The hero of the innocents, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI), issued a clear and credible threat to the Speaker earlier this week, which resulted in the White House telling HHS Secretary Sibelius to say the President wants an explicit ban on abortion in ObamaCare.
From The Hill:
A leading pro-life Democrat in the House is threatening to block healthcare reform if Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) doesn’t allow a vote that would prevent the bill from funding abortions.
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), co-chairman of the House Pro-Life Caucus, says the Democratic leadership must allow a vote adding the “Hyde Amendment” to the bill. That amendment prevents federal dollars from going to abortion funding.
“First of all, you have to give us our vote,” Stupak told CBN News, repeating the message he’s relaying to the Democratic leadership. “If you don’t give us our vote, everything’s off the table.”
Pro-life Democrats have the votes, all by themselves, to kill health care reform in the U.S. House.
Representative Stupak opposes the Capps amendment, which was an attempt in the Energy and Commerce Committee version of HR 3200 to have-abortion-in-the-bill-but-say-its-not.
Rep. Stupak wants his own vote on his own amendment, or he will kill health care reform in the House.
He can do it.
He will do it.
Therefore, the White House, via Sibelius, came out Sunday professing to want an explicit ban on abortion funding — which violates the promise President Obama made to planned parenthood about abortion being a key benefit in health care reform.
The question is whether any liberal Democrats will deny their vote for final passage of ObamaCare, should Rep. Stupak get a vote or if he does get a vote, his amendment passes?
How many of the liberal ideological favorites can Obama walk away from and still have their support? So far, its abortion, benefits for illegal immigrants and the public option.
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Incredible (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 3:37PM EST (link)Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI). As Moe says, this is non-negotiable.
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Dan Perrin (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 3:43PM EST (link)The guy is going to save millions of lives, should the unexpected happen, and ObamaCare passes.
do you have that link....
yoyo (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 4:34PM EST (link)Where Obama promised Planned Parenthood?
THAT would be a good read!
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Abortion is the third rail
Richard Mullins (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 3:46PM EST (link)when it comes to issues like health. Just insert it and instantly the bill is DOA.
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19 Pro-Life Dems and the Letter to Pelosi
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 3:54PM EST (link)19 Dems sent a stern letter to Pelosi at the end of June. I wrote in July that the 19 could blow this whole thing up. If nothing else, it will cause more dissension from his radical flank.
http://www.redstate.com/swamp_yankee/2009/07/02/can-abortion-derail-health-care-legislation/
The 19:
Reps. Dan Boren (D-OK); Bart Stupak (D-MI); Colin Peterson (D-MN); Tim Holden (D-PA); Travis Childers (D-MS); Lincoln Davis (D-TN); Heath Shuler (D-NC) Solomon Ortiz (D-TX); Mike McIntyre (D-NC); Jerry Costello (D-IL); Gene Taylor (D-MS); James Oberstar (D-MN); Bobby Bright (D-AL); Steve Driehaus (D-OH); Marcy Kaptur (D-OH); Charlie Melancon (D-LA); John Murtha (D-PA); Paul Kanjorski (D-PA); and Kathleen Dahlkemper (D-PA).
Here's hoping they're serious about this... -nt-
Gandalf (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 4:42PM EST (link)Christian Conservative First
Patriotic American Second
Dedicated Republican Third
Yes, the order is important.
Healthcare Debate A Waste of Time
Spartan4Life (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 5:07PM EST (link)Until we get a bill out of reconciliation.
My complaint is that everyone is arguing against the reform without even knowing what it is. Until a bill comes out of reconciliation it really doesn’t even exist.
I wish Rep. Stupak well but, suppose his amendment does pass and then is cut in reconciliation? Will he stand up to Speaker Pelosi and vote against?
My fear is they will create a bunch of smokescreens, reconcile in the dead of night, and then try to fasttrack passage before anyone knows what is in or out of the final bill.
The Republicans ought to be pushing for an amendment that says minimum of two weeks after reconciliation for people to read and digest what they are doing to us.
It does not matter what will be in the bill
voicefromthevoid Wednesday, September 16th at 9:55AM EST (link)For the one simple reason that once it becomes a law, it will necessarily be used to boost taxes under the guise of ever growing health services prices and at the very same time real spending on health services will be constantly diminished by rationing, thus pouring uncounted billions (and unaccounted for too) into demoratic coffers, giving them unheard of before power.
That’s like “stimulus bill”, so far the only visible effect of which are transferring American automotive industry into unions property, while promised positive effects on the economy are invisible and nonexistent. Should Obama’s healthcare pass, regardless of form or content, there will be huge new tax spent on boosting his friends wealth and power, while healthcare will go down the drain. What will be in the bill might only affect the magnitude and how fast the damage will be done, not the fact of damage.
Obamacare is fatal to doctor supply!!
illinois (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 9:56PM EST (link)Why isn’t there more focus placed on Obama’s lies when he says docs are for Obamacare. Most are not. Below is a link yet to another study showing that the majority of docs do not support Obamacare and many would consider quitting the practice! And, why not? If Obummer is going to cut their reimbursements—dictate how they should practice, make them perform abortions, and not provide any relief for tort and liability reform. What incentive does anyone have to be a doctor?
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=506199
ACORN will train a whole new crop of Docs to replace
Achance (Diary) Tuesday, September 15th at 10:13PM EST (link)the filthy capitalist docs we have now. Don’t worry, you’re in good hands.
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Lost in all this rush to compromise - Democrats don't follow the Laws they pass (Abortions, as promised to PP - WILL BE COVERED)
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Wednesday, September 16th at 12:39AM EST (link)as if they are going to actually care what the final Laws say, they WILL be funding Abortions anyway REGARDLESS…. The LINE ITEM CHARGES that will be paid WON’T SAY: “ABORTION” THEY WILL BE “BIRTHING SERVICES” but there just won’t be any LIVE BABY DELIVERY in those “Services” ….. I mean really…. We gonna wake up from this usual “RE-Define the Terms” dodges/scams the Democrats are allowed to get away with?!?!?!
THERE CAN BE NO COMPROMISE WITH THESE PEOPLE! and these The Senate HC “Gang Of Sicks” (formerly 7, but Hatch left and that didn’t have the fun play on words
lol) are the most dangerous in DC right now!!!!
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