Drunk with delusion, will the Jonestown Kool-Aid Brigade go for it on ObamaCare? We’ll find out at the end of the week — but we have been hearing that for weeks. No decision, is in fact, a decision.
The endless attempt to revive the dead, by practitioners who believe that one more adrenaline shot, one more “CLEAR!” with the paddles will re-awake ObamaCare to rise and lead the Dems to the zen-like calm of YES WE CAN and HOPE and happy-days-once-again were at one time heroic, and now are unseemly and a little nutty.
But even those with a God-complex can’t raise the dead, or is a zen-like calm really just dead?
Meanwhile in the real-world, the White House pivoted from health care to financial reform and today the New York Times reports this morning that Senator Dodd said — (and the ironies about health care will hit you over the head):
the administration was “getting precariously close” to excessive ambition for the legislation. “I don’t want to be in a position where we end up doing nothing because we tried to do too much,” he said.
Senator Dodd is the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee and the Chairman of the HELP Committee that passed ObamaCare in the heady days of euphoria and Dem-cram-down-break-dancing.
Now, not so much. Seems there was another Luntz memo and, apparently, an ad. Oh. That.
Some Dems are laughing (literally) about ObamaCare’s fate. Here is what the Associated Press just reported:
“The legislation remains stuck in limbo, and there were fresh signs Wednesday of greater skepticism among some rank-and-file Democrats.
California Reps. Dennis Cardoza and Jim Costa, both moderates who voted for the House-passed health bill, burst out laughing when asked about the issue’s fate.”
My fervent hope is that the delusionals (David Axelrod and the Speaker and the Trillion Dollar President) win the fight that is raging between the Dems in the White House, the Senate and the House about “going for it” on reconciliation.
Senator DeMint has made it clear — and Senator Hatch too — the gloves come off this time in the Senate. It will be a movable feast (to use Dodd’s phrase from the NYT story above) of non-germane amendments and every tough health care vote that is conceivable.
Walking the plank for the Dems will become daily, Senate-seat killing fare.
This time, the tough and creative and merciless will be running the repeated flank-attack-by-amendment and Senate floor ambushes. The most effective weapons will not be declared off-limits. Now, weapons are hot and the GOP Delta forces are praying the Dems walk again through their pre-set mortar firing solutions and, under fire, fall back to the only place where there is any cover, only to find M-18 claymores waiting. (As in, yeah, we thought that’s where you’d run to.)
The Dems will be treated to months of pain and suffering, as they try to burrow down deep for safety, they will slowly lose their cool and will find themselves in an even worse political posture by GOP arc-light strikes.
It will remind the public that the Dems are not listening and really don’t care what the public thinks, while they cheer the Republicans on. The stunning NPR finding of a plus five generic ballot advantage for Republicans — plus ten for those most likely to vote — will spike upwards.
And while health care takes its agonizing place on the front page again — the neural pathways of emotion and intellect formed in the minds of Independent voters when they hear the word ObamaCare, will be re-ignited and re-established with an angry vengeance.
Again, living in their own world, the Dems really think that when the GOP base and the independent voters who HATE ObamaCare so much, hear charges of “the Party of NO” and “obstructionism,” that these charges will help their cause? Strange. The GOP will be doing, with vigor, what the public wants — stopping ObamaCare.
And with the Massachusetts wind at their back, they intend to trim the sails and hike out.
So, please Dems, come walk down the primrose path with the two Jonathans at the New Republic — adamant that the Dems must pass health care via reconciliation.
So are the leaders at Families USA — the same crowd that led the Dems into the August thru January ObamaCare killing zone. They all cry for the Dems to go over the top of the trench and face dug in GOP machine guns and artillery fire once more. (They are party cheerleaders that politically destroy those they are cheering.)
So while the Premier of Newfoundland leaves Canada to get the best care ever, here, the Speaker — in order to have any shot at all at getting to 218 — is insisting that her House members not walk the plank first.
She insists the Senate fix their own bill that is not yet law in a process (reconciliation) designed to make changes to laws — not unpassed bills. This is obviously the source of much snickering on the Senate side. Us? Go first? No, please Nancy, you first over the top of the trench.
If recent history is any guide, she will. And we will be waiting, war-paint on, patiently.
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Can't and won't go out with a bang
In The Hook (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 10:47AM EST (link)Dan,
It took months after HillaryCare was dead and rotting until the Dem leadership finally admitted that it had no pulse. And even then the bill was just “shelved” until the next legislative session. There’s no conceivable way that Pelosi, Red, Obama or even lesser leaders like Hoyer can come out and say “health care reform is dead” or even “we’ve moved on for now.” They just can’t.
And honestly, I don’t blame them. When our side gunned for Social Security reform and came up short, we conceded that we failed and that is a massive political error even if it’s honest. The deathmarch of trying to actually pass this thing could only be supplanted by coming out and saying, “Hey, so remember that health care legislation we spent a whole year on, said was absolutely essential to economic recovery and argued was our number one priority that couldn’t fail? Yeah, it’s over.” That wouldn’t be a death march, that would be an instant and summary execution for their side. The liberal base would start up the circular firing squad once again and would be totally depressed in terms of GOTV. Independents would see that Democrats are completely incapable of governance and flee into our arms even more than they are right now.
No, the only smart course is to say nothing about health care and when prodded say “we’re looking for a way forward and discussing some ideas.” That’s what they’ve been doing since Brown’s election and I think they’ll continue to do that. Yes, Pelosi is making some racket about getting rid of the antitrust exemption, but it’s little more than just noise. I think there is a bit of somewhat serious discussion about the two track plan with reconciliation, but the real calculus is how long it would take. Since reconciliation would have to start in committee again, it could take until past Easter to get close to a final vote once again. With primary season already in full swing by then, I don’t know how many House Dems would want to risk that.
Of course, the biggest problem is the more they try to think this thing through, the more time ticks away and the longer that timetable becomes. So the only rational solution for the Dem side is to hope health care fades away and that they can score some “victories” on legislation like financial regulatory reform and job creation. They’ll probably re-assess their standing in the spring and see if their prospects have improved. If they have, then maybe Obamacare gets new life in late spring and early summer. If not, which I can almost guarantee is the case, then it will just have faded into dust.
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I think it would be smart for them to admit
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 11:46AM EST (link)they failed and are trying a new approach.
The “were are still trying” thing just opens them up to repeated attacks on the same battlefield they have lost on repeatedly.
A de novo approach has the benefit of tee-ing up the next phase, in the next Congress.
Therein lays the problem
dwander Thursday, February 4th at 12:26PM EST (link)You are expecting them (Pelosi) to be tactically or maybe even strategically smart about the issue.
The problem with fanaticism is that logic doesn’t always play a part. I believe that they so desperately want to change our way of life that they fail to see the damage or repercussions their actions and ideas have on our nation.
That is one of the reason they are such a scary bunch.
I guess I keep expecting
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 5:57PM EST (link)someone to prevail on the lunatics
I agree but
thurman Thursday, February 4th at 12:13PM EST (link)Your presumption is that they are all sane, rational politicians. They are not
I think the majority of Dems now realize this, and are “fake cheerleading” as you pointed out, and hoping just to sweep it under the rug and let it die by attrition
But I think the zealots and crazies like Pelosi and Obama’s inner circle are still full steam ahead to get something, anything for him to sign so he can say “I passed HCR”
They didn’t listen to the town halls, they couldn’t are less about the election losses.
I think they are that fanatical that they honestly feel a moral duty to pass something at any cost and really believe what they’re saying
Hopefully, the majority of their party are the sleazy careerist politicians we know they are, and won’t walk the plank one final devastating time.
If their prospects improve this spring...
writeblock Thursday, February 4th at 5:29PM EST (link)…that would indicate getting off healthcare was the right thing for them to do. It would seem the last thing they’d want to do is resume discussions on health care.
I was riding my bicycle on Hiway 89 today and came across a dead skunk
bobojake (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 11:09AM EST (link)I used all the obama voodoo on that ROADKILL dead skunk and the skunk refused to move. I left a note on on it obamascare.
LOL
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 11:37AM EST (link)NICELY said.
Hey Dan,
erod (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 1:03PM EST (link)do you think Sen. Jim DeMint might have a good shot at becoming majority leader in the Senate if the Repubs take it back? He’s been awesome on fighting ObamaCare and has shown some really good leadership IMO.
I have been wondering the same thing...
gracie (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 3:02PM EST (link)how can we encourage McConnell to do the gentlemanly thing and resign? DeMint has earned this but not sure he would fight over it.
Uh, doubt it
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 5:58PM EST (link)n/t
Hey Dan,
erod (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 1:03PM EST (link)do you think Sen. Jim DeMint might have a good shot at becoming majority leader in the Senate if the Repubs take it back? He’s been awesome on fighting ObamaCare and has shown some really good leadership IMO.
Truly, health care deform is the gift that keeps on giving
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 1:56PM EST (link)This is better even than I originally thought.
I remember back in July-August, when I was certain, somewhat impractically, that it would not pass because a nascent (at the time) popular uprising would make it fail.
I hit on some things, missed on others, but overall I get a win for this (yes, this comment is about me, thank you):
Incorrectly, I thought it would pass the Senate (bunch of thieving high-binders with no accountability) but not pass in the House (where they would feel the very real pressure of the popular uprising.
As it turns out, it passed both. I was rescued because the arrogance of the Senate was such that they passed a different bill, while the clock ran out on reconciliation (thank you MA voters!). So in the rerack, the House Dems have lost the stomach to even pass the Senate-passed bill. And no possible bill exists that would pass the House and Senate both.
And meanwhile, 6 months have gone by, and the die is set on their political doom. And STILL, they forge onward! Right over the cliff.
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I like it
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 6:00PM EST (link)I really do hope they try it in the Senate.
Will Today's Crash on Wall Street Kill BIG BRObama's Hell-th Care Plan?
Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 4:35PM EST (link)Socialist countries in Europe – Spain, Portugal, and Greece – are near bankruptcy after trying to “tax and borrow and spend their way” out of the recession.
This made Wall Street very nervous today:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-tumble-on-worries-apf-838755238.html?x=0
More empirical evidence that such a technique will not work!
So will Hell-th Care die away now? No, but we can always hope that things will change!
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
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Yeah, it is having a drag effect on the $2.5 Trillion
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 6:01PM EST (link)the Trillion dollar president wants to spend.
Meaning,
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 6:02PM EST (link)there is a whole lot of nervousness about our overall fiscal situation among the elite in both parties, just not in the Speaker’s office or the White House or the Majority Leader’s office.
for example, this really freaks Member of Congress out
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 6:03PM EST (link)http://finance.yahoo.com/focus-retirement/article/108747/next-in-line-for-a-bailout-social-security?mod=fidelity-readytoretire
Will Today's Crash on Wall Street Kill BIG BRObama's Hell-th Care Plan?
Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 4:35PM EST (link)Socialist countries in Europe – Spain, Portugal, and Greece – are near bankruptcy after trying to “tax and borrow and spend their way” out of the recession.
This made Wall Street very nervous today:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-tumble-on-worries-apf-838755238.html?x=0
More empirical evidence that such a technique will not work!
So will Hell-th Care die away now? No, but we can always hope that things will change!
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
Cato@rock.com
Greece’s Biggest Union Sets Strike, Threatens Cuts
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 5:04PM EST (link)Greece’s Biggest Union Sets Strike, Threatens Cuts
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-04/greece-s-biggest-union-sets-strike-threatens-cuts-update1-.html
Well, well, well – Europeans never learn. Socialism does not work.
A worldwide depression is on the way and now America has a president that believes in the same policies that have gotten Europe in trouble. Obama is the wrong man at the wrong time and the fate of free market capitalism is in the balance.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
We will be saving our nation from this fate
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 6:03PM EST (link)in November
Let Us Hope The Collapse Does Not Occur Before BIG BRObama's Stupidities Can Be Undone
Ausonius (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 6:22PM EST (link)There are limits as to when and as to how much can be fixed, after a societal meltdown.
I addressed this near the end of my essay on the energetic people in the middle 400′s A.D. who tried to keep the Roman Empire from collapsing further, and attempted – and came close – to undoing the damage from both barbarians and internal morons.
They failed.
See:
http://www.redstate.com/ausonius/2010/01/24/leftist-barbarians-and-the-decline-and-fall-of-america/
Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.
Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.
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Now is the time to take the PR advantage
in_awe Thursday, February 4th at 5:09PM EST (link)The Republicans must now loudly and insistently propose two or three small but important health care insurance reforms such as:
- opening up competition across state lines,
- allowing more “cafeteria style” selection of needed coverages rather than being forced to take everything a state legislature dreamed up as being necessary, and
- tort reform
Virtually every voter would get behind these proposals. Remind everyone daily they were part and parcel of the step-by-step approach suggested by the Republicans throughout 2009 but were shut out of all the negotiations to draft the bill.
Here is how to make the public sit up & take notice
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 5:19PM EST (link)Tort reform – the Republicans need to hit on that issue first – long & hard. Don’t confuse the issue like the Democrats did. Call up C-SPAN and start having a debate on tort reform when it comes to health insurance. Let’s see how many democrats attend…..
Leave Obama out of it. As a matter of fact – shut him out like he shut out the Republicans.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
I think everyone is sick of health care, the Members of Congress
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 6:05PM EST (link)the staff, the voters, the media.
But it will be back, next Congress, when a rational approach can be taken.
I am sick of it -
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, February 4th at 6:36PM EST (link)and I am sure every healthcare worker would like Obama, Pelosi & Reid to go away.
It is like one of those projects you get involved in at work where you know it is doomed to failure but the boss keeps pressing on.
If Obama was a TV show he would have been canceled by now.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
He just admitted Congress may cancel it
Dan Perrin (Diary) Saturday, February 6th at 5:51AM EST (link)http://www.usatoday.com/money/topstories/2010-02-05-1297552452_x.htm