Comments on: Senator Nelson (D-NE): “it’ll never get here.” http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:56:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mbecker908 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2990 mbecker908 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:02:15 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2990 By: sapwolf http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2984 sapwolf Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:29:47 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2984 I guess he is not a 'Palin Democrat', so maybe we can't expect him to vote very often with a GOP majority if the Senate was taken back. I guess he is not a ‘Palin Democrat’, so maybe we can’t expect him to vote very often with a GOP majority if the Senate was taken back.

]]> By: sapwolf http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2983 sapwolf Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:26:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2983 Nelson seems like a...... Palin Democrat Nelson seems like a……

Palin Democrat

]]> By: mbecker908 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2981 mbecker908 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:51:09 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2981 Period. He's no better than John Kerry or Harry Reid. Period.

He’s no better than John Kerry or Harry Reid.

]]> By: mbecker908 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2980 mbecker908 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:48:38 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2980 He is the enemy of freedom and is a bigger threat to liberty in the US than the Taliban. It's guys like Nelson that will figure out a way to get "something" passed that will nationalize healthcare. The the Democrats will slowly add back whatever doesn't get included in the original bill. Same on card check. Ben Nelson is no Patriot either. He's an enabler who makes it possible for the Marxist in Chief to get his agenda passed, and passed with cover. This approaches about the dumbest thread I've seen on Redstate. He is the enemy of freedom and is a bigger threat to liberty in the US than the Taliban. It’s guys like Nelson that will figure out a way to get “something” passed that will nationalize healthcare. The the Democrats will slowly add back whatever doesn’t get included in the original bill.

Same on card check.

Ben Nelson is no Patriot either. He’s an enabler who makes it possible for the Marxist in Chief to get his agenda passed, and passed with cover.

This approaches about the dumbest thread I’ve seen on Redstate.

]]> By: treeofliberty http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2979 treeofliberty Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:25:18 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2979 I wish Dems in Jersey would sound more like this instead of the idiot socialists we have running around. I wish Dems in Jersey would sound more like this instead of the idiot socialists we have running around.

]]> By: GOPMOM http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2978 GOPMOM Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:19:08 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2978 MA and ME Tea Parties will visit Portland on Monday. We will meet with an aide, assuring her that she will receive no money and no support if she lets this debacle go through. MA and ME Tea Parties will visit Portland on Monday. We will meet with an aide, assuring her that she will receive no money and no support if she lets this debacle go through.

]]> By: GOPMOM http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2977 GOPMOM Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:49:09 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2977 We will visit Senators Snowe and Collins on Monday, November 16. Join us at Canal Plaza. Let's make sure our Senators are bolstered - know they have our support if they follow the will of the people. We will visit Senators Snowe and Collins on Monday, November 16. Join us at Canal Plaza. Let’s make sure our Senators are bolstered – know they have our support if they follow the will of the people.

]]> By: clowngirl http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2973 clowngirl Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:19:34 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2973 on my Facebook page and posted a silly sketch of him. I'm going to send it to him along with a thank you letter tommorow. Hopefully it'll bring a little amusement to someone and convey the gratitude I - and so many others feel. Have decided to make a more regular effort to acknowledge those politicians, etc. who are actually doing something right. :) on my Facebook page and posted a silly sketch of him. I’m going to send it to him along with a thank you letter tommorow. Hopefully it’ll bring a little amusement to someone and convey the gratitude I – and so many others feel.

Have decided to make a more regular effort to acknowledge those politicians, etc. who are actually doing something right. :)

]]> By: DavidSage http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2971 DavidSage Thu, 12 Nov 2009 06:08:38 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2971 The point is, a Bayh heir might have a huge tailwind, but they're certainly not invincible. If a politician like Dan Quayle can knock "royalty"like that off, so can a lot of other Republicans. Indiana is a very conservative state, and my guess is Bayh knows he's not invincible. The state threw his dad out because he was exposed as a liberal, he has to remember that lesson. If Bayh votes casts his lot with Obama, the Prince of Indiana suddenly becomes very vulnerable. The point is, a Bayh heir might have a huge tailwind, but they’re certainly not invincible. If a politician like Dan Quayle can knock “royalty”like that off, so can a lot of other Republicans.

Indiana is a very conservative state, and my guess is Bayh knows he’s not invincible. The state threw his dad out because he was exposed as a liberal, he has to remember that lesson.

If Bayh votes casts his lot with Obama, the Prince of Indiana suddenly becomes very vulnerable.

]]> By: Menlo http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2965 Menlo Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:40:37 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2965 The Obama administration and Planned Parenthood would love for you to believe that. As with everything else they say, it is a lie. First, the Hyde Amendment is not all-purpose for "federal funds." It applies only to Medicare. Other federal health programs rely on their own amendments. Second, the Stupak Amendment DOES allow for the purchase of policies that include abortion, even in the "exchange," so long as the policy is not available to those receiving subsidies. In addition, ANYONE may purchase a separate abortion rider for a policy in the "exchange." Either way, Hyde has nothing at all to do with it. The Obama administration and Planned Parenthood would love for you to believe that. As with everything else they say, it is a lie.

First, the Hyde Amendment is not all-purpose for “federal funds.” It applies only to Medicare. Other federal health programs rely on their own amendments.

Second, the Stupak Amendment DOES allow for the purchase of policies that include abortion, even in the “exchange,” so long as the policy is not available to those receiving subsidies. In addition, ANYONE may purchase a separate abortion rider for a policy in the “exchange.”

Either way, Hyde has nothing at all to do with it.

]]> By: Mayhem http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2963 Mayhem Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:02:45 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2963 He wouldn't have gotten the seat (or the governorship) if his dad wasn't patriarch of the Democratic Party in Indiana. He wouldn’t have gotten the seat (or the governorship) if his dad wasn’t patriarch of the Democratic Party in Indiana.

]]> By: nickinvirginia http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2956 nickinvirginia Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:28:18 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2956 I just disagree that he would bring a House bill...he brings the Senate bill only, because the senate committees made the Senate bill. I just disagree that he would bring a House bill…he brings the Senate bill only, because the senate committees made the Senate bill.

]]> By: nickinvirginia http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2955 nickinvirginia Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:27:38 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2955 I thought, and I'm pretty sure of this, that the Hyde amendment simply states that no federal dollars shall go toward the funding of abortions. So, that wouldn't be limited to just Medicare or Medicaid, but to any legislation unless the language is contradicted by a statute later in time (that's how the court's interpret conflicting statutes). So, then do you think that when a tax break is given to an employer for providing health insurance, even insurance that provides for abortion, that the Hyde Amendment is being violated? Because what I understand is that the Hyde Amendment allows for this, essentially, because it is happening. So, if Stupak, again as I understand it, doesn't allow for isurance within the exchange to provide abortion coverage because it is set up with federal funds, then wouldn't women who are in the exchange because they either A. are in a small business or B. are buying insurance as individuals, be unable to buy abortion coverage? Even women who are above the level of receiving any federal tax breaks because they make too much money? So, then wouldn't that be beyond the Hyde Amendment's language? That is just the way I understand it. I thought, and I’m pretty sure of this, that the Hyde amendment simply states that no federal dollars shall go toward the funding of abortions. So, that wouldn’t be limited to just Medicare or Medicaid, but to any legislation unless the language is contradicted by a statute later in time (that’s how the court’s interpret conflicting statutes). So, then do you think that when a tax break is given to an employer for providing health insurance, even insurance that provides for abortion, that the Hyde Amendment is being violated? Because what I understand is that the Hyde Amendment allows for this, essentially, because it is happening.

So, if Stupak, again as I understand it, doesn’t allow for isurance within the exchange to provide abortion coverage because it is set up with federal funds, then wouldn’t women who are in the exchange because they either A. are in a small business or B. are buying insurance as individuals, be unable to buy abortion coverage? Even women who are above the level of receiving any federal tax breaks because they make too much money? So, then wouldn’t that be beyond the Hyde Amendment’s language?

That is just the way I understand it.

]]> By: DavidSage http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2951 DavidSage Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:22:04 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2951 I'm sure Evan Bayh remembers that quite well. I’m sure Evan Bayh remembers that quite well.

]]> By: E Pluribus Unum http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2950 E Pluribus Unum Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:06:30 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2950 And that is no small problem, with screaming left-wing judges, left-wing cabinet positions getting nominated at every turn these days. He may be a "solid conservative" for Nebraska, but he still voted for Sotomayor. Anybody that runs against him could go to town on that, and any other party-line votes And that is no small problem, with screaming left-wing judges, left-wing cabinet positions getting nominated at every turn these days.

He may be a “solid conservative” for Nebraska, but he still voted for Sotomayor. Anybody that runs against him could go to town on that, and any other party-line votes

]]> By: JoeG http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2949 JoeG Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:03:56 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2949 His mortality is staring him in the face. His mortality is staring him in the face.

]]> By: Mayhem http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2945 Mayhem Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:26:08 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2945 is to vote in favor of cloture. It doesn't matter who it helps or hurts. There have been a few exceptions to this, namely the immigration bills of 06 and 07, where he voted to cut off debate. I'm guessing the weight of this bill will be significant enough for him to vote against cloture. is to vote in favor of cloture. It doesn’t matter who it helps or hurts. There have been a few exceptions to this, namely the immigration bills of 06 and 07, where he voted to cut off debate. I’m guessing the weight of this bill will be significant enough for him to vote against cloture.

]]> By: Mayhem http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2944 Mayhem Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:21:44 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2944 The Bayhs in Indiana are like the Kennedy's in MA, or the Carhahans in MO, or the Udalls out west. It hard to beat a Bayh. That said, if the right guy (or gal) got in this cycle, Bayh would have to finally earn that seat that his daddy gave to him. Mike Pence would instantly make it a race. Lt. Gov. Becky Skillman would also make it competitive, but I think she has he sights set on the governor's mansion. The Bayhs in Indiana are like the Kennedy’s in MA, or the Carhahans in MO, or the Udalls out west. It hard to beat a Bayh.

That said, if the right guy (or gal) got in this cycle, Bayh would have to finally earn that seat that his daddy gave to him. Mike Pence would instantly make it a race. Lt. Gov. Becky Skillman would also make it competitive, but I think she has he sights set on the governor’s mansion.

]]> By: Mayhem http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/11/senator-nelson-d-ne-itll-never-get-here/#comment-2943 Mayhem Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:16:30 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/?p=1729#comment-2943 Man, I sure do miss seeing Zell around. His "spitballs?!" speech at the 04 convention will go down in the annals of history. Man, I sure do miss seeing Zell around. His “spitballs?!” speech at the 04 convention will go down in the annals of history.

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