The Financial Times is reporting that President Obama is attempting quell a revolt within his Party on Obamacare.
Gee, I wonder why? Could it be that from Charlie Cook to Larry Sabato are predicting big gains for Republicans in the Congress? Could it be that these now vulnerable House and Senate members are angry that President Obama and the Democratic Leadership has so completely fumbled the health care ball that it is now an open possibility that nothing at all will happen.
Could the Dems, once again, suffer a huge loss of seats in the U.S. House of Representatives, by merely attempting to take over the U.S. health care industry?
You bet. Sabato is predicting the Dems lose between 23 and 41 House seats.
And now, these are the two outcomes, as predicted by Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE):
“I see two endings,” Mr Nelson told the Journal Star newspaper on Thursday. “One is we find areas we can agree upon and begin to do things incrementally taking more of an insurance approach, not a government approach. The other is that it [the bill] implodes.”
As if to reinforce the implosion scenario, here is the next graph of the story:
Meanwhile, Jan Schakowsky, a leading progressive [House] Democratic lawmaker, said liberals were not prepared to climb down. “I will support nothing short of a robust public health insurance plan upon implementation – no triggers,” she said. “I believe Congress will pass and the president will sign such a bill.”
So the hard core single payer Dems are at HELL NO on an incremental approach.
And in the health care version of duck and cover, Sen. Lincoln reversed herself on the public option after spending a month back home. Roll Call reports:
Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), still facing the prospect of a tough re-election in 2010, has reversed her position on the public insurance option, saying Tuesday she will oppose the measure as a part of health care reform after previously expressing support for the policy, the Arkansas News reported.
Roll Call calls Senator “Lincoln’s vote on a health care reform bill could be key as the Senate Democratic leadership looks to build a coalition of 60 Senators to pass legislation without using reconciliation.”
And the use of reconciliation as a tactic is suffering the same fate of Obamacare — members of Congress simply would rather not walk the plank on the single issue that is essentially burning the Democratic House to the ground.
They would just rather not vote at all (read: implode). In fact, according to polls, the American public would rather Congress just not do any health care reform, and work on fixing the economy instead.
And should the Dems come knocking for help from the GOP to help them save their plan?
There is an old saying, you did not want me with you on the take-off, and now that the plane is losing altitude and its engines are on fire, you are inviting me to help you fly it?
Uh-huh. It is much safer, and more fun, to watch, thank you very much.
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On the surface this obviously looks bad for Democrats
cclive Friday, September 4th at 1:23AM EST (link)but could serve to embolden the Progressives. If a public option is removed and the Progressives band together and don’t vote for health care reform without it, killing it in the House, then the Progressive block just gained a certain amount of political power. This would have greater implications than just health care, the Progressives would have demonstrated the willingness to use their power and so would demand more influence in any and all future legislation.
Stand back and let the Dems talk amongst themselves
illinois (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 1:36AM EST (link)Watching the Dems from the campaign, election to now——-and how they neutered themselves by their arrogance and infighting—-they’re self destructing! Let’s just enjoy and savor the moment. Meanwhile—people like lil ol me are reading “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky to study the opposition—-and have on order “Rules for Conservative Radicals” by Leahy-tea party founder. The whole thing is like a 10 ring circus—–watching from the comfort of our homes! Who would have thunk it—-what they’ve done to themselves!
Yes, it is a
Dan Perrin (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 1:48AM EST (link)popcorn moment
One that is not likely to come again for some time.
You don't think cap and trade
Cheryl (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 2:03AM EST (link)will follow healthcare?
“A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America, than the whole force of the common enemy.” –Samuel Adams
“The administrative state has inserted its big paws into our houses, from the toilet bowl to the light socket. Now if it would just stretch those paws from the one to the other at the same time, we might begin to recapture the spirit of ’76.” –Scott Johnson, Powerlineblog.com
No, because I think Cap and Tax
Dan Perrin (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 2:48AM EST (link)is dead
Concern trolling here, cclive?
civil truth (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 3:54AM EST (link)I suppose that sawing through the tree branch you and your buddies are sitting does give you power over future tree limb discussions (if your can find anyone who will climb up tree and sit with you on another limb.)
But it’s not exactly going to be a worrisome action for those of us who are not sitting on the same branch as you.
(Just to clarify, “you” here is used as an indefinite pronoun. I was not referring to you personally, cclive, when I wrote “you” above.)
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Oh please "progressives" will have power....
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 6:42AM EST (link)get a GRIP they have no power and never will. The Democrats have the numbers they have because of NORMAL Democrats, moderates to liberal NOT the progressive leftists in their party. The D’s recognize the folly of those tools and in such they weld NO POWER at all. Recognize cclive if they did we would already have the hammer & sickle would be in the flag! I am quite unsure why you keep sucking up to D’s on this site though. One need only follow what you are saying to see you are not Conservative and I would stretch and say you are not a Republican either! Just my observations.
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Within the Democratic party they do and they could gain more
cclive Friday, September 4th at 3:24PM EST (link)They are the ones that pushed Obama ahead in the primaries against Clinton, she had the whole thing all wrapped remember? Progressives came out strong for him and now they are feeling betrayed on health care reform. They aren’t exactly a rational bunch and could certainly trigger a civil war within the party.
Look at it this way, if nothing gets past Obama looks even weaker than he does now and if its because of the Progressives within his own party that looks even worse.
RE. The progressives killing healthcare.
kyle8 (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 6:53AM EST (link)Oh please don’t throw me in that briar Patch Ber Fox!
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
They keep saying
Dan Perrin (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 8:37AM EST (link)they will!
Try not to enjoy it too much in there.
I think you are correct
Dan Perrin (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 1:32AM EST (link)and I think that is exactly what they are thinking.
obama head is in
bobojake (Diary) Friday, September 4th at 2:22AM EST (link)the basement of an outhouse in 100 degree heat with reid and pelosi.
They are dripping from the head down with it.