Comments on: “ObamaCare Cannot be Passed through Reconciliation”

By: Adjoran

Adjoran — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:04:32 +0000

How do they ever think this will work?

Suppose they do pass the bill by bending the rules (Biden overrules the Senate Parliamentarian, allowing the policy changes), it is going to be seen as forcing it down the public’s throats, and hurt Democrats even more in November.

Besides that, this isn’t some entitlement which engenders an instant constituency to lobby against repeal. They aren’t giving ANY benefits the first five years – only collecting taxes. Between court challenges and elections, it will never be put into place.

By: livingfortruth

livingfortruth — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:03:05 +0000

garbage still on the table? The constitution CLEARLY states that those things NOT ENUMERATED for congress to do is left for the states. It can’t even use the Interstate Commerce clause as the Democrats will not allow for interstate medical insurance commerce.
And the tax on every citizen who choses NOT to become a nave of the Federal Government takes away LIBERTY.

http://livingfortruth.wordpress.com/

By: JSobieski

JSobieski — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:13:28 +0000

The poison part is that many in the House have said they won’t vote for a plan that doesn’t include the public option—which of course is BS

Stupak’s pro-lifers are the only Dems who have backed up any “I won’t for it” statements with actual behavior

By: traversecityconservative

traversecityconservative — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:04:57 +0000

is that you’re assuming the Dems will follow the usual rules. They won’t. There is no one to stop them.

By: snowshooze

snowshooze — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:43:16 +0000

Keep up the heat. I wrote my sellout DEM Senator Begich of Alaska and told him no to all.
No compromise..no way, no time, no how…no.
Everybody, keep yelling.
They say ” Eat $hxx or go blind”
I will rather go blind. Every time.
I will also go after my Republican Congress critters and tell them not to give an inch. This battle is for all the chips, if they pull this off, we are totally screwed.

By: jeffreywturner

jeffreywturner — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:27:32 +0000

They are talking up the idea of reconciliation in hopes that 1 or 2 Republicans will take the bait and agree to a bill with a couple of window-dressing concessions.

Then that Republican would use the old “I had to negotiate with them, at least it prevented them from passing something even worse under reconciliation” line.

This is kinda similar to the “I might as well enlist, because it will be worse if I get drafted” argument.

By: Return to Revolution

Return to Revolution — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:51:22 +0000

Isn’t one of the functions of the Senate supposed to be to cool off, slown down, and /or water down potentially hot-headed bills coming from the House? Yet the Senate is the more radical body (per abortion & public option).

Also amazing is that the dems could mitigate their 2010 losses if they played everything right. But they are doing the exact opposite. 50? 60? 80? If 80 seats becomes a possibility it will symmetrically flip the House (i.e., give Rs the same majority Ds now have).

By: Dan Perrin

Dan Perrin — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:00:43 +0000

after this

By: Dan Perrin

Dan Perrin — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:59:57 +0000

political pain, equivalent to the torment they keep inflicting on the American public with their pedantic behavior.

By: reaganiterepublicanresistance

reaganiterepublicanresistance — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:59:05 +0000

I always thought that reconcilliation was an empty threat utilized to create a sense of inevitability… perhaps sucking a couple RINOs into the net, then they could actually pass it.

This crew is indeed desperate… this is the end of Obama’s agenda

By: Dan Perrin

Dan Perrin — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:58:33 +0000

n/t

By: Dan Perrin

Dan Perrin — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:57:42 +0000

inflicted on these lambs being lead to the slaughter by Reid and the irrational Speaker and the desperate President.

By: Dan Perrin

Dan Perrin — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:56:32 +0000

lethal in the House.

The key is to drag it out and tar every Dem up this cycle with ObamaCare.

You know, give them another coat.

They will simply end up revolting and telling their leadership to STOP THE PAIN.

By: reaganiterepublicanresistance

reaganiterepublicanresistance — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:54:56 +0000

I’d rather go to a witch doctor in Haiti, LOL

What a nightmare…

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/

By: Dan Perrin

Dan Perrin — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:54:45 +0000

he does not quit.

I wonder how many Dems realized he meant, I expect you to follow me in the charge of the light brigade?

By: jaykali

jaykali — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:50:18 +0000

The media propagates this idea like they propagate the price of the bill being $800-900 billion when its really a couple trillion. I don’t think you can just bypass rules like you’re Iran or something. I fear our democracy if they can completely ignore their own rules. I think this will give us all an ice cream headache for a while longer but it’s not going to happen.

Look at it from the positive side, they are taking all the flak for these awful bills and yet they will come away with nothing. I don’t think Obama will change course until they lose big in November, at that point they’ll have to have some sort of course correction.

By: graciegirl

graciegirl — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:49:53 +0000

I too have never been so scared of my own government. I am scared to even write the White House. I don’t want to fill out the Census past the required information and I am scared not to. Remember he wanted people to turn in their neighbors re: the Internet. Now he wants to listen in to our cell phones.

We should not have to be scared of our government in America.

I want Dan to be right about this! I think their idea is to pass SOMETHING and then they will fix it later. I think that is what they are telling each other. What’s stopping them from doing that?

By: Dan Perrin

Dan Perrin — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:49:43 +0000

facts.

By: Dan Perrin

Dan Perrin — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:48:42 +0000

They are titling the movie Captain Ahab Hunts the Greate White Healthcare Whale.

By: Finrod

Finrod — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:45:15 +0000

This monkey story involved putting food inside a coconut; the monkey would grab the food inside the coconut but couldn’t get its hand out of the coconut, and with it trapped on its paw it couldn’t climb a tree to get away, which made it easy pickings to become food for the natives.