Ending this health care nightmare comes down to one thing, and one thing only: expend all remaining to defeat the Senate bill in the House.
The Speaker cannot pass the Senate bill now. She does not have the votes. She has never had the votes — ever, to pass the Senate bill. (The AP list of 9 Dems who voted No who may vote yes is a fantasyland list — as in, if you think they will switch to Yes, you are living in Fantasyland. If a member who did vote No, now, when the politics are so clearly against it, switches to a yes, they might as well just resign. Which some might. But, really, it is good-bye for No votes that switch to Yes.)
While No votes switching to Yes is not credible, here is something that is credible. Yes votes that switch to No.
There is one New York Dem Yes vote who announced today, is now a no:
“U.S. Rep. Michael Arcuri, D-Utica, said Tuesday he would vote against the Senate version of the health care bill that could soon go before the House of Representatives for approval.
“Arcuri, who voted in early November in favor of the House version of the health care bill, said he is against the Senate bill for three main reasons:
“He doesn’t want to see the bill passed as a “mega bill,” and he believes more success would be had by breaking the bill apart and passing aspects of it incrementally, he said.
“Arcuri also said he isn’t comfortable with the possible Democratic strategy of passing the bill through reconciliation.”
Now, in order to attempt reconciliation in the Senate, the Speaker must pass the Senate bill first, without a single change to the bill, on the House floor. (The House Leadership is attempting to pass the changes to the Senate bill in reconciliation first, then vote on the Senate bill, but you cannot reconcile a bill not yet passed.)
Once more, the Speaker is making her Members walk the plank. This time the plank consists of the Senate bill that funds abortion, taxes health insurance premiums and cuts Medicare.
So defeating the Senate bill in the House:
1) Ends ObamaCare;
2) Stops reconciliation in the Senate;
3) Saves the country from months of health care blah, blah blah blah, blah blah; and
4) reboots the entire legislative process to Start Over, in Committee.
The Dem No votes from the fall of 2009 will hold, and Stupak’s pro-life Dems will vote against the bill. Therefore, it cannot pass.
Until the vote, however, House Dems are going to be subject to daily ObamaCare press stories, arm-twisting and generally annoying their voters with more politically toxic ObamaCare.
The Dem No votes and the pro-life votes must be told to vote against the Senate bill, from now until the House votes. Constant pressure will lock in the current No vote count.
Steve Maley
KnightsofMalta
Dan Spencer
Moe Lane
Dan McLaughlin
He's back!
stigmo Wednesday, March 3rd at 6:37PM EST (link)Thank you! I’m tired of being depressed every day.
One question: If they’re going to fail, why will they bring it up for a vote?
Every time we’ve thought we had them without, they have found a way to scrape the votes together (i.e. Nelson) in time for a vote. And what of the rumors that Pelosi had extra “yes” votes in her pocket from last time around? This meeting that Obama is having with 10 Dems tonight scares me because it seems like those shenanigans that brought about passage in the house and the Senate late last year.
I was feeling pretty good about our chances until now
earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:14PM EST (link)Any thought about whether the press on the judgeship will affect this guy’s timate vote. If he votes yea now than he is exposed.
Who else is meeting with Bambi? Seriously I was feeling great until now.
I don't think the meetings with Obama matter...
writeblock Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:08PM EST (link)…Obama has less clout than he had with his numbers tanking. He can’t promise to campaign for them–since to do so would actually do more harm than good. Besides–he’ll need more than ten more votes. Stupak has around twelve no votes as it is. And some yes votes are switching. I’m pretty optimistic.
Mr. Zero could promise that we *won't* campaign for Dem candidates.
SoFiMil (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:29PM EST (link)That’s about the only thing he has to offer. If I was a liberal, I’d be worried he’d break this promise as well.
www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
Not campaigning for them, is that a threat or a
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:29AM EST (link)promise?
Really, the only thing the Dem Congressmen need Obama to do is to raise money, and holding a fundraiser is a really high bar, and not many members get Obama to do it for them.
In addition, the negatives of voting for ObamaCare far outweigh any advantage from a fundraiser.
The two key reasons that the Dems will try when they
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:26AM EST (link)do not have the votes is that they believe 1) they need an end point to the process, other than Scott Brown got elected; and II) they will find the votes.
In addition, politically, their base needs the Dems to try reconciliation.
Defeat of the Senate bill on the House floor will provide that end point.
Weekly Standard: "Obama Now Selling Judgeships for Health Care Votes?"
josh_kahn Wednesday, March 3rd at 6:42PM EST (link)http://www.weeklystandard.com/tws/daily/daily.asp#blog-422291
Now we know why he held back on so many nominations
bk (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:12PM EST (link)Must have been saving them for a rainy day.
Isn't there
cari Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:13PM EST (link)anything we could “sell” these wobbly Dems to keep their vote a no?
Can’t two play this game? Is there anything the Republicans have that these Dems want- anything they could offer once they’re swept into power in November?
Not really, and I don't want them to try
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:33AM EST (link)since the public backlash from these deals is strong.
GOP should demand independent prosecutor
d_lamar Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:48PM EST (link)to look into whether bribery is being committed by BHO. GOP should do whatever it takes to make this a central issue. This could destroy the democrat party if an independent prosecutor could prove this outrage.
Rep. Jim Matheson from Utah.
joayn (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:09PM EST (link)According to the article, his brother seems pretty qualified. But … qualifications aren’t/don’t seem to be a priority with this administration.
Sent the guy an email to express my “concern” – he should be really, really, really insulted (not to mention pretty po’d) at the blatant Chicagoness of it all.
America is an idea; a noble idea that essentially boils down to the shocking belief that the masses are in fact not asses. John Nolte
One judgeship, one vote...
writeblock Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:13PM EST (link)…but it’s still only one vote.
If Nanazi could pass the Senate Bill
10ksnooker (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 6:45PM EST (link)she would have done it in January.
Agreed!
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:34AM EST (link)n/t
Her thinking, I think,
jaydickb Thursday, March 4th at 11:54AM EST (link)is that having a reconciliation bill ready to go will convince reluctant Dems to vote for the Senate bill. She didn’t have that bill ready in January.
I don’t know why any Dem in a red district would fall for this, but that seems to be Nancy’s strategy.
We need a huge DC rally
ehud (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 6:50PM EST (link)Dan is exactly right. The house has to pass the senate bill first otherwise there can be no reconciliation. But if the house passes the senate bill, we WILL have obamacare even if reconciliation doesn’t go through.
There will be unbelievable pressure put on the NO votes, and if there is one thing Pelosi is good at it is twisting arms. I think there is a reasonable chance Pelosi will get the votes somehow unless we change the political dynamics.
The best thing I can think of is a GIANT rally in DC where we physically try to block congress from entering the capitol for a day or two. If they call in the police to drag us away, so much the better. Can you imagine what the political effect would be on the nation as people watch Obama make the police drag away thousands of people who are trying to stop him from bankrupting our country and destroying our health care? His contempt for the people will hammered home in a way that no amount of words could convey.
But we need some of our leaders to call this rally. Glenn Beck, DeMint, Bachmann, Coburn, Pence, are you listening?
Read my diary entry today:
http://www.redstate.com/ehud/2010/03/03/march-on-washington-2/
If someone has a better idea I want to hear it.
Ryan/? 2012
Um.
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:09PM EST (link)The Right had three HUGE rallies in DC last year, and none of them did a lick of good in stopping the House and Senate from passing healthcare bills. Rallies do absolutely nothing to stop this Congress from progressing on its agenda. And the idea that we could “block” members from entering the capitol is just absurd. The members don’t walk to the capital. They have underground tunnels with their own subway system.
The people already have contempt for this bill. We don’t need a rally to gin up popular anxiety.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
There's a tax day tea rally..
tngal (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:27PM EST (link)Planned for April 15th already. In DC and everywhere apparently. Anyway- they lose their effectiveness if held to often and close together. Given that its coming up next month and has been publicized for quite awhile, generating an “emergency” one would be a tough sell.
The bottom line
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:38PM EST (link)is that protests and marches just don’t work. They are a nice display of popular unrest, and it is your right to participate in one, but when it comes to actual policy influence, the only thing that matters is elections. Unfortunately, we still have 7 months to go before we can effect policy in DC. Another rally won’t do a lick of good.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
the reason they didn't work
ehud (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:27PM EST (link)is because the media didn’t report them. Especially the 9-12 rally. it was like a media blackout everywhere but Fox and even then they said there were only ‘tens of thousands’. There was at least 250,000.
Ryan/? 2012
Please.
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:16PM EST (link)You don’t think the Congressmen knew what was going on outside their own offices? All they had to do was look outside their office windows and see the thousands of people amassed outside. The media coverage didn’t affect it one way or the other. They knew what was going on and they still passed the bills.
It’s a nice thought, but your idea hasn’t worked up to now, and it won’t work in the future. The only change mechanism is elections. So hold your breath for 7 more months.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
Dead wrong
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:14PM EST (link)You are dead wrong. There just hasn’t been a BIG enough showing. It may not stop these Marxists from passing the bill, but it aligns the country and demonstrates to the world the resistance and anger that is out there in the country. You didn’t learn the lesson that the left has used effectively. I used to be among them, so I know what I’m talking about. You need to get bodies on the street. Nothing can be accomplished without that. If you don’t do that, you are ultimately judged to be willing to live with whatever they do. You completely miss the reality of the situation. My own solution, being a former extreme radical, I cannot mention here because Janet is watching. You get the drift.
Visuals mean nothing if the bill becomes law.
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:28PM EST (link)If 9/12 was really one of the biggest marches in the history of Washington, then you’ve got all the proof you need that these people won’t listen to public protests. You’re third sentence just reinforces what I am saying. The healthcare bill is for all the marbles. If we don’t stop it now, there is no going back. Showing the world our resolve doesn’t matter one iota if the bill passes. All that matters is what the law says. If enormous protests and marches won’t deter them from passing this thing (and after multiple demonstrations, they still haven’t) then the only way to do so is at the ballot box.
Bottom line: If marching won’t “stop the Marxists from passing the bill” then it is a worthless effort. Marching may rally the troops, but an energized movement won’t be worth a bucket of spit if health care is on the books. The die will have been cast. We are better off organizing for November and pushing the Republicans to delay this thing as long as possible.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
If President Obama signs healthcare "reform" into law...
rbdwiggins (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:09PM EST (link)in spite of the overwhelming opposition from the American people to the government take-over of our healthcare system, his precious healthcare “reform” will not be funded by the 112th Congress, nor implemented by any future congress, because the grassroots movement to nullify or repeal the legislation and indict those politicians who abrogated their constitutional responsibilities and sought to govern without consent will prevail.
The winning campaign slogan for the 2010 mid-term and the 2012 general has already been written: “Nullify, Repeal and Indict.” (H/T– V.B.)
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
Some help ?
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:17PM EST (link)Marching is the beginning of something bigger. You will not win this simply by campaigning in elections. You need to turn out people for bigger change. The marching will influence the elections. People want to join something they can see. You need to be visible. You are deluded that you can do this behind the scenes (elections only) and effect a change of direction in the inexorable path of the country since FDR toward collectivism. You are taking a view that is too narrow, though I sense you are a smart person who perhaps has not considered part of the bigger picture, and likely has not dealt with these folks in realtime, on the street. It is not a worthless effort, even if it doesn’t stop the bill. It bolsters the guts of our largely gutless Republican congressional population, who for a change sees something visible that encourages them to ignore MSM and gain confidence to have strength and pursue a course of action that repudiates statism. Don’t forget, Cap and Trade is behind this, and the leftists have not given up. Card check, despite what you have heard, is on the table, as are many other things. We need to demonstrate that millions of Americans are willing to go out and do something visible, to oppose this. Hopefully, that will be enough. IF not, you better consider other options.
You are right
mavericktime Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:35PM EST (link)BIG protests are needed, but April 15 is too late.
GOTV and voting
houstoneagle (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:18PM EST (link)works far better than civil disobedience to effect change.
Just help make the landslide Republican victory this fall as huge as possible. Don’t waste time going to a rally to Capitol Hill which is filled with majorities that don’t give a rat’s behind about you or what you want.
And if you live in a congressional district of one of these Stupak / no voters, now is the time to write, email, call, telegraph, text message, and smoke signal your Congressperson to hold the line. Great entry by Dan.
If this somehow gets rammed through Congress, we will defund it on January 3rd, and we will repeal it 2 years after that. So don’t panic. But I’m not giving one bit of license not to do whatever you should reasonably be doing (contacting all three of your Congresspersons) to destroy this Frankensteinian monstrosity of a health care bill once and for all.
“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
Does anyone remember the tactics of the 1960s
Bill Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:13PM EST (link)Civil Rights Movement and the Anti-War crowd? The major tactic as I remember was the SIT INS and Marches. Now we know that Marches on Washington does not get the coverage from the MSM, right. What about 100,000s of people in the Districts across USA where the “undecided votes Reps reside”? Or even better, Sit Ins at the District offices of the Representatives, blocking the doors, etc. Hey, it worked for them, didn’t it? A little “civil disobedience to demonstrate the serious attitudes that the people have for the contempt shown by the Reps for the people for whom they work”. Waiting for November will not work! Even if the GOP wins, they will not have the guts, gonads, gumption or whatever you want to call it to ROLL IT BACK and over ride an Obama Veto! Pitchforks and Tomatoes and saddle up gang!
Beside, anyone read the story of the latest polls in the UK? The Tory Conservatives were up in the polls over Labour by double digits 2 months ago. Now the latest polls show only a lead of 2% to 10% depending on the poll taken. Don’t think that same thing can’t happen or won’t happen here with the GOP. Did you not notice how Jim Bunning has been demonized in the MSM this week? What Republican has stepped out and supported him or even explained that he was not fillbustering, just following rules by objecting to a “unaminous conset order” versus a full vote for the bill, which would put everyone on record for the vote! See what I mean. They are all crooks, regardless of the D or R or I.
Thank God! November 3, 2010. U.S. House, GOP 290, DEM 145; U.S. Senate, GOP 70, DEM 28, IND 2. Keep on praying!
Wake up.
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:20PM EST (link)The radicals that were marching in the streets in the 60s are now in Congress. They didn’t take crap 40 years ago when they were pot smoking hippies, and they sure as heck won’t take it now that they have power. Marching, protesting, screaming doesn’t do any good with these people. They were hell-bent on winning in the 60s, and they are hell-bent on winning now. You can’t reason with it, you just have to defeat it at the ballot box.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
I agree with you, but they know it worked then and
Bill Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:52PM EST (link)may fear it will work now. If you think waiting for a vote in November, 2010 will stop this crap, you are smoking some powerful pot! They are willing to fall on their swords and committ suicide to get this power grab in place. They are betting once on the books, the GOP will not have the guts or glory to roll it back and know that unless there is a veto over riding numbers in the House and Senate, Obama will veto any attempts to change it, and you know that! So what is your Plan B for now, not November? Another thing, remember the Minnesota Senate election, where Acorn stuffed the ballot boxes? Don’t think there will not be cheating in November, cause if you do, you are deadly wrong. Stop it now or regret it later!
Thank God! November 3, 2010. U.S. House, GOP 290, DEM 145; U.S. Senate, GOP 70, DEM 28, IND 2. Keep on praying!
Rally's are great but can be overused
tngal (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:33PM EST (link)I love a good uprising. They energize the base. If big enough they strike fear in the opponents. And COMBINED with the smaller town hall meetings where they could see we were going to pursue this everywhere they went, a few votes might have been swayed.
BUT –
They can be overused. I mean every month? They’ll really tire out a base and will lose their effectiveness. Its like every politician now is having a ‘money bomb’. I mean every one. Obscure ones running for school board. What’s up with that?
you have no clue
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:55PM EST (link)You are clearly a political neophyte. Every month ? EVERY DAY. YOU ARE CLUELESS. Get a clue. You will loose this with your current approach.
Here is an interesting video of Stupak
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 2:08AM EST (link)saying the Senate bill is tainted and the process is tainted and the House vote on the Senate bill will not even come close to passing it:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/03/03/rep_stupak_health_care_process_has_been_tainted.html
and,
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:58PM EST (link)if the ‘base’ gets tired, we were going to loose this anyway because Americans have lost their guts. 30% of the ‘founders’ did not survive the revolution. I think most of us are not willing to do what is necessary. Might as well just focus on what movie is coming out and stop wasting your time in politics, because it’s all over.
Yeah, I was there in the 60's
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:53PM EST (link)on the other side. You are completely right, but these folks just don’t get it. They are sitting in their lazyboys, blogging away in the abstract… ‘Gee, I hope we win the election, but I’m not going to inconvenience my old ass by getting out of my chair and going out into the streets’. I guess that is not surprising, given that most of the folks on here don’t know who their opponents are. They have no clue. And they have never been in the streets, most haven’t been to a tea party, and they don’t understand burning political passion… the left does understand it. I was a radical activist in the 60s… SDS…. and I have been to tea parties. I grew up, realized what the real world was all about. Lol… sorry, I’m sort of fed up tonight by the funny comments about ‘waiting for elections’. They don’t understand that things have fundamentally changed. They don’t understand that the people they are opposing will do ANYTHING to reach their objectives. They don’t understand that these folks are not going to go away because of an election. D*&m it !!! they will CONTROL YOU !!! And everything you do in your life. If you think this country will be restored with the political activities that have been sufficient for the last 200 years, you are sadly mistaken. And, you just don’t get it.
You think you know us pretty well for 2 months and 11 days jonas
nessa (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:14PM EST (link)How long have you been a Precinct Committeeman?
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Contributor to Unified Patriots
teh twitter
I didn't get to reply for some reason
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 11:01PM EST (link)to Nessa’s comments below…. How long have I been a Precinct Committeeman ? If that is directed to me, I have a Pricinct Committeeman in place, and the job’s not open. I was a Pricinct Committeeman for 25 years. I started in politics in ’64, campaigning for Goldwater with John Shadegg and the rest of our conservative student group. I suspect that is more involvement in politics than most on this blog. So my conservative bona fides are in place and it shouldn’t matter if I have been registered here for only several months. Geez, you sound like a leftist…. man, I was active when you probably were in diapers. This is a club for those who registered early on this site ? Not a good method for expanding your cause. This should be rough and tumble, and I think it is and I am grateful for that, and the forum. I was probably somewhat over the top tonight, and I apologize if I offended, but if this is real life, within bounds that should be acceptable. After all, this is serious business we are dealing with, and if you read all my comments, hopefully you can tell that I’m not a drive-by shooter. I know what I’m talking about. I stand behind everything I’ve said tonight. If that shakes your world, I’m sorry, but if so, your world is not reality, I respectfully submit.
and to clarify
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 11:06PM EST (link)I spent 8 years captured by the leftist movement in the 60s and 70s…. glad I finally came to my senses…. but I don’t regret it. It was an education that I couldn’t get any other way. And I understand who our opponents are. I seriously don’t think that most on the right do. I see no evidence of it.
You're not shaking my world Jonas...
nessa (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 11:39PM EST (link)You’ve got some good points and some fire, especially for someone approximately the same age as dirt.
LOL.
Some of your comments came off somewhat accusatory, and I was just hoping to slow your roll just a little. Not overly so, but just a little. The tone I got from several of your comments, the things about just sitting around in our recliners, etc. aren’t going to get any reasonable feedback from anyone here. You’ve already drawn Neil’s attention, he’s got roughly the same amount of patience as Wild Bill Hickok was rumored to possess, shooting a man for snoring and all. No need for that, especially with someone of your bonafides.
We’ve got quite a few de-programmed leftists, alot of very active activists, veterans, even a demonsheep. Stick around a while, you’ll like it.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Contributor to Unified Patriots
teh twitter
Thanks, I get your point.
Jonas Parker Thursday, March 4th at 9:55AM EST (link)And will take your advice. In truth, I don’t want to get shot for snoring
jonas, I am so happy for you
tngal (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 11:35PM EST (link)First, I’m happy you’re out of work, or maybe you are your own boss and have the luxury of taking of several days a month of to attend a rally in a state far, far away. You must have a heck of a boss.
Additionally, I’m delighted you are independantly wealthy that you can afford airfair and/or gas expense from say Utah, Montana, California, Arizona, heck any place west of the Mississippi. You are truly blessed.
Also, my heart sings knowing you have no other committments in your life , (elderly parents, children, board meetings, volunteering, chain gang rock breaking, whatever) and that a two or three day excursion for a rally in another time zone is inconsequential. Go get em tiger.
But its not the same for everyone. The faithful will tire. Rallying the troops like Patton is one thing – but if you don’t respect them they won’t re-up for another hitch.
I'm sorry you will probably not read this
Jonas Parker Thursday, March 4th at 10:54PM EST (link)because the blog is getting old, but to let you know, I do not have the advantages you mention to the degree you describe, and I have most of the disadvantages that you mention. There is no reason to fly to DC for everything. Tea parties and demonstrations in your locality are just as important. I was pretty aggressive last night, and I will watch that in the future.
However, when you tell me that the ‘faithful will tire’, and they won’t re-up for another hitch, that is very disheartening. Because, what you are really saying, is that the resolve does not exist to turn this around. The opposition will not tire. They will pursue, as they are demonstrating, their beliefs to the last drop of blood. If our faithful tire, they are not so faithful, are they ? And in fact, sounds like it just takes a good fight to send them running. Wow.
Your scenario is very bleak. Sort of ‘sorry, but I’m too busy to save my country’… isn’t there some truth in that ?
in boston,
billymorris68 Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:42PM EST (link)I go to work and print out ann coulter, jonah golberg, pat buchanan etc. articles into a boston.com/globe “reformatted for printing” shell. then I drop them in the bathroom stalls of my building. and on the T. I put coakley signs in the drink. I carry an XL sharpie. I engage neighbors/co workers. you lie stickers. harrass kerry and markey staffers.
helps me sleep.
I called for killing 170 million people!
I like it a whole lot
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:35AM EST (link)and lots of town hall type input from constituents
Dahlkemper
docinpa Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:09PM EST (link)…in PA-3 is telling us (her constituents) that she’s voting no without the Stupak language. Hmmmmm….could Queen Nancy be hallucinating?
That could be (another) real sign
Return to Revolution (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:57PM EST (link)of both the delusional state Pelosi is in as well as the fragile state of the entire thing. Dahlkemper is a walking Pelosi puppet who doesn’t give a rats arse about her constituents. If she is voting no, Pelosi is beyond toast.
Out of hand Constitutional fetishist
yayyyyyyy! :-) I hope you're right as rain! :-) nt
houstoneagle (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:19PM EST (link)“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
Toast
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:36AM EST (link)Yep.
I think it will be the end point of this process, not the one the Dems were looking for but the one they get.
Will the "no's" be able to withstand the pressure?
Common_Cents (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:17PM EST (link)They will be told, look, its pass this and hope for the fixes, or NOTHING.
Are they that solid in their resolve? Because now they will have political cover to vote for something much less than they wanted.
It’d be easy for them to go back to their constituents and say they had no choice and hopefully near future fixes will be made.
I’m just weary of trusting DEMS and trusting that REPS will continually do everything they can to thwart this thing, especially over time.
Obama=Golfer in Chief, Leading from,
behind, the Back Nine.Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.
Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.
The only pressure that counts...
writeblock Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:19PM EST (link)…is the pressure they’re feeling from angry constituents. The bill is dead. They’ll try to revive it–but if they can’t, Obama will settle for a smaller, non-comprehensive bill–which the House seems to be leaning towards anyway at this point. This is a last ditch effort.
They do need to feel the pressure
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:37AM EST (link)and this time, enough of them will listen and hear Scott Brown’s race scaring them.
I hope you're right...
MacAoidh (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:19PM EST (link)…but I expected that when Scott Brown won in Massachusetts that the enthusiasm for ObamaCare would curl up and die as it should have. I was wrong, because I misjudged the level of blind leftist ideology Obama, Reid and Pelosi are consumed with.
There is also this – while the ObamaCare debate is tiresome, disgusting and frightening, it’s also a Republican vote machine. And if the other side wants to immolate themselves as a major political party running an insane attempt to socialize the medical sector against the firm wishes of the American people, our job in achieving a leadership role in federal government becomes amazingly easy. So while a final victory is the ultimate goal, perhaps we shouldn’t fight for one quite so soon.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
Wrong.
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:34PM EST (link)I would give up the majority in the next 10 Congresses to stop this bill. It must be stopped now or it never will be.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
amen to that
ehud (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:31PM EST (link)Taking over the health care sector is a HUGE win for progressives. Obama and Nancy aren’t crazy; they are thinking long-term. If they pass this and lose congress for 10 years they still win big. Unless it gets repealed.
If only republicans could try to follow such long-term political strategy.
Ryan/? 2012
They are counting on Republicans not repealing
mavericktime Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:40PM EST (link)ObamaCare if they regain the Majority.
It must be
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:38AM EST (link)stopped.
The House vote on the Senate bill is the first battlefield to wipe it out on.
The problem with that thinking is that...
MacAoidh (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 7:12PM EST (link)…the Democrats have shown that when they control Congress and the White House, they will move for socialized medicine.
So in your calculus, you’d insure that we’re right back in this soup again and again for the next 20 years.
Give me a majority of Jim Demints and not only will there be no Obamacare, there will be no Cap and Trade, recission of the Bush Tax Cuts, porkulus bills and so on. Give me that majority and we may go on offense instead of having to beat Obama back at every turn.
I have no desire for this bill to pass. I would like to bleed the Democrats white and THEN defeat the bill. Simple victory isn’t enough; I want to annihilate the bastards.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
Handy congress contact list
redneck_hippie (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:23PM EST (link)from town hall via Michelle Malkin:
http://townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2010/02/26/stopping_obamacare_in_the_house?page=full&comments=true
Who is meeting with Obama tonight
jmimac351 Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:23PM EST (link)at the White House? Anyone know?
from twitter
karenmartin (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:00PM EST (link)The 10 House Dems coming tonight to WH: Altmire, Boyd, L Davis, Herseth-Sandlin, Kratovil, Markey, Matheson, Murphy, Shuler and Tanner.
http://twitter.com/karmartin
www.spartanburgteaparty.org
tanner, Davis- if you go in that room..
tngal (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:08PM EST (link)don’t bother coming back to TN anytime soon. You guys have been, mailed and phoned. What is your major malfunction?
Well said
earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:17PM EST (link)I am in Blackburn’s district. You see any point in me calling Tanner or Davis?
absolutely earlgrey
tngal (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:26PM EST (link)I”m in Lincoln Davis’ but I call all tennessee lawmakers to let them know I’m a resident and how important their vote is on a particular issue. email them or tweet. ( My toaster doesn’t have a tweet button so I don’t do that.)
Ps – you got the best legislator
Ps- I love your tea. Earl grey’s my fav.
Call them all
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:39AM EST (link)a lot.
Nancy's arm-twisting will be powerful.
KathW (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:29PM EST (link)I called Dina Titus’ NV office yest. She’s not my Rep but I know she has statewide ambitions. She is a freshman Congresswoman who hemmed and hawed before voting yes last time. She’s got to be feeling the heat now and I don’t think she particularly wants to give up her seat just yet. Maybe she’ll grow a backbone if enough of her constituents keep the pressure on.
Stupak: Nancy working on a separate abortion bill to appease hold outs?
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:30PM EST (link)If there is one Democrat that I have learned to trust in this whole debacle, it is Bart Stupak. Generally, what he says seems to be the real state of play on the ground. The Dem leadership just gives us drivel. His conviction on the life issue tends to drain the BS out of his statements.
Here he discusses the prospects of a separate “sidebar” bill to address the concerns of pro life Democrats in the House. He also does not think that abortion will, in the end, bring down the healthcare bill.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/84827-stupak-says-12-previous-health-bill-supporters-could-flip-over-abortion
The ride-along bill on abortion is a nice idea to appease the Stupak holdouts, but there is no way that a stand-alone bill on abortion will pass the Senate. On this, I disagree with Stupak; I’m not sure that Nancy and Harry can work around this issue.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
This might be the scariest thing I've read all day
stigmo Wednesday, March 3rd at 7:54PM EST (link)For weeks it was 15-20 pro-life Dems will stop ObamaCare from passing. Now, he’s working on a compromise….Sounds a lot like Nelson the third week of December.
Stupak is going to hear what is leadship has to say
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 7:01AM EST (link)but my reading of the sidecar comment is that (1) Pelosi raised the possibility and (2) Stupak is not going to be pawned by a “procedural snafu”
Stupak merely communicated what it would take, which is virtually impossible from a procedural point of view.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
Stupak a Buffoon, Just Like Nelson
Spartan4Life (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:23PM EST (link)I just saw him commenting on his position. He made it sound like he thought reconciliation was going to fix the language on abortion in the Senate bill before he and his coalition were going to be asked(forced) to vote for it. Sorry, Barty Boy, it doesn’t work that way. I think I know how this works better than he does. You have to vote for the bill as is.
You are going to walk the plank for your Boy President and Queen Pelosi by voting for abortion language written by Barbara @#%&ing Boxer. Take a moment and let that sink in.
Listen, these “pro-life” Democrats are a joke. How can you be part of a party that is radically pro-abortion and live with yourself every day? They are already compromised so, at the end of the day, they will roll over for their comrades just like Nelson did in the Senate. Their whole existence is one big rationalization so this will be just one more chance to show they don’t have the courage of their convictions.
As for Pelosi’s ploy of passing a seperate bill? It still has to go to the Senate where it will die, likely ironically by filibuster led by same Senator (Box)er.
You have to sell your soul
houstoneagle (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:26PM EST (link)to be a pro-life Democrat Member of Congress. So don’t be too surprised when Stupak and Company roll over in the end. Also see Harry Reid, rated 29% by NARAL.
“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
Without Stupak
earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:12PM EST (link)we are toast.
If Pelosi gets Stupak to vote for the bill
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:41AM EST (link)Stupak will destroy himself, just like Nelson did and I think he knows that, because there is no guarantee.
And the pro-abortion Dems would have to agree to Stupak again, in the final language and I just don’t see it.
It’s possible, but I don’t think it will happen.
Nelson foldes his tent in a few days, Stupak got Pelosi to sign on to the "Stupak language"
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 7:07AM EST (link)Comparing Stupak to Nelson is simply slander. Don’t know how this will end, but Stupak is a key reason why this wasn’t enacted into law far before Brown’s election.
Stupak has consistently opposed any bill without the Stupak language while being “generally optimistic” that the dems would utlimately sign on to a bill that met his requirements (i.e. he does not want to parade around saying I killed this thing).
I wouldn’t knock on Stupak unless he actually does turn tail—proactively assuming that he will is not particularly helpful. We want/need him to stick to his guns.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
So, You Think Stupak Coalition Will Defeat Existing Senate Bill?
Spartan4Life (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 11:03AM EST (link)Don’t count on it.
Reconciliation cannot proceed without first passing the existing Senate bill. The abortion language in that bill was written by Barbara Boxer. Stupak will be forced by Pelosi to vote for it while being given some “assurances” that the language will be fixed(it won’t happen). He’ll roll over because he has to.
He may not like it but I bet a dime to donuts he’ll cave.
If Stupak was going to cave, I think it would have happened already
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:37PM EST (link)He is not my Congressgritter, but I have followed him closely during this process, and I don’t think he can be pressured. He takes his autonomy and sense of honor pretty seriously.
He will not setll out, the question is really how many other in the 10-12 are real, and how many will follow.
You don’t think Pelosi fought hard to have the House bill include the Stupak amendment? They did included it because they didn’t have a choice.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
Stupak created the abortion discrepancy between the two bills
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:38PM EST (link)and was gumming up the works (along with the public option and cadillac tax) even before Brown was elected
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
When is the statute of limitations with this senate bill?
bannedtroll Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:04PM EST (link)When will this nightmare expire?
I’m a banned Democrat who came here to promote the idea that Republicans are racists for disliking Barack Obama.
Noon January 3rd (U.S. Constitution) nt
houstoneagle (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:23PM EST (link)“We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby.”–Erick Erickson, D-Day 2010
How to stop reconciliation?
neoavatara (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:06PM EST (link)Republicans do have ways to fight it…it may be a scorched earth policy, but that may be the only option.
http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=10154
www.neoavatara.com/blog
Are you kidding? The Republicans do not have
Bill Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:21PM EST (link)guts, gonads, gumption or whatever you call it to stand up and fight. A GOP senator who has chosen not to run again showed some backbone this week on a small but principled matter; did you see any other GOP senators standing there with him? The answer NO. Nobody wants to have the MSM to call them “Crazy or Out of Touch” even though he was RIGHT! Tell me, where is there leadership or guts in the GOP House or Senate? No one willilng to “fall on their swords to do what is obviously right”.
Thank God! November 3, 2010. U.S. House, GOP 290, DEM 145; U.S. Senate, GOP 70, DEM 28, IND 2. Keep on praying!
Jim DeMint stood up
karenmartin (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:38PM EST (link)http://twitter.com/karmartin
www.spartanburgteaparty.org
Cautiously optimistic, but...
phototiger Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:28PM EST (link)Dan, I hope you’re right. I’d love to see this monster of a bill die, but I’m worried about the backroom deals that this group of liberals will cut. Everyone with half a functioning synapse knows they’re liars as well and Obama and his thugs will twist every arm (or worse) to grab more power. It’s clear that many of the Dems aren’t listening to their constituents and I think that they fear Nancy, Obama, Rahm, etc. more than they fear the American voters who put them in office.
These are the Blue Dogs you should contact
renny (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:32PM EST (link)The following list is the tea party suggested Blue Dogs who need contacting to stand against Obamanationcare. John Adler of NJ already voted NO.
Rep. Michael Arcuri, New York 24th
http://arcuri.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3665, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-1891
Local Office Number: (315) 252-2777/2778, Local Fax Number: (315) 252-2779
Rep. John Boccieri, Ohio, 16th
http://boccieri.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3876, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-3059
Local Office Number: (330) 489-4414, Local Fax Number: (330) 489-4448
Rep. Allen Boyd, Florida, 2nd
http://boyd.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5235, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-5615
Local Office Number: (850) 561-3979, Local Fax Number: (850) 681-2902
Rep. Christopher Carney, Pennsylvania, 16th
http://carney.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3731, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-9594
Local Office Number: (570) 585-9988, Local Fax Number: (570) 585-9977
Rep. Gerald “Gerry” Connolly, Virginia, 11th
http://connolly.house.gov/index.html
DC Office Number: (202) 225-1492 DC Fax Number: (202) 225-3071
Local Office Number: (703) 256-3071, Local Fax Number: (703) 354-1284
Rep. Henry Cuellar, Texas 28th
http://cuellar.house.gov/
DC Office Number: 202-225-1640, DC Fax Number: 202-225-1641
Local Office Number: (210) 271-2851, Local Fax Number: (210) 277-6671
Rep. Steve Driehaus, Ohio, 1st
http://driehaus.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2216, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-3012
Local Office Number: (513) 684-2723, Local Fax Number: (513) 421-8722
Rep. Chet Edwards, Texas, 17th
http://edwards.house.gov/
DC Office Number: 202-225-6105, DC Fax Number: Fax: 202-225-0350
Local Office Number: (979) 691-8797, Local Fax Number: (979) 691-8939
Rep. Brad Ellsworth, Indiana, 8th
http://www.ellsworth.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4636, DC Office Fax: (202) 225-3284
Local Office Number: (812) 465-6484, Local Fax Number: (812) 422-4761
Rep. Bob Etheridge, North Carolina, 2nd
http://etheridge.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4531
Local Office Number: (919) 829-9122
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Arizona, 8th
http://giffords.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2542, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-0378
Local Office Number: (520) 881-3588, Local Fax Number: (520) 322-9490
Rep. Deborah “Debbie” Halvorson, Illinois, 11th
http://halvorson.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3635, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-3521
Local Office Number: (815) 726-4998, Local Fax Number: (815) 726-8024
Rep. Paul W. Hodes, New Hampshire, 2nd
http://hodes.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5206, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-2946
Local Office Phone: (603) 223-9814, Local Fax Number: (603) 223-9819
Rep. Jay Inslee, Washington, 1st
http://www.house.gov/inslee/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-6311, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-1606
Local Office Number: (360) 598-2342, Local Fax Number: (360) 598-3650
Rep. Paul Kanjorski, Pennsylvania, 11th
http://kanjorski.house.gov/
DC Office Number: 202-225-6511, DC Fax Number: 202-225-0764
Local Office Number: 570-825-2200, Local Fax Number: 570-825-8685
Rep. Marcy Kaptur, Ohio, 9th
http://www.kaptur.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4146, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-7711
Local Office Number: (419) 259-7500, Local Fax Number: (419) 255-9623
Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, Arizona, 1st
http://kirkpatrick.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2315, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-9739
Local Office Number: (928) 226-6914, Local Fax Number: (928) 226-2876
Rep. Ron Klein, Florida, 22nd
http://www.klein.house.gov/index.html
DC Office Number: (202) 225.3026, DC Fax Number: (202) 225.8398
Local Office Number: (561) 544-6910, Local Fax Number: (561) 544-2864
Rep. Suzanne Kosmas, Florida, 24th
http://www.kosmas.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2706, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6299
Local Office Number: (407) 208-1106, Local Fax Number: (407) 208-1108
Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio 10th
http://kucinich.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5871
Local Office Number: (216) 228-8850
Rep. Jim Langevin, Rhode Island, 2nd
http://langevin.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2735, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-5976
Local Office Number: (401) 732-9400, Local Fax Number: (401) 737-2982
Rep. Stephen Lynch, Massachusetts, 9th
http://www.house.gov/lynch/
DC Office Number: 202-225-8273, DC Fax Number: 202-225-3984
Local Office Number: 617-428-2000, Local Office Fax: 617-428-2011
Rep. Daniel B. Maffei, New York, 25th
http://maffei.house.gov/
DC Fax Number: (202) 225-3701, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-4042
Local Office Number: (315) 423-5657, Local Fax Number: (315) 423-5669
Rep. Ed Markey, Massachusetts, 7th
http://markey.house.gov/
DC Office Number: 202-225-2836
Local Office Number: 781-396-2900
Rep. Alan B. Mollohan, West Virginia, 1st
http://www.mollohan.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4172, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-7564
Local Office Number: (304) 292-3019, Local Fax Number: (304) 292-3027
Rep. John Murtha, Pennsylvania, 12th
http://www.murtha.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2065, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-5709
Local Office Number: (814) 535-2642, Local Fax Number: (814) 539-6229
Rep. Glenn C. Nye III, Virginia, 2nd
http://nye.house.gov/index.html
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4215, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-4218
Local Office Number: (757) 326-6201, Fax: (757) 326-6209
Rep. Tom Perriello, Virginia, 5th
http://perriello.house.gov/index.html
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4711, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-5681
Local Office Number: (434) 293-9631, Local Fax Number: (434) 293-9632
Rep. Gary Peters, Michigan, 9th
http://peters.house.gov/index.html
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5802, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-2356
Local Office Number: (248) 273-4227, Local Fax Number: (248) 273-4704
Rep. Nick Rahall, West Virginia, 3rd
http://www.rahall.house.gov/index.html
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3452
Local Office Number: (304) 325-6222
Rep. Laura Richardson, California, 37th
http://richardson.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-7924, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-7926
District Office Number: (202) 225-7924, District Fax Number: (202) 225-7926
Rep. Ciro Rodriguez, Texas 23rd
http://www.rodriguez.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4511, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-2237
Local Office Number: (830) 757-8398, Local Fax Number: (830) 752-1893
Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, Maryland, 2nd
http://dutch.house.gov/
DC Office Number: 202-225-3061, DC Fax Number: 202-225-3094
Local Office Number: 410-628-2701, Local Fax Number: 410-628-2708
Rep. Linda Sanchez, California, 39th
http://lindasanchez.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-6676
Local Office Number: (562) 860-5050
Rep. Kurt Schrader, Oregon, 5th
http://schrader.house.gov/index.html
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5711, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-5699
Local Office Number: (503) 588-9100, Local Fax Number: (503) 588-5517
Rep. David Scott, Georgia, 13th
http://davidscott.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2939, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-4628
Local Office Number: (770) 210-5073, Local Fax Number: (770) 210-5673
Rep. Adam Smith, Washington, 9th
http://adamsmith.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-8901
Local Office Number: (253) 593-6600, Local Fax Number: (253) 593-6776
Rep. Peter Visclosky, Indiana, 1st
http://www.house.gov/visclosky/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2461, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-2493
Local Office Number: (219) 795-1844, DC Fax Number: (219) 795-1850
Rep. David Wu, Oregon, 1st
http://www.house.gov/wu/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-0855, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-9497
Local Office Number: (503) 326-2901, Local Fax Number: (503) 326-5066
Rep. John Adler, New Jersey 3rd
http://adler.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4765, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-0778
Local Office Number: (732) 608-7235, Local Fax Number: (732) 608-7268
Rep. Jason Altmire, Pennsylvania 4th
http://www.altmire.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2565, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-2274
Local Office Number: (724) 378-0928, Local Fax Number: (724) 378-6171
Rep. Brian Baird, Washington 3rd
http://www.baird.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3536, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-2478
Local Office Number: (360) 695-6292, Local Fax Number: (360) 695-6197
Rep. John Barrow, Georgia 12th
http://www.barrow.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2823, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-3377
Local Office Number: (706) 722-4494, Local Fax Number: (706) 722-4496
Rep. Melissa Bean, Illinois 8th
http://www.house.gov/bean/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3711, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-7830
Local Office Number: (847) 517-2927, Local Fax Number: (847) 517-2931
Rep. Marion Berry, Arkansas 1st
http://www.house.gov/berry/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4076, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-5602
Local Office Number: (870) 972-4600, Local Fax Number: (870) 972-4605
Rep. Rick Boucher, Virginia 9th
http://www.boucher.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3861, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-0442
Local Office Number: (276) 628-1145
Rep. Dennis Cardoza, California 18th
http://www.house.gov/cardoza/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-6131, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-0819
Local Office Number: (209) 383-4455, Local Fax Number: (209) 726-1065
Rep. Travis Childers, Mississippi 1st
http://childers.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4306, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-3549
Local Office Number: (662) 841-8808, Local Fax Number: (662) 841-8845
Rep. Jim Costa, California 20th
http://www.house.gov/costa/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3341, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-9308
Local Office Number: (559) 495-1620, Local Fax Number: (559) 495-1027
Rep. Artur Davis, Alabama 7th
http://www.house.gov/arturdavis/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2665, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-9567
Local Office Number: (205) 752-5380, Local Fax Number: (205) 752-5899
Rep. Joe Donnelly, Indiana 2nd
http://donnelly.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3915, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-6798
Local Office Number: (574) 288-2780, Local Fax Number: (574) 288-2825
Rep. Parker Griffith, Alabama 5th
http://griffith.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4801, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-4392
Local Office Number: (256) 551-0190, Local Fax Number: (256) 551-0194
Rep. Baron Hill, Indiana 9th
http://baronhill.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5315, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6866
Local Office Number: (812) 288-3999, Local Fax Number: (812) 288-3873
Rep. Steve Kagen, Wisconsin 8th
http://kagen.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5655, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-5729
Local Office Number: (920) 437-1954, Local Fax Number: (920) 437-1978
Rep. Daniel Lipinski, Illinois 3rd
http://www.lipinski.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5701, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-1012
Local Office Number: (312) 886-0481, Local Fax Number: (773) 767-9395
Rep. Jim Marshall, Georgia 8th
http://jimmarshall.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-6531, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-3013
Local Office Number: (478) 464-0255, Local Fax Number: (478) 464-0277
Rep. Jim Matheson, Utah 2nd
http://www.house.gov/matheson/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3011, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-5638
Local Office Number: (801) 486-1236, Local Fax Number: (801) 486-1417
Rep. Michael E. McMahon, New York 13th
http://mcmahon.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3371, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-1272
Local Office Number: (718) 351-1062, Local Fax Number: (718) 980-0768
Rep. Michael Michaud, Maine 2nd
http://michaud.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-6306, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-2943
Local Office Number: (207) 942-6935, Local Fax Number: (207) 942-5907
Rep. Harry Mitchell, Arizona 5th
http://mitchell.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2190
Local Office Number: (480) 946-2411
Rep. Collin C. Peterson, Minnesota 7th
http://collinpeterson.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2165, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-1593
Local Office Number: (218) 847-5056
Rep. Mike Ross, Arkansas 4th
http://ross.house.gov/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-3772, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-1314
Local Office Number: (870) 881-0681, Local Fax Number: (870) 881-0683
Rep. Ike Skelton, Missouri 4th
http://www.house.gov/skelton/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-2876
Local Office Number: (816) 228-4242
Rep. Bart Stupak, Michigan 1st
http://www.house.gov/stupak/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-4735, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-4744
Local Office Number: (906) 786-4504, Local Fax Number: (906) 786-4534
Rep. Gene Taylor, Mississippi 4th
http://www.house.gov/genetaylor/
DC Office Number: (202) 225-5772, DC Fax Number: (202) 225-7074
Local Office Number: (228) 864-7670, Local Fax Number: (228) 864-3099
I would hold off on that call to Murtha - nt-
tngal (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:56PM EST (link)LMAO nt
Cheryl (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:14PM EST (link)“A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America, than the whole force of the common enemy.” –Samuel Adams
“The administrative state has inserted its big paws into our houses, from the toilet bowl to the light socket. Now if it would just stretch those paws from the one to the other at the same time, we might begin to recapture the spirit of ’76.” –Scott Johnson, Powerlineblog.com
Yep, and leave off Parker Griffith too
earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:21PM EST (link)He claims to be one of us now, switched from D to R.
Blue Dogs, moderates or whatever you call them!
Bill Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:25PM EST (link)They just love or fear the Pelosi Alpo or Purina Cow more than they respect the Oath they took to up hold the Constitution and listen to the majority of the people they are suppose to represent. They have no guts or gonads or gumption either! Don’t hold your breath.
Thank God! November 3, 2010. U.S. House, GOP 290, DEM 145; U.S. Senate, GOP 70, DEM 28, IND 2. Keep on praying!
Pete Visclosky?
Mayhem (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:34PM EST (link)Pete Visclosky is not a Blue Dog. He represents East Chicago and Gary, the most liberal district in Indiana outside of Indy. He’s basically just an offshoot of the Daley Machine in Cook County.
James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.
Blue Dogs?
mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:45PM EST (link)First of all, and thankfully so, John Murtha is dead.
Second, Giffords, Kuchinich, Mitchell, Davis, Sanchez, Richardson, Markey, Kirkpatrick and Kaptur – just for starters – are not anything even remotely resembling a “blue dog”. They are lickspittle slugs who will do as Nancy tells them.
Kucinich has said he will vote no
mavericktime Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:46PM EST (link)There are some true leftists in the House, not the Gucci liberals that dominate the Democratic Party, and Kucinich, Kaptur and others are part of that group. They will vote no because the Senate bill doesn’t contain the public option and because it taxes Cadillac health care plans.
He had voted NO before and I didn't expect him to
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 7:25AM EST (link)change his vote. Although he of all people should recognize a camel’s nose under the tent when he sees it.
My point was that this guy’s “tea party” information was about as far wrong as one can get if they really think this list is BDs.
Linda Sanchez is my Rep. regretably...
varia (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 2:59AM EST (link)She recently was ranked one of the most liberal Representatives right next to my favorite, Henry Waxman, in the National Journal. I’m sure you meant Loretta Sanchez.
Larry Andre for CA-39
Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”
it's all bs
seesalrun (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 8:52PM EST (link)unless we get it through to our friends family and neighbors, basically the American ethic of production=success we are doomed.
I tell my kids all day long – if someone tells you its free – they are trying to sell you something and get you into a contract.
I watch my words everywhere but….we are being had. Sunlight won’t even do it at this point.
If they ram this bs through, I will take it to another level. Civil, discreet but put more hours in. Thank you Red State.
I think you are right.
earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:13PM EST (link)I don’t see any way around this. Despite so many victories. Bribery and Chicago tactics will win out in the end, aided by the ignorance of so many well meaning people.
That's how they got us ...
merkinmuffley Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:48PM EST (link)… with MEDICARE! My grandparents are in their 80′s, and they are totally locked in. My grandfather has COPD and a history of complications related to diabetes. My grandmother has started to develop dementia. But because they are locked into Medicare, essentially a “contract” with the federal government FORCED upon them, they can’t go out and find better insurance.
But the worst part of it all, it’s MY taxes that are going to pay for all of this! No one asked me to pay for their socialized medicine, but what are you going to do?
I’m sure if the government didn’t have a forced monopoly on health care for seniors, my grandparents would be able to find competitive insurance that would give them the kind of care they deserve and could pay for.
Pitchforks and Fireworks in many locations simultaneously.
Bill Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:27PM EST (link)Anyone for a March 15th Picnic?
Thank God! November 3, 2010. U.S. House, GOP 290, DEM 145; U.S. Senate, GOP 70, DEM 28, IND 2. Keep on praying!
You mostly don't get it, folks
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 9:31PM EST (link)This is for all the marbles. You want to preserve your comfortable life while they enslave you ? We are getting there fast. At the end of the day, are you going to let the Marxist 20% of the population take over the country ? ‘Chicago politics will win in the end ?’ Shameful. It only wins if you let it !!!!! Have you no guts ? If this is the best we can do, may as well roll over now. The left are not so spineless. They believe in what they are doing. And they will take the necessary actions to achieve it.
Like I said, anyone for a March 15th picnic?
Bill Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:02PM EST (link)Get your pitchforks and fireworks and lets meet at the congressmen and congresswomen’s offices for a meal. Beware the Ides of March, Caesar!
Thank God! November 3, 2010. U.S. House, GOP 290, DEM 145; U.S. Senate, GOP 70, DEM 28, IND 2. Keep on praying!
You're a big talker
Neil Stevens (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:10PM EST (link)Funny how I don’t hear anything from you but hot air.
RS contributing editor, technical administrator, and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
well, what else can you hear, on here ?
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:26PM EST (link)What did you expect to hear ? Shots ?
A plan... nt
rbdwiggins (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:32PM EST (link)“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
We get it, and we have a plan in place...
rbdwiggins (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:16PM EST (link)Apparently, you were left out of the loop.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
glad to hear that you have a plan
Jonas Parker Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:50PM EST (link)care to share ? or is this a secret ?
It's called The Precinct Project, Jonas...
nessa (Diary) Wednesday, March 3rd at 11:22PM EST (link)…and it’s all here. The basics are at The Precinct Project.
This link is Cold Warrior’s Blog, he’s the most committed to increasing the number of conservatives actually running OUR party of anyone here. It will bring you up to date on the progress thus far.
Check them out. Marching is a part of things, as is blogging, but this is what will really get things done.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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The Big Difference
conservativepopulist (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 12:59AM EST (link)Yes!
This IS “for all the marbles”.
The big difference between the $856,000,000,000 “stimulus” and the so-called Health “Reform” bill is that the stimulus will eventually end – not that the resulting huge debt will anytime soon. But the Health bill will change things not only for the worse, but it is designed to last FOREVER. That is, unless we get a Republican congress and president, and then use the same reconciliation process Democrats propose to use to pass it, to reverse it.
It is interesting to note about 'all the marbles' here
OccamsRazor (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:39AM EST (link)that as reconciliation is being discussed by the dems, what it does medium and long term is elevate the playing field to bypass traditional rules. If ever such a stunt made the American people lose faith in our elected officials-I don’t know what would.
It’s amusing to ponder that the minority ideology in this country is so ready to use such a radical approach, because WHEN the majority of this country has the reigns again, not only will that tool be available but so will it’s tempered steel tip. The Dems better be damn sure of what they are asking for here.
I personally give it 70/30 odds that this bill is dead in favor.
With that typed, we must continue being creative and passionate about the fight to beat this arrogant narcissistic emo-style ideology believed by the left and encapsulated by BO.
Obama’s ‘executive’ plans were circular logic from the beginning. His legacy is set in stone as the worst President ever before his first year was done; being stubborn about bad policy underlined it; and what genuinely brings a smile to my face is that his designs to wreck this country and/or enslave it will ultimately fail due to what I observe here everyday-the innate and creative human condition to be Free.
Power Laundering
OccamsRazor (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 2:02AM EST (link)We must all hold accountable and put on notice the 10 who meet today, and ANY forth-ward the way Ben Nelson was held accountable by his Constituents. We must remember the bribes and what amounts to extortion of the Constitution, accountable, to scrutinize (even if it’s brother’s in sweetheart deal judgeship’s or ambassadorships). We must hold them accountable now, put them on notice NOW so that when we win this fight, they’ll know…that our public servants will not be able to bribe our very Freedoms away behind closed doors any longer.
Right
conservativepopulist (Diary) Friday, March 5th at 1:40PM EST (link)You couldn’t be more right.
Yes
conservativepopulist (Diary) Friday, March 5th at 1:49PM EST (link)Yes, we have become the “classical liberals” now: opposing the tyranny of a ever more oppressive government, and fervently advancing the restoration of our precious liberty.
The House will get thrown under the bus.
slammer Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:11PM EST (link)The Obama bus will run over the stupid house member if they pass the senate bill. If the house passes the senate bill then Obama will sign it without the need for reconciliation. Just read this on WAPO:
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Democrats were exploring ways to make the Senate bill’s passage conditional on passage of the reconciliation bill so that House members could be certain the Senate bill alone would never become law. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/03/AR2010030302213_pf.html
The house doesn’t trust Obama or Reid.
The House members cannot trust the Senate
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:50AM EST (link)to act, the Speaker cannot guarantee what will happen in the Senate.
Here is something no one seems to have thought through: Senator Byrd will vote to support the Byrd rule on reconciliation, which bans legislating on a reconciliation bill.
That means there are 41 GOP members, plus Sen. Byrd to vote against waiving the Byrd rule.
It is very difficult to get ObamaCare, in any form, done on reconciliation.
You need 60 votes to over-ride the Byrd rule
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:51AM EST (link)on reconciliation
Intrade Predicting Passage
mavericktime Wednesday, March 3rd at 10:11PM EST (link)They’re showing a 55% chance of passage. That’s the highest I’ve seen it.
Wow, that is a little
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:48AM EST (link)alarming.
I'm starting to panic
nancylee Wednesday, March 3rd at 11:40PM EST (link)Well, I’m actually panicking more. I’m 62 and I’ve never been so scared. Neither has my husband.
I feel like my country is on the edge of a knife blade and starting to slip.
Just try and focus on organizing your network
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:42AM EST (link)to defeat the Senate bill on the House floor with those you know in your state and around the country.
April 15th Tea Party rallies across the country
Freedoms Truth (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 12:11AM EST (link)WILL make a difference.
There is a debate on this thread over whether the Tea Party rallies helped. Yes, they did. Did you not notice that Obama’s agenda was supposed to be passed LAST YEAR? That it was derailed. How? Why? folks have called and pestered and talked to Congress-critters. popular opposition slowed and ultimately derailed the agenda. And who actively voiced opposition? They are the same folks who attended the rallies.
NOW IS THE TWO MINUTE WARNING. We almost lost the game, but were able to steal possession and score the Scott Brown victory.
Now the Obama team is down but has possession. They are trying a ‘hail mary’ last minute play. If it fails – GAME OVER.
OUR JOB IS TO MAKE IT FAIL:
1. ATTEND an April 15th rally.
2. CALL all the members of Congress and Senate in your state, whichever party, etc. register your STRONG OPPOSITION TO OBAMACARE. KEEP THE PRESSURE UP.
3. Write letters to the editor, make blog comments (not here but in media outlet sites), share opposition on facebook and via email, let everyone kow how BAD the bill is and how UNITED we need to be to oppose it.
Freedoms Truth,
Travis Monitor – http://travismonitor.blogspot.com
Austin, TX
The tea parties provided the first train wreck
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:43AM EST (link)for Obama, in August and forced the bill to be delayed until Christmas in the Senate.
Without the tea party, this bill would have passed in the fall of 2009.
Tea Parties on April 15 will be offset by Coffee Parties on May 1.
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 7:51AM EST (link)So what if five or ten million people show up on April 15. Other than people who read conservative blogs, nobody will know about it. OTOH, on May 1 when dozens of Coffee Parties are held, hosting 10 to 15 people each, the NYT, WaPo and the networks will devote a full day of coverage to the brave folks who are taking back America from the racists.
I agree, nothing seems to work
gracie (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 12:55AM EST (link)I’ve called until the phones are jammed. I have e-mailed all over the country. I have snail-mailed the Blue Dogs and passed their info to friends. They could care less. I keep telling them that their vote affects me and mine as much as anyone in their district!
The most worrisome part is that it appears that once it passes we will not be able to repeal it even when we get control back because we will lack the 2/3 it takes to override O’s veto? So we will be stuck with it?
Therefore changing Congress holds no real hope? And after two years on the books it will be near impossible to get rid of? Dan, all of us appreciate you. and we love when you come back through and make your comments. I hope you will tell me I’m nuts. Even Neil can call me a nutjob. Somebody.
There is a way
Menlo (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:21AM EST (link)Refuse the mandate. We need to start a campaign in which all opponents unite in refusing to buy or even accept anything called “health insurance” and refuse to pay a fine.
If enough people and businesses did so, the program would be unsustainable. Perhaps if it were a big enough campaign, it could send a message.
“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter
Showing up in person and demonstrating
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 1:47AM EST (link)really does work.
It is very important work and must be done. It is more important than the phones and the emails.
But your sense of things should take into account the great distance Obama has fallen and public support has fallen.
I simply do not believe that there are that many Dems who are going to vote again to pass it.
They have much more to gain if it fails.
And the progressives, those who support the public option or single payer have yet to really weigh in.
We will see if their principles can be bought off.
Dan, don't you think April 15 is too late?
mavericktime Thursday, March 4th at 9:52AM EST (link)I think demonstrations should start now and continue until this bill is defeated. I plan to contact my local tea party people to see if something can be planned in my area.
But people near Washington should get out on the streets this weekend, I would think!
If you can't take back a party, what hope do you have to take back a country?
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 8:38AM EST (link)Third party talk is silly if the goal is to actually get control of government and implement the desired policies.
Starting a third party now is like spending time cleaning your cabin on the Titanic—the boat is sinking, and the big picture needs to be the top and only priority.
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
Paging Dan Perrin
GJ Merits (Diary) Thursday, March 4th at 12:08PM EST (link)Ok Dan, this is one I have heard before and it is now coming from Hot Air:
The real nightmare scenario isn’t that the House might pass the Senate bill now, or in April. It’s that Democrats might get stymied now, and then pass the Senate bill after the midterms in late November, and allow Obama to sign it into law well after the time when voters have held them accountable for their radical agenda.
A special session called after the Congress recesses sine die. Assuming they can do this (which from what I have seen they make up their own rules as they go along), I have an insider friend who says this will never happen as, in his opinion (and he is a reserved fellow), there would be an insurrection in this country and the fuse will hit the powder keg – literally, not figuratively.
What way you?
I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents….James Madison
If you want to go fast – go alone. If you want to go far – go together.
To win against tyranny you must embrace not only novel solutions, but fear of the unknown as well.
If Passed, Eminently Contestable- in the Senate, SCOTUS, What Have You...
reaganiterepublicanresistance Thursday, March 4th at 12:11PM EST (link)Reconcilliation is truly a desperate gamble by a desperate man…
Linked at Reaganite Republican-
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/03/passing-obamacare-chicago-way-will-not.htm
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