217;s paid for with huge national taxes.  But  thinking it&#8217;s free, or even just using it more knowing that you won&#8217;t be charged  more, creates additional demand that the system can&#8217;t handle.</p>
<p>But once you&#8217;ve made that mistake, there&#8217;s no going back.</p>
<blockquote><p>But change may come slowly. Universal healthcare is central to Canada&#8217;s  <strong>national identity</strong>, and decisions are made <strong>as much on  politics as economics</strong>.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s an area that Canadians don&#8217;t want to see touched,&#8221; said TD&#8217;s Burleton.  &#8220;Essentially it boils down the wishes of the population. But I think, from an  economist&#8217;s standpoint, we point to the fact that sometimes Canadians in the  short term may not realize the cost.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>These economic decisions are now even more political than they ever were, but  the thought of damaging something so much identified with Canada is just  unthinkable.  So Canada must either go bankrupt, reduce services, or raise  taxes.  And all this from a program that was supposed to <em>reduce</em> costs.</p>
<p>This, folks, is the future of ObamaCare(tm) if it gets implemented or, worse,  if the removed provisions get implemented piecemeal later on.  Canada is  suffering from the experiment.  Learn from it.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Is Margaret Chan the Next Michael Moore?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Moore made some money making the movie &#8220;Sicko&#8221;, which extolled the virtues of  the Cuban health care system, such as it is.  Margaret Chan might be trying to  do the same for <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/30/AR2010043001419_pf.html">the  North Korean one</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>GENEVA (Reuters) &#8211; <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/countries/korea.html?nav=el">North  Korea&#8217;s</a> health system would be the envy of many developing countries because  of the abundance of medical staff that it has available, the head of the World  Health Organization said on Friday.</p>
<p>WHO Director-General Margaret Chan, speaking a day after returning from a  2-1/2 day visit to the reclusive country, said malnutrition was a problem in  North Korea but she had not seen any obvious signs of it in the capital  Pyongyang.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, nothing to see here, as long as you look where we say you can, and only  in the &#8220;obvious&#8221; places.  But it gets better.</p>
<blockquote><p>North Korea &#8212; which does not allow its citizens to leave the country &#8212; has  no shortage of doctors and nurses, in contrast to other developing countries  where skilled healthcare workers often emigrate, she said.</p>
<p>This allows North Korea to provide comprehensive healthcare, with one  &#8220;household doctor&#8221; looking after every 130 families, said the head of the United  Nations health agency, praising North Korea&#8217;s immunization coverage and mother  and child care.</p>
<p>&#8220;They have something which most other developing countries would envy,&#8221; Chan  told a news conference, noting that her visit was a rare sign of the communist  state&#8217;s willingness to cooperate with outside agencies.</p></blockquote>
<p>See?  All we really need to do is seal the borders, and we&#8217;d have the best  healthcare in the world!  We could solve the illegal immigration and health care  issues with one stone.  Then <em>we&#8217;d</em> be the envy of the developing world,  and be complimented during the rare times we talked to anyone on the outside.   (Hey, that solves our &#8220;lost our standing in the world&#8221; problem, too!)</p>
<blockquote><p>Chan spent most of her brief visit in Pyongyang, and she said that from what  she had seen there most people had the same height and weight as Asians in other  countries, while there were no signs of the obesity emerging in some parts of  Asia.</p>
<p>But she said conditions could be different in the countryside.</p>
<p>News reports said earlier this year that North Koreans were starving to death  and unrest was growing as last year&#8217;s currency revaluation caused prices to  soar.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that&#8217;s how you solve the obesity problem; centrally control the economy  to invoke food shortages and starve your people!  It just seems so simple.  (And  I gotta&#8217; wonder if Jonathan Lynn, the Reuters news service writer, had a grin on  his face as he deadpanned that last paragraph.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Chan, who described her visit as &#8220;technical and professional&#8221; &#8212; in other  words avoiding politics &#8212; said the North Korean government&#8217;s readiness to work  with international agencies, such as the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis  and Malaria, was encouraging.</p>
<p>The Global Fund requires countries it works with to provide sound data,  account for resources contributed and allow access by officials, she noted.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can confirm that at least in the area of health the government is  receptive to engagement with international partners,&#8221; she said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which, when translated, means, &#8220;They&#8217;re ready for their bailout.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kim Jong Il (who is a man) has eliminated obesity, stopped illegal  immigration, is complimented by world organizations, and has held on to his  country&#8217;s doctors.  Margaret, you need to emphasize this in your documentary.  I  smell Oscar!</p>
<p>Some may argue that South Korea, the wealthier southern capitalist neighbor,  is doing better economically, but you know something, Margaret; I bet they have  fat kids there.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moore made some money making the movie &#8220;Sicko&#8221;, which extolled the virtues of  the Cuban health care system, such as it is.  Margaret Chan might be trying to  do the same for <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/30/AR2010043001419_pf.html">the  North Korean one</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>GENEVA (Reuters) &#8211; <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/countries/korea.html?nav=el">North  Korea&#8217;s</a> health system would be the envy of many developing countries because  of the abundance of medical staff that it has available, the head of the World  Health Organization said on Friday.</p>
<p>WHO Director-General Margaret Chan, speaking a day after returning from a  2-1/2 day visit to the reclusive country, said malnutrition was a problem in  North Korea but she had not seen any obvious signs of it in the capital  Pyongyang.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, nothing to see here, as long as you look where we say you can, and only  in the &#8220;obvious&#8221; places.  But it gets better.</p>
<blockquote><p>North Korea &#8212; which does not allow its citizens to leave the country &#8212; has  no shortage of doctors and nurses, in contrast to other developing countries  where skilled healthcare workers often emigrate, she said.</p>
<p>This allows North Korea to provide comprehensive healthcare, with one  &#8220;household doctor&#8221; looking after every 130 families, said the head of the United  Nations health agency, praising North Korea&#8217;s immunization coverage and mother  and child care.</p>
<p>&#8220;They have something which most other developing countries would envy,&#8221; Chan  told a news conference, noting that her visit was a rare sign of the communist  state&#8217;s willingness to cooperate with outside agencies.</p></blockquote>
<p>See?  All we really need to do is seal the borders, and we&#8217;d have the best  healthcare in the world!  We could solve the illegal immigration and health care  issues with one stone.  Then <em>we&#8217;d</em> be the envy of the developing world,  and be complimented during the rare times we talked to anyone on the outside.   (Hey, that solves our &#8220;lost our standing in the world&#8221; problem, too!)</p>
<blockquote><p>Chan spent most of her brief visit in Pyongyang, and she said that from what  she had seen there most people had the same height and weight as Asians in other  countries, while there were no signs of the obesity emerging in some parts of  Asia.</p>
<p>But she said conditions could be different in the countryside.</p>
<p>News reports said earlier this year that North Koreans were starving to death  and unrest was growing as last year&#8217;s currency revaluation caused prices to  soar.</p></blockquote>
<p>And that&#8217;s how you solve the obesity problem; centrally control the economy  to invoke food shortages and starve your people!  It just seems so simple.  (And  I gotta&#8217; wonder if Jonathan Lynn, the Reuters news service writer, had a grin on  his face as he deadpanned that last paragraph.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Chan, who described her visit as &#8220;technical and professional&#8221; &#8212; in other  words avoiding politics &#8212; said the North Korean government&#8217;s readiness to work  with international agencies, such as the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis  and Malaria, was encouraging.</p>
<p>The Global Fund requires countries it works with to provide sound data,  account for resources contributed and allow access by officials, she noted.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can confirm that at least in the area of health the government is  receptive to engagement with international partners,&#8221; she said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which, when translated, means, &#8220;They&#8217;re ready for their bailout.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kim Jong Il (who is a man) has eliminated obesity, stopped illegal  immigration, is complimented by world organizations, and has held on to his  country&#8217;s doctors.  Margaret, you need to emphasize this in your documentary.  I  smell Oscar!</p>
<p>Some may argue that South Korea, the wealthier southern capitalist neighbor,  is doing better economically, but you know something, Margaret; I bet they have  fat kids there.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>A Modest Proposal</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been mulling this over for quite a while, and I think it&#8217;s time to put  these thoughts out there and see if I can get other fair-minded folks to back me  up on this.  I&#8217;ll have to admit it&#8217;s not something that&#8217;ll be easy to adjust to,  but I think that, in the end, you&#8217;ll thank me.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents#Statistics" target="_blank">On average, every year airline travel kills 1,000 people.</a> <em>Every year.</em> Now, statistics about deaths per passenger or per  passenger-mile are used to try to mitigate this, but if one of those 1,000  people is someone you know &#8212; friend, family, or perhaps yourself &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t  matter how many others didn&#8217;t die.  Those are 1,000 people that aren&#8217;t going to  be landing at an airport near you <em>ever again</em>.  Consider this; that&#8217;s  1/3 of a 9-11-type terrorist attack <em>every year</em>.  Where&#8217;s the uproar  about <em>that</em>?</p>
<p>And even if you cravenly choose to brush this aside, let&#8217;s not forget the  death traps that are automobiles.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year" target="_blank">On an average year, these instruments of death cause 40,000 &#8211;  50,000 deaths!</a> <em>Every year!</em> Osama bin Laden doesn&#8217;t have to kill  us infidels with planes; he can just wait for Detroit to do it for him.</p>
<p>Given the immense human cost of these modes of transportation, I think that  any sober individual would agree that these statistics prove that air flight and  driving should be outlawed, or at least a moratorium put on their use until such  time as they can be made completely harmless to man and beast alike.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t, or shouldn&#8217;t be, a Democrat/Republican, liberal/conservative  thing.  All Americans have life, and losing it should be avoided at all costs.   Even one death is too much if we truly value the safety of our people,  especially our children.  Children are usually put into these instruments of  death without a say in the matter, and so we must speak for them.  Ban  transportation <em>for the children</em>.</p>
<p>This may adversely affect our culture, our economy, and our competitiveness  in the world market, but again, what is one life worth?  Environmentalists seek  to save endangered animals; what about the endangered humans?</p>
<p>In conclusion, instead of moving around so much, we should stay still.   <em>Still, baby, still!</em></p>
<p>In other news today, with the oil spill from the BP rig explosion in the Gulf  of Mexico ,which killed 11, heading for land, <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/dont_drill_baby_drill_20100430/" target="_blank">many on the Left</a> are calling for a <a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/04/27/drill-baby-drill-louisiana-oil-spill-now-1800-square-miles-wide/" target="_blank">stop to off-shore drilling</a>.  <a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36271_Dont_Drill_Baby_Dont_Drill" target="_blank">Some are invoking</a> an accident from 21 years ago to buttress  their point, and <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/04/moran_asks_salazar_to_reconsid.html" target="_blank">asking for at least a moratorium</a> on new drilling.  Perfection,  apparently, has not yet been reached.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been mulling this over for quite a while, and I think it&#8217;s time to put  these thoughts out there and see if I can get other fair-minded folks to back me  up on this.  I&#8217;ll have to admit it&#8217;s not something that&#8217;ll be easy to adjust to,  but I think that, in the end, you&#8217;ll thank me.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents#Statistics" target="_blank">On average, every year airline travel kills 1,000 people.</a> <em>Every year.</em> Now, statistics about deaths per passenger or per  passenger-mile are used to try to mitigate this, but if one of those 1,000  people is someone you know &#8212; friend, family, or perhaps yourself &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t  matter how many others didn&#8217;t die.  Those are 1,000 people that aren&#8217;t going to  be landing at an airport near you <em>ever again</em>.  Consider this; that&#8217;s  1/3 of a 9-11-type terrorist attack <em>every year</em>.  Where&#8217;s the uproar  about <em>that</em>?</p>
<p>And even if you cravenly choose to brush this aside, let&#8217;s not forget the  death traps that are automobiles.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year" target="_blank">On an average year, these instruments of death cause 40,000 &#8211;  50,000 deaths!</a> <em>Every year!</em> Osama bin Laden doesn&#8217;t have to kill  us infidels with planes; he can just wait for Detroit to do it for him.</p>
<p>Given the immense human cost of these modes of transportation, I think that  any sober individual would agree that these statistics prove that air flight and  driving should be outlawed, or at least a moratorium put on their use until such  time as they can be made completely harmless to man and beast alike.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t, or shouldn&#8217;t be, a Democrat/Republican, liberal/conservative  thing.  All Americans have life, and losing it should be avoided at all costs.   Even one death is too much if we truly value the safety of our people,  especially our children.  Children are usually put into these instruments of  death without a say in the matter, and so we must speak for them.  Ban  transportation <em>for the children</em>.</p>
<p>This may adversely affect our culture, our economy, and our competitiveness  in the world market, but again, what is one life worth?  Environmentalists seek  to save endangered animals; what about the endangered humans?</p>
<p>In conclusion, instead of moving around so much, we should stay still.   <em>Still, baby, still!</em></p>
<p>In other news today, with the oil spill from the BP rig explosion in the Gulf  of Mexico ,which killed 11, heading for land, <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/dont_drill_baby_drill_20100430/" target="_blank">many on the Left</a> are calling for a <a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2010/04/27/drill-baby-drill-louisiana-oil-spill-now-1800-square-miles-wide/" target="_blank">stop to off-shore drilling</a>.  <a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36271_Dont_Drill_Baby_Dont_Drill" target="_blank">Some are invoking</a> an accident from 21 years ago to buttress  their point, and <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/04/moran_asks_salazar_to_reconsid.html" target="_blank">asking for at least a moratorium</a> on new drilling.  Perfection,  apparently, has not yet been reached.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>Imposing Health Care Costs on Society</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A blog I used to write was just a collection of quotes I liked.  Early one  was <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/quotes/2003_01_01_archive.html#87438064">this  one</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Smokers don&#8217;t impose health care costs on society; governments that insist  on paying for smokers&#8217; health care impose health care costs on society.&#8221; &#8212;  Sasha Volokh, from The Volokh Conspiracy blog</p></blockquote>
<p>(This was done while the Volokh Conspiracy was still using Blogspot.  They&#8217;ve  moved to their <a href="http://www.volokh.com/">own domain</a> and the old one  has a completely different kind of blog on it, so sorry, no link to the original  post.)</p>
<p>It is, of course, a more wordy version of &#8220;Guns don&#8217;t kill; people kill&#8221;  saying, retasked to a new subject.  Sasha&#8217;s version was written in 2003.  Seven  years later, it takes on a new meaning.</p>
<p>I was reminded of this quote <a href="http://www.qando.net/?p=7642">when I  read this post</a> from Bruce McQuain.  He talks about the easy slide from Nanny  State to Bully State, and how the opposition go the health care bill is and  always was based on freedom, and what happens when government is given a bigger  and bigger share of the freedom in this country, for whatever the good  intention.  He quotes a report from the Institute for Public Affairs that lists  a series of assumptions governments make when they take over health  decisions.</p>
<blockquote><p>Most of the health care burden is driven by disease that results from  lifestyle decisions.</p>
<p>Most of the health care burden is therefore, in theory, preventable.</p>
<p>The cost of most lifestyle-related disease is not recovered from the  individuals with such diseases or from the industries whose products contribute  to these diseases.</p>
<p>Individual autonomy cannot be the paramount value in health care.</p>
<p>Individual choice as a basis for health is ‘too simplistic’.</p>
<p>Individual freedoms may have to give way to the coercive power of the  State.</p>
<p>Interventions, including coercive actions, to change behaviour may proceed in  the absence of evidence of their effectiveness.</p>
<p>Individuals have a clear responsibility to refrain from lifestyle decisions  that lead to disease and, consequently, treatment can be denied to those who  refuse to change their behaviour.</p></blockquote>
<p>With the passage of the health care reform bill, we&#8217;ve already slipped about  <em>halfway</em> down this particular slope.  Never mind smokers, Sasha, the  official nationalization of this sector now means that all sorts of bad habits  are guaranteed to affect everyone in the country because the government insists  on it.</p>
<p>And this is different from insurance companies charging more for smokers or  young drivers or people who sky dive.  Insurance companies can&#8217;t make these  choices illegal; they can only charge you more for the higher risk you are  asking them to take on.  The government, however, has far, far more power at  hand.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about freedom, and it&#8217;s being eroded away.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blog I used to write was just a collection of quotes I liked.  Early one  was <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/quotes/2003_01_01_archive.html#87438064">this  one</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Smokers don&#8217;t impose health care costs on society; governments that insist  on paying for smokers&#8217; health care impose health care costs on society.&#8221; &#8212;  Sasha Volokh, from The Volokh Conspiracy blog</p></blockquote>
<p>(This was done while the Volokh Conspiracy was still using Blogspot.  They&#8217;ve  moved to their <a href="http://www.volokh.com/">own domain</a> and the old one  has a completely different kind of blog on it, so sorry, no link to the original  post.)</p>
<p>It is, of course, a more wordy version of &#8220;Guns don&#8217;t kill; people kill&#8221;  saying, retasked to a new subject.  Sasha&#8217;s version was written in 2003.  Seven  years later, it takes on a new meaning.</p>
<p>I was reminded of this quote <a href="http://www.qando.net/?p=7642">when I  read this post</a> from Bruce McQuain.  He talks about the easy slide from Nanny  State to Bully State, and how the opposition go the health care bill is and  always was based on freedom, and what happens when government is given a bigger  and bigger share of the freedom in this country, for whatever the good  intention.  He quotes a report from the Institute for Public Affairs that lists  a series of assumptions governments make when they take over health  decisions.</p>
<blockquote><p>Most of the health care burden is driven by disease that results from  lifestyle decisions.</p>
<p>Most of the health care burden is therefore, in theory, preventable.</p>
<p>The cost of most lifestyle-related disease is not recovered from the  individuals with such diseases or from the industries whose products contribute  to these diseases.</p>
<p>Individual autonomy cannot be the paramount value in health care.</p>
<p>Individual choice as a basis for health is ‘too simplistic’.</p>
<p>Individual freedoms may have to give way to the coercive power of the  State.</p>
<p>Interventions, including coercive actions, to change behaviour may proceed in  the absence of evidence of their effectiveness.</p>
<p>Individuals have a clear responsibility to refrain from lifestyle decisions  that lead to disease and, consequently, treatment can be denied to those who  refuse to change their behaviour.</p></blockquote>
<p>With the passage of the health care reform bill, we&#8217;ve already slipped about  <em>halfway</em> down this particular slope.  Never mind smokers, Sasha, the  official nationalization of this sector now means that all sorts of bad habits  are guaranteed to affect everyone in the country because the government insists  on it.</p>
<p>And this is different from insurance companies charging more for smokers or  young drivers or people who sky dive.  Insurance companies can&#8217;t make these  choices illegal; they can only charge you more for the higher risk you are  asking them to take on.  The government, however, has far, far more power at  hand.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about freedom, and it&#8217;s being eroded away.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>&#8220;Social Justice&#8221; vs Social Justice (or Why Glenn Beck Didn&#8217;t Say What You May Think He Said)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m just as <a href="http://stonescryout.org/?p=3047#comment-5335">&#8220;avid&#8221; a fan of Glenn  Beck</a> as my co-group-blogger Rusty (i.e. only really catch him on the  occasional web snippet), I have read the transcript of his &#8220;social justice&#8221;  rant, and I really don&#8217;t think Beck said what his detractors say he said.</p>
<p>Beck was talking about churches/denominations for whom one of their driving  forces is implementing aid to the poor and oppressed via government force, and  seem to think that almost every time Jesus opened His mouth He was speaking  economics.  (I&#8217;ve seen the parable of the sower turned into one where the birds  taking away the seed were priests taking temple tithes and tribute, and the  thorns choking out the seed were the Roman tax collectors stealing from these  humble farmers.  Jesus said plainly what He meant, but some can still wrangle an  economic message out of it they find more palatable.)  The term &#8220;social justice&#8221;  seems to figure prominently in these forms of theology, and Beck was just saying  that you should avoid them completely if you see that they do.</p>
<p>What his critics are doing are quoting Bible verses that show we should help  the poor.  Thing is, I don&#8217;t think Beck would disagree, and it doesn&#8217;t appear at  all that he was saying he disagreed.  What he was saying is that churches where  the phrases &#8220;social justice&#8221; and &#8220;economic justice&#8221; figure prominently are the  ones trying to &#8220;spread the wealth around&#8221; via legislation and are going to  bankrupt us in doing so; a political message.  Of the reports so far, <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WN/glenn-beck-social-justice-christians-rage-back-nazism/story?id=10085008">only  Hannah Siegel</a>, reporting for ABC news, even mentioned this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Stu Burguiere, executive producer at &#8220;The Glenn Beck Radio Program,&#8221; sought  to clarify Beck&#8217;s comments today.</p>
<p>&#8220;Like most Americans, Glenn strongly supports and believes in &#8216;social  justice&#8217; when it is defined as &#8216;good Christian charity,&#8217;&#8221; he said. &#8220;Glenn  strongly opposes when Rev. Wright and other leaders use &#8216;social justice&#8217; as a  euphemism for their real intention &#8212; redistribution of  wealth.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So Beck is <em>in favor</em> of the concept of social justice (without the  quotes) but against those who use that term to couch ends that he finds  immoral.</p>
<p>But the reactions from critics seem to miss this completely.  When Wallis  insinuates that Beck is lined up against Martin Luther King, Desmond Tutu and  Mother Teresa, or National Council of Churches President Rev. Canon Peg  Chemberlin says, &#8220;Justice is a concept throughout the scriptures&#8221;, they&#8217;re both  completely misrepresenting what Beck actually said.</p>
<p>Beck does need to clarify, on-air, that he <em>is</em> in favor of the  concept of social justice, though, if you fairly read his words, he never once  insinuated that he wasn&#8217;t in favor of giving to the poor; this clarification  would be for those who didn&#8217;t realize that the first time.  I understand that he  did just that recently, though I haven&#8217;t heard or read what he said yet.</p>
<p>Albert Mohler has the <a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/03/15/glenn-beck-social-justice-and-the-limits-of-public-discourse/">most  balanced analysis of this issue</a>.  Read the whole thing.  However, I want to  quote one bit from it, showing how many Beck critics really missed the point.   Mohler notes that Beck&#8217;s aims are political.  However&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>My concern is very different. As an evangelical Christian, my concern is the  primacy of the Gospel of Christ &#8212; the Gospel that reveals the power of God in  the salvation of sinners through the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus  Christ. The church&#8217;s main message must be that Gospel. The New Testament is  stunningly silent on any plan for governmental or social action. The apostles  launched no social reform movement. Instead, they preached the Gospel of Christ  and planted Gospel churches. Our task is to follow Christ&#8217;s command and the  example of the apostles.</p>
<p>There is more to that story, however. The church is not to adopt a social  reform platform as its message, but the faithful church, wherever it is found,  is itself a social reform movement precisely because it is populated by redeemed  sinners who are called to faithfulness in following Christ. The Gospel is not a  message of social salvation, but it does have social  implications.</p></blockquote>
<p>I grew up in the Salvation Army; a social services arm of the Christian  church if ever there was one.  But one that stays true to this concept of  creating social change by implementing the <em>Gospel</em>, not a government  program.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m just as <a href="http://stonescryout.org/?p=3047#comment-5335">&#8220;avid&#8221; a fan of Glenn  Beck</a> as my co-group-blogger Rusty (i.e. only really catch him on the  occasional web snippet), I have read the transcript of his &#8220;social justice&#8221;  rant, and I really don&#8217;t think Beck said what his detractors say he said.</p>
<p>Beck was talking about churches/denominations for whom one of their driving  forces is implementing aid to the poor and oppressed via government force, and  seem to think that almost every time Jesus opened His mouth He was speaking  economics.  (I&#8217;ve seen the parable of the sower turned into one where the birds  taking away the seed were priests taking temple tithes and tribute, and the  thorns choking out the seed were the Roman tax collectors stealing from these  humble farmers.  Jesus said plainly what He meant, but some can still wrangle an  economic message out of it they find more palatable.)  The term &#8220;social justice&#8221;  seems to figure prominently in these forms of theology, and Beck was just saying  that you should avoid them completely if you see that they do.</p>
<p>What his critics are doing are quoting Bible verses that show we should help  the poor.  Thing is, I don&#8217;t think Beck would disagree, and it doesn&#8217;t appear at  all that he was saying he disagreed.  What he was saying is that churches where  the phrases &#8220;social justice&#8221; and &#8220;economic justice&#8221; figure prominently are the  ones trying to &#8220;spread the wealth around&#8221; via legislation and are going to  bankrupt us in doing so; a political message.  Of the reports so far, <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WN/glenn-beck-social-justice-christians-rage-back-nazism/story?id=10085008">only  Hannah Siegel</a>, reporting for ABC news, even mentioned this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Stu Burguiere, executive producer at &#8220;The Glenn Beck Radio Program,&#8221; sought  to clarify Beck&#8217;s comments today.</p>
<p>&#8220;Like most Americans, Glenn strongly supports and believes in &#8216;social  justice&#8217; when it is defined as &#8216;good Christian charity,&#8217;&#8221; he said. &#8220;Glenn  strongly opposes when Rev. Wright and other leaders use &#8216;social justice&#8217; as a  euphemism for their real intention &#8212; redistribution of  wealth.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So Beck is <em>in favor</em> of the concept of social justice (without the  quotes) but against those who use that term to couch ends that he finds  immoral.</p>
<p>But the reactions from critics seem to miss this completely.  When Wallis  insinuates that Beck is lined up against Martin Luther King, Desmond Tutu and  Mother Teresa, or National Council of Churches President Rev. Canon Peg  Chemberlin says, &#8220;Justice is a concept throughout the scriptures&#8221;, they&#8217;re both  completely misrepresenting what Beck actually said.</p>
<p>Beck does need to clarify, on-air, that he <em>is</em> in favor of the  concept of social justice, though, if you fairly read his words, he never once  insinuated that he wasn&#8217;t in favor of giving to the poor; this clarification  would be for those who didn&#8217;t realize that the first time.  I understand that he  did just that recently, though I haven&#8217;t heard or read what he said yet.</p>
<p>Albert Mohler has the <a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/03/15/glenn-beck-social-justice-and-the-limits-of-public-discourse/">most  balanced analysis of this issue</a>.  Read the whole thing.  However, I want to  quote one bit from it, showing how many Beck critics really missed the point.   Mohler notes that Beck&#8217;s aims are political.  However&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>My concern is very different. As an evangelical Christian, my concern is the  primacy of the Gospel of Christ &#8212; the Gospel that reveals the power of God in  the salvation of sinners through the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus  Christ. The church&#8217;s main message must be that Gospel. The New Testament is  stunningly silent on any plan for governmental or social action. The apostles  launched no social reform movement. Instead, they preached the Gospel of Christ  and planted Gospel churches. Our task is to follow Christ&#8217;s command and the  example of the apostles.</p>
<p>There is more to that story, however. The church is not to adopt a social  reform platform as its message, but the faithful church, wherever it is found,  is itself a social reform movement precisely because it is populated by redeemed  sinners who are called to faithfulness in following Christ. The Gospel is not a  message of social salvation, but it does have social  implications.</p></blockquote>
<p>I grew up in the Salvation Army; a social services arm of the Christian  church if ever there was one.  But one that stays true to this concept of  creating social change by implementing the <em>Gospel</em>, not a government  program.</p>
<p><em>Doug Payton blogs at <a href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/">Considerettes.</a></em></p>
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		<title>A 50% + 1 Majority: Then and Now</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dpayton/2010/03/03/a-50-1-majority-then-and-now/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Should something as huge as the remaking of the healthcare system in America be done in such a &#8220;unipartisan&#8221; manner?  Ask Barack Obama.  <a href="http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-american-agenda-flashback-dems-should-not-pass-healthcare-with-a-50-plus-1-strategy">That was then</a>:</p>
<p align="center"><object width="480" height="360"><param name="src" value="http://blip.tv/play/hJNRgcqadgI%2Em4v" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="480" height="360" src="http://blip.tv/play/hJNRgcqadgI%2Em4v"></embed></object></p>
<p align="left">And <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/03/obama-democrats-will-use-reconciliation-to-pass-senate-health-care-bill.html">this is now</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p align="left">White House officials tell ABC News that in his remarks tomorrow President Obama will indicate a willingness to work with Republicans on some issue to get a health care reform bill passed but will suggest that if it is necessary, Democrats will use the controversial &#8220;reconciliation&#8221; rules requiring only 51 Senate votes to pass the &#8220;fix&#8221; to the Senate bill, as opposed to the 60 votes to stop a filibuster and proceed to a vote on a bill.</p>
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<p align="left">So then, it requires a &#8220;sizeable majority&#8221; so long as it doesn&#8217;t take too long.  Then all bets are off.  Gotcha.</p>
<p align="left">There are those who say that our government is &#8220;us&#8221;, so to speak, and thus if health care reform passes, it&#8217;s because we wanted it.  Well, except that a <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform">majority of us don&#8217;t</a>.  This isn&#8217;t representative government.  Yes, the general idea did enamor more folks when it first hit Congress, but the more people know about it, the less they have wanted it.  With one exception, opposition to it has been over 50% since the middle of September, and peaked over 50% often before that.</p>
<p align="left">Most of us don&#8217;t want this monstrosity.  But Obama is more than willing to shove aside his principles of good governance, and do precisely what he accused Bush and Rove of, in order to get his way.  Representative government indeed.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should something as huge as the remaking of the healthcare system in America be done in such a &#8220;unipartisan&#8221; manner?  Ask Barack Obama.  <a href="http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-american-agenda-flashback-dems-should-not-pass-healthcare-with-a-50-plus-1-strategy">That was then</a>:</p>
<p align="center"><object width="480" height="360"><param name="src" value="http://blip.tv/play/hJNRgcqadgI%2Em4v" /><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="480" height="360" src="http://blip.tv/play/hJNRgcqadgI%2Em4v"></embed></object></p>
<p align="left">And <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/03/obama-democrats-will-use-reconciliation-to-pass-senate-health-care-bill.html">this is now</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p align="left">White House officials tell ABC News that in his remarks tomorrow President Obama will indicate a willingness to work with Republicans on some issue to get a health care reform bill passed but will suggest that if it is necessary, Democrats will use the controversial &#8220;reconciliation&#8221; rules requiring only 51 Senate votes to pass the &#8220;fix&#8221; to the Senate bill, as opposed to the 60 votes to stop a filibuster and proceed to a vote on a bill.</p>
</blockquote>
<p align="left">So then, it requires a &#8220;sizeable majority&#8221; so long as it doesn&#8217;t take too long.  Then all bets are off.  Gotcha.</p>
<p align="left">There are those who say that our government is &#8220;us&#8221;, so to speak, and thus if health care reform passes, it&#8217;s because we wanted it.  Well, except that a <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform">majority of us don&#8217;t</a>.  This isn&#8217;t representative government.  Yes, the general idea did enamor more folks when it first hit Congress, but the more people know about it, the less they have wanted it.  With one exception, opposition to it has been over 50% since the middle of September, and peaked over 50% often before that.</p>
<p align="left">Most of us don&#8217;t want this monstrosity.  But Obama is more than willing to shove aside his principles of good governance, and do precisely what he accused Bush and Rove of, in order to get his way.  Representative government indeed.</p>
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