I took Pelosi at her (twisted) word, when she said her focus had been on winning NY23rd…someone should look into whether the NY Rep party bosses were paid off by Pelosi to elect Scozzafava…maybe their plan was to have that token Rep vote “yes” on Pelosicare?

Can we dig up enough dirt on swing vote (pro-life and/or fiscal conservative) Dem (and Rep) Senators, to ensure they are not bought off by Reid with more of our tax dollars, e.g., special treats for their states? No need to worry about the pro-choice zealots changing their vote…just saying…rationality and good conscience (i.e., to represent their constituents)doesn’t seem to work on most of them anymore.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/political-browser/2009/11/rundown_-_111709.html#more

Although support for reform hasn’t increased, it hasn’t gone down either (despite the August town halls and the November 3 election results), so the risk to Democrats for supporting reform hasn’t increased all that much. We are hearing more grumbling from moderate Dems like Mark Warner, but the risk needs to be higher. The message has to be clearer.

I think if the Republicans had a serious, charismatic and effective spokesperson out there talking against the Dems’ reform proposals, support could drop below the current even split, and it would be extremely difficult for the Dems to vote for the current bills or “vapor” bill, when it materializes,

Mitch McConnell just isn’t very effective. Why don’t they get the two doctors out there? Barrasso from Wyoming is extremely likable and believable.

But the Senate version will be substantially different than the House version, and it cannot be passed and sent to the House as the same bill. The House bill would never get 60 votes in the Senate.

Yes, failure on the cloture vote on the motion to proceed will kill this bill. Now, there will be a whole lot of chest beating about how Sen. Reid needed the bill to fail to give him some negotiating room with the progressives, and hard core leftists, and that Reid can bring up a revised bill at any time, but, in my view, he will not try until well after Thanksgiving, if he tries again.

Each Senator can make up their mind, regardless of the polls, as we saw in the U.S. House.

But it takes only one Democratic Senator to vote against the motion to proceed to kill this bill, and if one U.S. Senator votes against the motion to proceed, many others will as well since there voting for it will do not good at all.

So, if the House bill fails on the motion to proceed or on cloture, does that kill this thing? Or does that just mean the House bill fails in the Senate and now the Senate has to make up its own thing? Will they vote again on a healthcare bill after a bill has already failed? Will they just keep voting until something is passed?

I read somewhere that this bill’s poll numbers have to decline by about 5 points in order for this bill to die. Why aren’t the Republicans seriously explaining to the American people what actually is in this bill? The fact that only 10% of Americans would be eligible for the public option – the Holy Grail for liberal Democrats in health care reform – is not known even by supporters of these reform bills!!

Then again, I don’t trust the American public. They seem to always be asking what the government can do for them. I guess Democrats are answering their requests.

Harry [won't] Reid [the Bill] — The blank Bill pages poker-faced Senator

in the words of my favorite Claire McCACKLE (D-MO):
“Don’t you Trust Me?”
and to think she was surprised at the laugh riot erruption she got!

Maybe it is just written on a post-it right under “Pick up Milk”.

“Pass Government Healthcare”

If they look like fools,

If they act like fools,

If they sound like fools,

uh,

they must be fools.

WE need a total enema in the Senate

Absolutely disgusting.