to save the day for Barry.

You made similar arguments that it was dead in the House, that Pelosi didn’t have the votes, yet in the end she got them. I really do hope there’s a poison pill for enough on both sides to keep any version from passing.

As climate change … they will put back abortion through the courts.

Anybody hear any talk about how the government rationed healthcare will lower costs or even improve quality. Isn’t that what you usually do when something is broken, improve it?

continue to “march off the cliff” like lemmings.

Dan, do you have some idea of where our Republican senators stand presently. Erick E has pointed out the the nightmare of our folks “helping to improve the bill.” We need to hear that our side is working to “kill the bill.”

Dan, what are your thoughts on this development?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/12/reconciliation_fandango_on_oba.html

“Senator Reid is essentially in some sort of strange death dance, where he pours gasoline all over the Senate floor and prepares to self-immolate.

But the Dems cannot help themselves. They cannot stop themselves. They will keep marching, right off the cliff. ”

You just said that to cheer us all up, didn’t you?

A quote I pulled from her website

“My amendment focuses on women’s health and women’s unique health needs. Keeping a woman healthy not only impacts her life, but it impacts her ability to care for her child and her parents….. Finally, my amendment would cover FAMILY PLANNING SERVICES!!!!

She rambles on for a whole page about how women are discriminated against by insurance because maternity costs more (like auto insurance doesn’t discriminate against young males ’cause we cost more) then casually slips in an “oh, by the way we’ll help women with ABORTION too!!”. But she does this in as sneaky and dishonest a way as anyone in Washington. She doesn’t use the word “abortion” once on her site. Just “family planning”, “preventive services”, and “comprehensive women’s health”. She’s a weasel if I’ve ever seen one!!

The goal of Republicans Senators when it comes to modifying this bill is to make it as bad as possible. Republicans shouldn’t help Democrats improve it, even if it’s “conservative” policy amendments that are being added. In fact, Republicans should help left-wing Democrats add as many “bad” amendments to this bill as they can. The only way to kill this bill is to spook moderate Democrats. I wouldn’t count on these left-wing Democrats that say they won’t vote for anything short of Universal Health Care. Since when is the word of a liberal worth anything?

I can easily see enough Republicans joining moderate Democrats to remove the public option amendment, thereby allowing passage to get over 60 since that has become the principle objection for the moderates. Figures like Snowe, Lieberman, Nelson, etc will vote at the very least to allow it to proceed once the public option is stripped, where then Reid will only need 50 votes for passage, which will be no problem.

In their case, we must treat their voting to remove it is the exact same thing as voting for the bill.

I know…Ace is giving Snow and Collins a positive comment? How likely is that?…Lucifer is pulling out a blanket as we speak because it’s getting cold down there…

All this assumes we can keep them on our side in the end…but for the moment, the Democrats are staying at this suicidal kamikaze attempt at passing this in the hopes they can get the Maine Twins or one of the other RINOs we haven’t heard anything from in a while on board…They’ll keep flailing themselves till they know that’s impossible…my only fear is…if one of these weasels decide they want the lavishing press they will receive for helping to pass this…someone like Voinovich who will be leaving next year anyway.

In fact Voinovich is the one I fear most because he’s made his contempt for Conservatives plain for all to see…what better way to put a thumb in their eye than to stick us with this on his way out the door. He’ll be praised by the press and receive a hero’s welcome to K Street because the Dems will pay him anything to buy his vote…

All I can say is…Pray earnestly and continually in this because every time I think we’ve slain this beast the Dems keep pulling the rabbit out of their hat…and so far they’ve managed to do it all alone…and out RINOs are chomping at the bit to grasp the brass ring and be declared a hero by the Press and the inside the beltway punditry for doing the hard work of saving us all from the privations and uncertainty that comes from the free exercise of out liberties!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson