The Cornhusker Kickback was ugly, but not really unusual. Stuff like that happens all the time, and it legal. But it was a bigger stage.

“Deeming” such a major bill passed via incorporation could cause a major constitutional crisis. This is unprecedented. This is nuclear.

I think they’d use brownshirts if that’s what it took to get this debacle through. It’s going to pass, somehow; there’s no doubt in my mind. I realize they’re all in on this, but this latest deadline just indicates to me that it’s just a matter of time and bribes before they call the vote. Hopefully it can be challenged on legal grounds.

Ref: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100315/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul

Obama is headed to Ohio to say that the campaign is over to say that everything that needs to be said has already been said to troll for votes.

But the bigger news is that he says bribes for votes are okay … as long as they bribe two states at a time.

Still seeking votes for his proposed health care overhaul, President Barack Obama appears ready to reverse his position and allow unpopular deal-sweetening measures in the hopes of finding Democratic support for legislation whose future will be decided in coming days.
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Taking a new position, Axelrod said the White House only objects to state-specific arrangements, such as an increase in Medicaid funding for Nebraska, ridiculed as the “Cornhusker Kickback.” That’s being cut, but provisions that could affect more than one state are OK, Axelrod said.
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Axelrod said the principles the White House wants to apply include “Are these applicable to all states? Even if they do not qualify now, would they qualify under certain sets of circumstances?”

These wavering blue dogs might as well pair up and name their price, because that’s what’s going on now. We can call it the “buddy bribe” system. It’s worked for Alaska and Hawaii for a long time, so maybe it’s time the other 48 states get to play.

Logic seems to be in short supply on the Hill. Far be it from me to offer the President a way to save his DOOMED presidency, but it seems to me that if he was really a LEADER, and really was interested in being remembered as something besides “the President who destroyed the American health care system,” he could make one more of his infamous speeches but this time say something like: “You know, I’ve been thinking about this health care bill, and I’ve been listening to the American people. I’m going to take this off the table for now. We’re not ready to do this; there is too much disagreement about the details, and it is foolish to rush something this major through without careful deliberation. I want to include both the Democrats and the Republicans, and I don’t want to add one penny more to the national debt right now, so I’m going to suggest we take a break to focus on jobs and the economy, and come back to this next year.”

Now, I realize the chances of this happening are exactly zero, (or maybe negative 10), but what a win-win that would be for the EVERYONE. The democrats in congress won’t have to vote for a bill that everyone acknowledges is totally toxic, the Republicans will stop being called “the party of NO,” and the President will earn (maybe) the respect of the American people. Well, except for his far left base, but he hasn’t seemed particularly interested in catering to their every whim so far either, so what the heck.

I know, I know. If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride…

takeover of health care will have no legitimacy in the minds of Americans. A law that lacks a legal and moral foundation cannot be enforced. There will be massive resistance to it, demonstrations, court challenges.
We are entering uncharted territory. It’s going to be a bumpy ride if it passes.

in their mind. This is the way communists think. They tell people they are all for the little guy, gain power through force, then implement a plan that hurts all but the party elite. Enough of the masses believe the lie to help it all happen. At least the Dems are showing their true colors (I’m not saying they are commies, just using their tactics). Voters in the middle now know how far left the Democrat Party really is. They can no longer pretend to be centrists.

They do.

This is a historic level of incompetence, even for them..

http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=10397

but if it does it will be “Katie bar the door” on all freedoms in America! The democraps will move on the first and second amendment establishing DRASTIC limits to free speech (good-bye conservative talk radio, and web-sites). They will move to outright ban guns and ammunition.
What concerns me most is that even if does pass and the SCOTUS deems parts of it unconstitutional; with what is left may still be able to grow into health care socialization? I don’t think the SCOTUS can kill the whole bill.

Again, they are more than willing to take two steps back for the ten leaps ahead they’ll get. In 1944 the Allies imagined 50% casualties during the first assault waves, but felt the losses were acceptable for the ground the army would secure- for future operations.

We really have to get past the old ways of politics as usual. They are not playing by the rules and as they gain more power they will flaunt the rules even more. Tyrants come in many different forms; some are fat greasy dictators in South America, some are high stepping military types, and others are glad-handing, Harvard educated, men and women who inject their faces with botox, plug their head with hair, and think they are destined to rule.

Once you get past this, it is far easier to see what they are willing to do in order to keep their boots on our necks.

I think the NRCC and the conservative base should state in a very public way that our #1 target in 2010 will be any dems who switch from No to yes.

As it stands now, if we hold all our NOs from last time this bill doesn’t pass. And we know the 10 who are most on the fence. They need to know that we are going to really go after them.

Remind me of spoiled kids that have never been told no in their lives and had it stick. I hope the adults can hold them off long enough to get some semblance of sanity back into government. The safety of the country depends on it.

Do you just think they pass it now and we get stuck with universal healthcare?

Obama failing to support the Honduran government’s efforts to preserve their constitution. He is forever branded in my eyes as a rogue president from that moment.

Same thing again, only this time with Congress. This is beyond money kickbacks. That’s par for the course with the leftists. From the moment they proposed legislating in violation of explicit words in the constitution, they became a rogue congress.

Now we have a matching set.

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