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	<title>Comments on: Desperation from the White House on Health Reform: the DNC Targets Democrats with TV Ads</title>
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		<title>By: larryp</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/dan_perrin/2009/07/18/desperation-from-the-white-house-on-health-reform-the-dnc-targets-democrats-with-tv-ads/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>larryp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>take this option in perpetuity. Actually why not show us how it is done by fixing Medicare and Medicaid and SS.
The obamites sure have enmity for Boomers, the parents of boomers and other
elderly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>take this option in perpetuity. Actually why not show us how it is done by fixing Medicare and Medicaid and SS.<br />
The obamites sure have enmity for Boomers, the parents of boomers and other<br />
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		<title>By: Menlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear and see ads all the time for local hospitals and doctors. I can&#039;t count the number of ads I see for laser eye surgery for $599 an eye.

However, I have heard that it is in poor taste for them to advertise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear and see ads all the time for local hospitals and doctors. I can&#8217;t count the number of ads I see for laser eye surgery for $599 an eye.</p>
<p>However, I have heard that it is in poor taste for them to advertise.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that line this week (can&#039;t recall the source) and thought I was going to keel over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that line this week (can&#8217;t recall the source) and thought I was going to keel over.</p>
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		<title>By: toni100</title>
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		<dc:creator>toni100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let the Democrats and those legislators who support government healthcare put their money where their mouth is and commit to taking the public option for their health care.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://cwan.org&quot;&gt;Send your legislator the “Congressional Healthcare Equality Pledge”&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the Democrats and those legislators who support government healthcare put their money where their mouth is and commit to taking the public option for their health care.</p>
<p><a href="http://cwan.org">Send your legislator the “Congressional Healthcare Equality Pledge”</a></p>
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		<title>By: silvernana</title>
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		<dc:creator>silvernana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 67 years old and the fact is Medicare is going to cut and the quality of life of the elderly will suffer greatly.  I find out today that part of the Medicare cut will go to cover migrant workers, or as we knowo them, illegal aliens.  Please go to this website.  I hope you get as angry as I am, and pass this on to everyone you know.  If enough people know this, we can stop this train wreck.  Sorry, I don&#039;t know how to link to this, but it is:  directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/06/red-alert-la-raza-if-american-people.html.  Menendez and La Raza are trying to pull a fast one on the American people.  Let him know he can&#039;t get by with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 67 years old and the fact is Medicare is going to cut and the quality of life of the elderly will suffer greatly.  I find out today that part of the Medicare cut will go to cover migrant workers, or as we knowo them, illegal aliens.  Please go to this website.  I hope you get as angry as I am, and pass this on to everyone you know.  If enough people know this, we can stop this train wreck.  Sorry, I don&#8217;t know how to link to this, but it is:  directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/06/red-alert-la-raza-if-american-people.html.  Menendez and La Raza are trying to pull a fast one on the American people.  Let him know he can&#8217;t get by with this.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She could get a plan with a 7,000 or 10,000 deductible for under $250 per month. I looked at one for my son and I a few a years ago. If she is young is may be even less. I think it was $150 - $180  for us but that was a few years ago. This would protect a business or a home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She could get a plan with a 7,000 or 10,000 deductible for under $250 per month. I looked at one for my son and I a few a years ago. If she is young is may be even less. I think it was $150 &#8211; $180  for us but that was a few years ago. This would protect a business or a home.</p>
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		<title>By: ktsub</title>
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		<dc:creator>ktsub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...that the Democrats are DIVIDED.  Can you imagine if the RNC targeted moderate Republicans, we would hear repeated over and over again, how the GOP is divided againsts itself!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;that the Democrats are DIVIDED.  Can you imagine if the RNC targeted moderate Republicans, we would hear repeated over and over again, how the GOP is divided againsts itself!!!</p>
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		<title>By: waltsfour</title>
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		<dc:creator>waltsfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such would be a great step.  I seem to remember, however, that there are restrictions on advertising for medical services.  Out of curiosity, does anyone know what those might be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such would be a great step.  I seem to remember, however, that there are restrictions on advertising for medical services.  Out of curiosity, does anyone know what those might be?</p>
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		<title>By: waltsfour</title>
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		<dc:creator>waltsfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently, the government does provide Medicaid, which has an element of catastrophic coverage.  If a person is found &quot;medically necessary&quot; and if they &quot;spend down&quot; their resources (namely, pay their medical bills) to a certain level, Medicaid will kick in and pay the rest.  Two current problems with the system: 1) the administratively adjudicating someone as Medically necessary takes time; 2) a person must spend through almost all of their assets and become indigent.   One could improve the program by simplifying the eligibility guidelines for a &quot;medically necessary&quot; individual and allow for more asset protection.

One problem with government safety nets is their potential to grow.  The reason why Medicaid is based on categorical eligibility (one must be a child, pregnant, parent, medically necessary, elderly) and financial eligibility is that if the only criteria were financial, the constant question would be where does one draw the line.  If one creates a safety net with a doughnut hole, there will be constant pressure to close that hole.

I personally pay out of pocket for my health insurance.   My health insurance plan consists of a low premium with a high deductible.  So far, I have not made use of the deductible, I essentially keep it as a catastrophic insurance.  The last time I was sick I went to the Minute Clinic at the local CVS Pharmacy.  I was attended after a 30 minute wait and I paid $20 dollars out-of-pocket.  Maybe a similar plan would work for your daughter.  Best of wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently, the government does provide Medicaid, which has an element of catastrophic coverage.  If a person is found &#8220;medically necessary&#8221; and if they &#8220;spend down&#8221; their resources (namely, pay their medical bills) to a certain level, Medicaid will kick in and pay the rest.  Two current problems with the system: 1) the administratively adjudicating someone as Medically necessary takes time; 2) a person must spend through almost all of their assets and become indigent.   One could improve the program by simplifying the eligibility guidelines for a &#8220;medically necessary&#8221; individual and allow for more asset protection.</p>
<p>One problem with government safety nets is their potential to grow.  The reason why Medicaid is based on categorical eligibility (one must be a child, pregnant, parent, medically necessary, elderly) and financial eligibility is that if the only criteria were financial, the constant question would be where does one draw the line.  If one creates a safety net with a doughnut hole, there will be constant pressure to close that hole.</p>
<p>I personally pay out of pocket for my health insurance.   My health insurance plan consists of a low premium with a high deductible.  So far, I have not made use of the deductible, I essentially keep it as a catastrophic insurance.  The last time I was sick I went to the Minute Clinic at the local CVS Pharmacy.  I was attended after a 30 minute wait and I paid $20 dollars out-of-pocket.  Maybe a similar plan would work for your daughter.  Best of wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: bobojake</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobojake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kill trees for the incompetent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kill trees for the incompetent.</p>
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		<title>By: bobojake</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobojake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are interested in reform but not destroying the best Healthcare in the World like obama did, housing with the help of dodd,ACORN, reid, peloski, and frank, the banking industry with the help of Geithner and schummmmmmmmmmmer, and destroying the AUTO Industry with the help of the Unions thugs.  Community organizers with the mentality of ayers the terrorist, frankie the communist and rev wright the I hate America radical do not know how to mange or fix a things just destroy and we are sick of it. We ain&#039;t takin it no more obumer and the thugs. Mark it on your calender.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are interested in reform but not destroying the best Healthcare in the World like obama did, housing with the help of dodd,ACORN, reid, peloski, and frank, the banking industry with the help of Geithner and schummmmmmmmmmmer, and destroying the AUTO Industry with the help of the Unions thugs.  Community organizers with the mentality of ayers the terrorist, frankie the communist and rev wright the I hate America radical do not know how to mange or fix a things just destroy and we are sick of it. We ain&#8217;t takin it no more obumer and the thugs. Mark it on your calender.</p>
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		<title>By: ManekiNeko</title>
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		<dc:creator>ManekiNeko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Every health provider must publish their prices by procedure code.

Comment:   Without price information available to the consumer, there is no competition, and without competition, it&#039;s not free-market capitalism.

2) For each procedure code, there can be one and only one price.

Comment:   (2) follows from (1).  No more charging the one person full price and another 10% of that amount.  

3) To make this all easier, *allow* the use of the Relative Value Study (RVS), RBRVS, or other openly published method of rating relative cost of procedures.   A provider who adopts such a method sets the dollar value per unit and need only publish which method is being used and the multiplier.

Comment:   Auto mechanics use this method, and it works well and consumers understand it.   They have estimator books that tell how many hours each repair takes.    And they charge their shop rate (set by them) times that number
of hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Every health provider must publish their prices by procedure code.</p>
<p>Comment:   Without price information available to the consumer, there is no competition, and without competition, it&#8217;s not free-market capitalism.</p>
<p>2) For each procedure code, there can be one and only one price.</p>
<p>Comment:   (2) follows from (1).  No more charging the one person full price and another 10% of that amount.  </p>
<p>3) To make this all easier, *allow* the use of the Relative Value Study (RVS), RBRVS, or other openly published method of rating relative cost of procedures.   A provider who adopts such a method sets the dollar value per unit and need only publish which method is being used and the multiplier.</p>
<p>Comment:   Auto mechanics use this method, and it works well and consumers understand it.   They have estimator books that tell how many hours each repair takes.    And they charge their shop rate (set by them) times that number<br />
of hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Repair_Man_Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Repair_Man_Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dsmurf</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsmurf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these Blue dogs have proven to be yellow bellied with cash on the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these Blue dogs have proven to be yellow bellied with cash on the line.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#160;</description>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting elected is more important than DNC money - if the Blue Dogs feel there is a legitimate shot that they&#039;ll lose next year if they vote for this bill, they&#039;ll vote against it. 

I&#039;m still of the opinion that this bill will never even get to the Senate, as it will either lose on the floor of the House, or will get pulled if the leadership realizes they&#039;ll lose the vote. 

I just don&#039;t see what&#039;s in it for a so-called &#039;Blue Dog&#039; to vote for this. Heck, it&#039;s bad enough than some *non*-Blue Dogs may end up voting against it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting elected is more important than DNC money &#8211; if the Blue Dogs feel there is a legitimate shot that they&#8217;ll lose next year if they vote for this bill, they&#8217;ll vote against it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still of the opinion that this bill will never even get to the Senate, as it will either lose on the floor of the House, or will get pulled if the leadership realizes they&#8217;ll lose the vote. </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see what&#8217;s in it for a so-called &#8216;Blue Dog&#8217; to vote for this. Heck, it&#8217;s bad enough than some *non*-Blue Dogs may end up voting against it!</p>
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		<title>By: dsmurf</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsmurf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to be as hopefull  as you, but I&#039;m figuring that no amount of pork is too small to buy these Blue dogs up and make them fall in line, unless there is massive Dem Rep switch to the GOP-- its almost past my bedtime so the thoughts are heading to the punchy side after being cynical and hopeless.

I refuse to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to be as hopefull  as you, but I&#8217;m figuring that no amount of pork is too small to buy these Blue dogs up and make them fall in line, unless there is massive Dem Rep switch to the GOP&#8211; its almost past my bedtime so the thoughts are heading to the punchy side after being cynical and hopeless.</p>
<p>I refuse to change.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anything but stuck between a rock and a hard place.  Their voters are conservative, but their leadership is radically lib.  What will they do, what will they do......

Mostly I hope they lose lots of sleep, lots of hair and get ulcers.  If they presented themselves as conservatives, then they should act like it.  If they don&#039;t vote the way their constituents want them to, they get what they deserve.  On the other hand, if they don&#039;t vote as Nasty Nancy and Dingy Harry want them to, they risk the wrath of those gentle spirits at MoveOn.org and Company.  Gee, I&#039;m crying in my beer for the poor guys.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anything but stuck between a rock and a hard place.  Their voters are conservative, but their leadership is radically lib.  What will they do, what will they do&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Mostly I hope they lose lots of sleep, lots of hair and get ulcers.  If they presented themselves as conservatives, then they should act like it.  If they don&#8217;t vote the way their constituents want them to, they get what they deserve.  On the other hand, if they don&#8217;t vote as Nasty Nancy and Dingy Harry want them to, they risk the wrath of those gentle spirits at MoveOn.org and Company.  Gee, I&#8217;m crying in my beer for the poor guys&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This move along with Obama&#039;s statement Friday and upcoming news conference Wed give the dem push for health care &quot;reform&quot; the smell of desperation.The scare tactics that got the &quot;stimulus&quot; passed are unlikely to work this time since much of the public realizes the &quot;stimulus&quot; has failed. Thus the need to get some bill passed before the American people have a chance to say no.The problem for Obama is that time is no longer on his side. The more people learn about Obamacare the less people like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This move along with Obama&#8217;s statement Friday and upcoming news conference Wed give the dem push for health care &#8220;reform&#8221; the smell of desperation.The scare tactics that got the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; passed are unlikely to work this time since much of the public realizes the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; has failed. Thus the need to get some bill passed before the American people have a chance to say no.The problem for Obama is that time is no longer on his side. The more people learn about Obamacare the less people like it.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue Dogs; growl a bit, snap a bit at the Obamamaster, then vote like good little Donks if they know what&#039;s good for them according to the DNC.  Nasty Nancy will threaten to come campaign for them in their home districts like an uninvited house guest if they don&#039;t toe the line. 

In many districts the Blue Dogs won by pretending to be conservative on many issues that people cared about but still as real Democrats. Eroding support for the Obamamaster will not play in areas were the shine is wearing off of &quot;Hope and Change&quot;, but DNC dollars will keep them on the reservation in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Dogs; growl a bit, snap a bit at the Obamamaster, then vote like good little Donks if they know what&#8217;s good for them according to the DNC.  Nasty Nancy will threaten to come campaign for them in their home districts like an uninvited house guest if they don&#8217;t toe the line. </p>
<p>In many districts the Blue Dogs won by pretending to be conservative on many issues that people cared about but still as real Democrats. Eroding support for the Obamamaster will not play in areas were the shine is wearing off of &#8220;Hope and Change&#8221;, but DNC dollars will keep them on the reservation in my view.</p>
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