The Washington Post is reporting that Senator Grassley, the ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, has been convinced by his August recess experience (like this one) to stand-down on broad spectrum health care reform. The Post also quotes Senator Snowe, one of the three Republicans that make up the Gang of Six negotiating health care reform with the Chairman Baucus, the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, as saying the main take away from the August recess is that people like their health care the way it is now.
The effect of Grassley and Snowe backing off means Obamacare can never — not ever — get 60 votes in the Senate, because Senator Grassley’s and Senator Snowe’s agreement would have put enormous pressure on the moderate Democratic Senators to play ball on the Obama plan. And if you read between the lines of Senator Grassley’s quotes in the Post story, it is clear the American public do not believe the President’s campaign promise “if you like your plan you can keep it.”
Now, Senator Grassley is supporting, he says, a narrower measure. What narrower measure? Good question. I am sure that the Gang of Six, or however many are left, will let us know when they decide.
Yet another blow to Obamacare came from Charlie Cook. In what constitutes an emergency political message to the Democratic Congress, election analyst Charlie Cook sent out a special, unscheduled newsletter to his subscribers. According to Politico, Cook warned the political situation in August (read: Obamacare) “has slipped completely out of control.” Cook is so hyper-sensitive to criticizing his Democratic colleagues, he did not even use the words health care. Instead, he cited “August.”
Charlie Cook says in his emergency warning newsletter to the Democrats that his own estimates of a loss of 8 to 12 Dem House seats “are far too low.” Cook added, “We believe it would be a mistake to underestimate the impact that this mood will have on Members of Congress of both parties when they return to Washington in September, if it persists through the end of the Congressional recess.”
First, the moderate GOP Senators Grassley and Snowe back off big picture health care reform. Then, Cook warns the Dems that his estimates of them losing a dozen seats in the House next election are “far too low.” And President Obama’s approval ratings are at an all time low, and yet, President Obama still is out trying to drum up support for Obamacare. He keeps doing what is causing his polls to sink.
And is that Obamacare with or without a public plan? Who knows? A majority of the Ameircan public want Congress to do nothing on health care reform. Nothing, yet President Obama keeps pushing Obamacare.
It is beginning to look like this analysis, posted Sunday, was right on the money.
The key reporting elements of the Washington Post story, where Senators Grassley and Snowe back off health care reform, follow:
Sen. Charles E. Grassley, a key Republican negotiator in the quest for bipartisan health-care reform, said Wednesday that the outpouring of anger at town hall meetings this month has fundamentally altered the nature of the debate and convinced him that lawmakers should consider drastically scaling back the scope of the effort.
After being besieged by protesters at meetings across his home state of Iowa, Grassley said he has concluded that the public has rejected the far-reaching proposals Democrats have put on the table, viewing them as overly expensive precursors to “a government takeover of health care.”
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“Not just on health care, but on a lot of other things Congress has done this year, people are signaling that we ought to slow up and find out where we are and don’t spend so much money and don’t get us so far into debt,” he said in a telephone interview between stops in Iowa Falls and Ames, where he has been leading foreign diplomats on a week-long tour of the state. The Finance Committee group is still discussing a “comprehensive” plan for extending coverage to millions of uninsured families, he said, but revisiting that approach would be “a natural outcome of what people may be getting from the town hall meetings.”
As the senior Republican on the Finance Committee, Grassley has the potential to attract GOP votes by giving his blessing to a bill, and congressional Democrats and the White House consider him the key to winning bipartisan support for President Obama’s top domestic priority. In recent days, however, some Democrats have accused Grassley of trying to undermine the reform effort, for example by refusing to debunk rumors that the Democratic health bills would create “death panels” empowered to decide whether the infirm live or die.
On Wednesday, he denied those claims and fired back at Obama, saying the president should publicly state his willingness to sign a bill without a controversial government-run insurance plan. Such a statement, he said, is “pretty important . . . if you’re really interested in a bipartisan bill.”
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On Wednesday, Grassley made clear that he remains committed to pursuing a health-care bill, provided it does not “make things worse” for people who are happy with their insurance or add to swollen budget deficits. His remarks echoed those of other key Republicans — including [3] Sens. Olympia J. Snowe (Maine) and Mike Enzi (Wyo.), the other GOP negotiators on the finance panel — as well as some Democrats, who are quietly urging Obama and congressional leaders to lower their expectations for what can be accomplished this year in the interest of building momentum for future reform.
Enzi, who said he could support a larger measure, said in an e-mail message that it would be more “effective” to break the bill into parts. Snowe, who is being courted by administration officials, said she told Obama in a White House meeting this month that he should take a more “practical approach” toward reform legislation that “doesn’t so transform the system that it undercuts what is best about our existing health-care system.”
“If there’s anything we’ve learned during the course of this August recess,” Snowe said in a telephone interview Wednesday, “it’s that there are many people who are satisfied with their health insurance. And that’s important. And we want to make sure it stays that way.”
And now, because of the American people’s reaction to Obamacare, even the moderates are backing off — big time.
There are three people to blame for the Democrats’ “completely out of control” political situation: President Obama, Speaker Pelosi and Chairman Waxman. Are they the three horsemen of the Democratic Party Apocalypse? What’s your view?
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Charlie Cook should just tell the Democrats that 2010...
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 6:41PM EST (link)will be historic if they continue down this road to socialism!
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I remember the losses the Dems took because of
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 9:18PM EST (link)Hillarycare.
No one saw it coming until four to six weeks before the election.
If Cook is warning the Dems now, as he is, they will be very spooked.
Why is there now talk of two bills?
Because the Speaker does not have the votes for the Waxman train wreck.
5 5 5 nt
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I think politically they are screwed
cclive Thursday, August 20th at 9:33PM EST (link)if they don’t pass anything then the GOP claims success and hammers them in 2010. If they pass a weak version with no Public Option then the far left will feel betrayed and sit out.
pretty much
Dan Perrin (Diary) Friday, August 21st at 2:28AM EST (link)the left is really pissed.
We need a picture
muffin Thursday, August 20th at 6:44PM EST (link)of Yosemite Sam holding both six-shooters in the air saying “BACK OFF” to send to all our congressmen. Can’t really call them representatives anymore.
Fortitudine vincimus – By endurance we conquer
Back off, or lose your
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 9:18PM EST (link)job
Moderate
erp Thursday, August 20th at 6:44PM EST (link)Snowe is moderate in the sense of a Democrat, not in the sense of a Republican. She should shape up or change parties.
erp
Lib-y Charlie Cook Is *Still* Low-Balling This, Big Time
IJB Thursday, August 20th at 7:19PM EST (link)Just a 20 seat gain?! (6-12 seats is even more patently ridiculous.)
Come on – that’s not even serious.
Again, there are *35* currently Dem-held House seats where Cook’s *own* PVI is R+5. Combine that with Rasmussen’s R+5% on the generic congressional ballot, and there’s no way the GOP gain won’t be more like 30 (or more).
But, then again, Cook played this same game back in ’93-’94: even at the end, I don’t think he ever came out and definitively predicted that the GOP would win the House – I think he proffered a more mealy mouthed “they *might* win the House…” prediction.
Bah!
Exactly right.
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 9:20PM EST (link)So the fact that Cooks sends out this special newsletter means he is very worried about his Dem pals.
The Dems are well-aware that they won't get all of their people to support this
Bill S (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 7:29PM EST (link)That’s why they’re now floating the reconciliation strategy. There’s no reason to mess with that unless they think they’ll have less than 60.
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
Yes
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 9:20PM EST (link)Why talk reconciliation if you have 60 votes?
You don’t.
They're Not Backing Off Yet...
gahazzah (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 7:40PM EST (link)… they’re just changing tactics. The huge “don’t read it, just sign it” type of reform bills worked in the past (Patriot Act, Stimulus, every budget bill, et cetera) so there really was precedent that this would work as well being that the DNC was banking on “The One” being untouchable forever it would seem.
The move backfired and now we’re just seeing the fallout and reorganization. We’re going to see the government take over health care it just won’t be all at once. They’ll break it into separate bills and kill us with crumbs.
You’ll see “Single Payer” in a budget bill if an Obamacare care bill doesn’t come out of this Congress.
/government
Doesn't matter
lurker9876 Thursday, August 20th at 8:22PM EST (link)The Democrats will lose some seats regardless of whether Obamacare contains public option or not.
Cook is half right. He just forgot to warn the Dems that if they pass Obamacare with the public option, they will lose the majorities.
But his warning could not come at a worse
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 9:22PM EST (link)time for Speaker Pelosi and Chairman Waxman.
As they are trying to get their own members to back their own plan, and they can not.
Charlie just made their attempts that much more difficult.
Grassley isn't a Snowe like moderate
RandomGuy (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 8:32PM EST (link)And he shouldn’t be lumped together with her.
Grassley’s lifetime ACU is 83, and he’s with us on most tough votes. He’s basically liberal on farm subsidies, a must in Iowa, and a mainstream conservative on everything else.
Snowe’s is 47 and she isn’t with us on most tough votes. We aren’t going to get much better in Maine, but that’s the numbers.
Anyhow, they shouldn’t be lumped together. They are very different.
Draft Mitch Daniels for President ’12
I agree with that though Grassley can sure burn me up......
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 8:36PM EST (link)I applaud his STANDING with his constituents though that takes an incredibly courageous and HONEST man!
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The odds of Senator Grassley
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 9:24PM EST (link)agreeing to a bill that the Democrats agree with, just dropped like a rock.
And I agree, he is listening to his voters.
Woe be to those that do not, they will not be back.
Like that Glenn Beck conspiracy theory...
lurker9876 Thursday, August 20th at 9:03PM EST (link)anyone willing to bet that a liberal poster would claim that Bush had it all planned just prior to his departure that Obama would fail?
Right, I forgot,
Dan Perrin (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 9:25PM EST (link)the failure of Obamacare is Bush’s fault.
Correction
DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 10:47PM EST (link)“…has been convinced by his August recess experience to stand-down on broad spectrum health care reform.”
Should say “…has been convinced by his August recess experience to stand-down on A broad spectrum LIBERAL VERSION OF health care reform.”
We can’t let them win the PR battle over our desire for reform. They want to try and get away with saying we have no alternative and are willing to let people die in the streets. I want to see GOP commercials touting free market solutions that keep individuals in charge of life’s most personal choices.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
I stand
Dan Perrin (Diary) Friday, August 21st at 2:30AM EST (link)corrected
So do I
rec0n Friday, August 21st at 11:00AM EST (link)We need reform. Wasting the time fighting this pos bill instead of getting it really ticked me off.
No Compromise
DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 11:00PM EST (link)The only reform that should be pushed must contain free market reforms that reduce, not increase, government involvement. We all know the list of required/desired reforms conservatives would support.
The GOP should also be out making the Constitutional argument that government run health care is simply unconstitutional. How hard would be to challenge the Democrats to publicly state the part of the Constitution that supports their goal. This is what the Constitution is for! Use it. If we can’t draw a Constitutional line in the sand here and now can we ever? If not the Constitution becomes weaker and weaker and socialism will continue to grow.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
Forgot to add
DerKrieger (Diary) Thursday, August 20th at 11:02PM EST (link)Call, write, send a carrier pigeon and ask Snowe, Collins, Grassley et al about the Constitutionality of Obamacare. Make them defend any support they give.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.” — John Locke, 1690
the Constitution vs Obamacare
shorty Friday, August 21st at 7:18AM EST (link)I totally agree!!! The republicans are missing many opportunities to defeat OBOMA and OBOMACARE. They should challenge him to publically address the American people and defend the Constitutionality of Obamacare.. Not only this but his other policies (proposals) also. He can not.