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	<title>Comments on: The Pelosi Bill: Cost, Mandates and Taxes</title>
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		<title>By: redpens</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2189</link>
		<dc:creator>redpens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unconstitutional. Nancy doesn&#039;t like that nasty little thing called the Constitution. She did swear an oath to defend it, not to defend her Speakership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unconstitutional. Nancy doesn&#8217;t like that nasty little thing called the Constitution. She did swear an oath to defend it, not to defend her Speakership.</p>
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		<title>By: dclamage</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2185</link>
		<dc:creator>dclamage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any bill over 200 pages should be summarily dismissed by Congress.</description>
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		<title>By: LDahl752</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2182</link>
		<dc:creator>LDahl752</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please let RS readers know a little about Michael Hammond?  Is he a Managing Director of Shattuck Hammond Partners, who has focused on the healthcare services industry for over 25 years?  I got that information here:  

http://shattuckhammond.com/About/Professionals/michael-hammond.shtml

Quite an impressive resume!  I&#039;d say the guy would definitely know what he is talking about; and, I bet he has scrutinized that monstrous Bill quite thoroughly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please let RS readers know a little about Michael Hammond?  Is he a Managing Director of Shattuck Hammond Partners, who has focused on the healthcare services industry for over 25 years?  I got that information here:  </p>
<p>http://shattuckhammond.com/About/Professionals/michael-hammond.shtml</p>
<p>Quite an impressive resume!  I&#8217;d say the guy would definitely know what he is talking about; and, I bet he has scrutinized that monstrous Bill quite thoroughly.</p>
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		<title>By: marshmom</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>marshmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....a fool will scorn you for it.  

All you can do is give them the information.  What they do with it is their problem.  Some people will always be fools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..a fool will scorn you for it.  </p>
<p>All you can do is give them the information.  What they do with it is their problem.  Some people will always be fools.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2165</link>
		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;None so deaf as will not hear&quot;.

All you can do is to keep trying and keep the documentation. However, some Obama voters are starting to wake up and smell the coffee; whether enough will do so in time is another matter. And you can never predict what particular item will call the scales to fall off.

In the longer term, the question is the divisiveness issue - with the country at each others&#039; throats, how well can our historical system deal with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;None so deaf as will not hear&#8221;.</p>
<p>All you can do is to keep trying and keep the documentation. However, some Obama voters are starting to wake up and smell the coffee; whether enough will do so in time is another matter. And you can never predict what particular item will call the scales to fall off.</p>
<p>In the longer term, the question is the divisiveness issue &#8211; with the country at each others&#8217; throats, how well can our historical system deal with this.</p>
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		<title>By: larryp</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2152</link>
		<dc:creator>larryp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even if I geive than the page nr or the code sec. Invented by isurance cos
and not true and allthese things even if there will be fixed in committee. And if you are injured don&#039;t you want to collect.
 Teachers, union workers, 55-65 yr old former hippes whofel so b for people and how they people have been scrod by the administrations past.
They filibuster anytthing I say, talk over me. They all do the same thing, same technique. Must be taught that somewhere. 
To wit, never let an idea go unchallenged or even be stated so someone can hear it.Like overgrown children,interrupt the speaker and talk ofver him or her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even if I geive than the page nr or the code sec. Invented by isurance cos<br />
and not true and allthese things even if there will be fixed in committee. And if you are injured don&#8217;t you want to collect.<br />
 Teachers, union workers, 55-65 yr old former hippes whofel so b for people and how they people have been scrod by the administrations past.<br />
They filibuster anytthing I say, talk over me. They all do the same thing, same technique. Must be taught that somewhere.<br />
To wit, never let an idea go unchallenged or even be stated so someone can hear it.Like overgrown children,interrupt the speaker and talk ofver him or her.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2151</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>behavior issue later today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>behavior issue later today.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Perrin</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2150</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The political behavior by the Democrats on health care has been irrational, and they are just beginning to pay the price -- but I do not believe that enough Democrats are that irrational to allow this bill to pass.

I do not see this as an abortion, taxes, spending, reform design, public option -- one issue will prevent the bill from passing -- it is the entire irrational strategic political posture of the Democrats that will combine to produce enough votes to kill the bill.

Think of it like an organism trying not to die, because many of its members will be dead come election day if this passes, and they are not all so irrationally dazed not to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The political behavior by the Democrats on health care has been irrational, and they are just beginning to pay the price &#8212; but I do not believe that enough Democrats are that irrational to allow this bill to pass.</p>
<p>I do not see this as an abortion, taxes, spending, reform design, public option &#8212; one issue will prevent the bill from passing &#8212; it is the entire irrational strategic political posture of the Democrats that will combine to produce enough votes to kill the bill.</p>
<p>Think of it like an organism trying not to die, because many of its members will be dead come election day if this passes, and they are not all so irrationally dazed not to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: rick554</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2148</link>
		<dc:creator>rick554</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will personally find 20 new registered voters  to toss my Congressman outta  DC. Not a threat  ,  a promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will personally find 20 new registered voters  to toss my Congressman outta  DC. Not a threat  ,  a promise.</p>
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		<title>By: rick554</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2149</link>
		<dc:creator>rick554</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will personally find 20 new registered voters  to toss my Congressman outta  DC. Not a threat  ,  a promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will personally find 20 new registered voters  to toss my Congressman outta  DC. Not a threat  ,  a promise.</p>
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		<title>By: tomllewis</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2147</link>
		<dc:creator>tomllewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Thank you very much for a very informative post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Thank you very much for a very informative post.</p>
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		<title>By: gonzo55</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>gonzo55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great link!  I don&#039;t have &quot;3d&quot; glasses nearby --- I&#039;ll admit I&#039;m not tuned in to the latest fads like these --- but it was pretty scary nonethelesss!  And this will REALLY reach the under-30 crowd, it really puts Dear Leader&#039;s Maoist ideology in terms that even a 29-year old can understand!  I&#039;m going to post it to my son&#039;s Facebooks page so all of his friends can see it.  If each one of us does something like this, little by little we can make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great link!  I don&#8217;t have &#8220;3d&#8221; glasses nearby &#8212; I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;m not tuned in to the latest fads like these &#8212; but it was pretty scary nonethelesss!  And this will REALLY reach the under-30 crowd, it really puts Dear Leader&#8217;s Maoist ideology in terms that even a 29-year old can understand!  I&#8217;m going to post it to my son&#8217;s Facebooks page so all of his friends can see it.  If each one of us does something like this, little by little we can make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/10/31/the-pelosi-bill-cost-mandates-and-taxes/#comment-2144</link>
		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abortion - How much will Stupak and company stick to their guns? I read one article where he said adding Hyde-like restrictions at least needs to be allowed a floor vote. Would it pass on the floor? If so, does that make some moderate Dems more likely to vote for the final bill?

Spending - Adding &quot;affordable&quot; to the title doesn&#039;t make it affordable. How much will the blue dogs stick to their guns? I saw in a tweet that Pelosi&#039;s latest threat to the moderate Dems is that they&#039;d better vote for it if they want to make money as a DC lobbyist after they lose their seat next year. That seems to be an odd threat, but maybe it carries weight with a few of the moderates if they can&#039;t imagine life outside DC.

Doc fix - Will Pelosi be able to prevent the GOP from offering the doc fix as an amendment? That would be an interesting vote to watch, as it would put the lefties in the position of opposing a bill that they favor, as long as it&#039;s not lumped with health care where it belongs. If it comes up and passes, are the blue dogs then less likely to vote for the final bill when it&#039;s clear that it costs $1.3T and adds $150B to the deficit (even in the best case) instead of the $900B cost and $100 deficit reduction Pelosi is claiming? Killing this sleight of hand seems the key to killing this bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abortion &#8211; How much will Stupak and company stick to their guns? I read one article where he said adding Hyde-like restrictions at least needs to be allowed a floor vote. Would it pass on the floor? If so, does that make some moderate Dems more likely to vote for the final bill?</p>
<p>Spending &#8211; Adding &#8220;affordable&#8221; to the title doesn&#8217;t make it affordable. How much will the blue dogs stick to their guns? I saw in a tweet that Pelosi&#8217;s latest threat to the moderate Dems is that they&#8217;d better vote for it if they want to make money as a DC lobbyist after they lose their seat next year. That seems to be an odd threat, but maybe it carries weight with a few of the moderates if they can&#8217;t imagine life outside DC.</p>
<p>Doc fix &#8211; Will Pelosi be able to prevent the GOP from offering the doc fix as an amendment? That would be an interesting vote to watch, as it would put the lefties in the position of opposing a bill that they favor, as long as it&#8217;s not lumped with health care where it belongs. If it comes up and passes, are the blue dogs then less likely to vote for the final bill when it&#8217;s clear that it costs $1.3T and adds $150B to the deficit (even in the best case) instead of the $900B cost and $100 deficit reduction Pelosi is claiming? Killing this sleight of hand seems the key to killing this bill.</p>
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		<title>By: njre</title>
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		<dc:creator>njre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick Morris says the best way to now stop ObamaCare is to educate those under 30. This 3-D, anti-Obamacare ad is a great way to do it on their own turf: YouTube. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpQlTN9kgfo

THIS is how conservatives need to start diversifying their messages to the youth audience so conservative messages all aren’t just scenes of tea parties and paintings of patriotic scenes. Please make this go viral, everyone. Please hurry! We can make an impact!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick Morris says the best way to now stop ObamaCare is to educate those under 30. This 3-D, anti-Obamacare ad is a great way to do it on their own turf: YouTube. </p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpQlTN9kgfo</p>
<p>THIS is how conservatives need to start diversifying their messages to the youth audience so conservative messages all aren’t just scenes of tea parties and paintings of patriotic scenes. Please make this go viral, everyone. Please hurry! We can make an impact!</p>
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