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	<title>Comments on: FireDogLake Attacks Sen. Nelson&#8217;s Demand to include Stupak Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: jackhammer</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/10/firedoglake-attacks-sen-nelsons-demand-to-include-stupak-amendment/#comment-2867</link>
		<dc:creator>jackhammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the left is always so happy to talk about negotiated medicare rates beign the basis of their health care plan, because the evil doctors are earning too much....but somehow I think with the combo of medicare being for seniors and the hyde ammendment, there probably isn&#039;t a negotiated rate for abortion, but how abotu we set it at $1 or so, and then no doctorss will see it as a means of making any money, or even covering costs, then it would sort of dissapear.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the left is always so happy to talk about negotiated medicare rates beign the basis of their health care plan, because the evil doctors are earning too much&#8230;.but somehow I think with the combo of medicare being for seniors and the hyde ammendment, there probably isn&#8217;t a negotiated rate for abortion, but how abotu we set it at $1 or so, and then no doctorss will see it as a means of making any money, or even covering costs, then it would sort of dissapear&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/10/firedoglake-attacks-sen-nelsons-demand-to-include-stupak-amendment/#comment-2842</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>writeblock

precisely</description>
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<p>precisely</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/10/firedoglake-attacks-sen-nelsons-demand-to-include-stupak-amendment/#comment-2841</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this bill will be a financial windfall that inflates and props up a dying (pun intended) abortion industry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this bill will be a financial windfall that inflates and props up a dying (pun intended) abortion industry</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/10/firedoglake-attacks-sen-nelsons-demand-to-include-stupak-amendment/#comment-2840</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is imposing the restrictions, not you personally</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is imposing the restrictions, not you personally</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/10/firedoglake-attacks-sen-nelsons-demand-to-include-stupak-amendment/#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have been upheld in courts repeatedly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have been upheld in courts repeatedly</p>
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		<title>By: writeblock</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/10/firedoglake-attacks-sen-nelsons-demand-to-include-stupak-amendment/#comment-2794</link>
		<dc:creator>writeblock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben Nelson has vowed to vote against the bill if it lacks a pro-life amendment. Together with Lieberman, that would kill the bill--unless Reid reconfigures it and rejects the public option--which may win over Lieberman but presents other headaches on the left. Meanwhile if the pro-life amendment is stripped from the bill, the Stupak gang threatens to vote it down in the House. How do the liberals get out of this quandary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben Nelson has vowed to vote against the bill if it lacks a pro-life amendment. Together with Lieberman, that would kill the bill&#8211;unless Reid reconfigures it and rejects the public option&#8211;which may win over Lieberman but presents other headaches on the left. Meanwhile if the pro-life amendment is stripped from the bill, the Stupak gang threatens to vote it down in the House. How do the liberals get out of this quandary?</p>
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		<title>By: djemi</title>
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		<dc:creator>djemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, the individual should not have the right to pick and choose what there personal tax dollars are spent on, but our reps should and do and we can influence said reps. Otherwise we would end up with a trick box form form the IRS with a question like- do you want your taxes spent on the military, roads, education etc. 
Having said that new unique biological life begins at concemption(in womb) and thus should have all the rights of those life forms(out womb) that can sustain themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, the individual should not have the right to pick and choose what there personal tax dollars are spent on, but our reps should and do and we can influence said reps. Otherwise we would end up with a trick box form form the IRS with a question like- do you want your taxes spent on the military, roads, education etc.<br />
Having said that new unique biological life begins at concemption(in womb) and thus should have all the rights of those life forms(out womb) that can sustain themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we taxpayers have the right to say our tax money shouldn&#039;t be used for abortions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we taxpayers have the right to say our tax money shouldn&#8217;t be used for abortions?</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the vigilant eyes of these people  Abortion is their showpiece policy and they&#039;re not going to just let go of it.  No matter what they have to do, abortion will still be there and they will allow no restrictions on it.

Our votes for or against mean nothing in this context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the vigilant eyes of these people  Abortion is their showpiece policy and they&#8217;re not going to just let go of it.  No matter what they have to do, abortion will still be there and they will allow no restrictions on it.</p>
<p>Our votes for or against mean nothing in this context.</p>
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		<title>By: djemi</title>
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		<dc:creator>djemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m just a simpleton but can someone please explain how the Dems can argue that a woman has the right to choose(sbortion) yet the individual  doesn&#039;t have the right to choose(mandate to buy health insurance) to buy health insurance or not.

I&#039;ve ask my critter but got the standard I don&#039;t want to speak for the critter from the office intern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m just a simpleton but can someone please explain how the Dems can argue that a woman has the right to choose(sbortion) yet the individual  doesn&#8217;t have the right to choose(mandate to buy health insurance) to buy health insurance or not.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve ask my critter but got the standard I don&#8217;t want to speak for the critter from the office intern.</p>
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		<title>By: spimnyborg</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/11/10/firedoglake-attacks-sen-nelsons-demand-to-include-stupak-amendment/#comment-2741</link>
		<dc:creator>spimnyborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>others (on the front page here and many others) have said it quite well and thoroughly...

this is about voting away our Freedom 

Passing this bill will throw the country far ... FAR ... down the road of turning the people of this country from citizens into serfs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>others (on the front page here and many others) have said it quite well and thoroughly&#8230;</p>
<p>this is about voting away our Freedom </p>
<p>Passing this bill will throw the country far &#8230; FAR &#8230; down the road of turning the people of this country from citizens into serfs</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and then go back to writing stories about how glad they are that the GOP is so divided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and then go back to writing stories about how glad they are that the GOP is so divided.</p>
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		<title>By: jackhammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackhammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite opposed to socialized government run or government mandated health insurance....

But if the Stupak and Nelson ammendments are included that would really close down Planned Parenthood, because abortion is pretty much their only profitable service.....I don&#039;t see that many people buying supplemental abortion insurance, and I don&#039;t see many people providing it, because who offers insurance for something that costs between $500-700?  What would the premiums even be...and who would buy that anticipatory?

So this ammendment could de facto decimate the number of doctors performing abortions.....

As I said, I am very much against the health care takeover, but would be torn  if having it happen also meant having less than half as many abortions as we currently have......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite opposed to socialized government run or government mandated health insurance&#8230;.</p>
<p>But if the Stupak and Nelson ammendments are included that would really close down Planned Parenthood, because abortion is pretty much their only profitable service&#8230;..I don&#8217;t see that many people buying supplemental abortion insurance, and I don&#8217;t see many people providing it, because who offers insurance for something that costs between $500-700?  What would the premiums even be&#8230;and who would buy that anticipatory?</p>
<p>So this ammendment could de facto decimate the number of doctors performing abortions&#8230;..</p>
<p>As I said, I am very much against the health care takeover, but would be torn  if having it happen also meant having less than half as many abortions as we currently have&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cargosquid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cargosquid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If its added, then one more reason for RINO&#039;s to vote against it will be lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If its added, then one more reason for RINO&#8217;s to vote against it will be lost.</p>
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