Did you REALLY believe Stupak was going to vote against this bill if his vote was needed????
He told his constituents in october that he would vote for the bill regardless of whether the “no abortion” clause was there or not

Like you said, without Stupak plus a couple of others, this might have failed. Then again, a couple of the ones Madame Nancy allowed to vote no might have voted yes if it had been needed. It’s disgusting.

Landrieu held out for some cash; Lieberman held out on principle; Stupak made a lot of noise and got nothing, except that now people on both sides of the debate are teed off at him.

I don’t remember, the post the comments were on, and I don’t want to double post.

Essentially, you kept us fired up, and because of that we have momentum.

While tempting to throw the major amount of blame on Stupak, which he well deserves first as a person, then as a representative, there are 218 in the house that were also the deciding factor.

Stupak is an example of Hayek’s reasoning of why the bad rise to the top. If you are willing to compromise your principles in public that you would not do in private, you would be a corruptable person. If you are willing to say one thing and do another, it cannot be attributed to your integrity.

Stupak was looking for and found 15 minutes of fame. It seems for the Dems all the world is a stage, and we are being played. The chorography (Major Garrett’s words) is still going on in Washington.

Mr. Smith, as some of the more hopeful watchers claimed he was, has evidently left the building.

bill are appreciated. No one could control the outcome of the vote, except the Democrats, and Stupak in particular. Until yesterday, I believed that Stupak and his group really were pro-life. I saw them that way first, and as Democrats, second. Of course, now we know that is not true, and yesterday for the first time, I saw that video of Stupak from Nov. which clearly indicated he had no principles in the pro-life fight.

The Democrats had to scheme, obfuscate, lie and distort to get this monstrous bill passed.

The passage of the bill was in their hands; the outcome and consequences of their action is now in ours.

I appreciate every moment of your energy and work.

Pelosi had a few pocket votes as well, even before Stupad did his thing. I heard rumors one TN congressman would vote w/ red queen, if she absolutely needed him but he preferred not to because he didn’t want to come back to angry constituents. Im wondering how many others she had tucked away just in case Stupad didn’t pull through for him.

(darn, keep misspelling his name. gotta get a new keyboard)

It was just all for show. The Great Pelosi worked so hard for this, pulling off the most amazing feat of her political life. I call BS. It’s all been orchestrated from the beginning so that they could hide this, move that, make it harder to find. Now the CBO wasn’t an easy deal to pull off, that they did have to work hard for. They overworked those poor bastards until they couldn’t see straight then sent in the worst garbage on earth and got the worst garbage on earth out. Then when the true numbers came out, well, now, we have this preliminary and that’s all we need to show. And with the lame stream media’s support that’s all anyone heard. THE NUMBERS FIT, WE MUST COMMIT!

With this Stupak deal the pro-choicers should have walked right out of the vote… but they didn’t. Oh yeah, they moaned and groaned, great show wasn’t it?

And here is the true kicker… they know the Senate isn’t going to accept the reconcillation bill sent to them. The senate wouldn’t even attempt to speak to the pubs till the vote was over. We all know the writing on the wall and if those who passed this bill didn’t know they must all be brain dead.

No the deal has all along been to accept the Senate BILL. All of them knew it, we were just forced to watch the childish pageant.

Dan thank you so much for all of your hard work. I depended on your posts so much to help keep me focused and level.

The Progressives are feeling full of themselves this morning. They shouldn’t be. This seems all like a great idea to them today.

Invading Russia seemed like the right thing to do in June of 1941, too. Too bad for the Germans it didn’t turn out that way.

There are hideous unintended consequences buried in this ambitious overreach of a bill for the Democrats. Matters are worse for the country, as the bill comes due for other things.

You did your best to try and save the country, Dan. Tip of the hat to you sir. As Reagan remarked after losing in 1976, “I lay me down and bleed a while, then get up to fight again.”

I also think NRLC failed in a big way in this fight. They essentially lost without fighting.

…lies and deceptions cut from the same soul bank..

Surely Greta seemed not to know about it. Seems odd to think it was out there all along, yet no one knew about it. Wonder if a health care supporter captured Stupak’s performance at a town hall and didn’t put this up until after his “victory,” To rub it in?

BTW, Dan, you did a great job. Thanks for your work on this issue and for your contributions to this site, a site I’ve only recently discovered.

Thanks for all your hard work, and for keeping us informed. Rest, then let’s fight again.

I had a “bad” feeling about Stupak when I saw a “D” after his name…

As to the “15 minutes of fame” that these turncoats are getting, I think we should be putting pressure on the Conservative news outlets to shun them if they went back on their word.

If FOX News truly wants to be the media outlet of the future, they are going to have to stop caving to the Socialists on the left. If someone says they are going to do something, and they lie about it, then their megaphone needs to be turned off then and there, and they need to suffer the consequences of their actions.

We’re ready to get after it – let’s roll…..

Dan you were awesome. I think you were right on with the count and the Stupak doublecross put it over the top. I keep hearing that a strong candidate will emerge very soon. Conservative legislator who will take Stupak out. Everyone needs to get ready to help this guy as soon as its public. Give him the Joe Wilson, Scott Brown, Marco Rubio treatment.

Cook Political has has district as a blue. But hard blue with no chance, or blue dog demo? Anyone in WI 1 got details of your district? If Benishek is the one to get stupak out, can we get an interview with this guy. ? Stupak helped cause this mess he should see how we “slaughter”.

their charade was pretty slick. Ole Bart thought he’d get to have it both ways, protect the statist monster and maintain his pro-life creds. His weasel maneuvers are creating all sorts of political backfiring.

1. He made the taxpayer-funded abortions a very real and apparent issue. Now everyone knows that Obamacare forces taxpayers to fund abortions. Shortly, it will also become apparent that it offers no conscience protections for hospitals and health-care workers who refuse to perform them.

2. He’s awakened and rallied pro-lifers. After years of defeats in the courts and legislatures, pro-life activism had died down. The nation has become more pro-life in the years and now we have targets.

3. He made it apparent that there is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat. No one will ever trust the pro-life assurances of any Dem candidate again. Ever. (In the same way, the Myth of the Blue Dog has been exposed as well, but that was a large group effort.)

True pro-lifers who have supported the Dems up til now have some serious soul-searching to do.

4. He made himself and his alleged Stupak pro-life gang highly visible targets.

5. He nationalized his own congressional race. Yesterday afternoon Dr. Dan Benishek was an unknown with 400 FaceBook members– he had no website and no means of accepting online contributions. In 18 hours he’s skyrocketed to close to 14,000 members and is the talk of the internet.

Had Stupak and his Judases folded early there would have been an outcry, but it would never have matched this. Instead he held out hope, created drama, made himself and his cohort the center of attention at a critical time then very publicly sold out without even the semblance of a fig leaf. For this, he’s unleashed a massive outpouring of anger, not only from pro-lifers, but from every Obamacare opponent who dared to hope.

Nicely played Bart, nicely played.

I would like to join in with others and say ‘thank you’, Dan. I appreciate all of your efforts and all of your reporting throughout the debacle. You did a wonderful job and kept us all informed and aware of what was transpiring. As a Texan, I look at yesterday as the Alamo and the Battle of San Jacinto has yet to be fought. We will prevail!

Thanks again, Dan.

should never been trusted. Any conservative voting for these people deserve what they get.

And Stupak was honest…he was ALWAYS going to vote for this thing, if he got cover on abortion. People in his district should have known better.

http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=10474

Stupak = The nations number one baby killer

Bart, you will never win another election.

Thing as a “Moderate Democrat.” or for that matter, a Prolife Democrat. Stupak did exactly what conservatives predicted he would do and that was to lie and connive to his constitutents, and then fine some lame excuse to sell out. This low life hypocrite must be voted out of office, along with his socialist democrats including old tired a$$, Rep. Dale Kildee. Don’t lose hope no matter that the socialist and baby killers has won the first battle. The war has just begun. Renowned Attorney, Jay Sekulow, appeared on FOX and was ask if a court challenge “Had Legs,” Jay replyed and predicted, that not only does it have legs, but that the Supreme Court will rule the bill unconstitutional. Article lll, Section 2, Clause 2, states in part: “In all cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be a Party, the supreme Court shall have Orginal Jurisdiction.” This means that the States can go directly to the Supreme Court with their case and and not be burdened with going to the inferior Federal Courts with their leftist liberal BO Judges.

for all the hard work you did keeping us informed and up-to-date on this issue. This was no small feat in the face of the minute-to-minute updates required as more and more bribes were exposed. And I firmly believe that more and more of these bribes will be exposed in the near future.

I agree that by dragging this thing out we learned a lot about the Democrats. Bribes, backroom deals, and my favorite, Mr. Clyburn saying they were just making up the rules as they went along.

While we would like to think that our elected officials are honorable and ethical, we have seen that the Democrats actually have the morals of a bunch of alley cats.

So to Mr. Stupak I say…..”Here kitty kitty. I have something special waiting for you in November.”

The blood of the aborted babies paid for by our tax dollars is on stupid stupak’s hands…when he sleeps at night I hope he is haunted by dreams of the babies he PROFESSED to protect, but instead, sold out for a worthless piece of paper from the Liar in Chief.

Stupid stupak is TOAST. He will never be re-elected in our lifetimes. Hope it was worth it for your pieces of silver.

Healthcare is NOT a right. Socialism sucks.

I’m sure Stupak’s chief of staff would appreciate hearing from you.

scott.schloegel@mail.house.gov

this EO was meant for political cover.

Stupak and any legislator with a heartbeat should know that EOs can be amended and recinded with a secondary EO and that this one essentially means nothing .. aside from law taking precedence over EOs.

This is political cover for the folks at home who aren’t watching analysis or the blogosphere and get their news from word of mouth, maybe.

Cover, cover, cover. Stupak and his stupid block know this. I disagree on the point that they traded their vote for a piece of paper. They know it’s worthless.

Dan and everyone else watching, monitoring and reporting on Stupak and his block could not have done anything different, I think, and they deserve our praise and gratitude.

Now we can simply consider all Dems are liars, even the “pro-life” ones who claim to be” principled.”

It’s a very simple lesson we’ve learned: never, ever, EVER trust a dem.

I’m very angry.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Dan, for everything.

They’re the bad guys and you did not fail us, in ANY measure.

Thanks, Redstate.

not just 220 . remember scot brown was a 35 point underdog, that puts even pelosi in the crosshairs and now that mc cain finegold is dead here’s an idea why not incorporate REDSTATE as a limited liability company so they can raise and spend as much as they like to run ads in every single district and state.. MONEYBOMB anyone?

on The Front Page.

switch parties in Idaho?

Dan
Will the next double croos be that the reconciliation bill will die on the vine?
Thanks for your hard work in a tough fight. It’s not over either. It will never be over. You give us courage to continue.

A great idea from the “hillbuzz” guys!

Our idea, initially, was to coin “stupak” as either a noun or a verb to describe an act of betrayal, Benedict Arnold style.

But, on reflection, we think “stupak” should become a euphemism for “abortion”.

“Stupak Clinics”.

“Teen pregnancies ending in stupaks”.

“Stupaks being performed on millions of the unborn”.

If the conservative/moderate/independent community started using “stupak” to replace the word “abortion”, it would catch on. At least to the degree “santorum” did.

Every day should be a reminder to Bart Stupak what he did, and the principles he betrayed. Whenever he looks his name up on Bing — and we have a feeling he’s the type who Bings himself every day, to see how popular he is and admire goofy pictures of himself looking as ugly as he does, because, wow, is that guy ever ugly — he needs to see clearly how his name will forever be associated with what the Democrats did yesterday, in moving to federally fund abortions.

Looking forward to what comes next in Senate. It is going back to Senate right?Can this somehow die there or is it the law of the land after O signs it?

He was a Democrat before Sunday.

From now on, the word for a dissembling, sneaky, snake-in-the-grass should be a “Stupak.”

Congratulations to the Susan B. Anthony Fund for dismissing him.

What’s the next course of action now? Do you believe that this will be the law of the land or do you believe we can work hard to repeal it?

throughout the entire process, Dan. Thank you for your very hard work. Only God knows the hearts of men, and you could only base your assessment on his (Stupak’s) recent words and actions.

Well, its been buggin dems all morning. Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas) admitted he was the one who shouted “baby killer” at Stupak.

Today he apologized .

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/88331-neugebauer-admits-baby-killer-exclamation

I have told people since last year that this was a done deal.The Democrats have been the majority party since January 20 2007 when they had 230 members in the House and a majority in the Senate. Many of the voters bought the “last eight years” nonsense in 2008 because amny are gullible , mis-informed and un-informed. They now have 253 members. They had had at least 216 all along and the only question was which ones of the other thirty seven in vulnerable districts would be allowed to vote “NO”.

I saw an interview with Stupak at 1pm today. He seemed visibly nervous in comparison to his earlier appearances. Stupak admitted that the executive order could be repealed anytime. Stupak was asked why he caved and stated that his coaliation had fallen apart. The interviewer than mentioned that there were still four of them and that four could have stopped it. Stupak then answered that he made the best deal possible and the Bill needed to be passed. The interviewer then read a statement by a Pro choice group that thanked Stupak for his vote and said that left a loophole for them. So what did Stupak get for his vote?

This was not a Health care Bill. It is an Insurance reform Bill. Look at the Stock market today. All the Health Care stocks are up.They wouldbe down if the News was adverse. The AARP is a big sponsor of thsi Bill. They are all salivating over the thirty two miilion new prospects for their Health Care divisions.

I have seen several Constitutional Professors on T.V. and most of them say a Constitutional challenge by the States is slim and none becaause historically the U.S. Supreme court is hesitant to interfere with an Equal Branch of Government and could refuse to hear it.Even if they do ti could be three or four years.

stupak@mail.house.gov If you want to get through, Be sure to use one of the ZIP Codes listed below as your ZIP Code. You can use your own City and State if an address is needed or any address you can think of in one of the cities listed below. Stupak represents these Citys as follows:

Alpena, Zip 49707 Escanaba Zip 49829
Houghton, Zip 49931 Sault Saint Marie Zip 49783
Marquette Zip 49855
Petoskey Zip 49770 If needed the last four Any four numbers
Ishpeming Zip 49849 Think of ie; 0123 Do It!!!!
Iron Mountain Zip 49801
Ironwood Zip 49938

bribe or something. I never saw it coming, thought he was really against abortion…well he did sell for 726,409 fetus….
God Help Him

play in convincing Stupak to accept President Obama’s secretive EO deal?

This whole deal smells of thuggery…

I appreciate all your time and effort into this most worthy cause. It is not wasted. We will build on it and win next time. Thank you also for patiently responding to our questions (and pages). : )

Tom Stillings is the viable candidate vs Stupak, visit www.stillingsforcongress.com and on facebook “stillings for congress” , add as a friend and share.