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	<title>Comments on: Carville: Only 57 Votes for ObamaCare in the Senate</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3103</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>want to avoid voting on the bill, and would be smart to want to see the motion to proceed fail so she would avoid the many tough votes she would have to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>want to avoid voting on the bill, and would be smart to want to see the motion to proceed fail so she would avoid the many tough votes she would have to take.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3102</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of ObamaCare</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of ObamaCare</p>
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		<title>By: andysmith</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3101</link>
		<dc:creator>andysmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen Ben Nelson in action long enough to know that he likes to talk a big game about fiscal responsibility, but he&#039;s a HUGE fan of earmarks and is always willing to listen to anyone claiming they can sweeten the pot for him if he breaks a way on a bill.
I&#039;ll continue to call his office and send e-mails, but I&#039;m not putting my faith in him at all until after this battle is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen Ben Nelson in action long enough to know that he likes to talk a big game about fiscal responsibility, but he&#8217;s a HUGE fan of earmarks and is always willing to listen to anyone claiming they can sweeten the pot for him if he breaks a way on a bill.<br />
I&#8217;ll continue to call his office and send e-mails, but I&#8217;m not putting my faith in him at all until after this battle is over.</p>
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		<title>By: conservativemusician</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3100</link>
		<dc:creator>conservativemusician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, I continue to marvel at how much life this stupid bill has for something that has been declared &quot;DOA&quot; in the Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, I continue to marvel at how much life this stupid bill has for something that has been declared &#8220;DOA&#8221; in the Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3099</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>contact your Senator is to hold a demonstration in front of his office in your State Capital, film it, and put the highlights on youtube and invite the media.

Get the tea partiers and the pro-lifers and the Chamber of Commerce and the anti-taxers and the Second Amendment right guys and the Seniors worried about Medicare -- United Seniors or 60+ groups and demonstrate!

Failing that, faxes and phone calls and emails are good, so are letters to the editor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>contact your Senator is to hold a demonstration in front of his office in your State Capital, film it, and put the highlights on youtube and invite the media.</p>
<p>Get the tea partiers and the pro-lifers and the Chamber of Commerce and the anti-taxers and the Second Amendment right guys and the Seniors worried about Medicare &#8212; United Seniors or 60+ groups and demonstrate!</p>
<p>Failing that, faxes and phone calls and emails are good, so are letters to the editor.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>being in the minority, that will keep them unified, the smell blood in the water and change you can believe in, is coming to the U.S. Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>being in the minority, that will keep them unified, the smell blood in the water and change you can believe in, is coming to the U.S. Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3097</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>votes, but now he has 57, he had the gang of six, now no gang of six, he had unified (mostly) Dems in the House, now he has 64 votes for pro-life restrictions and 39 Dems against even with pro-life restrictions, not to mention threats from pro-abortion Dems to kill the bill if the pro-life restrictions are not removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>votes, but now he has 57, he had the gang of six, now no gang of six, he had unified (mostly) Dems in the House, now he has 64 votes for pro-life restrictions and 39 Dems against even with pro-life restrictions, not to mention threats from pro-abortion Dems to kill the bill if the pro-life restrictions are not removed.</p>
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		<title>By: bags64</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>bags64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has to act on a passed bill by the house is until a new congress is seated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has to act on a passed bill by the house is until a new congress is seated?</p>
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		<title>By: jacon4</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>jacon4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>especially in an election year, it just sits there getting picked at and theres alot of picking going on in the house version. If harry doesnt get a vote to start debate by the xmas break, i&#039;d say its over for obamacare in this congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>especially in an election year, it just sits there getting picked at and theres alot of picking going on in the house version. If harry doesnt get a vote to start debate by the xmas break, i&#8217;d say its over for obamacare in this congress.</p>
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		<title>By: hoosierdad</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3094</link>
		<dc:creator>hoosierdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a question:  What&#039;s the most effective method of contacting your Senator?  Do they and their staff pay more attention to one or the other:  E-mail, phone calls, fax, snail mail?  

And what about contacting their DC office or regional offices? 

Or is the answer &quot;all of the above!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question:  What&#8217;s the most effective method of contacting your Senator?  Do they and their staff pay more attention to one or the other:  E-mail, phone calls, fax, snail mail?  </p>
<p>And what about contacting their DC office or regional offices? </p>
<p>Or is the answer &#8220;all of the above!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Third Street</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3093</link>
		<dc:creator>Third Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But that&#039;s just my opinion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that&#8217;s just my opinion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Third Street</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3092</link>
		<dc:creator>Third Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but if we begin to believe that the fix is in no matter what we do, then we have no hope. If we become fatalistic then we stop fighting, and then there is truly nothing to stop them. In too many conservative blogs and message boards I have seen people ascribe near-godlike powers to the Left; if I wanted to see a bunch of people who had already given up and accepted defeat before the fight had even begun I&#039;d go hang around Free Republic.

Dan Perrin&#039;s been doing a fantastic job laying out the facts on health-deform as we know them, and we can only operate based on what we &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; know. Time is on our side and the Democrat Party is split far more deeply than the major media will ever report. This whole thing was, after all, supposed to have been a done deal by August. I like our chances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but if we begin to believe that the fix is in no matter what we do, then we have no hope. If we become fatalistic then we stop fighting, and then there is truly nothing to stop them. In too many conservative blogs and message boards I have seen people ascribe near-godlike powers to the Left; if I wanted to see a bunch of people who had already given up and accepted defeat before the fight had even begun I&#8217;d go hang around Free Republic.</p>
<p>Dan Perrin&#8217;s been doing a fantastic job laying out the facts on health-deform as we know them, and we can only operate based on what we <i>do</i> know. Time is on our side and the Democrat Party is split far more deeply than the major media will ever report. This whole thing was, after all, supposed to have been a done deal by August. I like our chances.</p>
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		<title>By: lkdavis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3091</link>
		<dc:creator>lkdavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some Republicans will not be able to resist and will follow the lead of the Dems. Like a moth to a flame. The same flames that will burn as Emperor Obama fiddles.

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When you can&#039;t make them see the light, make them feel the heat. 
-Ronald Reagan
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It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority
keen to set brush fires in people&#039;s minds. 
-Samuel Adams</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some Republicans will not be able to resist and will follow the lead of the Dems. Like a moth to a flame. The same flames that will burn as Emperor Obama fiddles.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>When you can&#8217;t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.<br />
-Ronald Reagan<br />
                             ………………………………&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority<br />
keen to set brush fires in people&#8217;s minds.<br />
-Samuel Adams</p>
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		<title>By: scottbomb</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3090</link>
		<dc:creator>scottbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it DOES come to the senate floor, what are the odds are that it gets  passed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it DOES come to the senate floor, what are the odds are that it gets  passed?</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3089</link>
		<dc:creator>Menlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe she joined with Snowe in the Finance Committee, but it doesn&#039;t appear that bill will make it to the floor unless Reid changes his mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe she joined with Snowe in the Finance Committee, but it doesn&#8217;t appear that bill will make it to the floor unless Reid changes his mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayhem</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3088</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have a 3 + 1 agenda, remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have a 3 + 1 agenda, remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayhem</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3087</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they get 4 or 5 seats in the Senate and a good 30 in the House, they have completely neutered the Democrats agenda.  Nothing will get through a House that is that narrowly divided (its already barely majoritarian with 250+ seats for the Dems).  Plus, with 45 Senators, McConnell can filibuster almost everything.

The advantage to leaving the Dems in power (but with severely reduced majorities) is that we can stop this stuff, but the Dems will still get all the blame come 2012.  Otherwise, Obama will finally have his biggest strawman to blame... a GOP Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they get 4 or 5 seats in the Senate and a good 30 in the House, they have completely neutered the Democrats agenda.  Nothing will get through a House that is that narrowly divided (its already barely majoritarian with 250+ seats for the Dems).  Plus, with 45 Senators, McConnell can filibuster almost everything.</p>
<p>The advantage to leaving the Dems in power (but with severely reduced majorities) is that we can stop this stuff, but the Dems will still get all the blame come 2012.  Otherwise, Obama will finally have his biggest strawman to blame&#8230; a GOP Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayhem</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3086</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to quote Tolkien again:  &quot;Even the smallest person can change the course of the future.&quot;

You may yet be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to quote Tolkien again:  &#8220;Even the smallest person can change the course of the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>You may yet be right.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayhem</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3085</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States.&quot;  

-- U.S. Constitution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States.&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8211; U.S. Constitution</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mullins</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/14/carville-only-57-votes-for-obamacare-in-the-senate/#comment-3084</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and when he goes in the Senate, he always has a kick-me sign on his back. Besides, we now know way too much about him and Dingy Harry isn&#039;t all that liked in the Senate right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and when he goes in the Senate, he always has a kick-me sign on his back. Besides, we now know way too much about him and Dingy Harry isn&#8217;t all that liked in the Senate right now.</p>
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