I am glad Orrin Hatch found something besides college footbal playoffs to pay attention to. I have yet to figure him out.

It must be disgusting to rool around in the muck with all those proto-commie donks. I am disappointed that thereare so many in congress that hate the USA and want toturn it into a Euro piece of garbage. sorry Europe but your political system stinks.

The last thing the House Dems ought to do is believe their own party’s leadership. In the end, the bucket of water they are carrying is going to start springing leaks. They really should take a deep breath and listen to the people and kill the toxic bill.

In an episode long long ago, Homer advises Bart:

“Always give in to peer pressure. It’s just easier that way.”

We will see how many jellyfish Dems cave in this week: I still see it passing for various reasons, but hope, as always, that Mr. Perrin’s analysis will be correct.

But when/if the votes are there, you will see a mad dash to have the vote: no waiting until Saturday or anything, and then it will be sent to MAObama.

The Revolution will then begin!

This is all about Obama winning. That’s all. He can’t lose this now or everyone will feel his presidency is a failure. He just wants to say he was successful at passing healthcare. Then, he will move on and instruct the media to move on and the American public won’t hear about this anymore, except only in passing and on Fox and talk radio. If there are any Dems with a love for democracy and this country and who have any principles left, they will not go along with this procedural slight of hand. But, I have little faith and saddly, we will be living under Obamacare by this time next week.

I have never seen such a willingness to ignore the will of the people. Ironic that it’s from a party called democrat, as in democracy. I guess they like the representative republic model when it suits them.

“Health care will dominate the media all spring, unless the House kills it this week.”

Am I reading too much into this, or are you indicating that you no longer think it’s likely that the House kills it this week?

Thanks for your great work.

WE THE PEOPLE exercise our right to abolish this poor excuse for a United States government?

If the plug is pulled and the WH moves on to other things … are we not still stuck with the Senate version of regulation and rationing as the law of the law. We’ll still have the “Cadillac” tax and other tax increases, the kickbacks, bribes, payoffs and graft and all the rest of this POS?

I seriously don’t think that the Dem leadership cares one wit about the rank-and-file. This is war in a Maoist style. Fire up the troops and rush them to the front. If they get slaughtered … well we have more to take their place in time. The Progressives have waited a very long time to do their thing. I think that they are perfectly content to get the Senate bill as a foothold, and wait another 10, 20 , 30 years to fine tune it into a utopianist single-payer monoloithic system of control.

I think Point 7 is just as bad a Senate + Reconciliation.

The “inside baseball” is not to be underestimated. While this certainly is only one potential roadblock, this has not been reported anywhere else.

I am hearing from some friends on the Hill Democrats simply don’t have the votes to pass this vis a vis normal process right now- otherwise it would be brought for a vote. That facts makes it evermore possible Democrats will pull out all the “sleight of hand” tricks and undemocratic processes to pass this albatross. In turn, that raises of the importance of your information- significantly.

Thanks for a job well done. Oh, and wash your hands if you touch any Democrats.

1. Re Byrd Rule. In this case, the House would pass the Senate bill on the promise that Reid will “fix” it. Are you saying the threat of GOP blocking any fixes will keep dems from getting the votes? Because if it gets to the point where we have to uphold the Byrd rule, its too late, we already have Obamacare.

2. Re Slaughter rule, pass it without voting. I thought the parliamentarian ruling last week killed that option?

for changing their minds – despite the John Kerry flip-flop tag. Kerry was known as squishy anyway. And, he voted to pass the Iraq War, which was the important vote anyway. The damage was done.

These people have a chance to change their minds before the vote is taken because they have seen the discomfort with the bill amongst the public. They can still be forgiven if they actually kill the bill that the majority of Americans don’t want.

Also, do you think they would believe a promise by GOP leadership that they will take up the health care issue next year? Someone suggested that on some other site.

P.S. Are they being kept in some kind of sealed chamber, not able to read the news?? What’s with them not knowing what people are saying out here in the editorials? Or are they only reading editorials favorable to the leadership shoving the bill down our throats?

Nancy Pelosi, upon attaining the Speakership, promised that she would drain the ethical swamp left behind by the horrible, disgusting Bush/Cheney crowd and its supporters. Gullible Dems and Independents thought that the intellectual giants who lead the Democrat Party would transform the swamp into a New Age Garden of Eden. Did Nancy deliver on her promise? Gosh, I don’t think so. To this humble observer, it appears that she built a dam to make the swamp deeper and then started pumping in toxic waste. The atmosphere in Congress is now as poisonous as it was in the decade before the Civil War, when members of the House and Senate regularly went onto the floor armed with revolvers.
This state of affairs will persist until the Democrat Party, willingly or unwillingly, purges itself of the members of the Progressive Caucus and its enablers. The goal of this cabal of radicals is to destroy our Constitutional system from within and replace it with a Third World-style centralized oligarchy.

I heard Hoyer saying they play by the rules. What he didn’t say was that Dems change the rules to suit themselves in the middle of the game.

This is the liberal living constitution in action. When the constitution is deemed living, every branch is welcome to interpret and use it as they wish.

I sincerely hope you are right, but writing letters reminds me of what the UN is good a doing and it never gets anyone anywhere. Granted, in this case the letter does provide leverage other than just a collection of words, but the GOP should have been shutting down the Senate last week and really letting this thing cook.

I am really, really glad to know that you are up there actually doing something. Perhaps I should have known you were more than just a writer for this site and actually had inside contacts. You always seem to optimistic I was beginning to wonder if it was just wishful thinking, but you obviously have your eyes and ears inside the pits of hell itself in DC. I am beginning to feel better about this.

I am still flummoxed the GOP did not do a pincher maneuver and shut down the Senate as well as use the letter. To the point, why are you required to bring the letter to the attention of the Dems in the House? Is the Senate GOP asleep again? It smells a lot to me like the GOP performed a token gesture and it is taking you to go out and actually make it mean something to the real targets of the letter. You remind me a lot of someone I work on the side with who is my political mentor and a man of action.

Thanks for your work. If this bill passes, it won’t be because Dan Perrin and many on this site did not try to stop it. I am really impressed that there are others here who understand leveraged pressure vs. just storming the gates pressure. The first has a lot more efficacy as I learned last year.

Keep up the good work.

I just hope the VP does not overrule. I do not hold out hope the Dems won’t use everything in their power to pass this. However, I think if they do and we can expedite a SCOTUS hearing, they might be more likely to strike down the mandate and ObamaCare is dead.

If you haven’t seen it, both liberals and conservative should watch Lawrence O’Donnell’s take of health care on Morning Joe this morning…it is priceless.

http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=10427

but I really don’t see what all the hubbub is about re the Slaughter option. Instead of voting on the Senate bill itself, the House will vote on a rules package that includes the Senate bill. So what? How is this different from either house of Congress voting on something labeled the “Serviceman and Woman Housing Opportunity Act” that just happens to include, say, an amendment to the Wildlife Protection Act and an earmark for the construction of a Bridge to Somewhere? It’s still getting voted on, whether it’s the main purpose of the main piece of legislation or not.

Granted, the Dems are shooting themselves in the feet because all the talk now is of the unconstitutionality of the procedure, but I just don’t see it. In addition, I don’t see the purpose in it. Is Joe or Jane Voter, upset at the passage of ObamaCare, going to forgive his or her Congressman because he/she voted for a package of rule amendments that included one saying the Senate bill is deemed passed? No. Joe and Jane will be upset that the bill got by the House. The mechanics of the passage, I think, will be irrelevant to him/her.

In any case, if ObamaCare passes the House, the fact that it was done through the Slaugher option will be the least of my grievances.

But I’m willing to be convinced otherwise.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/15/AR2010031503156.html

your efforts are appreciated by SO many!

I am headed now to Tanner’s regional office to protest the bill. He is not my rep, but closeby. I feel like it is a waste of time.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/16/house-republicans-to-force-vote-on-pelosis-slaughter-house-solution/