Now I knew she would vote for McCain, because she hates Obama. But I didn’t realize the depth of her anger.
Last night at dinner she told me, “For the first time in my life, I voted a straight Republican ticket.”
“I didn’t even think about it, I just went down the list and filled in every bubble with an R next to it. I don’t want anyone currently in the Democrat Party anywhere near the government right now.”
Now, I admit she is a bit of an anomaly. She is is Jewish, and likes Bush because he has been strong on Israel. We will see how much of an anomaly she is though on Nov. 5th.
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
Well Dave tell her your friend at Redstate
PaRep (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:03AM EST (link)PaRep Thanks her A TON!!! & Did you see the Battleground Poll for today Obama is up only 1 48% to 47%
The Great Thomas Sowell has a column on Polls
PaRep (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:07AM EST (link)Some of these polls seem like they are not trying to report facts but to create an impression. One poll has been reported as using a sample consisting of 280 Republicans and 420 Democrats. No wonder Obama leads in a poll like that.
http://tinyurl.com/6p9e5z
Liberal media tries to bury
James_Reynolds (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:16AM EST (link)the truth. It wants to create a false momentum to get people to say well I wil just vote for Barak so my vote is not wasted on a loser. Second they want Mccain supporters to feel doomed so they feel it doesn’t matter if we vote. Come on guys lets all get out to vote we have sen this in the past. Reagon won both times they tried to bury him, George Bush II won both times they tried to bury him. Lets remind everyone of their games
It is actually an effort to depress turnout
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:26AM EST (link)People won’t go into the booth and vote “cause they want to be on the winning side”. The excellent analysis by Zombie that Wennejunk linked to showed the psychological underpinnings of that effect (bottom line, it doesn’t work).
But what does work is depressing people into thinking it is hopeless and staying home. This is what almost worked in 2000, and what they tried to do in 2004 with the midday release of the exit polls showing the Kerry landslide.
Turnout will be critical to stopping the cheating Obama machine.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
I did see that Pa
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:31AM EST (link)The polls are moving our way, and there are 2 weeks to go. It is looking like McCain’s strategy to beat the $600M Obama has thrown into the race might be the right one.
(For those wondering, it is keep the election close until the end, weather the storm of Obama’s advertising drumbeat, then spend the money held to the end to push the electorate about 5% into his direction)
The BG poll is a nice view that this strategy is working. Hopefully, Obama has just shot his final October surprise.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Powell was his Oct. surprise & it was a dud
PaRep (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:37AM EST (link)That ought to tell you the desperation they feel
This cycle, the same effect may turn an Obama victory into an Obama landslide.
CrabCakes (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:38AM EST (link)The thing that folks have just started noticing is that VA’s polls close at 7:00. If Obama wins by enough in VA (assuming Obama wins the state at all, which is still far from certain), the result could be called as early as 7:01. This would, in effect, mean that Obama wins the election.
However, 7:01 PM EST is only 4:01 PM PST and 5:01 PM MST. If the election essentially gets called with several hours of voting time left in all those states, what do you think the effect will be on GOP turnout in those states?
The resulting depressed turnout could turn a 5 point Obama victory into an 8 point victory, and maybe even flip some relatively close states that he’d likely lose otherwise, like Montana, into his column.
This would make no difference as to who becomes president, but down-ticket races would be heavily affected as would the narrative about Obama’s mandate.
Of course, all of this is very hypothetical and assumes that Obama takes Virginia by at least margin as large as he’s currently leading by in the polls, so that it could be called that early. Elections swing to quickly to make that kind of prediction at this point.
It’s an interesting possibility to ponder, though.
I think you have it backwards
izoneguy (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:45AM EST (link)The Obama supporters would think they have it in the bag and start smoking crack a little sooner because they will expect to see the Obama checks in the mailbox the next day.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
The alternative to this theory Cakes
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:51AM EST (link)What if McCain wins Pennsylvania? What would that do to Obama turnout in California? Would all those young new voters that Obama is counting on still show up at the polls?
The one thing that the Republican’s do know is how important it is to still vote, even if the media is telling us it is hopeless. We almost got burned in 2000, and we had learned our lesson in 2004.
The Obama faithful though? Not tested yet (seems to be a theme there).
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Maybe so, but I believe history would argue otherwise.
CrabCakes (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:52AM EST (link)After the 2000 early call in FL, several folks did studies on election turnout and the effects of a race being called early.
If I remember correctly, turnout decreases across the board, but more so for supporters of the presumed loser. I don’t have links to back that up, and I don’t have time to look for them now.
If you are correct, though, and early reporting of results negatively impacts the presumed winner, then the media was doing Bush a favor in 2000, not Gore.
Darn, reply to this is my friend; meant for izoneguy above.
CrabCakes (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:56AM EST (link)An alternative indeed, albeit less likely based on current polling.
CrabCakes (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:56AM EST (link)You miss my point, Cakes
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 9:58AM EST (link)Republican’s will never again let media reports depress their vote on election day. It worked in 2000. It didn’t work in 2004 where the mid day dump of exit polls drove UP Republican turnout during the day.
What hasn’t been tested is whether Democrats would be depressed on election day if the universally predicted landslide doesn’t pan out.
YOU GUYS are the ones set up for disappointment, WE’VE already been told by everyone how badly we are going to be destroyed in this election.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Yes, current polling
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 10:01AM EST (link)That assumes a +12% differential in Democrat participation over Republican.
Look, I’ll admit, if the current polls actually reflect the actual demographic participation in the election, then Obama is heading to a huge night. And if that happens, it is a historic sea change in the electorate, and this country is indeed ready for Socialism.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy
Republicans aren't the folks I'm talking about.
CrabCakes (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 10:06AM EST (link)The party faithful show up no matter what, but the party faithful only make up 30 some odd percent of the electorate.
Independents, however, are hard enough to get to the polls when there’s some semblance of their vote counting. If the election is over, a lot don’t show up.
History says that more of those who don’t show up were planning on voting for the presumed loser, and that a higher percentage who were planning to vote for the presumed winner will show up anyway.
I’m not saying this to predict an Obama landslide or some such, but I am saying that if the numbers look like they do now a week from today, the GOP had better start pushing an “it isn’t over until every vote is cast” and “every vote counts” mantra. Otherwise the results may be quite a bit worse than they would’ve been if all the polls closed at the same time.
DEAR DAVE- YOU HAVE MY VOTE
THE_RED_REBEL (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 10:36AM EST (link)DEAR MRS. DAVE_IN FLORIDA, THANK YOU FOR TAKING A STAND FOR MY KIDS FUTURE, AS THEY ARE DEPRESSED RIGHT NOW AND NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE FROM THE OPPOSING VIEW THAT HAVE A VOICE WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT IS TRUE, RIGHT AND HONORABLE.AND WHO WILL DO THE RIGHT THING WHEN CALLED UPON TO DO SO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WARMEST REGARDS,
FROM THE VERY RED PANHANDLE IN THE SUNSHINE STATE.
Enjoy your day and in knowing we appreciate your consternation and decision.
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“History is God’s providence in human affairs”- Daniel Webster
“I know of no way of judging the future, but by the past”-Patrick Henry
“Government is the people’s business and every man, woman and child becomes a shareholder with the first penny of tax paid.- Ronald W. Reagan
I'm probably belaboring the point, Cakes
Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, October 21st at 10:49AM EST (link)So I’ll drop this after this point.
The 2000 election result had nothing to do with independents. It was 4 million evangelicals deciding to stay home during the final weekend, after the DUI bomb dropped. The GOP had no GOTV ground game, and final dynamics almost cost us the the election.
That changed in 2002, and was especially important in 2004, when Kerry met (and exceeded) his turnout goals.
Now in 2006, the GOP did not meet it’s turnout goals. The question this year is will 2008 look like 2006 or 2004?
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy