Neither Reid nor Pelosi have the Votes to do Anything Else on ObamaCare


Speaker Pelosi’s zero point zero House vote margin has eroded further during the week after the Red Tide flooded Central and Eastern Massachusetts.

Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D – OH) said: “The senate bill is so totally flawed that I don’t think it can get the votes in the House to pass. I certainly wouldn’t vote for it.” Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) said he will not vote for the Senate bill. Rep. Stupak says he has 10 to 12 yes votes who would be no votes, if Senator Nelson’s abortion funding language he got in return for the Nebraska Medicaid Kickback is in the bill. And the National Organization of Women publicly stated that they think no health care bill is better than either the House or the Senate bill.

The likelihood of Democrats who voted NO changing their votes to yes, after Massachusetts, is zero.

And as The Huffingon Post reported yesterday:

“If you look at the actual vote in the House, we had 220 [votes for health care]. And you look at the Republican vote [Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana]. He’s no longer on board. And [former] Rep. Robert Wexler (D-Florida) is gone. So we are now at 218. We have no margin for error…”

It has all, very publicly, very embarrassingly turned to dust. The Speaker cannot get 218 votes. Full stop.

Now, a group of two dozen or so Dems Representatives are pushing the Speaker to break the health care bills up into smaller pieces and pass three smaller bills.

In the Senate, the effort to circulate a letter with 51 signatures from Senators pledging to vote for a reconciliation bill failed — they could not get the signatures. Essentially, the Dem Senators said, if we wanted to pass a bill that was different than the one we did pass, we would have — which is to say: Why would the Senate pass another bill to change their bill, just to accept the things they already rejected that the House says they need? The Senate Dems just told the House, we passed the bill we wanted to pass. That’s it.

Got that? Good.

Bloomberg News had a great couple of paragraphs that perfectly describe the reality meets dreams moment for Senator Harkin (D-IA):

“No one knows what to do,” Harkin said in a Jan. 22 interview. Lawmakers need a “breather” that would “let everyone calm down, get that panic out of their bodies” after Republican Scott Brown’s victory in the race to fill the seat held for almost half a century by the late Ted Kennedy.

Senator Tom Harkin, an Iowa Democrat who heads the chamber’s health committee, said Democrats would let the legislation “sit for a while” and then take it up “in a week or so.” Christopher Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat who helped shepherd the bill through the Senate, said the break might last as long as six weeks.

The Democratic effort to pass health care reform could not get any more pathetic. The pass-reform-at-any-cost crowd (David Axelrod, the Speaker and the President) have been reduced to spinning highly unlikely and fundamentally politically unsound triple bank-shots to try and even make another attempt at health care reform — when they know they do not have the votes. An eager media laps it up with no sense of reality or understanding of what health care politics really is to the Democrats: plutonium.

One Dem Representative who gets it warned the White House a year ago not to take them over the same cliff they went over in 1994. The Blue Dogs were told by the President, “Well, the difference with 1994 and now is that you have me.”

Looking back, the White House and the Speaker took a winning health care hand and squandered it by their moral crusade. Crusaders ignore reality, which the Dem leaders did every day of the health care fight.

They ignored the political cross-pressures until they grew and killed their bill. And the lethality (efficacy for health care wonks) of the health care fallout is directly related to the intensity that the President and Speaker pushed back for months and months against rational calls to stop, slow down, back off or change. The public pressure built, and built and built — while the Speaker and the President blithely ignored everyone and every event telling them to stop, even if it was a Democrat telling them or acknowledged expert like Charlie Cook.

So, the Great Health Care Crusade of 2010 ends with the Crusader’s army defeated in detail. Dazed and whining, they are crying the equivalent of Rome’s great cry “GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!”

Where are the Dems’ Legions? Squandered by self-deception. Rome, when it lost its legions, were deceived by the Germans. The Dem leadership, however, deceived themselves, blinded by their arrogance and attitude of moral superiority.

Now Senator Reid will not return to the Senate and the President is mortally weakened. But the Speaker is still pushing the Crusade — telling the world: we must pass a health bill.

The Speaker is dangerous to the health and welfare of her party, and should step aside by taking responsibility for the firestorm that is consuming her party and consuming the members of her caucus.

Will any Dem will pay for the incompetence of the health care debacle of 2010, and what they have put the country through for the last year?

Failure on the part of the Dems punishing their own will result in the public taking great relish in doing it for them.

The Dems have been telling the public to go pound sand on their views on health care reform for a year now, and the public just cannot wait to return the favor, just as they have done in New Jersey, Virginia and Massachusetts.


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This gives me hope!

4life (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 8:36AM EST (link)

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Massachusetts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s fun to watch, and at the same time Global Warming theory is imploding. I love the timing. It couldn’t be any more beautiful.

 

Don'tcha just love Dan Perrin?

Praying (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 8:39AM EST (link)

He is one of the most optimistic voices out there! Whenever I read his posts, I get a little shot of hope that all is not lost in this great country. And usually, he is spot on right. After reading Dick Morris’ depressing article on the state of Obamacare (http://newsmax.com/US/pelosi-reid-healthcare-obama/2010/01/24/id/347820) I was afraid that all was lost. And it may be, but at least Dan gives renewed life to the idea that Obamacare is truly dead. I pray that he is right!!

No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming

Dick Morris is almost always wrong

KeepOhioRed (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:00AM EST (link)

I cant tell you how many times he talked about John McCain’s brilliance during the campaign and how he was about to shoot past Obama in the polls. The worst one, in particular, was when McCain called to postpone the debate and rush to Washington for the big TARP crisis. Morris thought it was genius, and predicted the public would see it as real leadership. It didn’t.

I'm Not Getting Too Complacent But...

GJ Merits (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:20AM EST (link)

I am popping some champagne this weekend. Yes, Dick Morris is usually not right but I think we would be wise to at least target the 23 Dems he references in NewsMax article. There is another article where he actually names them: http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2010/01/22/defeating-obamacare-the-nail-in-the-coffin/. Here is the list:

Harry Mitchell = Arizona 5
Gabrielle Giffords = Arizona 8
Alan Grayson = Fla 8
Mark Schauer = Mich 7
Carol Shea-Porter = NH 1
Mike Arcuri = NY 24
Mary Jo Kilroy = Ohio 15
Kathy Dahlkemper = Pa 3
Christopher Carney = Pa 10
Tom Perriello = Va 5
Ann Kirkpatrick = Arizona 1
Baron Hill = Indiana 9
Dina Titus = Nevada 3
John Hall = NY 19
Stephen Driehaus = Ohio 1
Paul Kanjorsky = Pa 11
Dan Maffei = NY 25
Allan Mollohan = W Va
Nick Rahall = W Va
Steve Kagen = Wisc
Marion Berry = Arkansas
John Spratt = Georgia
Zack Space = Ohio 18

Just peel away a handful he says and its dead. My guess is if all these folks voted yeah then Pelosi would have 218. Peel away 1 and it’s toast. Peel away five or more and you have some wiggle room. So if you see your Rep here email, fax, and phone. If you want a someone to hand deliver a pre-election ballot with a personalized message to any of these folks and do it for free, I recommend going here: http://www.grassfire.com/128/petition.asp?pid=23521574.

Each delivery is just another nail in the coffin, but I say better safe than sorry. Get the nailgun out, the wooden stake, and drive it through the heart of this sucker.

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Forget about Mitchell

preeder (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:43AM EST (link)

Harry “Socialist” Mitchell was so proud of his vote he sent out rosy letter after letter to us, his angry constituents. I’d like to believe we could change his vote, but the guy is in La-La Land.

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Did Morris oppose socialized healthcare when he worked for Clinton?

Return to Revolution (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:02AM EST (link)

I appreciate his help in stopping the government takeover this time around but didn’t he work for the Clinton administration during the previous attempt? What does he think is different between then and now other than being paid by Clinton?

He really is the anti-Dan. I’ll accept depressing if its accurate but so far I agree he hasn’t been very accurate.

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

 
 

However, Morris is also one of the few voices out there now...

conservativemusician Tuesday, January 26th at 10:40AM EST (link)

That is consistently saying that the GOP can take over both houses in November, while most everyone else is saying that we will make gains, but the Dems will maintain control. Granted, he has made some miscalculations, but he is also looking at the positives as well for our side.

I think the point of Morris’ latest article you referenced here is to encourage us to remain vigilant until the final nail is in the coffin on health care reform. As we have seen time and time again, and as he mentioned in the article, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi will go to any lengths necessary to get this thing rammed through, so we are not yet at the point where we can stand down and we have to keep up the pressure on Congress

Again, thanks to Dan for a great post and update on the health care situation. Once again, his optimism has made my day!

Regards, CM

It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference

Scope (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 11:04AM EST (link)

whatever Dicky Morris says, he is wrong much more often than he has ever been right. I personally don’t believe that he has completed his 12 step withdrawal program to getting over Bill’s rejection of him, or rather Hillary’s rejection.

Yeah, for the most part, you're right Scope...

conservativemusician Tuesday, January 26th at 11:13AM EST (link)

But even a stopped clock is right 2 times a day. Morris at least is right on opposing the health care bill the Dems want and he is raising money on his web site to run anti-Obamacare ads in key swing districts where the Blue Dogs are. I’m willing to cut him a little bit of slack on this one.

Yes, absolutely on the ads

Scope (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 11:38AM EST (link)

no one would argue with that.

 
 
 
 
 

Demoncrats have him. That is the best thing that could have happened.

antisocial (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 8:46AM EST (link)

We want you to be right there on the precipice.

Please start pushing for health insurance in 6 weeks. And keep doing that until Thanksgiving.

Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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What is to be done?
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No. You can’t – Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!

 

Dems are addicts, too much, too soon.

johnt Tuesday, January 26th at 8:59AM EST (link)

Essentially they committed the same mistake as the Clintons in ’93.
Do it in stages, over two or three years, the pimp media will make heros of them, the power grab will have the appearance of moderation, and a few moderate Repubs may be suckered in also.
Fanatics don’t learn, add in stupidity and it gets worse.
Though they may still take the lesser route, we’ll see.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

 

They wanted a king

kmacwayne (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:01AM EST (link)

I am reminded of the people who walked with God but demanded a king. They got Saul – Saul who refused to wait on the Lord – arrogant, incompetent Saul – but then, they got David.
Look what one congressional seat was able to do – knock the giant out with one stone.
Let’s raise the discussion above the rhetoric and begin to ask our elected representative what they intend to do about health care reform now. Will they use it as salt in a wound, or will they use it as an invitation to get a seat at the table, to open ears and come to agreement on what the American people will accept?
Will they now squander the hard fought battle we have fought for them? Or will they get the message that we are tired of both parties failing to act in favor of the American public they serve.
We are David, and we still have stones in our pouches, we can still stand up to the political machine that is our government and demand better.
Each one of us who felt moved to push back, who could not seem to get past the idea that unless we personally did something, we would be failing ourselves, our children, and our God who has so blessed this country – each one of us, now needs to demand that that every single Congressman and Senator take a good look at Goliath lying there, bloody and dying and see themselves as well.

Amen!

cari Tuesday, January 26th at 12:43PM EST (link)

I just read that passage in 1 Samuel this morning and I love your application.

I’m also reading a book called “Sacred Pathways” by Gary Thomas, in which he defines nine “spiritual temperaments” or ways we relate to God or draw near to Him. One of those temperaments is the Activist, which you eloquently described as someone

“who felt moved to push back, who could not seem to get past the idea that unless we personally did something, we would be failing ourselves, our children, and our God who has so blessed this country”

Biblical examples for Activists include Moses and Elijah. Other examples are William Wilberforce and Francis Schaeffer. This book has helped me understand why I, too, felt the urgent need to personally DO something during this healthcare debate. And why I have so appreciated Dan and his optimistic posts and why I love coming to this website. I feel there are lots of kindred spirits here.

 

Just as apt a comparison would be David's grandson in 1 Kings 12

SoulEspresso Tuesday, January 26th at 1:06PM EST (link)

The people came to him and pleaded that he reduce government intrusion into their lives. He took a three day recess and consulted the old counselors, then his school buddies. The old guys, who knew human nature and history, said, “If you listen to the people, they will serve you. Cut back on government.”

The school chums said, “Tell them your little finger is thicker than your father’s waist.” (English Bibles say “little finger” because they tend to sanitize the earthiness of Hebrew culture.) Translation: raise taxes, don’t lower them; demand more service to the crown; intrude more than ever into their lives.

The school chums are so much the liberals/progressives or whatever they’re calling themselves this decade: despite the fact that every government program ever designed to solve a societal problem has made the problem worse, they still want more.

Rehoboam got himself a civil war; the situation in Massachusetts gives me hope that we can avoid that.

Great one!

cari Tuesday, January 26th at 1:47PM EST (link)

I love that application, too.

Another Old Testament story that reminds me of the healthcare battle is the one of Gideon and the Midianites. Once the “torch light of truth” revealed what was in the bill, the scene has been similar to the one Gideon saw:

“Then they just stood and watched as the whole vast enemy army began rushing around in a panic, shouting and running away. For in the confusion the Lord caused the enemy troops to begin fighting and killing each other, and they fled into the night…” (Judges 7:21,22)

 
 
 

Dan, maybe you can explain this to me.

Jonbontx Tuesday, January 26th at 9:02AM EST (link)

According to Dick Morris and AP articles, they keep claiming that the House Dems plan is to pass the Senate Bill with changes, and then send it to the President. If the House does any changes to the Senate Bill, doesn’t it have to go back to the Senate for a vote??

There is an article on Hot Air about it

earlgrey (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:32AM EST (link)

Very depressing. I can’t see how it would work, but I didn’t think it would get this far. Even Wyden of Oregon is advising them to slow this down.

 

Short answer: Yes

In The Hook (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:02AM EST (link)

Long answer is that Morris was referring to the “reconciliation sidecar” plan that Dan outlined above. There’s plenty of scuttlebutt on the Nutroots that those 51 signatures really are there, but the problem has now become the House. Everyone is up for re-election there and they know it’s a 50/50 shot that the GOP will win their chamber by November. So they have a decision to make; is it more politically sound to vote no and not give their GOP opponent an opening there or is it more sound to vote yes to try and inspire the Dem base?

The reality is that the senate bill is not inspiring to anyone on the left, which is why they are dreaming up this reconciliation sidecar proposal. They are deluding themselves to think they can actually still get the public option with this tactic! And that since the public option isn’t as toxic as the bill as a whole in the polls, the people will respond by applauding the Dems for taking the hard road.

That’s asinine. The public likes some of the Dem proposals in a vacuum, but they don’t like the price tag, they don’t like mandates and they don’t want additional bureaucracy. The public does want practices like removing the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions, but the political class well knows that passing such legislation without a mandate will drive premiums through the roof as the consumer pool will become much, much riskier. And once THAT happens, the people will be even more incesned with the politicians.

The Dems are stuck. They are absolutely stuck. By whipping up their caucus and activists for an entire year to focus on nothing but healthcare they have alienated the center and disaffected conservatives who voted Obama because they thought McCain was going to be totally incompetent (and there are quite a few fiscal conservatives who did this – they bought Obama’s “intelligence,” “seriousness” and fiscal centrism that he preached on the stump).

And by failing to deliver a bill that even whets the appetite of the leftist activist base, they’ve driven them all to distraction. Just look at the front page of DKos! Diary after diary of people saying that Obama is Hoover and they’re leaving or telling everyone else that they’ve all lost their minds. Of course, the latter are correct but the Dem caucus has always been undisciplined save for the Senate under LBJ and they’ve constantly engaged in the circular firing squad. They can’t help themselves. We have some infighting on the right from time to time, but we keep it in house and usually shut up in public.

Dan is right that this thing has become beyond toxic and even retreat isn’t a great option anymore because it will depress the activist base. I think retreat and a hard pivot to the economy is the best move, but Obama will have to throw some red meat to the liberal base on that issue too… which will only serve to disaffect more in the center and the working class type Ds. Their caucus is too fractious when it comes to governance right now and we need to take full advantage.

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earlgrey, fear not! Angry Matt is correct

Dan Perrin (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:10AM EST (link)

What Dick Morris is talking about is a secret PLAN.

What I am talking about is VOTES.

Know-what-I-mean?

 

Why Reconciliation Would Be Another Duplicitous BackRoom Strategy

GJ Merits (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 2:44PM EST (link)

While not common knowledge, the following is one reason that reconcilation would play right into the elitist, ignore the rules, jam this thing through narrative:

http://tinyurl.com/y8fpa33

I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents….James Madison

If you want to go fast – go alone. If you want to go far – go together.

To win against tyranny you must embrace not only novel solutions, but fear of the unknown as well.

 
 

see response to earlgrey below

Dan Perrin (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:10AM EST (link)
 

Dan you are the ONLY one who has consistently said....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:06AM EST (link)

That this HORROR would not pass and I am going to stick with you. It is ONLY you that has kept me from going off the deepend :)

A monkey wrench for the Senate health care reconciliation bill

Dan Perrin (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:23AM EST (link)

Gregg: GOP Would Make Reconciliation ‘An Extraordinarily Difficult Exercise’
The New York Times reports that Democrats face a new set of choices on whether to pursue the strategy of passing the Senate health care bill, plus a budget-reconciliation bill to modify it — with Republicans ready to throw up new procedural hurdles against that strategy. “It would be a very hard lift,” said Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH). “We would make it an extraordinarily difficult exercise.”

from: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/01/obama-new-bin-laden-tape-an-indication-of-how-weakened-he-is.php

 

Ditto that, and

hickorystick (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 11:25AM EST (link)

I’m moving out of the trenches, and going on the offensive. I just e-mailed the District chair volunteering to work on signage.

 
 

Here is the problem for the Dems

Jack_Savage (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:10AM EST (link)

America has grown used to hearing about one “crisis” after the other. The obesity crisis. The too much salt in your diet crisis. The better cook your hamburger all the way through crisis. Lefties have the podium, and they blather on every day about one crisis or the other, the public knows it has to tolerate this in order to live in America, they tune it out and life goes on.

When you start screwing with our lives on account of some manufactured crisis, we pay attention and push back. Health care in America is the best in the world. That is not a crisis. Health care costs are rising too fast, and everyone knew that this bill did not come close to addressing that because NO government bill comes close to addressing costs.

Every issue of cost has a free market solution that is simple and easy to implement. There is no need for comprehensive reform – this can be done in steps, with an analysis of the effects of one before going to the other. Dems are bound by their liberal philosophy, however, which makes the easy and rational solution beyond their reach.

 

There was also a school of thought

partyof1 Tuesday, January 26th at 9:26AM EST (link)

before the full Senate vote that “the votes aren’t there”. Then they lopped off the public option and presto.

Mitch McConnell said it best “Congress will pass something because Obama will sign anything”.

For some time the Dems have been operating out of fear of no bill rather than hope for a “good” bill. That fear has now been turned up to hysteria. They are like a cornered animal and it’s impossible to predict what they’ll do.

Consider that Dems are going to get hammered in Nov. for this wasted debacle of a year regardless if there is a bill or not, so they might as well get something. That will give their new entitlement a foothold and they can add to it later. Eventually they’ll craft a nice gravy train they can use to buy votes, just like with Social Security and Medicare.

“Obama will sign anything”. Even our blundering Congress can hit that target.

 

"you have me"

louisiana (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:37AM EST (link)

That statement removes all doubt about his narcissism, not that I had any. Not only will his ideology cause him to fail, but his narcissim will never allow him to accept responsibility, nor admit failure. It defines who he is. He wants healthcare only because he wants the power to control peoples’ lives. Demint’s comment about “Waterloo”, is forever on his mind. This is personal for him. As he is thwarted in his quest for power, he will really begin to unravel.

If you are a Dem, are you going to bet your job

Dan Perrin (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:12AM EST (link)

on “me” ?

Dan, I would not

louisiana (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:35AM EST (link)

bet MY job on “me”. To use some southern expressions, they are nuttier than a squirrel’s breakfast, and more crooked than a dog’s hind leg. I just can’t shake this uneasy feeling, that something is going on behind closed doors that we don’t even know about yet. I, as much as anyone, pray that YOU are right!

 
 
 

I sure hope this inflicted a "mortal wound."

Mayhem (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:44AM EST (link)

This administration has got to be stopped. Nothing short of an absolute rejection of socialist, thug politics in 2012 will be acceptable. We have got to run the table, this cycle and next.

James Madison, Jim DeMint, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… You get the picture.

By the time the economy gets done with THE ONE

Dan Perrin (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:13AM EST (link)

his poll numbers will never recover.

He is printing a trillion a year in U.S. currency to cover our obligations.

It cannot continue. And it won’t.

Meanwhile, the Dems burn time on health care.

There strategic posture is broken.

 
 

Let's not be asking for the Sepaker to step down...we want her right where she is tilting at HCR windmills

AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:45AM EST (link)

The Speaker is dangerous to the health and welfare of her party, and should step aside by taking responsibility for the firestorm that is consuming her party and consuming the members of her caucus

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

I'd take it further.

Steph C (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 9:47AM EST (link)

I want her to win re-election in a new Republican majority House in which the Republicans declare that the rules she set as Speaker will stay in force. But then, I’m mean sometimes.

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LOL...poetic justice?...Nothing mean about that! nt

AceInTX (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:10AM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

I think that's why there are so many "retirements."

Steph C (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:43AM EST (link)

These incumbents know that even if they work hard and manage to squeak through a re-election that payback is coming and they don’t want to face the consequences of their own actions.

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I knew it was dead,

patriotparty1 (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:08AM EST (link)

when I heard my local Pelosi lapdog Gene Green of Houston say the morning after the Mass vote on local radio that “he could not vote for the senate bill”.

This is a guy that comes from the energy capitol of the country and voted FOR cap and tax! He has kissed so much Pelosi and Obama rear that he is in a permanent pucker state now. But he managed to wrap his lips around those words. Gee I wonder if he smells the primary we are working to give him. And Shiela Jackson Lee too! We finally got a primary challanger for her. Can you say bye, bye, CONGRESSWOMAN!

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Dan my friend I have to give you a lot of credit

davidstone Tuesday, January 26th at 10:19AM EST (link)

You were the only one, THE ONLY PERSON, I heard/read/talked to/blogged with, etc. that said Obamacare would not pass. EVERYBODY but you were completely wrong.

There was no shortage of “well, they will give Obama something” “the dems are not going to waste this opportunity to grow government” “well, I thought it would not pass but after Nelson’s ransom, no I do think the dems are going to pass this” etc. etc. etc.

You have more credibility right now than anyone I have read. Someone above wrote about optimism. It was not optimism, you were right.

Congrads and thanks for the great analysis you have given us on this health care melodrama. Now, let’s kill this monstrosity – stab it so many time it no longer moves.

or let it crawl, mortally wounded, through

Dan Perrin (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:25AM EST (link)

Feb and March and April, angering the public more and killing off more Dems in the fall.

They are so delusional on health care, they’d likely fall for it.

It will not pass.

Yes Dan, you deserve alot of credit

Scope (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 11:24AM EST (link)

it was funny last night on the “panel” when Krauthammer was reminded of his predicting that Obama would get “something” passed as to Healthcare.” When Krauthammer is right he is right, and, when he is wrong, he is mortally wrong. So many rely on his words as gospel.

The only time I worried about you Dan, was when the Senate bill passed on Christmas Eve. It was as though you felt you had let everyone down, and, you were beating yourself up about it. I’m glad you decided to not count yourself short. You have been a fountain of knowledge and optimism for us all. Thank you!

 
 
 

needed this Ying to the Morris Yang

medicineman Tuesday, January 26th at 10:24AM EST (link)

The Morris piece also splashed some cold water on my face this morning.

I think the take away is:

1) They have worked SOOO hard on this that eventhough lastTuesday’s result pretty much sealed the deal for the rank in file in both the house and senate, the leadership is still going to scheme until they lose control of one of the houses.

2) We need to keep the pressure up, Can’t rest.

3) I was thinking that part of Dick’s job is to get funds. His piece helps this part of the equation.

Thanks Dan for the post. The timing was perfect

Taking Morris's words to heart

Scope (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 11:30AM EST (link)

is like believing that Luntz’s Duntz’s are the greatest prognosticators that ever lived. I’ll never forget his little diddy after one of the Republican debates. His duntz’s all agreed that Fred Thompson did the best job in the debate, but, they voted for another of the candidates as the winner.

 
 

To all the thank yous

Dan Perrin (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 10:27AM EST (link)

no need to thank me, it’s a labor of love.

Understand the Labor of Love

medicineman Tuesday, January 26th at 10:34AM EST (link)

Especially all of us who work in healthcare and don’t want it to turn into what is overseas or up north……

medicineman- Are you saying that you are not a supporter

Scope (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 11:32AM EST (link)

of the AMA! LOL

AMA ran by the same type of Elites.

medicineman Tuesday, January 26th at 3:34PM EST (link)

Funny thing is that only about 18% of all physicians are represented by the AMA. The most of elites that run the AMA “practice” if you call it that at the big Universities. Their salary is set no matter how many patients they see. They don’t have to worry about reimbursement, or running a practice. Obamacare wouldn’t affect them like us in the trenches.

I always laugh at the studies that show health-care providers are in favor of HCR. Look at the demographics and it is usually overly weighted on the urban practice.

 
 
 
 

Even the lefties know

In The Hook (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 12:00PM EST (link)

That going the sidecar route for any of the major components that are keeping liberals and some Blue Dogs from voting for the Senate bill would be disastrous..

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/01/26/tax-increases-medicare-cuts-and-special-give-aways-to-unions-are-democrats-actively-trying-to-lose-the-house/

“Hello? You play to win the game.”
Support conservatives that can win.
http://www.marcorubio.com

 

Danno

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 12:03PM EST (link)

Hey bro, you need a “do” in your headline. If you don’t see it, put it all on a single line and read it.

Always here for ya.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

thanks

Dan Perrin (Diary) Wednesday, January 27th at 1:23AM EST (link)

how did I miss that?

 
 

"to anything" is a synonym for the infinitive "to ruin" when

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Wednesday, January 27th at 1:30AM EST (link)

used as the verb in a sentence with the subject “Reid and/or Pelosi” :)