IF true, there are enough die-hard constitutionalists out there to make an issue of it, especially since they are the ones more likely to have guns.

Who knows what the military might do, since they would have to recognize a legitimate Commander in Chief.

“Shields up Sulu…”

If there is a legal problem, and Sen Obama wins, there’s time to deal with it.

interesting part is that instead of just turning over the documents, he and the DNC file to dismiss.

Now it could be that they are trying to get Republicans involved and then produce the documents and make them look bad.

Or it could be there is something on the documents he would rather not have known.

Either way, I doubt we will ever know.

later

Another thing to consider is, in the unlikely event BHO is found to be ineligible, what to do with the votes that have already been cast during the early voting process? What a mess.

wouldn’t that just make the second-place finisher the winner? Any arguments that the election would have been “unfair” would be moot, as Democrats could/should have vetted this long before selecting HIM as their candidate.

but got lost in all the legal mumble jumbo. Thanks for spelling it out clearly.

The country’s economy goes into the toliet and Obama says, “I’ll call ya”. But then he suspends his campaign to go to Hawaii? It sounded fishy when I first heard it.

If Obama’s grandmother is truly sick or hurt, I do hope she gets well soon.

suit against Barack demanding that we see his birth certificate, medical records, college transcripts, etc…..
Dear Lord, if we had to learn about Jack Ryan’s sex life, surely we deserve to know if Barack is a natural born citizen, not a recovering druggy, and at the least, somewhat intellegent. No?

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This is very important, please take the time to read it.
This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives my husband crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking ‘where did the money come from for Obama’. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans.
I started looking into Obama’s life.
Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ’round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question –
Where did he get the money for this trip?
Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack – not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap! to say the least.
Where did he get money for tuition?
Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association’. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School?
Where did he get the money for Law School?
More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented ‘Rezar’ which Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ‘seed money’ for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans –
Where did he get the money for the property?
On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy?
On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was ‘sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’.
Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those ‘small’ Internet campaign contribution for Obama.
Where is that money coming from?
The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?
And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, ‘he made a mistake’. Some mistake!
All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it – Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times – Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times – September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.
Now the BIG question – If I was able to find out all this information on my own,
Why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this?
A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear – ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!

He has answered that one for me anyway (57 states). You are right about Ryan. Sad truth about Ryan was that he was beating “The One” in the polls before his downfall. What the heck happened to the repub party in Illinois? I never thought seriously about moving but I might have to re-consider it. Most of the politicians here are unbelievably corrupt. And the the ones that aren’t corrupt are spectacularly inept. That explains why Illinois has the highest sales tax in the nation. Terrible public schools in Chicago. High crime rate. We are near the bottom in job creation in the U.S. And, on top of all that, it gets awfully cold here in the winter.

… that the question of Obama’s citizenship was all just so much nonsense. But the longer it goes on, and the more Obama stonewalls, the more I think there may be something to it.

Obama could resolve this in seconds with one document but he does everything possible to avoid answering the question. Simply provide the document to the judge in Philadelphia, the judge dismisses the suit, and the guys in the white coats come and take Berg off to someplace where he can’t harm himself; end of discussion. Does he actually believe he is so special that he need not clarify the matter, that The One™ can ignore the courts? Does he hold the people of the nation he would govern in such contempt that their rights do not matter as much as his victory?

Does he actually believe that if elected and it turns out that he is not a citizen by birth that he will be actually be allowed to take office anyway? Or is he counting on the threats of civil unrest from his supporters that the government will acquiesce to his election? There *must *be enough Democrats and Republicans in Congress that respect the Constitution that they would nullify his election; if there are not then this entire question is moot, the nation is simply finished.

Does he actually believe that the definition of citizen by birth is so nebulous that the Supreme Court could not make a decision?

One document, that’s all, one document.

No problem!

So don’t get too excited about this going anywhere, assuming there is anything to go anywhere.

And where is Big Brobama right now as we write? Still in Hawaii?

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this mean?

Thanks.

Bush NG docs: “Fake but accurate”

Obama’s BC: “Fake but accurate”

If he had responded to the filing he would have been put in the position of answering questions in the public domain (possibly) and that is something I feel he would avoid at all costs.

So, another way to scoot through this is to run out the clock in the hope that no one notices. Now, if another party starts to put this under a microscope it may be reaching a critical mass where it cannot be swept under the rug.

Ergo, the reason to visit the sick Grandmother. It has all the makings of being subterfuge.

From a common sense approach, if there is no pony in the pile of manure, why take the chance to stir it up? Otherwise, perhaps the pony is there waiting to be found.

There are so many good talking points being made on here. Hinz- Only been here a relatively short amount of time so if I see good points being made and later find out they are Bidenized (Plagarized) then I certainly understand your point of view. I would be upset if someone took what I wrote as their own creation too. Especially if it is the result of time-consuming investigation. I do love this site because I learn something new every day.

I have to say that, like many other people who have posted, I have given the allegations that Obama was born abroad little credence until this week. Philip Berg is clearly a crackpot; I had not heard of this Andy Martin before today but it appears that he’s an even bigger crank. So, a couple of headcases are challenging Obama’s birthplace stringing together some mildly suspicious information. Big deal. Cranks and conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen.

Granted, I’ve never understood why Obama would not just release a paper copy of his birth certificate and put the matter to rest. But, there are many other possible reasons for this. Still, nothing much to get excited about.

But then suddenly he announces this impromptu, inexplicable trip to Hawaii in the middle of the campaign and just as polls appear to be tightening; just as “Joe the Plumber”, Palin’s attacks and Biden’s gaffes all seem to be having an impact. This certainly seems to not be the best time to stop campaigning for a day or two.

His grandmother is sick? Okay, possibly. But is she at death’s door? Is she so ill that she will not likely survive for two weeks, when he’ll have more time? (Even if elected, he can certainly justify taking a couple days then more than now). It doesn’t sound like it.

Could there actually be something to the Martin/Berg accusations? As Hinz has said even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then.

An alternative (and very plausible) explanation: there is truly nothing to the accusations, Obama was born in Hawaii and can prove it easily. But, he’s attempting to use this story as bait; woo mainstream conservatives and Republicans into running with it (maybe even woo Palin into mentioning it) then dramatically produce the birth certificate and give a heart-felt speech on how scurrilous, insane and baseless the charges were and how ALL Republicans are out to destroy him; how he’s an innocent victim because he had a foreign father, yada, yada, yada. The MSM will go crazy and THAT will be his October Surprise. McCain would be finished.

Given this, it is extremely important that all conservative journalists, all Republican politicians and especially McCain and Palin AND everyone associated with them avoid this story like the plague. Let the two Hillaryite nutcases do the fighting. If there is something to their accusations, McCain will benefit by default. But, please, for the love of God, the GOP MUST NOT get in the middle of it.

the truth. But someday, a freezer in Hawiaii will be found with a mysterious stash of cash in it.

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for anything else on this matter. If Berg’s allegations are true and Obama wins the election, he would have the power to make any changes to make himself legitimate.
Like so many others, I have to wonder why Obama never responded to the lawsuit. Why is it that the one who preaches us about the politics of change has so many shad associations and a shadowy past we can’t really uncover.
I also find it odd that Obama was willing to drop everything and see grandma back in Hawaii, after pretty much calling her a racist and throwin her under the bus. McCain postponed his campaign (and not ridiculed for it, but notice how Obama hasn’t gotten any scrutiny for going to Hawaii) for an economic crisis, and Obama goes to see his racist grandmother?
As someone else stated, if she truly is sick, I hope she gets better soon. But now that the timing of the lawsuit to respond has expired, I do find this a little fishy indeed.

That unlike a famous Illinois Statesman of yore, you can fool all of the people all of the time? or more to the point in this case, hoodwink them?

Dear really stupid people who posted a lot of nonsense upthread about this matter. If he had a legit birth certificate, he would not have posted an obvious forgery online and he would have supplied it to the court a long time ago.

He does not have one, he was born in Kenya. How many white women did his family members in Kenya watch give birth to a black baby? Ya think they might have remembered it?

Why Obama has just not produced the BC & put this to rest?

Is this a distraction from other issues? As someone else eloquently pointed out, are they setting some kind of trap for a Republican? Or are they just not very organized?

It does open Obama up to a Nov. 1 surprise from an enterprising 527 organization.

Obama would take this opportunity, seeing his Ailing Grandmother ( God Bless Her), as a Media PR event.

I have not heard anything. Anyone?

the Indonensia question. Because he still went to school there. And they still denied dual-citizenship. So when did his citizenship get revoked, or what dispensation was granted? And where is the evidence for it?

No, if this was a simple answer, it would’ve been given and not wrapped in motions.

FactCheck.org debunked this with a thorough vetting. Please put your tin foil hats back in the closet and start campaigning for your candidate else you will have no one to blame but yourselves.

…two weeks? Chasing bogeymen? Sorry peeps, but I live in Napili, on Maui. I was in Honolulu a couple of months ago researching the archives of The Honolulu Advertiser for a piece I’m writing and decided to check the birth announcements (all back issues are on microfiche). Guess what? It’s there! The actual birth announcement of BHO on 40 year old microfiche! That’s why I allude to the tin foil hats. In the HOSPITAL WHEN YOU GIVE BIRTH you are asked if you want it published in the paper, free of charge and the only way to do this is by the HOSPITAL submitting the list of recent births to the newspaper after you give your permission. Get it? If I listen to you I would have to suspend my belief in what I saw with my own eyes. Look, I don’t have a dog in this race. They are both slimebags, IMHO. Why do you people insist on wasting the remaining two weeks on something that will get you NOWHERE!?

The law that specifies what constitutes a person as “natural born” retroactively and do you think the Supreme Court would overturn that law?

I doubt it. The Supreme Court gets its power from our consent. The constitution does NOT give the Supreme Court the right to declare laws unconstitutional. This is a power they took for themselves. The would not want to erode public support.

If (and that is a big if) certificate of birth lists no one as a father…than let’s just pick someone who is an American citizen and has been a “friend” of the family.

Has this fictional book a title?

How frustrating it must be to know that his father was not a Polygamist Muslim but (is) rather a Communist Pedophile…

And, I find it most ironic that, while Barack struggles hard to promote and secure abortion rights… were it not for the Pro-Life choice of his mother… he would never have been born.

Good thing she didn’t see her pregnancy, the result of an affair, as being “punished with a baby” or Barack never would have been born in time to make sure his daughters can abort his grandchildren if they decide they don’t want them.

If anyone wonders why BHO spent a majority of his formative years in a drug induced haze this would explain it. What a sad story. What a sad family. The next question would have to be did he ever get therapy to deal with this kind of life. If not, it’s never too late.

How has the fact checked birth certificate I’ve seen been debunked?

My instinct is to agree that this is some tinfoil hat stuff, on par with “Bush ordered 9/11.”

Like the next Prez of the US said in the last debate (and I will put it in CAPS for you and your ilk). BUSH IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008. And as for BHO’s intellectual prowess, sorry I am not in awe. He lost me with his 57 states comment. Is that a lack of geographical or mathematical genius?

And btw, based on your response I question whether you just “dabbled” in illegal substances.

If it was any one except Andy Martin, it might hold water.

Get a real journalist that doesnt clog the legal system with cases that the judge and prosecution were jews with vendettas against him.

Thats some tinfoil hat [redacted].

Life not treating you fair, sissy Mary?

I just get so tired of hearing Bush this and Bush that.

Hot Air and Right Wing News have this: scan of the newspaper at the time of his birth. What does it say?

Printing something in a newspaper does not make it gospel.
Nor would a fake birth certificate. I don’t think we will find the truth. The only truth I know is that Barack Obama the man running for president of YOUR United States is a pathlogical liar and nothing anyone says or does will derail his blind ambition.
From his associations to his record, I find NOTHING redeeming about him as a politician or a man.
If Barack is defeated then we must keep the pressure on him so that he cannot rise up again.

Barry is really sad about all this.
I mean here he is on the Ellen Show ,heartbreaking I tell ya.

But don’t you think if Obama were as smart as he pretends to be he would have taken extra care to cross the t’s and dot the i’s? At least bury them like a good Chicago politician.
The Clinton’s can keep records from going public for decades so what makes us think Obama can’t do the same? At least try.

I’d like more than Andy Martin’s word that he’s solved the mystery.

I’d like to see these birth records put before the public/press just as John McCain’s were. If it turns out Obama’s a citizen (regardless of parentage) then fine — this issue is over.

Mr. Martin’s dramatic announcement on the courthouse steps isn’t proof of anything.

I did not read your blog until I posted a question regarding this info on my site. I email yours to my congressman and Rush asking for more action and exposure.
lucyinpa

I did not read your blog until I posted a question regarding this info on my site. I email yours to my congressman and Rush asking for more action and exposure.
lucyinpa

I did not read your blog until I posted a question regarding this info on my site. I email yours to my congressman and Rush asking for more action and exposure.
lucyinpa

and Ms Dunham were in the same grid square 9 months prior to Barry’s birth?

Somebody needs to get to the bottom of this.

Say Obama is determined not to be a natural born citizen. Doesn’t matter when it happens.

Say he wins the election in November. Then he wins when the EC votes in December. Come January, the EC votes are presented to the congress for confirmation. Republicans can challenge every state in which Obama wins electoral votes. Democrats, if they hold the majority in both houses, will then vote the challenges all down and vote to accept the results.

The 20th amendment says:

“if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified;”

The Dem controlled house and senate then pass a law saying that Barack Obama is a natural born citizen, or redefine natural born citizen retroactively so that it includes Barack Obama. They time the passage of this bill so that it doesn’t get sent to the president until 12:01PM on Jan 20.

Acting-president Joe Biden signs the billl, and Barack Obama automatically becomes president.

I remember a little more than 10 years ago, when my grandfather was dying, we were told the end was coming. My family made plans to go back to Virginia to see him when we received the news. Unfortunately, he didn’t live much longer past the phone call we received. We were on a plane the very next morning to Virginia, and my brother did the same from Wisconsin.
In other words, we didn’t announce to the world he was gravely ill, say we were going to rush to see hiim, then waited three, four, or five days to get there. That’s just me, and I can only imagine that’s what most other people would do.
Look, if the poor woman is in poor health, I wish the best for her. I truly do. But looking at Obama’s past and how shady it is, this isn’t adding up. I won’t claim to think he’s a Muslim, or that he wasn’t born in the United State, or even that he’s an illegitimate child of someone else. But if you look at the facts here; his website just posted a pretty suspicious birth certificate, and the only medical record we have is a one page letter from his physician saying he’s in good health, then what is he hiding?
And why hasn’t this hit the airwaves? Even if it does sound kooky, it should be out there. I mean CBS was knowingly putting fake documents out there to get Kerry elected, and we can’t have one mention of this in the press?

Are you saying the most famous man in the world, and his Secret Service detail, are going to go address a Hawaii court, in secret?

Berg is a Dem con job to give Conservatives false hope and distract them from looking into legitimate issues, like his school ties and records.

Martin just wants to sell books.

Same with Corsi.

Trust me. No one wants to see Obama derailed more than I do, but this is all nonsense.

Cynical Optimist

These conspiracy theories about Obama’s citizenship or his religion are an embarassment to our party.

First, like most conspiracy theories, they are just whack doodle. As if a secret of this magnitude could be kept, when countless people have access to the records in Hawaii or even to back issues of newspapers. If it were true, it would have been front-page news, not the stuff of spammer emails.

Second, it would be a sad day in America if these kinds of underhanded tactics actually determined the course of an election. Spreading disinformation like this is every bit as bad as the voter registration fraud committed by ACORN.

It embarasses the entire Republican party when a few people take this low road, when there are so many important issues and problems that need to be discussed and debated.

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He contends that when Obama travelled to Pakistan in 1981 he did it using his Indonesian passport. Which, Berg went on to say, makes sense because in 1981 travel for American citizens to Pakistan was forbidden. Seems BHO at least travelled out of the country as an Indonesian citizen. I don’t know why BHO wouldn’t address this lawsuit. Produce the BC and show what a loon Berg is. Unless it’s because BHO doesn’t have one.

Dave I have thought for several weeks that this whole debacle especially with the DNC helping him prevent opening the records could possibly follow two avenues.

First, the Clinton weary Dems nominate a candidate who can messmerize people into electing him. So they crash the Hillary candidacy which they did, (even the Fl and Mich deal was fake as they ended up seating ALL of the delegates who if counted initially would have given Hillary the nod), then they nominate a well known DNC Washington insider as VP, Biden.

So after the election and after electors vote in December Obama is found to not be eligable to be President under the Constitution which leaglly will allow it to fall to Biden. They get their Democrat President, the DNC denies any knowledge of wrong doing. The media plays it down as they are in the DNC tank. Biden takes the oath with possibly Hillary as his VP and then pardons Obama who goes back to being a community organizer.

While it sounds far fetched it is becoming more and more possible with each report of the birth certifacate manueverings and this type of move is not neyond the Dems.

1) Why not end this with a public display of his health records and birth certificate?

2) If his grandmother is dying, why not bring her great grand kids and wife with him to see her one last time?

This does not seem above board to me.

However, Frank Marshall is a scandal in and of itself, according to National Enquirer – of course, we know how reliable that rag is.

1.) Dump Palin for Lieberman – instant gratification for those like me that view Palin as woefully inadequate to assume the duties of POTUS.
2.) Denounce the Bush Presidency as an abject failure. Call him by his name, not just say “the last eight years”.
3.) Promise to name at least four Dems to his Cabinet. There are plenty of right of center Dems that can do the job with distinction.
4.) Withdraw troops from Iraq. No country has ever “won” an occupation, this hasn’t been a “war” since late 2003.
5.) Appoint Bill Clinton & GHWB as “Ambassadors at Large”, and make it a Cabinet Position.

A shake up like this would would have the MSM covering the McCain campaign like white on rice. Never mind spending anymore ad dollars. Yes, it would not be to everyone’s liking. But, this is McCains’ last chance. I say, F**K it, roll the dice.

Promise 4 dems in the cabinet? How long have you been following politics?

Democrats don’t pay any attention to the Constitution.

Berg now claims to have an audio tape of Obama’s grandmother acknowledging his Kenyan birth.

*But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged and that he has a tape recording he will soon release.

“This has been a real sham he’s pulled off for the last 20 months,” Berg told Savage. “I’ll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States.”

He said the telephone call was from Obama’s paternal grandmother affirming she “was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961.”

Berg said he believed it also was a complication that Obama’s mother divorced his father, married and moved to Indonesia for several years and Obama attended school there at a time when, Berg said, only Indonesia citizens were allowed in schools. Records that are available from Indonesia revealed Obama was registered in school as Barry Soetoro, and his religion was listed as Islam.

When Obama later returned to Hawaii, within the United States, there should have been a government document affirming his citizenship, but that also cannot be found. If that was not processed properly, Berg said, Obama would be in a situation even worse than not being a natural-born citizen.

“If he didn’t go through immigration, he now is illegal and has been an illegal alien. He couldn’t even hold the position of senator for Illinois,” Berg said.

Further, Berg said he suspected Obama’s college records may indicate he received aid as a foreigner, and that’s why those records have been withheld by the campaign.

“I really think it’s because it probably indicates he’s from Kenya, or Indonesia, or received foreign aid,” Berg said.

“I feel very confident saying these things,” Berg told Savage.*

Snopes says FALSE

In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg’s allegations of harm were “too vague and too attenuated” to confer standing on him or any other voters.

Surrick ruled that Berg’s attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were “frivolous and not worthy of discussion.”

The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did “not constitute an injury in fact” and Berg’s arguments to the contrary “ventured into the unreasonable.”

An then we have Anti-semite “internet journalist” Andy Martin, the guy who called a judge a “crooked, slimy Jew” whne he wasn’t busy spreading rumors about Obama the Muslim Manchurian candidate.

Good grief – isn’t this kind of sludge better tended too by the freaks at FreeRepublic?

whether Obama is or is not a citizen by birth.

I do know that in addition to his socialism, his lying, his attempts to rig the election, I am offended by his arrogance; an arrogance that assumes that he has no obligation to prove to the people he would lead that the concerns are unfounded.

In summer her health was okay. See new reports on the trip. Also, I read up on some fact checks. Obama has released multiple personal documents, and they all check out with everything he has ever said. Andy Martin is little more credible than Berg.
j.r.

Where Obama was born does not matter. The only law that matters to me on this issue is American law.

American law is clear, if one of the parents is an American citizen then the child is an American citizen.

The only possible way that Obama could be ineligible for the presidency by not being a citizen would be if during his stay in Indonesia his legal guardians (mother and step-father) decided to repudiate his American citizenship (supposedly in favor of Indonesian citizenship).

I see no reason for his parents to do such a thing. American citizenship is highly prized and would not be deliberately endangered be any rational person.

The argument being made seems to be that Obama’s adoption automatically repudiates his citizenship. I do not believe this follows under American law (I could care less what Indonesian law says).

Therefor, as much as I want Obama to lose I do not believe there is any significant challenge to his legal eligibility for the Presidency.

That said, I think it is entirely reasonable to expect Obama to produce a certified birth certificate. After all, the government expects me to do so for far less important things then determining eligibility to be President.

I just don’t see there being any fire, no matter how much people are yelling that they see smoke.

I am very concerned about what BHO has said about how he would select supreme court justices. That is what is scary.

Although many questions surrounded it. Politifact has found it to be genuine. Interesting read, I have posted the url.

http://tinyurl.com/5vrus3

yOU HAVE GOT TO STOP THIS !!!!!
AS OF RIGHT NOW THE TRANSITIONAL TEAMS OF BOTH CAMPAIGNS ARE BEING VETTED BY THE FBI FOR THE NEXT STAFF OF THE WHITE HOUSE-WHEN YOU RUN FOR PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE ,YOU ARE VETTED THRU THE FBI-THE LAWYERS CASE ,WHO WAS A NUT JOB,IN PA WAS THROWN OUT OF COURT,WHILE THE JUDGE LAUGHed—Do you honestly think that obama was in Hawaii with secret service and a plane filled with reporters and he walked into a court to stop a case or file papers in front of hundreds of local employees -and no one noticed?????Please people ,stop the desperateness you are showing !!!!!!!

I have several friends who work at the east-west center at the University of Hawaii… and most of them remember this event— Even in the racially mixed and diverse culture that defines Hawaii, The union between Barack’s mother and father was an event of note… These were two relatively poor people who married and propogated with little support from either side of the family— they did not have the monetary resources to travel back to Africa and I have heard several first hand accounts from friends at the East-West center about how the young couple was treated when Barack was born… It is fine to reject Barack’s ideas of governance, but to try and discredit him about his American birth is ludicrous and for the allegations to be true would require that literally hundreds of people in Hawaii today would be witholding the truth… this is simply not plausible and further discredits legitimate attacks on Barack’s policies and character.

the notion that BHO was raised in near poverty is laughable. He, by his own account, was raised by his maternal Grandmother. She is a former VP of a bank and a well-respected businesswoman in Hawaii. So let’s put this notion of “POOR ol Barack” to rest. I do agree that there are a multitude of opportunities to point out BHO’s lack of character and his propensity to choose to associate himself with the fringe elements of his party as well as convicted felons, and leftist radicals.