… do the thought experiment: What if the roles were reversed and it was a once-in-a-generation chance to (again just a hypothetical) overturn roe v. wade, but it meant losing congress?

Not a hard question.

I think heathcare is like that for the true believer.

care as the one in the Obamanationcare bill. Whadda strange idea.

Update on H.Res 615: Call on Members of Congress to Enroll in the Public Option:

H. Res. 615 requires members of Congress enroll in the public option in the health care leg. if it passes.

Congress is pressing forward to enact an intrusive government administered health care plan, despite the higher costs and lowered level of care other countries with similar systems have experienced.

But, more than 100 Members of Congress have joined in support of H. Res. 615 calling on Members who vote for an intrusive government-administered health care plan to enroll in that system.

Since launching this effort, nearly 3 million Americans have contacted Cong. office in support of H. Res. 615. An amendment to the Democratic Leadership health care bill to automatically enrolls all Members of Congress and all Senators in the public option. Predictably, this amendment was rejected out of hand by the Majority and was not given a vote on the floor of the House of Representatives.

Common sense seems to have failed in the health care debate. That is why John Fleming has offered a resolution asking Members of Congress to put their “money where their mouth is” and call for Members who support a public option lead by example and be required to enroll in the public option themselves. If a Member is willing to vote for such an option, why shouldn’t he/she enroll in it?

JOHN FLEMING, M.D, Louisiana Congressman

I’m still chuckling over a foul and fetid creature like Saddam Hussein’s best friend Jim McDermott likening himself and his fellow leftie cretins to Winston Churchill.

Nancy Pelosi and her cohorts are considering piecemeal Obamacare by breaking apart Obamacare and passing them as individual bills. First bill is the “repeal” of the antitrust, only 2 pages long.

This will eventually lead to public option.

Do they really think that they could win back the votes that they lost?

Americans’ short memory is not that short.

Regarding mandatory health insurance, the House’s “public option”, the outlawing of private insurers writing new policies. The senate’s taxes, and the cuts in medicare to attempt to make the bill “deficit neutral”. Or are they like Pavlov’s dog that hears “health care reform” and they slobber like a bunch of idiots.

the bill did not include rationing, death panels, and it could pay for itself, but of course it has all of the worse ideas in it that can be imagined and has none of the ideas that really have a chance to succeed like buying policies across state lines and tort reform.

If the Dems had only reached for half of what they want and been inclusive of at lease some Republican ideas they could have easily peeled off a few Republicans and got their big government health care, but they got too greedy and now they are screwed.

Thank the Lord.

“that’s before the law goes into effect and people figure out that there are no death-panels, rationing schemes, or cuts in Medicare benefits”

Does NYT deny that there is a stated “rationing scheme” or that the nature of the system itself will result in rationing?

Either way its delusional or deceptive beyond what I could previously imagine in this country.

Keep pushing your ridiculous health insurance “reform” and you’ll all fall in November the way those domino structures do.

Obama is always referring to the rest of the world as being on the cutting edge of great progress. Really? Europe has high unemployment. Spain for instance has been investing in green industry for years. Late last year their unemployment rate was 18%. WHO says we are behind the world in health care. Really? Canadians regularly come into the US because they cannot receive the healthcare they need. We have the best healthcare in the world. The GOP needs to expose these lies. Make Obama defend the failing economies and healthcare systems around the world. Do not allow him to state false conclusions as fact.

you called it Dan…

And I pray they do try to keep breathing life into this corpse…and I wouldn’t be surprised if they do keep trying.

I read a really good article yesterday on why liberals are so arrogant…and one of the theories are the just don’t believe people who don’t think like them really exist…they are true believers who really believe what they are doing makes sense and noone in thier right mind could possibly really believe HCR is a bad idea…or that it’s a bad idea to give a federal bureaucrat the power to decide the kind of care you will be allowed to receive…the kind of medicines a doctor can administer…or whether your life is valuable enough to justify the resources spent to keep you alive.

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson