Update: Fox news is reporting that Obama’s pollster is confirming the results discussed here. In a memo sent to the Florida ground operation, he confirms that the polls are tightening up and that GOTV operations are critical and in need of resources in Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, and Virginia. He says that resources are less of a problem in Pennsylvania. When contacted by Fox, he confirmed the McCain release, “McCain is right”.
I’m going to try and pull together a lot of different threads in this Diary entry, to give a sense of where this election is heading. As most of you know, I’ve been trying to be cautiously optimistic, without being blinded by false hopes. That is always a difficult challenge, and I think I’ve maintained that balance so far.
Let’s begin with the a memo released by the McCain campaign from their internal pollster. This has been picked up by at least The Hill and Fox. Remember, this is a release from the McCain campaign itself, so they have a reason for doing it. As for the memo itself, I can make arguments in my head for it being overly optimistic or overly pessimistic. But I have a hard time believing it can be too far from the truth, given that a polling firm “for hire” is putting its name on it. They want to have work after the election too.
There is a lot of information in this memo, so let me try to break it down into the important points:
1) The turnout for this election is going to be massive. We could be looking at 130 million voters:
Public Opinion Strategies has been using a 1 to 10 scale to help look at self-described interest in the election since 1993. In 1996, in our last track, 48% of voters described their interest in the election as a 10. In 2000, the last track was 54% saying 10. Remarkably, in 2004, our last track had self-described 10s at 75% of the electorate. You need to understand we are witnessing a day-to-day trend of serious magnitude as self-described 10s increase in every roll. Last night, 81% of voters described their interest in this election as a 10! Wow.
How is this going to effect the election? Well there are several factors in the election that have been driven by the turnout models. First, the public polls have been assuming a giant surge in Democrat voters with the Black, Youth, Newly registered (ACORN cheaters), and enthusiastic Democrat voters. But in a turnout model of this size, those factors are muted by the fact that the GOP base is also turning out in their 2004 levels, and maybe even higher than 2004. The practical effect is that Party ID advantage should be less than the +3 Dem in 2006, and might approach the +0 of 2004. The memo confirms this analysis:
My own view and our own weights in our surveys reflect a belief that African American turn-out will be at historic levels, there will be a significant boost with voters 18 to 29 years old, yet the overall high level of turn-out will begin to mute the increase in the percentage these sub-groups represent in the overall electorate.
2) Undecided’s are going to break to McCain.
There are several indicators here that point in this direction. Unlike previous elections, the Black vote being reflected in the polls includes no undecideds:
Typically a Republican candidate trails among African Americans on a survey by a margin of something like 78% to 14%. As a firm, we consistently warn our clients that on Election Day, they will underperform their polling margins with African American voters. If their tracking says 78% – 18%, they should expect to only carry 8% of the African American vote, as the Democrat candidate will typically carry more than 90% of the African American vote. Senator Obama’s numbers are different than anything we have ever seen before among African Americans. In most polls, McCain is losing these African American voters by margins like 97% to 1%.
This is a very significant point. A large block of undecideds from previous elections are not there in this election. This block typically will break toward the Democrat in most elections, but they are already built into Obama’s commitment. Ed Rendell made a point yesterday that I also thought of last night. In this election Obama is the incumbent.
Take the one poll that says 52-41 — that’s 11 points. There are seven points [of] undecideds. If there’s an incumbent, generally the undecideds won’t vote for the incumbent. Sen. Obama has been the ‘incumbent’ for a while.
The old saying is “undecideds break toward the challenger”. Well we have been told for almost a year now that the Democrat candidate will be the President. For almost 5 months, Obama has been acting as the President Elect. Voters looking at someone with this much exposure, while Bush has been completely absent from the media, are seeing Obama in the same light they typically view incumbents.
The memo looks further at these undecideds, and characterizes them:
Functionally, this means the only undecided/refuse to respond voters are white and Latino. So, in a state like Indiana where he has recently led Senator McCain, in most tracks, Senator Obama is at 46% to 47% of the vote. I am becoming increasingly persuaded it will be very difficult for Senator Obama to perform much above his percentage of the vote in a state.
So if you look at polls, you need to start thinking that Obama’s top line number is going to be pretty close to his actual vote.
3) Democrats are crossing over to vote McCain in much higher percentage that Republicans are crossing over for Obama.
The memo addresses this factor when looking at general trends:
We are beginning to once again get over a 20% chunk of the vote among soft Democrats. Importantly as well, our long identified target of Walmart women – those women without a college degree in households under $60,000 a year in income are also swinging back solidly in our direction. Finally, in terms of critical improvement, even as this track shows more Republicans voting for us than Democrats supporting Obama, we are witnessing an impressive pop with Independent voters.
This tracks well with what I noted last night regarding the early voting in Nevada. While the numbers are difficult to ascertain, there is clearly a significant advantage for McCain in crossover support. Ed Rendell points out something that I find very interesting, and something I noted the other day when I realized that Obama never campaigned in the swing areas of Florida. He has only campaigned in Miami.
Obama famously dissed smalltown Pennsylvanians in remarks last April to wealthy donors in San Francisco, calling them anti-immigrant and “bitter” and saying “they cling to guns and religion.” Still, the Obama campaign heeded Rendell. Sen. Obama returned to Pennsylvania Monday to campaign — but he won’t be visiting small towns in the Bitterlands. Instead, he’ll stick to more urban locales. Monday night, he was in Pittsburgh. Today, he’ll be in Delaware County.
Remember, Obama is on record as saying small towns bore him. The practical effect of his campaign decision is that he is not trying to hold onto the rural Democrat base. He has written that off, and is trying to instead beef up support in the Blue districts that voted for Kerry in 2004. Contrast this to McCain and Palin that have been going to Pittsburgh, Harrisburg and Bucks County. They are campaigning in both Blue and Red districts. This matches up well with the post I made yesterday about the PUMA ground game in Pennsylvania.
4) The Liberal/Socialist label is sticking to Obama.
I stated back in September that the country will ultimately decide whether it wants to move toward Socialism or prefers to retain its roots in individual Liberty and Capitalism. The concern at the time was that with the blatant media bias, the voters weren’t going to get the true picture of Obama.
Well they have gotten that picture, and as I said back when the Joe the Plumber thing hit, Joe has become this election’s version of the Swift Boat guys. This is borne out by the McCain internal polling:
We are tracking how much people have seen, read, or heard about a number of thematic elements from both campaigns, including the false charges about Senator McCains health care plan, being out of touch on the economy, and the Obamas campaign charges about Medicare. At the same time, we are testing awareness of Joe the Plumber, Senators Bidens quote about his own running mate being so inexperienced it invites being tested by our enemies around the world, and Obamas proposals that will raise federal spending by a trillion dollars. This has been the week where Joe the Plumber has literally become a household name. An astounding 59% of voters in these battleground states have heard a lot about this story, 83% have heard a lot or some about this episode. The 59% a lot dwarfs the other stories/thematic elements we are tracking this week.
This is critical, the final week of the election, when everyone finally finished gathering the information that they need to make their decision, was dominated by the themes that McCain wanted, not Obama. This is huge. Look at the polling results:
In our tracking, now 59% of battleground voters describe Senator Obama as being a liberal, a percentage that is higher than previous Democrat losers Gore/Kerry, and significantly higher than for President Clinton and President Carter. A majority (54%) of voters profile as saying Senator Obama is more liberal than they see themselves politically.
So the voters now have the information they need. They recognize Obama is a liberal, and they consider him to be more liberal than they are. If this country votes for Obama next week, it actually will be confirmation that Socialism is a desired (or at least acceptable) outcome.
I think that even our resident Democrats can recognize that such a result would be without historical precedent.
So we still have Obama’s infomercial tonight, which is reminding me a lot of Perot in 1992. He is going to try and get the campaign back onto the topics that work in his favor. The question is whether or not anyone cares at this point. It is hard to believe that anyone in the country has not been exposed to information about Obama, given the half trillion dollars he has spent on advertizing.
I think that the nature of the election is now pretty much set, unless something of similar magnitude to the Bush DUI can be dropped on McCain. But all the outstanding bombshells appear to be targeted at Obama, and he is working overtime trying to keep them buried.
My personal feeling is that McCain’s pollster is trying to not get anyone’s hopes up, and keep them working hard. On Tuesday, the American People will once again prove their exceptionalism. They will elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.
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PaRep (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 8:54AM EST (link).
Also Scooter rasmussen has it down to a 3 point lead for Obama
PaRep (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:03AM EST (link).
Wasn't the Rasmussen track 5 yesterday?
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:08AM EST (link)The telling number is the Obama number there, do you know it off the top of your head?
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Sort of a side factor by my gut feel
bk (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:11AM EST (link)is that there is going to be some percentage of voters – some undecided, some leaning toward Obama – who are going to walk into the booth on November 4th and decide they just cannot vote for Obama. It’s not because he’s black, but rather because some of the negative perceptions have become a bit more set. And on top of that, people may recall that they’ve heard almost no bad news from Iraq lately, the only bad news from Afghanistan is that there is some collateral damage from killing al Qaida kingpins operating out of people’s houses, gas is $2 a gallon, we haven’t been attacked here since 9/11, PUMAs who intend to be faithful to the Democrat but have too bad of a taste still left from Obama’s treatment of Hillary and then Palin, etc.
Maybe that’ll be <1% of people. Maybe it will be 2%. But it will be SOMETHING, whereas I don’t see anywhere close to the number of people who might do the same to McCain. And the people affected will be normal middle class people in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania. Maybe it will be just enough of a sliver of people in the right states to flip a couple from barely Obama to barely McCain.
This comports with my predictions since feb 2006: great increased black turnout doesn't help dems much and the (LINK) NEGATIVE turnout
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:13AM EST (link)I expected against Hillary is magnified by Obama esp given the large numbers of Hillary voters for McCain.
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50-47 Dave
PaRep (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:15AM EST (link).
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clove Wednesday, October 29th at 9:19AM EST (link)I have faith in my country and the people in it. It would be insanity to elect Obama, and I’m not convinced by any means people are that crazy. The American people know better. Another good thing, after this, there won’t be a question ever again if the polls are right or wrong. How does a poll make any sense, when it claims Obama has 51% of the vote, however, the same pollster has McCain being the most trusted and experienced by 80% to be president? It makes no sense and I learned a long time ago that polls are a waste of time. Especially in this particular election.
$600 million campaigning money means nothing?
Cheetah772 (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:20AM EST (link)On whole, one thing that I am pleased the most is that despite Obama’s record fundraising levels, he couldn’t cut significantly into McCain’s numbers.
Maybe this is a lesson we should all learn. That much money means nothing if you have political beliefs that’s out of touch with mainstream Americans. And while our economy is taking a hard hit, it’s not enough to tilt voters over to Obama, so that’s good news for us.
Nevertheless, my question is, would Obama be better off accepting public funding and leave tons of money raised during primary season to Dem 527s? I think Obama’s number of changes on some key issues hurt him a lot prior to the general campaign season. That probably left some small seeds of doubt in some minds of the voters.
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Dave,
pwest (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:31AM EST (link)fantastic work. Yeah haw! Did you by chance look at the PA numbers over a Free Republic?
I was out of it last night and could not return to find your answer. Either way this a great post, and very good news.
So lets: Turn out, Turn out, Turn out the vote!
Pam
Obama spent his money dumb
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:33AM EST (link)He used most of it in saturation advertising that resulted in people actually turning off their TVs until the election is over (or watching their favorite shows on Tivo and fast forwarding past).
His money would have been much better spent developing a grassroots organization to push policy messages, and pushing for direct voter contact in areas where he was weak. This is how you develop a mandate.
But he is a dog that only knows the one trick he learned. Destroy your opponent, and he was sucked into reliance on the fawning media to use as a weapon.
He spent over $50M trying to win Florida with saturation advertising. And he is going to lose, none of the swing areas are voting for him.
There is a reason why the marketing people don’t allow a single advertisement to saturate on TV. You annoy the consumer and get a backlash.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
The post-mortem on Obama's fundraising model should be interesting.
Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:35AM EST (link)Unfortunately for the political junkies, if he wins anyway we’re unlikely to get a proper analysis of its shortcomings{}. You can always get someone to tell you why something didn’t work properly; people who want to tell you why something didn’t work as well as it could have, not so much.
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{}Yes, the model has shortcomings. It’s a creation of Man, which by definition means that it’s imperfect. A hypothetical Obama victory doesn’t change that. We were victorious in WWII, too: anybody want to claim that we did things perfectly, or that we didn’t change our military tactics afterward?
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drmonroe Wednesday, October 29th at 9:39AM EST (link)the voter breakdown. “the partisan weighting targets used by Rasmussen Reports will be 40.0% Democratic, 32.8% Republican, and 27.2% unaffiliated.”
7.2% additional Democrats? And with that advantage Obama is still only ahead by 3? If this holds I think McCain might actually pull this off. Let’s hope.
As I pointed out above, a +7.2 partisan advantage is unrealistic
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:48AM EST (link)Obama with a 50-47 lead and a 7.2 partisan model? Not good for Obama, since with a potential turnout of 130 million, the partisan breakdown is going to much closer to even.
This results looks a lot like we are trending toward a 50-47 win for McCain, exactly like 2004.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Agreed, Obama is in trouble.
Mord (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:55AM EST (link)If Obama was actually as far ahead in the polls as we are lead to believe, he wouldn’t be buying this nationwide “infomercial”. Think about it. Why spend so much money to simply increase his margin of victory?
This is only his second real election. He ran unopposed for his senate seat. He failed to close the deal in the primary and the Democrat greybeards handed the nomination to him (they actually gave Obama delegates that were rightfully Hillary’s, remember? Hello PUMA’s). I suppose you could say that his first run for Congress, wich he lost, could be counted as well, so that makes three.
This guy is supposed to win in a landslide Presidential election and he has never actually won ANY election in his career, except as state senator from Chicago, haha.
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“Republicans never win polls, they win elections,” – Rudy Giuliani
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Yes, I saw those, Pam
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:56AM EST (link)They have a lot of trolls and Eeyores over on Free Republic I noticed though.
The important number that no one there caught was the Bucks County number. Obama trailing the Kerry numbers in Bucks County is bad for him. He needs to over-perform Kerry in the Philly suburbs to counter the rest of the state. He already has all of the Black vote in Philly now, so there aren’t any more votes to get in his strongholds.
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He's a Liberal/Marxist
PaRep (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 9:58AM EST (link)Don’t they all spend other peoples money stupidly & Unwisely??
Dave I put up a Post just like I did hear
PaRep (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 10:01AM EST (link)about the supposed R Internals Having McCain Up Nationally & in Pa & Minnesota & was attacked & called a DU troll & when I defended myself they Banned for being a “TROLL” hahahahaha Me a Troll?????
Outstanding analysis, Dave
eburke (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 10:09AM EST (link)Ras coming out today with +3 the annointed one is HUGE in my opinion. I know many have expressed frustration with Ras this cycle but unlike Zogby and some of the rest of the MSM garbage polls, Ras has shown great steadiness in his trends which reflects to me a consistent methodology even if I believe he is oversampling Ds despite his best efforts to accurately gauge Voter ID.(something tells me that the voters haven’t gone from +2 TAO up to +12 TAO and back down to +4 TAO all in less than 2 weeks as Zogby has reported)
I still believe that if TAO hasn’t convinced you to vote for him by now after a gajillion $s of ads, it’s gonna be tough to provide a reason for you in the next 7 days. My gut tells me there’s blowback messiah fatigue coming (it’s why I’m very selective in what and how much I send my more politically apathetic address book; too much and they just tune you out)
I also believe in my heart that despite what the polls say (and, trust me, I clung to the ‘polls are wrong’ meme in ’06 and am desparately trying to avoid the same this time) there are a lot of moderate, slightly attuned voters who are embracing the ‘rightness’ and ‘coolness’ of the thought of a black President. I know some of these people. They are center-right but want to be able to show their “open-mindedness” and reject in their own minds any notion that they might not vote for someone just because they’re black (ya know… the whole ‘white guilt’ thing).
I believe (hope?) in my heart that when the time comes to check the box, all of the Joe the Plumber, Bill Ayers, LA Times video, and BHO slickness, will cause them to have one of those “yeah, I know she’s hot and drop-dead gorgeous and I love what she does to my hormones when I’m around her but do I really want to marry her” moments….and go with the seasoned, proven warhorse.
Still praying…fervently.
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Well Dave I would differ with you
PaRep (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 10:15AM EST (link)there are still a lot of dead people yet to vote there??? LOL!!
You assume they didn't vote in 2004, Pa...
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 10:23AM EST (link)Got to remember, the Philly turnout machine has been in business for a long time.
Like I said, there are no more Obama votes to get in Philly, dead or alive.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Yeah But there are More Dead People In Philly Now than 2004
PaRep (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 10:27AM EST (link)HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !11111111
Thanks eburke
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 10:34AM EST (link)I appreciate the compliment.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Telling Silence
jimmuy8 (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 11:23AM EST (link)Where are the Obama internals that contradict McCain’s? Why won’t one of his firms put their reputation on the line and say “our numbers show something different?”
Come on, Obama: At least one of your internal polling firms is disposable enough that you will throw them under the bus. Or at least, you can pay one of them enough to lie to us. You’ve paid millions already to lie to us, what’s another couple tens of million?
Team Obama, by not refuting, is agreeing.
That ought to really scare our Obamabot lurkers.
And then there's this little tidbit from the
eburke (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 11:28AM EST (link)Las Vegas Review Journal:
While turnout statewide was nearly 25 percent through Sunday, it was just 20 percent among Hispanic voters, 14 percent among voters under 30 and 15 percent among those who didn’t vote in the last three elections, according to an analysis of state early voting records through Sunday prepared by America Votes, an organization that works to mobilize voters.
One of the things that’s easy to forget (I know I have until recently) is that even the ‘good’ polls (i.e. Ras, Battleground, TIPPS), have a worst case scenario for McCain already built in, i.e it’s not like these polls are showing McCain behind based on sampling based on past turnout models and then saying ‘we think turnout in BO groups will be even higher this time.’ It’s the opposite-they’re assuming that all these unreliable groups will turn out and polling accordingly. If they don’t, it’s all upside for McCain.
That’s why I think movement in Ras is so big because while I still believe that he’s oversampling D’s at 7.2% based on past turnouts (even in the disaster of ’06 the #s weren’t that bad), at least he’s enacted a consistent methodolgy over the past months in an attempt to identify shifting voter ID numbers. If he’s showing closure…..
Praying fervently….
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Good Point
neum432 (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 1:58PM EST (link)The silence you hear is “The Obama Campaign”. They are trying to run out the clock, sit on the ball, take a knee etc. If they were confident they would come out and say that they know they are ahead by large margins in all these Battleground states. But they are silent. All they can say is take the day off of work and go vote. Seems interesting!
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redneck_hippie (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 5:42PM EST (link)LVRJ:
Did they give the comparison between this years percentage by vote block vs. say, 2006 early voting? Wondering if these percentages are consistent with other years, and already built into the models.
stupid point
Pentagon16 (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 6:04PM EST (link)IF Obama really has all this money, why WOULDN’T he spend it all on a national ad which might bring an extra 1% of the vote?!!
what else is he supposed to do with it- give tax refunds after he wins?!!
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drothgery Wednesday, October 29th at 10:23PM EST (link)Every Obama commercial I saw — and I saw a lot, or at least fast forwarded past a lot on my DVR — was Obama wasting money on California TV. He does know he doesn’t get any bonus electoral votes for driving up his margin of victory in CA, right?
Tell me one thing, BO? Where's the tax cut money coming from?
GregInFla (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 10:24PM EST (link)Where’s the tax cut money coming from? No one asks the One that question. People are catching on, methinks.
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Why not spend it on down-ticket democratis races?
Mord (Diary) Wednesday, October 29th at 11:05PM EST (link)I hear Murtha is having troubles lately.
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Well reasoned.
Shawn Gillogly (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:23AM EST (link)The only thing that concerns me about all this is what effect the MSM publicizing the assumed early-voting results will have.
If the average McCain voter believes the hype about early voting breaking 2-1 Democrat, they may decide to stay home on Tues, since they typically are more lukewarm than the Obamabots. I’m not sure that 2-1 number is legitimate. And I sure don’t like the fact that the MSM gets to play around with telling us what those “results” are before the election is over.
That said, they aren’t able to ‘see’ those ballots. They’re (at best) announcing exit polls of early voters. And we all know how reliable exit polls are (not).
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exactly, a part of my discussion in
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:30AM EST (link)the MSM prepares groundwork for Election night coverage (more bias to influence the Vote count) here at RS. Hope you’ll check it out and add your thoughts.
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JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:39AM EST (link)When any Republican suggests a Tax Cut, it is always DEMANDED OF THEM “WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM.” We all know the BS of that tact, and interesting (now that you pointed it out) how conveniently it is not asked of a Demagogue… er… Democrat.
Tax Cuts, of course, do NOT need to be paid for because it is NOT Govt. money to begin with. We make that point over and over when WE want Tax Cuts, but they keep repeating the Question. Yet another Pass to the Obamination candidate.
His Tax scheme is all Smoke and Mirrors and the MSM keeps refueling the Smoke machine!!!
More on Taxes: McCain/Palin create wealth for everyone vs. ObamaBinBiden “spread the wealth” model (should read ‘share the misery,’ return of the “Misery index” like we had under Jimmy Carter will soon return if Obama is elected). For one, see Brian Simpson’s – Rich Do Not Benefit Disproportionately or how about joeljournal’s – Obama spreading the wealth around since 2001 which includes my post about Obama’s TaxCutFact.org distortions Fuzzy Math calculator, numbers that spin more like a roulette wheel and just as big a gamble and see more via RS:Category:Taxes
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“I think, therefore I am Conservative”
“Conservative by choice, Republican by necessity”
“You can lead a Liberal to the Truth/Facts, but you cannot make them THINK!”
“Romney [No, not my first choice] does NOT have a MORMON problem. He has a, far too many Americans; these days; are MORONS problem!”
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Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
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My hope for '08
seattle_ite Thursday, October 30th at 3:35AM EST (link)is the same as ’00 & ’04. A mildly squishy Republican can usually beat a leftist, all things being equal. Kerry and Gore weren’t NEARLY as wild-eyed lefty as Obama is. I should think that enough IC’s, like myself, will flock to the polls.
Carter basically won due to Ford’s connection with Nixon/Watergate, and Clinton largely won due to H.W.’s renege on tax policy, plus the Perot spoiler. But it must also be said that, IMHO, Ford and H.W. were a bit wobbly about their Conservative base. They both tended towards ‘bipartisanship’ which, though a good thing in moderation, is usually a mistake when dealing with the current iteration of the opposition.
W’s disappearing act over the last few years, coupled with his trust of the opposition party, is part of why we are still showing such a lackluster performance. Sarah has knocked everyone back a step or two, and continues to impress.
I'd hope to think...
seattle_ite Thursday, October 30th at 3:49AM EST (link)…that enough voters will be incensed at the ‘soft communism’ that the O is spouting & will refuse to sit this one out.
Hill Article Is Much Better Than Fox Version
WHAT (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 5:27AM EST (link)http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/mccains-pollster-foresees-tight-race-on-election-night-2008-10-28.html
Hey McCain supporters, it is O.K. to be very optimistic and there is good reason for it. There is a big difference between Obama’s smug overconfidence and our optimism. Overconfidence loses elections and optimism wins them. NOW GOTV!
RCP polls
Scope (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 6:01AM EST (link)I heard Rove talking about the enormous number of pollsters doing their thing this election cycle. I believe he said that there were something like 250 polls just in October compared to about 67 in the 2004 election cycle. With everything thing else that Obama has bought including ACORN etc., I would never be surprised to hear that he bought many of those additional pollsters just to make it appear that he is leading by much wider margins than he is. I guess that’s part of the reason why he must accept donations from Adolph Hitler, Osama Bin Laden and Mickey Mouse. Paying people off is very expensive.
Team Sarah
democratsarefascists Thursday, October 30th at 8:58AM EST (link)I’ve looked into this group and joined, (yes, they take guys). That’s at least 30,000 confirmed voters who WILL get out and vote. They are overwhelmingly Hillary supporters voting McCain because Obama’s fraud, especially in Nevada, has rightly enough incensed them.
There are also a good many who have said they want to wipe the smirks off Biden’s and Chris Matthews’ faces. Obama himslef has strong negatives on his “sweetie” attitude towards women.
I don’t think any pollster has accurately assessed the growing hatred for the liberal propaganda mill or the condescending male politicians, or more importantly, the ACTION that might result.
View from a PUMA
LaBonBon Thursday, October 30th at 9:28AM EST (link)Special thanks to gamecock for posting the great American
Thinker article. I have been saying since the primaries that we disaffected Hillary supporters were the uncovered political story of the year. I really don’t think the MSM or even the Republican party understands the depth of the bitterness and animosity we feel toward Obama and his supporters. I am 52 years old and have been a Democrat all my life and I’ve never seen anything like it. People just don’t get over these sort of feelings. I am going to be interested to read the breakdown of voters after the election. I think the world is going to be surprised by the number of Dems who crossed over and voted for McCain-Palin. There is a concensus among PUMAs that the party needs to crash and burn and shed the far left loony wing.
Great point Mike
theBlur (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 10:06AM EST (link)Anecdotal evidence I had just Monday at the early voting in my county (not exactly a strong red county, I might add) supports what you have posted. I was in in line with four older women who were all talking among themselves. One commented that she had never voted for a republican for president in her life, but she just had to vote for McCain this time. The other four agreed with her. Catching a glimpse of one ladies’ voter registration card, I could see that it was stamped “DEMOCRATIC” which in our state means that she had voted in the democratic primary this year.
Not if I can help it!!!!
securitymom (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 10:48AM EST (link)Even in Blue California, I will be manning the phone bank on Sat and Monday.
That’s what I have been doing for years. That’s what republicans do. I should add we don’t need the Obama ground money…we’re called volunteers!
By the way to answer someone earlier…I am a member of the NRA.
“Security Mom/Grandma”
Thanks to All PUMAs
Good_Captain Thursday, October 30th at 11:08AM EST (link)And to you too LaBonBon!
Good Captain
LaBonBon, you are so right. The MSM and
janis (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 1:06PM EST (link)the O campaign would cut off their left leg before they would acknowledge the truth of this year–the record Dem voting go on is NOT for Obama, but for McCain/Palin.
This will be a really tasty surprise come November 5th, or whatever day Obama finally concedes/runs out of options.
One thing I’d really like to thank all you McCainacrats for: your unwavering optimism and determination that John and Sarah will win. Republicans can learn a lot from you guys! We are disturbingly prone to the Eeyore thing.
Expect serious backlash if we win
Next93 (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 1:59PM EST (link)I’m really scared of what’s going to happen if we loose this election, but that scares me only a little bit more than what’s going to happen if we win.
During WWI, the German people were fed a constant stream of positive news about the war; the government controlled the media and censored letters from the front.
When the surrender came, the people were shocked. From thier viewpoint, they’d gone from assured victory to humliating defeat without a pause. The conspiracy theories started almost immediately, the most popular ones having to do with Jewish bankers and industrialists selling out the country. We all know where that lead.
Our own socialists have been beating a constant drumbeat of “stolen election” conspiracy theories for eight years, now. If they find themselves loosing suddenly and unexpectedly, look for a LOT of civil unrest in the coming years.
Keep in mind that the German populace was well-educated practically worshiped the idea of civic order before the rise of the brown-shirts, whereas Hollywood has been actively feeding a thug-culture in this country for years. If you thought the Seattle G8 and the South Central riots was scary, wait till you see what happens if the Chosen One is denied his throne next Tuesday.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
Thanks,
pwest (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:20PM EST (link)I donated a few buck to Hillbuzz, and commented that I never thought I’d donate money to anything that had to do with Hillary Clinton, but you guys have renewed my faith in the country.
I do not agree with most of the Clinton’s policy ideas, but I know that Bill and Hillary Clinton love this country. I remember the look on President Clinton’s face when a crazy truther said that our government knew about 9/11 and did nothing. President Clinton turned red, and said, “how dare you!” I knew then and there all I needed to know.
Thanks for putting the nation ahead of the party. I agree with Erick, Moe and Dave that we need to work together after the election on policies we agree on and then be prepared to do battle, thoughtful political battle in 12 between McCain/Palin and Hillary/whoever!
God Bless you, and God Bless this great land.
Turn out, Turn out, Turn out!
Pam
Expect serious backlash if we win
Next93 (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:36PM EST (link)I’m really scared of what’s going to happen if we loose this election, but that scares me only a little bit more than what’s going to happen if we win.
During WWI, the German people were fed a constant stream of positive news about the war; the government controlled the media and censored letters from the front.
When the surrender came, the people were shocked. From thier viewpoint, they’d gone from assured victory to humliating defeat without a pause. The conspiracy theories started almost immediately, the most popular ones having to do with Jewish bankers and industrialists selling out the country. We all know where that lead.
Our own socialists have been beating a constant drumbeat of “stolen election” conspiracy theories for eight years, now. If they find themselves loosing suddenly and unexpectedly, look for a LOT of civil unrest in the coming years.
Keep in mind that the German populace was well-educated practically worshiped the idea of civic order before the rise of the brown-shirts, whereas Hollywood has been actively feeding a thug-culture in this country for years. If you thought the Seattle G8 and the South Central riots was scary, wait till you see what happens if the Chosen One is denied his throne next Tuesday.
Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.
Gallagher had a woman on his radio show
ILLINOIS_CONSERV (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 2:52PM EST (link)and he played the tape of BHO on a radio interview back in 2001. He talked about his socialistic views and his regret that the civil rights movement didn’t involve using the courts to provide economic equality. A woman called into the show, an Obama supporter, and said that she didn’t believe it was Obama on the tape. Now the Obama camp has never reputed the validity of this tape. It is from a mainstream Chicago radio station interview and yet this woman wouldn’t admit it was his voice. Should McCain win there will be many people believing the election was rigged. There most likely will be civil unrest. I would not want to be near Grant Park in Chicago next Tuesday.
The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing – Edmund Burke
Thank You LaBonBon!!!!!!!!
WHAT (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 3:17PM EST (link)I hope you read my thank you diary post
entitled “I Love Pumas”
PUMAS are an inspiration!
I also wish to welcome the PUMA
ILLINOIS_CONSERV (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 3:20PM EST (link)and dem crossovers. It is time for the dems to shake loose the extreme left wing of the party. The comments about our troops that come from the Pelosi, Reid, Murtha crowd is disgusting. To have our so called leaders say that we have lost a war or cannot possibly win when the facts say otherwise is bordering on treason. They need to understand that AMERICANS regardless of party affiliation do not believe in their defeatist agenda.
The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing – Edmund Burke
Battleground States poll: O+3
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 4:24PM EST (link)But:
Undecided = 12%
This election is very, very close. McCain/Palin has a “real” chance of winning this election. Obama’s millions don’t give much results.
Ref: pdf file of Oct 29 poll results
Kos's own poll has McCain within 5 - cut it 5% in 4 days
MCM (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 4:38PM EST (link)Link
problem
Pentagon16 (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 5:29PM EST (link)what is the truth about the early voting. I see in NV, FL, NC that it is dissapointing for the libs.
Then in the Washington free newspaper there is an article about how pollsters can’t believe how much the turnout is and how great it is for the libs.
They are stating that early voting was 60-40 for Bush but now 60-40 for Obama this time. If true that is really bad news..
“Small town folks get bitter after which they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment”- Barack Carter Obama
Let's really support McCain instead of just fearing Obama
jeffreywturner (Diary) Thursday, October 30th at 11:36PM EST (link)I think Obama would be a terrible President.
However, that isn’t enough to get me to vote for McCain.
If I didn’t like McCain, I would vote Libertarian or Constitution Pary.
I will vote for McCain though, because he will be a fantastic President, and I am sick and tired of my fellow conservatives acting like we just have to take McCain like he is the lesser of two evils.
He is impeccable on national defense and the committment to appoint originalist justices to the SCOTUS. Those two reasons are enough to support him, but there is more.
Anyone who is thinking of sitting this election out or voting for a third party candidate should consider 4 years. Not the next 4 years, but the 4 additional years of brutal imprisonment and torture that John McCain suffered AFTER he refused to be released. There are Patriots and there are Patriots. The man is as tough as nails and is more dedicated to do whatever it takes to protect the American way of life than any person alive. The very least wee can do is go to the polls and give him the chance to lead this nation in our hour of need.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
I agree.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 2:24AM EST (link)America needs a new President. His name is…
The incumbent president Bush has already succumbed to socialism being introduced by incumbent leading candidate Obama, the real incumbent pseudo-president of Anti-American gangs of Pelosi, Reid and the commie/socialist third parties. Bush, after 9/11, has forgotten about his Contract with America.
Looking forward to new Poll news
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 3:23AM EST (link)Though I’ve heard “the experts” (including Rove, more inclined to listen to him) warning us to be careful. DO NOT PUT MUCH STOCK IN THE W/E POLLS as these are often the most flawed because of various groups and their w/e patterns as to who may be more “reachable” and “willing to participate” in a Poll over the w/e.
As for Tuesday night…
If McCain/Palin can hold VA and hopefully (of course, FL but looking at) PA and/or OH (or to at least hold them close) to prevent the MSM from calling (spinning) them early – (Vote Psychology (Bandwagon, Bradley, etc) effect) – to influence voting in CO, WI, MO, NM, NV. Yes, some other States they keep telling us are in flux, but it seems to me those hold the keys.
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I've visited PUMA sites...
johninca Friday, October 31st at 3:43AM EST (link)…and some of them are advising their readers to tell pollsters they’re voting for Obama while actually voting for McCain. I can’t condone those tactics, but I do think McCain will do better than polling indicates– and pray it will be enough.
I must amend my comment...
johninca Friday, October 31st at 3:53AM EST (link)…ever so slightly. I only know of one site that advocated lying to pollsters in this way, but on No Quarter read a comment from another anti-Obama Democrat who admitted to lying to pollsters as well.
The real shock may be how far McCain’s actual vote totals exceed his polling numbers.
Even in FL, the dead rose to vote for the big O.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 5:13AM EST (link)This is from Hillbuzz describing the voters fraud in Volusia County in FL.
Source: Hillbuzz’s Happy Halloween! The Dead Are Voting Democrat in Florida Again!
Spooky!
KOs are just adjusting their "blunt lies" into "half lies".
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 5:20AM EST (link)KOs know the actual state of their own polling. The need to adjust their numbers to give themselves a few sense of reality. Why? It’s actually simple. KOs now feel that the people are beginning to sense KOs’ madness over Obama’s false “huge lead” over McCain.
Why do people act as if VA is lost? 2 polls yesterday have it w/n 4
MCM (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 5:39AM EST (link)and those were Marist and National Journal – neither of which have been particularly pro-McCain in their numbers the rest of the way. I honestly think that McCain will win VA.
This isn’t so much directed at you daveinfla, just looking for a place to say it.
That is what point number 1 is about
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 7:37AM EST (link)The turnout is going to be massive, which means the efforts to depress Republican turnout has failed. The only way to exceed the 2004 turnout is to have both Democrat AND Republicans turn out.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
LaBonBon, thank you
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 7:40AM EST (link)The one thing that has surprised me this election is how my opinion of the Hillary supporters has changed. Now, my opinion of Hillary isn’t really different yet (smile), but I’ve been very impressed with the sheer determination of the centrist Democrats working for McCain this year.
If my side of the aisle had the same level of commitment and purpose, we would never lose an election. We have a lot to learn from the PUMAs.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Actually, Rod, that isn't close
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 7:44AM EST (link)One of the points in the above analysis is that undecideds will break to McCain in large numbers, 3 to 1 or better. If the Battleground poll is correct, then we are looking at a 3 or 4 point McCain win.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Pentagon, you are getting bad info on early voting
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 7:50AM EST (link)Probably from reading the WaPost
In Florida, the Dems have a 53/35 lead in early voting, with 1.4 million votes cast. However, the GOP has a 50/30 lead in absentee ballots, with 1.2 million absentees submitted.
The polling on early votes gives McCain a 3 point lead so far. Since you can’t poll effectively on absentee ballots (many if not most are overseas military), this means McCain is leading even with the huge party ID advantage in the votes.
An almost identical situation is currently unfolding in Nevada (see my link in the Diary).
I’m about to post another Diary, but it is looking a lot like Florida is over, and McCain has won it convincingly.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
But I agree with you, McCain is going to win VA
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 7:54AM EST (link)The most recent info I heard is that Obama is trailing the Kerry numbers in Northern Virginia, and is getting killed in SW Virginia. Norfolk is strong military and will vote McCain.
I just don’t see how Obama can win, unless he convinces purple areas like Loudon County to vote for him, and promises to cut defense spending by 25% are not good ways to get their vote.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Bro. Dave wanting to cheer up his little brother Rod?
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 8:22AM EST (link)Wow! I’m only trying to be hopeful, bro. Now, your insight of 3-to-1 break of the undecideds in favor of McCain will cause me a great jubilation.
In short, McPalin can really win this election.
This is unbelievable. And thanks God for that!
Glad to help, Rod :)
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 8:42AM EST (link)There were two “ifs” in there, so don’t open the champagne yet.
If the Battleground polls is correct.
If the above analysis is correct.
But neither of those are a stretch. Battleground has a good reputation, and they are over sampling Dems just like all the other polls. And there are no Blacks in the undecided pool right now, which will heavily skew the break toward McCain.
Obama is the incumbent right now, which doesn’t help him with undecideds.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
hey redneck, didn't see any comparables
eburke (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 9:30AM EST (link)to ’06 in the article. That would be an interesting comparison.
“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Unified Patriots
We must continue the fight!
LSUAlum Friday, October 31st at 12:49PM EST (link)Polls show the predictions but the real numbers will be shown on Tuesday. I truly believe that more people will be voting for McCain than what the polls are showing. At least I hope so!
We simply cannot let Obama turn this country into a socialist nation!
lack of machines
Vuk Zoric Friday, October 31st at 12:59PM EST (link)I think our best hope in Virginia is that the shortage of voting machines will discourage the Obama voters. RCP now has VA solidly Obama. Florida looks like it could be a winner for us, though. PA, no way, but if we hold Indiana and Ohio, it could happen.
I’ll put my heart up for McCain, but my money’s staying in my wallet. As a betting man, the odds are too long for me.
Although I know it’s a fool’s exercise, I just can’t help daydreaming about where things would be if Romney were the VP pick.
Per Drudge - Zogby showed McCain up 48-47 on tonight's polling
MCM (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 9:18PM EST (link)Wow.
Huge Buzzzzzzzz
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Friday, October 31st at 9:25PM EST (link)News is spreading like wildfire. Just one poll. Just one point. But psychologically this is huge.
I dont care much for polls but having momentum is good and having at least a few polls showing McCain pulling ahead is huge for the psyche and the GOTV.
New Inside Polling!
LaBonBon Saturday, November 1st at 12:13AM EST (link)Please, everyone, visit this link!!!!
http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/500/mcmentum/
Then click on “The Real Polls” and be prepared to be blown away!!!!!!!!
Sorry
JoeG Saturday, November 1st at 12:55AM EST (link)Count me in the “I voted for Sarah and that guy running wither her.”
No way was I going to throw away my vote and let the one win.
Bucks County and Philly suburbs
finaljeopardy Saturday, November 1st at 1:38AM EST (link)Soccer moms in these areas handed Hillary her comeback primary win. She gave McCain a map where Obama is vulnerable. That’s why the party bosses wanted her head.
Obama was dumb
finaljeopardy Saturday, November 1st at 1:46AM EST (link)to turn down public financing. I think he wanted control of the party apparatus, to ensure absolute obedience to him by keeping his donor lists and battling Hillary. That was her strength until Obama, her donors.
The infomercial, I think, freaked voters out, because there was no denying that it cost a fortune, an unnecessary one at that. The 527′s left him alone, and McCain wasn’t slinging mud.
Romneybot
finaljeopardy Saturday, November 1st at 1:57AM EST (link)You make your candidate look bad when you trash the Republican who beat him in the primaries, and the VP he chose. Sarah Palin has revived the campaign, and even won the admiration of her opponents. Romney could never have achieved this, as the primaries made abundantly clear.
My pious mother has been praying...
johninca Saturday, November 1st at 3:53AM EST (link)…since the primaries for the defeat of the godless Democrats. As a Californian now being held behind the bluestate bamboo curtain, I would welcome the Republicans as liberators.
Serriously!!!
RepMom_in_CA (Diary) Saturday, November 1st at 4:41AM EST (link)Although Central Valley isn’t too bad. But yeah, send in the forces!
I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crises. The great point is to bring them the real facts.
—Abraham Lincoln
Spread this one around!
ejfrench (Diary) Saturday, November 1st at 7:34AM EST (link)This will give you chills…
From DebbieSchlussel.com…the reason the Khalidi tape hasn’t been released. A childen’s dance troupe performed at the event. In subsequent performances attended under cover by Schlussel, the little cuties performed mock beheadings of troup members draped in US and UK flags, who then stomped on the flags.
Oh man…now it really makes sense why this tape stays hidden.
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/10/exclusive_d ance.html
I've tossed two spambotters this morning already, ejfrench.
Moe Lane (Diary) Saturday, November 1st at 7:38AM EST (link)We’re quite bipartisan about it, too.
So don’t be the third.
The Kim Kardashian of blogging.
Check out my blog at http://moelane.com/.
http://moelane.com/filthy-lucre-filthy-lucre/
http://twitter.com/moelane
My (combined) wish list.
Thanks bro.
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, November 1st at 8:19AM EST (link)I’ll never forget the “ifs”. But I’ll still keep the good stuff.
[Plagiarism is rude, Kurt.]
thatone Saturday, November 1st at 7:59PM EST (link)[No thoughts of your own? - Moe Lane]
Several points....
MooseyMom Saturday, November 1st at 9:09PM EST (link)You overlook the high negatives of Sarah Palin. Yes, the base is going to be out strong yet that won’t do it. In the upscale gated community I live in it’s normally been 90% Republican. It is scary how many of my friends are so sick of Bush they will not vote for McCain. Several may even vote for Obama, but I expect many of them will just not vote. They are terrified Palin could end up as president.
Your consideration of Obama as the incumbent in this race is simply wrong. It certainly does not hold true here in NC. If anything McCain is considered the incumbent, especially since he ran in 2000 (and many of my friends supported him, myself included)
We need to be realistic. Whatever the outcome of this election it would be wise for us to come together for the good of our country and fellow man.
Zogby Is Questionable
dld1717 (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 12:55AM EST (link)Zogby is questionable but he shows Obama having good polling day on Saturday and is back to his lead
Nervous? I am
Zogby's message
DrOldSchool (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 1:09AM EST (link)“A special note to blogger friends: calm it down. Lay off the cable television noise and look at your baseball cards in your spare time. It is better for your (and everyone else’s) health.”
That’s the Zogby I’ve known for years. His quirkiness and arrogance always gets in the way of his polling.
As for the results… +1 to -10 day to day is nutty. I wish I knew what was going to happen Tuesday. I have to have a prediction together to present for a department function about the election Monday. I have 0 clue what to say for about 5-7 deciding states (VA, CO, PA, OH, NH, NV, FL). Since I am more/less the “token” conservative, I feel a bit of extra pressure with it.
I know, I’m an Eeyore.
“Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?”
- Ronald Reagan, 1975 Speech to CPAC
I voted today in FL
mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 1:54AM EST (link)There were several black families who were brought to the front of the voting line by the volunteer lawyers.
(Who are these lawyers? They approached us in line told us to contact them if we had trouble voting that they could help us. They had some kind of interest in getting us to stay in line, the told us there was no line once we were at the door which was a lie. They didn’t look or act like they were from here. They presented themselves as an authority to make sure everything goes ok with voting but they said they were sent down here from a different state, so I’m thinking who the heck are they if they aren’t from the county?)
One thing I noticed is unlike the white voters in line most of the black voters had a few generations together. There would be an eldlery woman and a son, or an elderly woman and 2 or 3 women in their 20s-40s and their kids.
Most of the white voters were college students in groups and then after that it was old men. There were a couple of older women with the men but mostly the older white men were alone. I didn’t see any white women in their late 20s – 50s in line.
Before I was given my ballot the election lady checking my license was rude to me! I have a foreign last name and she made face and rolled her eyes when she tried to pronounce it! Then she made another face before she gave me my wallet back!
Arrogant Obama.
kish Sunday, November 2nd at 10:35AM EST (link)I find that Obama is the most arrogant person who ran for the highest office in the country. He had the audacity to poke in the eye of John McCain in his recent
TV ads and his visit to Arizona.
This thing would have been in bag if he chose Hillary to be his VP. That was another arrogant move. He thought he could do without the support of the Clintons. He snubbed her. Now, he is crawling on his knees begging for Clinton support. BTW, where are the Kennedy clans? Hidden in the bunker.
Obama would have been no where if the News Media had given an unbiased coverage to both camps. Wolf Blitzer and Larry King is unbelivably biased.
This thing would be over if LA times release those tapes of Obama palling in Dinner with those Communists.
There was a huge hullabaloo when Sarah Palin was annouced as the Rep VP saying she was not properly vetted by MCain Team. Now, it looks like Caroline and the Kennady clan didn’t do a good job of checking out Obama and his associates.
Obama don’t know about his Aunt Zeituni Onyango.
Obama don’t know about his cousin Raila Odinga.
Obama don’t know about Bill Ayers.
William Ayers book “Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism” was written in 1974. Many don’t know that it was republished together with two other Weather Underground books as shown here in 2006.
The book is a frightening insight into the mind of these former domestic terrorists who despise our country and, shockingly, are now teaching some of our college age children.
One of the people Ayers dedicated his book when it was first published was Robert F. Kennedy’s killer, Shiran Shiran, whom he called a U.S. political prisoner.
Obama don’t know about Tony Razko
Obama don’t know about Rashid Khalid
Obama don’t know about Rev. Wright
Obama don’t know about Acorn
Obama don’t know about his religion.
“Let’s not play games. I was suggesting – you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.”
Obama don’t know about the States of the Union
“Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”
Obama don’t know about small town people.
And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
Obama don’t know about Selma march across the bridge.
Obama has as much trouble with numbers as he has with maps. Last March, on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Ala., he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement: “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.”
Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965. His spokesman, Bill Burton, later explained that Obama was “speaking metaphorically about the civil-rights movement as a whole.”
Obama don’t know about Auschwitz.
“I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps,” Obama said, slowly and methodically. “And the story in my family is that when he came home, he just went into the attic, and he didn’t leave the house for six months. Alright? Now, obviously something had affected him deeply, but at the time, there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain.”
That may be a fact, the RNC noted gleefully — but only if Obama’s uncle served in the Red Army of Joseph Stalin, which liberated Auschwitz Jan. 27, 1945.
I don’t know if he is suitable to hold the highest office in the country.
“Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen,” Clinton had said in accusing Obama of distorting his stance on the war.
Flip a coin before every one and ask a faculty member to call it.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 10:42AM EST (link)When they protest, tell ‘em that the data gathering method is now so corrupted that they might as well go with random chance.
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I like this idea...
DrOldSchool (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 10:47AM EST (link)In fact, I think I’ll do it. That should be fun. I think I’ll have an easier time explaining this reasoning than the reality of the situation as I see it.
Thanks!
“Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?”
- Ronald Reagan, 1975 Speech to CPAC
Upscale Community need to do its research
LeeAnn Sunday, November 2nd at 12:12PM EST (link)People in your community should be more terrified at the thought of an Obama Presidency. To not vote is utterly ludicrous and because they are sick of Buch is as equally absurd. McCain has differed from Bush numerous times and ALWAYS stands FOR America. You may not always agree with McCain on policy but his integrity is NEVER A QUESTION. Would they rather have Obama who has socialistic policies, terrorist ties that are too numerous to ignore, is anti-capitalism, pro abortion? I could go on and on. Sarah Palin’s experience to be the possible future president should be THE LEAST of their concerns, as Obama has LESS!
Vote McCain! Don’t stay home, don’t be complacent or the America we know will be drastically altered.
Why is McCain going to TN?
dld1717 (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 10:42PM EST (link)McCain has a rally in TN tom?
Can anyone explain this move and waste of time?
They're getting in one last visit to the SW VA area.
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 11:00PM EST (link)Never hurts, and it’s on the way to PA.
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Why not in VA then?
dld1717 (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 11:04PM EST (link)Why not have rally in VA then?
I thought it was for outside states but its best to have it in state then?
By way Moe can u please fix 404 error problem Please
I'll ask John McCain when we go bowling tomorrow. :)
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 11:07PM EST (link)Not being involved in TN/VA GOP operations, I have no idea why they picked that venue.
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To one of the site controllers...
dbecraft Sunday, November 2nd at 11:09PM EST (link)Moe, it has been very nice to post over 5 comments tonight… Usually, I would get an error – 500 Server Error. At any rate, it is nice to be able to post a few comments without problems (unusual)… Hope that you get these problems resolved.
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You and me both. :)
Moe Lane (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 11:11PM EST (link)NT
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error 404 is problem
dld1717 (Diary) Sunday, November 2nd at 11:12PM EST (link)just trying to view recent posts and getting error 404 is problem now
Heh...hang in there...
dbecraft Sunday, November 2nd at 11:16PM EST (link)It has to improve…(well I can hope can’t I)!
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Interesting article, thanks for the insightful info
MuskegonCritic Monday, November 3rd at 10:37AM EST (link)One thing I don’t get…
I’ve heard the “Obama as incumbent” statement before, but I don’t know where it comes from. Is this a hypothesis or is there some way the pundits gauge voters’ impressions of Obama as the de facto incumbent?
Ed Rendell
whizkid (Diary) Monday, November 3rd at 10:55AM EST (link)boasted recently that “Obama is the incumbent!”
Dan Barr
John, an American Hero
StrongProud Monday, November 3rd at 3:22PM EST (link)John they say even in your pit of despair, your darkest hour, you told your captors to release a man who had been captive before you even though they were going to release you. Your kindness cost you another couple of years in hell! Your never ending compassion for your fellow human beings will put you over the top tomorrow! We owe you this time! God speed. Independent and veteran for McCain/Palin!
Sorry...
ejfrench (Diary) Monday, November 3rd at 9:59PM EST (link)I’m new here…did I do something wrong?